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Susan Holden Martin, Monday, 7-30-12 July 31, 2012

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Susan Holden Martin, Monday, 7-30-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1824-BWB-2012-07-30.mp3

Guest:  Susan Holden Martin.  Topics:  Mars Society 2012 Conference, MSL & Curiosity landing, JPL.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted
without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed Susan Holden Martin, the new Executive Director of The Mars Society, to the program to discuss this year’s conference, the MSL mission & landing, and more. You can follow along with us regarding the conference program at www.marssociety.org/convention2012. The conference is being held in Pasadena, CA from August 3-5 at the Pasadena Convention Center. As our program was an ongoing conference and JPL-Mars Science Lab discussion, I am summarizing our discussion without regard to segments.  Note the discussion on conference registration and hotels in the area given the conference begins in just a few days and online registration is now closed.  We summarized most of the agenda, highlighted the special programs, panels, and guests, and talked conference logistics.  Listeners asked about the Curiosity landing, putting heavy payloads on the surface of Mars, and the Sky Crane which will be used in the landing process.  Later in the program, Susan discussed the arrangements with The Planetary Society & their program at the Pasadena Convention Center, Planetfest 2012 which is going on at the same time.  We also talked about the Conference banquet, the award to Elon Musk, Falcon 9 models on Amazon (use the OGLF code if you buy one so that Amazon will donate to The Space Show, www.amazon.com/SpaceX-Falcon-Dragon-Flying-Rocket/dp/B006GX14R8/ref=onegiantlea20).  Another key part of the conference is direct feed from JPL to see the Curiosity landing Sunday evening, August 5, 10:30 PM PDT.  During the last few minutes of the
program, Susan updated us on other Mars Society programs including MDRS, the University Rover Competition, the Musk Observatory, the Mars Society in the UK, and more.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog. If you have conference questions or want to be in touch with Ms. Martin, you can email her at susanm@marssociety.org.

Open Lines, Sunday, 7-29-12 July 29, 2012

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Open Lines, Sunday, 7-29-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1823-BWB-2012-07-29.mp3

Guest:  Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  NewSpace 2012 & Business Plan Competition, Title 9 & STEM, & lots more.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  During our first 70 minute segment of this two hour discussion, we started out with a call to Paul Graham who is the Project Manager for OpenLuna.org ( www.openluna.org). Paul explained their program for putting a person on the Moon. If this interests you, Paul can be contacted through their website.  I then undertook a review of the recently concluded NewSpace 2012 Conference and Business Plan Competition.  It was an excellent conference and competition and I urge you to see the streaming video archives of the conference sessions & the business plan competition/presentations.  You can also find reviews of the sessions on most of the popular space blogs as many of the well known bloggers were at the conference.  Again, make sure you see the business plan presentations as I will be bringing several of these presenters on the show in the coming weeks. Also, see the early Saturday morning presentations with Rick Tumlinson and Bob Werb, along with many of the panels with superstars as panel members.  Visit  www.spacevidcast.com/category/video/conferences-video/newspace-conferences-video to see all of the conference sessions & programs.  Tim was next up with a call from Huntsville to talk about the government applying Title 9 to STEM education.  We talked about what gender quotas might mean for various STEM programs at schools and universities.  For more information, do a Google search for Title 9 & STEM education.  Our friend Charles Pooley called in regarding the NASA Nanosat Challenge program. He continued to wonder why there seemed to be so little activity and support for the program.

In our second segment, Jerry from Florida was our first caller. He did watch many of the live streaming sessions and thought this year’s NewSpace Conference 2012 turned a corner for quality.  Elliott in Michigan called in to talk about our Mars program, its future, and the ideas put forth by recent guest Brent Sherwood from last week who suggested that the Mars HSF program was a damaging distraction for our space program. If you have not yet listened to this discussion or read his paper which is on The Space Show blog, please do so.  As the program was ending, we talked about the upcoming MSL Curiosity landing for Sunday, August 5 at 10:30 PM PDT.  I noted our guest for my segment this coming Wednesday evening, August 1 on the John Batchelor Show as she is part of the JPL EDL team for MSL Curiosity.  Our discussion airs live at 6:30 PM PDT, 9:30 PM EDT. You can hear it streamed live at www.wabcradio.com/article.asp?id=531472.

If you have comments/questions, please post them on The Space Show blog.  If you want to send a note to any of the callers, do so through me and I will forward it on your behalf.

The John Batchelor Show “Hotel Mars,” Wednesda, 7-25-12 July 28, 2012

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The John Batchelor Show “Hotel Mars,” Wednesda, 7-25-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1822-BWB-2012-07-25.mp3

Guests:  John Batchelor, Amaresh Kollipara, Dr. David Livingston.  Topics: A report on the NewSpace 2012 Conference and Business Plan Competition.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. During our 11.5 minute discussion, John, Amaresh, and I  talked about the NewSpace 2012 Conference, the Business Plan Competition and the outstanding quality contestants this year, commercial space opportunities, the emergence of a viable commercial space private sector industry, the work Amaresh does with the Indian space program and more.  John asked Amaresh if we were nearing or at an inflection point in private space and Amaresh talked about a possible forthcoming “Netscape Moment” in the space arena.  Please post your comments/question on The Space Show blog.

If you have a question for either John Batchelor or Amaresh Kollipara, send it to me and I will forward it to the person of your choice.

Brent Sherwood, Tuesday, 7-24-12 July 25, 2012

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Brent Sherwood, Tuesday, 7-24-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1821-BWB-2012-07-24.mp3

Guest:  Brent Sherwood.  Topics: Human spaceflight to Mars: Is it on the path or a distraction?  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed Brent Sherwood back to the show to discuss his GLEX paper and ideas regarding human spaceflight (HSF), Mars, and alternative NASA goals/missions regarding HSF.  His GLEX paper, “Mars-On the Path or in the Way” is posted on The Space Show blog following this program summary.  Please read & review his paper as it contains far more detail regarding his proposal, analysis and his conclusion than what we were able to discuss during our program.  In our first segment, Mr. Sherwood provided us with the background and context for his having written this paper and for his conclusion that HSF to Mars is not the right path. He then outlined alternative paths for HSF missions that he believes can better “regain the cultural centrality of human space flight and grow by attracting private capital.” Our guest talked about the value proposition of a HSF mission to Mars, plus the value proposition of the alternatives he describes in his paper & on this program.  The value proposition is understood to refer to the value received by sending humans to Mars (or the alternative HSF missions) as compared to the value of the mission costs, the opportunity costs, risks, etc.  Mr. Sherwood assesses the value proposition for all of his alternative HSF proposals which include the Explore Mars mission, lunar settlement, space passenger travel, and SSP.  For most of this initial segment, Brent outlined his ideas and explained why he has concluded that HSF to Mars does not measure up as a value promise & why SSP is his first choice.  We began taking listener email questions and phone calls after he summarized his position  & as you can imagine, most all the listener questions/comments were of the challenging nature to his conclusion that HSF to Mars was not in the best interest of our space program.  I urge you read his paper and to pay attention to the technical, cost, time line, and historical information shared with us by our guest.

In the second segment of this nearly two hour program, Brent took questions and expanded more as to why he supports other options than HSF to Mars.  He also explained why he is calling for a debate on this issue within the space community.  At the start of this segment, I asked him if he thought discovering life on Mars would change his opinion and the value proposition.  He said no but did say it would expedite the Martian sample return mission, but would not alter the variables & unknowns involved in the magnitude of technology challenges needing resolution before sending humans safely to and from Mars.  Toward the end of our discussion, I asked how he might move forward to implement the industry debate he has called for on this show & in his paper.  Suggestions on how to do this are wanted so if you have any, post them on the blog.

Brent would like your feedback so after listening to this program and reading his paper, please post comments/questions on the blog.  You can email Brent Sherwood by sending your note to me & I will forward it to him.

Brent Sherwood’s GLEX Paper:

Mars-On the Path or In the Way?

 

Marsha Freeman, Monday, 7-23-12 July 24, 2012

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Marsha Freeman, Monday, 7-23-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1820-BWB-2012-07-23.mp3

Guest:  Marsha Freeman.  Topics:  GLEX 2012 Conference, Russian Federal Space Agency Interviews, China, space policy, Euro & U.S. economic issues.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed back Marsha Freeman to discuss the GLEX 2012 Conference, her interviews with the head of the Russian Federal Space Agency, Vladimir Popovkin, plus other space news, the Chinese program, or domestic & European economic crisis, and more.  We started our first segment with a discussion about the Russian space program, their lunar plans, their thoughts on our commercial space efforts, lunar probes, tourism, and more.  Marsha talked about budget priorities and how best to fit in or prioritize space programs & efforts.  She talked about the impact on Russia regarding the U.S. led European Ballistic Missile Defense System plus the Russian concept for their Strategic Defense of Earth proposal.  Marsha informed us about other talks at GLEX, Mike Griffin, AIAA, and leadership. She also commented on the fact that many at GLEX & in other venues, in talking about the commercial/private space efforts, while supporting these efforts make the distinction that great countries do great things, especially in space.  She stressed great things as being the responsibility of the nation.  Don’t miss her comments on this topic.

For our second segment, we certainly ventured into some controversial policy and opinion areas with our guest going all out & not holding anything back.  We started with questions about the Chinese space program. Here, Marsha had much to say that included comments on the U.S. policy toward China.  She was asked about the plans to use a Soyuz to do lunar tourism.  We talked some more about ISS and our guest was asked about the proposed NASA center closure plan being discussed.  Marsha expressed strong opinions on the base closure idea so don’t miss her comments.  We then started talking policy & asked for her thoughts on various NASA administrators that she had spoken with over the years.  She told us stories about Charlie Bolden, James Webb, Tom Paine and Mike Griffin.  Marsha next spoke about vision & shared her thoughts with us on several outspoken space visionary leaders. I asked her if she had ever met with the President Obama or his science advisor.  She said no and then had much to say about presidential science advisors in general & specifically she had much to say regarding the current science advisor.  She was also asked about the problem space enthusiasts seem to have in connecting with the general public to have better space policy & funding. Marsha disagreed with my question, pointing instead to economic issues that need resolution before space can resume its rightful place of leadership in our national policy.  Many of you may find her comments a bit controversial but remember, on The Space Show we air all sides of the issues.  Don’t hesitate to let us know your thoughts on the many issues Marsha talked about by posting them on the blog.  Marsha linked the Eurozone economic crisis to what happens in the U.S., our space program & more.  She repeatedly called for government restructuring, recommending a specific path that she believes will be most beneficial for the nation.  Do you agree?  In conclusion, she did say that out of crisis can come wide & beneficial changes.  She also said we needed to start our space program with an incremental & common sense approach to lunar development.

Please post your comments/questions on our blog. If you want to email our guest, send your note to me & I will forward it.

Declan O’Donnell, Sunday, 7-22-12 July 22, 2012

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Declan O’Donnell, Sunday, 7-22-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1819-BWB-2012-07-22.mp3

Guest:  Declan O’Donnell.  Topics:  USIS updates, Law of the Sea Treaty, space settlement, property rights & more.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. Declan O’Donnell returned for legal updates with United Societies In Space (USIS), the Intentional Space Development Authority (ISDAC), Law of the Sea Treaty, property rights and much more.  Declan suggested the best websites to visit for more information would be http://space-law.org/ISDAC/ISDAC.html and www.internationalspacedevelopment.com.  During this segment, Declan talked about the various UN space treaties, including the Liability Treaty and space debris issues.  Next, I asked Declan about the renewed interest show by the U.S. in the ratification of the Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST).  Like many others, Declan clearly spelled out the problems with this treaty and the problems with the common heritage of mankind ideology, especially for space settlement and commerce.  He said if LOST is ratified by the Senate, it would be a “dangerous precedent.”  Declan spent time going into the history of LOST and we talked about it being bottled up in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee (www.foreign.senate.gov).  Related issues discussed in this segment and throughout the program dealt with problems in enforcing treaties of all kinds.  Declan talked about the role of USIS and ISDAC regarding LOST and the ownership of space property issues.  He even talked about these organizations proposing a new treaty to support growth & the commercial development of space. Andrew called in to talk about the 1920 Svalbard Treaty as a possible model for space. You can read about this treaty at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard_Treaty.

Our second segment started with Tim calling to ask if there were other organizations promoting LOST and/or The Moon Treaty other than the U.N.  Later, Declan was asked about the Chinese space program and we again referenced issues with the Liability Treaty and Chinese caused space debris issues.  Also in this segment, Declan was asked about the EU Code of Conduct for Outer Space Activities.  Note that he confirmed it was risky to dismiss such things because of the voluntary aspect & he cited several examples to illustrate his point.  He even talked about a specific Italian jurisdictional clause for a local region often inserted in contracts and used as a set of rules for litigation.  Harry emailed out guest about the spaceport no liability laws that have been adopted by several states.  Declan had much to say about this and the issue of liability. Interestingly, he said the waiver that we hear so much about and that is required in the federal law is more about protecting the U.S. Government given it has the ultimate liability for everything launched into space in the U.S. & possibly with U.S. hardware elsewhere in the world as the U.S. would be considered by treaty the launching state. Near the end of our program, I mentioned a SF Business Times article on space investment in Silicon Valley. I will upload the .pdf to the blog for those interested in reading it. Marshall also emailed in a question on the liability issue regarding a spacecraft landing in a different country from its launching country.  As the program was ending, Declan talked about USIS and ISDAC membership & given his being a trial lawyer, I asked him about the controversial issue in healthcare of tort reform.  You might be surprised by his answer.

Post your questions/comments on The Space Show blog.  You can email Declan through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com

 

You can read the SF Business Times article mentioned on the show here:

SF Biz Journal Space Ventures

Rand Simberg, Dr. Margaret Jordan, Bill Simon, “Evoloterra,” Friday, 7-20-12 July 20, 2012

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Rand Simberg, Dr. Margaret Jordan, Bill Simon, “Evoloterra,” Friday, 7-20-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1818-BWB-2012-07-20.mp3

Guests:  Rand Simberg, Dr. Margaret Jordan, Bill Simon.  Topics:  Celebration of the 43rd Anniversary of our moon landing per Evoloterra.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed back Rand Simberg & Bill Simon and for the first time, Dr. Margaret Jordan, to present Evoloterra to The Space Show audience to commemorate and honor the 43rd anniversary our Apollo 11 landing on the Moon.  You can download or print the Evoloterra Ceremony at www.evoloterra.com.  During our first segment, the three authors of Evoloterra provided us with an overview and history of how Evoloterra came to be written, then the four of us read the ceremony on air.  Rand took the part of the ceremony leader, then Bill, Margaret & I alternated with one another reading the paragraphs following the leader questions.  This segment, our reading of Evoloterra, told the story of how humans evolved and were able to develop the knowledge, skills, and technology to go to the Moon in 1969.  On the completion of the ceremony we then went to our break.

In our second segment, we started off with “dinner conversation” about Evoloterra, our Moon landing, what it meant then, and what it means for today.  We fielded listener calls & emails about the ceremony.  We talked about educational outreach, our public schools, and doing the ceremony tonight (July 20), this weekend, or in the near future to remember and understand this important accomplishment with family and friends.  Another of our topics was focused on making sure that those 500 years in the future will know what we did 43 years ago today and just how we did it.  This remembrance gets more & more complicated as our Moon landing fades into our past history.  One listener asked if Evoloterra had impact on policy makers. Rand said he did not think so.  Rand told us about a website, www.wherewereyou.com.  Here, you can upload your story as to where you were when we landed on the Moon, what you were doing, & what it meant to you.  As our program was ending, we finished the ceremony by reading the Evoloterra Epilogue. Our guests then closed out the program with their concluding thoughts and comments.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can email the three co-authors through me at DrSpace@thespaceshow.com.

The John Batchelor Show “Hotel Mars”, Wednesday, 7-18-12 July 19, 2012

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The John Batchelor Show “Hotel Mars”, Wednesday, 7-18-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1817-BWB-2012-07-18.mp3

Guests:  John Batchelor, Irene Klotz, Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  The upcoming landing for Mars Science Lab’s Curiosity Rover.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. Note that do to a phone line glitch, I was unable to participate in most of this program.  During our 11.5 minute discussion, John and Irene talked about the upcoming landing set for 10:30 PM PDT on August 5th of the Mars Science Lab Curiosity Rover.  We talked about the problems with Mars Odyssey which if it can be repositioned with all systems working will provide real time information on the Curiosity landing.  If Odyssey cannot be repositioned for the landing, our information about the landing will be delayed.  Other resources will be able to provide information including the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter and ESA’s Mars Express but not on a real time basis.  We also talked about the landing process and I urge all of you to see the excellent JPL animation of the complete landing known as “Seven Minutes Of Terror” at www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2I8AoB1xgU.  Also discussed in detail was the Curiosity Sky Crane and the communication time back to Earth which is 14 minutes given the current distance between Earth and Mars.  Please post your comments/question on The Space Show blog.

If you have a question for either John Batchelor or Irene Klotz, send it to me and I will forward it to the person of your choice.

Michael Ciannilli, Leonard David, Tuesday, 7-17-12 July 17, 2012

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Michael Ciannilli, Leonard David, Tuesday, 7-17-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1816-BWB-2012-07-17.mp3

Lessons Learned from the Columbia accident & NASA’s human spaceflight experience

Guests:  Michael Ciannilli, Leonard David.  Topics:  Columbia lessons learned & human spaceflight safety issues.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed Michael Ciannilli of NASA to the program to discuss lessons learned from the Columbia accident & NASA’s history of human spaceflight. Leonard David of Space.com returned as a co-host for this program.  Our nearly two hour no break discussion started with Michael providing us with an historical overview of the Columbia accident.  We talked about the debris retrieval process & the fact that about 38% of Columbia was retrieved.  Michael was asked about surprises & among the many he mentioned, one in particular dealt with the tile & thermal impact showing burning on the inside & how that was a clue to what happened to Columbia.  Michael then listed several lessons learned.  When I asked if he could prioritize the items he mentioned, he said they were all important.  We talked about the Columbia Accident Investigation Board (CAIB), return to flight, incorporating lessons learned, & more.  Leonard asked about the idea of NASA HSF safety excesses & we asked Michael if lessons learned & HSF safety issues were shared with both the private sector companies & the Russians.  I asked Michael about educational outreach & he had some interesting things to say about the international internet audience as well as the local audience.  The subject of urban legends came up in the outreach discussion & we honed in on the idea of the possibility of a rescue mission.  You do not want to miss this important discussion.  Other issues discussed included the foam problem, Leonard asked about the “bone matrix” he saw in use at the CAIB hearings, & I mentioned the need to really know & understand the hardware given our recent intimate visit with Endeavour.  Cultural issues were a part of this discussion, including the risk of workforce lulls & the need to avoid complacency.  Michael cited tile issues as an example going back to STS 1 and studying all missions to really understand tile concerns.  One email dealt with NASA risk aversion & some space enthusiasts saying that to open the space frontier we need to “kill more people.”  Michael addressed these issues, going over the NASA mission & imperatives, their responsibilities, and the risks of all sorts of consequences coming to life.  We talked about individual worker responsibility and accountability with Michael giving us both NASA and personal insights into this subject.  We then talked about the balancing act required in weighing the risk trades of cutting costs, cutting corners, taking more risks, taking less risks, etc.  He suggested private companies will go through a similar process and talked about the consequences of decisions which can be devastating with the loss of a crew to the termination of a program or the loss of the company.  Michael explained the Criticality One status and what it means in the risk analysis process.  Another listener asked if shuttles still had life left in them at the time of retirement. The short answer was yes but don’t miss what Michael has to say about the condition of space shuttle fleet at the time of retirement.  Another issue discussed dealt with trying to find a lower cost way of operating shuttle and dealing with all their infrastructure without compromising safety.  Near the end of the program, we took a Southern California call asking about potentially different standards for government astronauts and private-sector astronauts.  I was asked to lead off with my opinion which I did from a business liability perspective, then Michael and Leonard discussed the subject. We had lots to say about informed consent, litigation, & the uncertainties inherent when involved in a jury trial.  As we were winding down the program, Michael provided us with his closing comments, then I added in my own comments that focused on the sports inspirational speaker, Ray Lewis, linebacker with the Baltimore Ravens, who gives a terrific inspirational speech to teams around the country, “Pissed Off For Greatness.”  You can find lots of information about this by using Google for his name or the speech title.  Essentially, this is about not accepting mediocrity in what you do & I extrapolated it to space.  HSF workers, regardless of being with NASA or any company as well as others involved in the space field cannot accept mediocrity.  Being pissed off for greatness implies that if you are not pissed off for greatness, then you willing to settle for being mediocre in what you do.  Michael, Leonard and I talked about this at the end of the program.  I hope you will concur with me that extrapolating this inspirational sports talk to space fits.  Michael closed us out by saying it takes courage to stand up and say something if you believe something is off or not right in the program.  He further said it takes a lot to challenge the bureaucracy and stand up but that we all have to do it when the situation arises.

Please post your comments and questions on The Space Show blog URL above.  If you want to email Michael or Leonard, do so through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward it to the person of your choice.

Dr. Bryan Laubscher, Monday, 7-16-12 July 17, 2012

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Dr. Bryan Laubscher, Monday, 7-16-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1815-BWB-2012-07-16.mp3

Guest:  Dr. Bryan Laubscher.  Topics:  The Space Elevator and the upcoming annual elevator conference.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed back Dr. Bryan Laubscher for our annual space elevator update program.  Our first order of business was to discuss the upcoming Space Elevator 2012 conference.  Check it out at www.isec.org/sec.  Registration, hotel, programming, speaker, and session information is provided on the website.  Dr. Laubscher noted some differences this year including its location, the Seattle Museum of Flight.  Also, the Family Science Fest on the conference first day.  Bryan highlighted some of the sessions including those dealing with elevator operations and alternative launch options including Stratolauncher.  We fielded several email questions from listeners and then Michael called in to ask about security requirements for the elevator.  This turned out to be a most interesting discussion but one leaving us with lots of unanswered questions. In discussing elevator security, we talked about international law, the proposed Law of the Sea Treaty, offshore oil platforms, territorial water issues, DOD and department of Navy defense actions, and more.  Tony emailed in a series of questions including one that asked about the rotovavtor.  Later, I asked Bryan if elevator security should be a taxpayer responsibility and he said yes, noting that revenues from the elevator along with taxes paid would be in excess of security costs.  We then talked about the elevator being an international project or an American project.  Bryan preferred American but we talked about both sides of this issue.  Bryan also had lots to say about materials and the CNT ribbon.  He told us about the detangler and the size of the ribbon, plus the incremental plan in ribbon development.  We asked Bryan timeline questions and it was also said that the biggest problem other than materials waiting to be solved was the surface to LEO transportation.

In our second shorter segment, we talked about inspiration, the need to learn systems engineering, and the absence of congressional political support for the elevator.  A listener asked about the payload capacity which Bryan said was 20 tons.  He mentioned spinoff technology including energy storage.  Terry wanted to know how scalable the elevator concept was and Bryan mentioned progress with climber reusability issues. In our summary, he said the overall biggest challenge still remained the materials.

Post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog. If you want to contact Dr. Laubscher, send your email to me for forwarding.  For more info on the conference, use www.isec.org/sec/index.php/contact-us.

 

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