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The John Batchelor Show “Hotel Mars,” Wednesday, 11-28-12 November 29, 2012

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The John Batchelor Show “Hotel Mars,” Wednesday, 11-28-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1903-BWB-2012-11-28.mp3

Guests: John Batchelor, Clara Moskowitz, Dr. David Livingston:  Topics:  James Bond movies and NASA history.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce.  This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. During our 11 minute discussion, Clara Moskowitz, science writer and editor at Live Science and Space.com, wrote an excellent article on the relationship of James Bond movies relative to the history of NASA with both human spaceflight as well as science missions.  You can read her excellent article at www.space.com/18394-james-bond-space-movies-50-years.html. During our Hotel Mars segment, John wanted to know if government agents were pork and old fashioned in a way similar to NASA/civil space programs.  Moonraker was discussed (for obvious reasons) plus we took a look at how Bond films evolved from the early days of Mercury with Dr. No to the latest movie, Skyfall, which uses advanced satellite and GPS technology as a natural part of our society and culture.  We noted how the Bond space component evolution in many ways mirrors the reality with our space program. We also speculated that there might be a future James Bond on a Virgin Galactic SS2 space vehicle or a Dragon and become part of the commercial space movement.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can contact Mr. Batchelor or Clara Moskowitz through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Michael Listner, Tuesday, 11-27-12 November 28, 2012

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Michael Listner, Tuesday, 11-27-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1902-BWB-2012-11-27.mp3

Guest:  Michael Listner.  Topics:  Space law & policy review for 2012.  Please direct all comments & questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments & questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright & are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. We welcomed Michael Listner back to the show to do our first ever annual review of space law issues. Michael had several topics to discuss including the Code of  Contact, Transparency & Confidence-Building Measures (TCBMs), Cube sat regulation, ITAR, Planetary resources & space property rights, Space debris with an emphasis on EnviSat, Austria’s space law in particular the launch of Austria’s first satellite in December, Commercial space in particular limited liability laws, Delineation of air space & outer space, the Moon Treaty & the ascension of Turkey & Saudi Arabia, Rules of Arbitration, & the preservation of Apollo landing sites.  We started with two main space law issues of 2012, the European Code of Conduct & TCBMs.  Michael did a good job explaining the history of these items, where are today with them & what is likely to happen with them in 2013.  We also talked about space taking on the role of being normal & we both pointed out ways in which it interacts with regular law even if consumers are behind a firewall & have no awareness of space law issues.  Our discussion turned toward benefit sharing & this took us into an extensive Moon Treaty discussion. I urge people not blow off what to many of us are radical departures from how we have been conducting space affairs & how we want to see commercial space evolve.  There are longer term potential risks given trends in benefit sharing, more countries signing on to the Moon Treaty, & even listener feedback I get right here on The Space Show.  Michael urged us to pay attention if other nations sign the Moon Treaty, particularly if Russia or China agree to it.  Michael talked about legal theories that can make the Moon Treaty enforceable given it is a legal treaty, even if the U.S. & others do not sign it.  Again, I urge our audience to not discount this potential longer term risk.
     In the second segment, Michael talked about the issue of just where space starts.  He mentioned two theories on this & why it is an important issue. The U.S. position tends to discount the debate & operates as if the 100km point is the edge of space.  It appears we abstain from the debate with the opinion it is a settled issue but evidently not in some circles as it is a hot button issue.  We also talked about the limited liability laws for suborbital space, especially in New Mexico which is having a problem accepting it in its legislature.  We mentioned the potential impact limited liability might have on Spaceport America so it deserves watching.  Michael talked about cubesat regulation & an upcoming European conference on that subject.  He said it is something we need to be carefully watching.  ITAR reform, especially in terms of getting satellites off the munitions list to the dual technology list was also a key issue for the year & will be next year.  We also talked about space debris issues & the impact of ESA’s EnviSat.  As our program was ending, I asked Michael for some future 2013 assessments of hot button issues.  Among those he mentioned included the Code, TCBMs, ITAR, possibly the Moon Treaty & Planetary Resources types of issues.  A listener asked about our withdrawal from the OST but Michael did not think that would mean much. Our last topic dealt with the historical preservation of the Apollo 11 & 17 landing sites.
    Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can email Michael at michael@spacelawsolutions.com.

Dr. Madhu Thangavelu, Jake Dodd, Monday, 11-26-12 November 27, 2012

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Dr. Madhu Thangavelu, Jake Dodd, Monday, 11-26-12

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Guests:  Dr. Madhu Thangavelu, Jake Dodd.  Topics: This program discusses Jake’s concept of placing a nuclear fuel plant in space in support of nuclear propulsion/space needs.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. We welcomed back Dr. Madhu Thangalevu and his student Jake Dodd to discuss the concept of SNAP-X: The Space Nuclear Activation Plant.  I have uploaded his AIAA paper by the same title and his Power Point slide presentation to The Space Show blog which should provide you with more specific information about Jake’s concept.  Essentially, the plan calls for putting a breeder reactor in space to supply nuclear fuel for space needs safely rather than launching from Earth all the time.  During our first segment, both Professor Thangavelu and Mr. Dodd explained the concept in detail.  We talked about weapons proliferation in the process, the breeder reactor and why that was the chosen technology, the safety in place for this technology, and the use of it in the EML1 location and why.  Part of our conversation focused in on projected time lines and development costs as I tried to get an idea of what would be involved in bringing this project to at least an Earth-based demo status.  Listeners emailed and called in about the problems given the amount of fear within the public and parts of the government every time the word nuclear is mentioned, then saying that the use of a breeder reactor heightens that societal fear level.  We discussed ways of dealing with this during our discussion.  In addition, listeners questioned the safety of a breeder reactor and the use of Thorium as a non-weapon nuclear fuel.

In our second segment, we talked more about tight budgets, private and public partnerships, and international cooperation to bring this project to at least demo status.  Charles called in to challenge our guests on their Thorium comments regarding conversion to U-233 which he said was an effective fuel for weapons as was U-235.  I believe you will find this exchange most useful in understanding many of the issues regarding this project.  Our guests brought up the nuclear rocket history and the NERVA project, plus we asked Jake for his plan of attack in getting his project going.  As our program was ending, Madhu talked about his next Design Studio Class which culminates with new student projects on Dec. 18th.

I look forward to talking about many of these projects on The Space Show in 2013.  Post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  If you want to email either of our guests, please do so through me.

Here are the two documents we talked about during the show regarding Jake’s concept.

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Space Show Webinar with Dan Adamo, Dr. John Jurist, Sunday, 11-25-12 November 24, 2012

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Space Show Webinar with Dan Adamo, Dr. John Jurist, Sunday, 11-25-12

Audio only:  http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1900-BWB-2012-11-25.mp3

Video Stream:  http://vimeo.com/channels/thespaceshow

Guests:  Dan Adamo, Dr. John Jurist.  Topics:  Trajectory analysis to EML2, Mars, and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.  You can view our webinar on our Vimeo Space Show channel, http://vimeo.com/channels/thespaceshow.  To follow along with Dan’s pdf, use

http://thespaceshow.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/adamo-eml2roundtripr2.pdf.  We welcomed Dan Adamo back to the program and Dr. John Jurist as co-host for this special webinar addressing trajectory analysis for an EML2 mission and more.  On The Space Show blog, you will find Dan’s PDF document used during the webinar, a link to the movie he played in the second half of the webinar, and his Phobos-Grunt analysis paper we discussed near the end of the webinar. During the first hour of the webinar, Dan took us through the trajectory analysis to Earth-Moon L2 per his PDF document.  We talked about why EML2, libration points in general, and how such missions are planned.  If the resolution on the webinar video for the charts and tables used during this segment are difficult to read on your computer, please bring the document up on the PDF on The Space Show blog and follow along that way.  Dan took us through Table 1, HALO orbits, and the HOI as well as the Trans-Lunar Insertion points.  We talked about orbital characteristics, delta V, rocket size, and more  We also talked about the position of the Earth, launch windows, the Moon, & other factors influencing the planning of the mission.  While at times the discussion may seem a bit technical or overwhelming for those of us having never done mission planning at this level before, all of us will certainly have a better understanding of the factors considered and influencing both robotic as well as human spaceflight missions.  Near the end of the segment, we talked about the SLS and heavy lift & how payload capacity interacts with mission & trajectory analysis. 
 
     In the second hour of our webinar, Dan took us through his HD movie of the orbital trajectory talked about during the first segment, stopping it at intervals for specific explanations and questions.  The movie is in the QuickTime format but you can see it both on the webinar or by using the URL provided on the blog.  We took several listener calls & questions.  One asked Dan about the differences in planning for the robotic vs. the HSF mission using MSL & Curiosity as an example.  Dan pointed us to a YouTube video he made a few years ago with Dr. Logan using these tools for a Deimos mission (www.youtube.com/watch?v=X10GAqA4Ky4). Another listener called wanting to know the likelihood of an EML2 mission actually happening.  Dan explained why he believed this mission to be the next stepping stone in HSF.  More was discussed about SLS with Dan raising some concerns about its real capabilities & wondering if Congress is being sold unrealistic expectations. We talked about heavy lift in general & with the support of properly placed depots.  SLS and the difference with a Falcon Heavy were also discussed in terms of what the differences would mean in payload, number of launches, costs, risks, etc. 
 
     Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can contact either guest through me.
 
Dan’s PDF document is here:  Adamo EML2roundTripR2
 
 
In addition, to watch Dan’s QuickTime movie which he will be using during the webinar, please click on this URL and then select the file format .mov:

 https://spideroak.com/browse/share/DanAdamo/EML2roundTrip

Note that you must have the QuickTime player to play this movie if you intend to download it. You can watch it from the above URL without the QT player.

 

Dr. Marcelo Vazquez, Friday, 11-23-12 November 23, 2012

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Dr. Marcelo Vazquez, Friday, 11-23-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1899-BWB-2012-11-23.mp3

Guest:  Dr. Marcelo Vazquez.  Topic: Galactic cosmic radiation & human spaceflight in deep space.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. We welcomed back Dr. Marcelo Vazquez for deep space radiation updates since his last visit to the show on August 22, 2006.  In our first segment, Dr. Vazquez updated us with new information about Martian surface radiation due to the instruments on board Curiosity now roving on Mars. We talked about the meanings of the findings so far and the good news for astronauts visiting Mars as we are learning that being on the surface will likely be doable.  We then talked about transit times to and from Mars and why that presents a different set of radiation challenges.  For our discussion, we only referenced existing, operational propulsion – chemical propulsion.  We did not talk about advanced propulsion travel times or nuclear propulsion travel times as our focus was on what was available today, not what may be available in the near or intermediate term.  The Galactic Cosmic Radiation (GCR) is a problem with lots of unknowns.  A further complication is a solar event but that could probably be shielded for with an onboard shelter. Not so with the GCR.  Dr. Vazquez even pointed out that GCR may cause an incomplete mission as it impacts the central nervous system & that might be a bigger risk than cancer at the end of the mission.  Listeners emailed & called with radiation questions, even asking about the difference in GCR and radiation here on Earth.  Other topics addressed in this segment included the use of older astronauts given they might suffer less radiation damage than a younger person, cell damage and division, timelines for potential solutions, & space settlement/family issues in light of what we know about space radiation today.
       In our second segment, we talked about Cislunar space, EML1, EML2, the lunar surface and NEOs in light of radiation dangers for astronauts.  The ISS was discussed within the context of Martian surface radiation, along with the South Atlantic Anomaly and polar/equatorial radiation on Earth. Listener Bruce emailed about Marcelo “slightly over stating space radiation.”  I read the email on air so do listen to the response given to Bruce.  Dr. Vazquez then talked about the NASA guidelines & the number of safe deep space radiation days for an adult male and an adult female (they differ).  Near the end, a NYC first responder called in about possible radiation incidents in NYC & treatments available, including new medicines.  At the end, I asked out guest for success indicators. We were directed to note the biologic focus given GCR can directly impact a molecule.  We concluded with a short update on radiation used in cancer treatment including proton and carbon ion therapy.  In summary, no show stoppers but lots of challenges that Dr. Vazquez believes will be resolved through future research.
     Please post our comments/questions on The Space Show blog URL.  If you want to reach our guest, you can do so through me.

The John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 11-21-12 November 22, 2012

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The John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 11-21-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1898-BWB-2012-11-21.mp3

Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. Alan Stern, Dr. David Livingston:  Topics:  Uwingu and naming planets.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce.  This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. During our 11 minute discussion, Dr. Alan Stern talked about the process of naming planets and the first “product” offered by Uwingu (www.uwingu.com).  Dr. Stern said there were over 160 billion planets in the universe so his naming opportunities to involve as many people as possible seems like a winner.

If you have questions or comments about this segment, please post them on The Space Show blog above.  You can contact Mr. Batchelor or Dr. Stern through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Dr. Edythe Weeks, Tuesday, 11-20-12 November 21, 2012

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Dr. Edythe Weeks, Tuesday, 11-20-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1897-BWB-2012-11-20.mp3

Guest:  Dr Edythe (Edy) Weeks.  Topics: We discussed her book, various commercial space development models, benefit sharing & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. We welcomed Dr. Edythe (Edy) Weeks to the program to discuss her book, “Outer Space Development, International Relations and Space Law: A Method for Elucidating Seeds.” You can buy her book on Amazon & if you use the following URL, Amazon will contribute to The Space Show/OGLF: www.amazon.com/Outer-Space-Development-International-Relations/dp/1443839655/ref=onegiantlea20.  During our first segment of this 2.5 hour discussion, Dr. Weeks introduced us to her book and the need to understand space development from an international relations perspective.  We talked about how the industry has evolved over the last 20+ years, innovations such as citizen science suborbital missions, new commercial players, & innovative business ideas such as asteroid mining.  Dr. Weeks talked extensively about the need for an ideological shift toward space throughout the non-space population & within our global educational systems.  When Todd from San Diego emailed Edy as to how to create the ideological shift, that opened a discussion on how such shifts are created.  It was very interesting that one of the major examples cited by our guest included the growth & popularity of tattoos.  This sparked quite a conversation, some of it laced with humor, lots of fun, but also relevant points to our discussion.  As our segment was ending, our guest talked about the need to include other perspectives in the space benefits, those coming from outside the STEM fields.
     In our second & very long segment, I opened up asking Edy about the ideas in her book in support of benefit sharing & the Common Heritage of Mankind concepts found in some of the U.N. space treaties.  This discussion prevailed for the balance of our program as our guest is looking for new and different business & social models for space to be more inclusive which she believes will lead to more space commerce.  I took a challenging & argumentative position throughout most of the discussion in explaining why most in the NewSpace and commercial space industries do not support benefit sharing and why. We talked about the need for property rights & why such rights would facilitate commercial development.  Dr. Weeks was not supportive of the property rights positions, looking more for space development to accomplish much needed social change and reform around the world. Also, she made the case that property rights were not needed nor supported by the treaties & their working papers. Dr. Weeks did clarify her position regarding capitalism, the U.S., commercial space companies & benefit sharing ideas so don’t miss her clarification. Let us know your thoughts on our blog. Tax revenues were discussed but as you will hear, our guest focuses on actual benefit sharing beyond tax payments to help create wealth for everyone, including those that would be the recipient of the benefit sharing programs & the commercial space business.  We talked about voluntary charitable giving as compared to mandatory or government required giving through benefit sharing.  I cited Microsoft & Google models for why private sector giving with the pursuit of business unfettered by government induced benefit sharing is better.  Tim called in to express his very strong views in support of the private sector & his opposition to reallocation of resources regardless of how it is termed by either government or the UN.  Edy referenced the OST & the Moon Treaty in making her points, making the case that outer space resources belong to everyone, not just the developer.  While we did use an outrageously successful multi-trillion dollar model for our discussion of the space mining example, the idea was made that the company could easily afford to “give” a percentage to the benefit sharing process, over & above taxes, assuming the company was profitable, even at more realistic levels.  Our guest was very articulate in presenting her views & ideas, plus her book does a very good job of comprehensively dealing with what we just barely had time to scratch during our program.  For more information, check out Edy’s blog and YouTube video:  www.youtube.com/watch?v=okyVWJglxow & http://blogs.webster.edu/globalthinking/blog/2012/07/16/outer-space-development-is-subject-of-new-book-by-hpirs-edythe-weeks/#more-2802.
     Please post all comments/questions about this discussion on The Space Show blog.  I will bring all comments to the attention of Dr. Weeks on a regular basis.

Howard Bloom, Monday, 11-19-12 November 20, 2012

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Howard Bloom, Monday, 11-19-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1896-BWB-2012-11-19.mp3

Guest:  Howard Bloom.  Topics:  We discuss Howard’s new book, “The God Problem: How a Godless Cosmos Creates.”  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. We welcomed Howard Bloom back to the program to discuss his new book, “The God Problem: How a Godless Cosmos Creates.”  Remember, if you buy the book using this Amazon URL, Amazon will make a contribution to The Space Show/OGLF:  www.amazon.com/The-God-Problem-Godless-Creates/dp/161614551X/ref=onegiantlea20. Howard started the discussion by telling us about the five heresies he points out in his book.  That is what we see is not actually correct.  A large part of the first segment takes us through the five heresies in detail in the very interesting, informative, & captive way only Howard Bloom can master.  Later in the first segment, we talked about the need for O’Neill Colonies, space art, and the caption factor.
     In the second segment, Howard discussed his Big Bagel Theory of the Universe.  (www.howardbloom.net/big%20bagel.htm and also www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdJyafSBCb0). Note that the YouTube video addresses the five heresies talked about in the first segment.  Later in this segment, Howard talked about visionary space leadership, SpaceX, Elon Musk, SLS, commercial space, and the initial Obama Space Program.  He also mentioned space solar power as a viable option and how to make space happen sooner, not later. He also talked about how important space development was and is to the United States, but that we are not following through on making space a priority.  He said that Asia seems to understand this more than we do in the States and is acting on this truism.  His new book ties in very nicely to space development, exploration, and expansion here and on a global basis.
     Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog. Howard can be reached by email at HowlBloom@aol.com.

Open Lines, Sunday, 11-19-12 November 19, 2012

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Open Lines, Sunday, 11-19-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1895-BWB-2012-11-18.mp3

Guest:  Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  Space Show surveys & feedback, SatCon 2012, post election space policy & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. Welcome to our nearly 2.5 hour Open Lines discussion on a wide range of topics. Most of our topics covered the entire show so this summary is in just one segment. In addition to a few talking points at the beginning of the show, I stressed the need for more Space Show listener feedback and the use of possible surveys.  The survey issue came up with several callers and many ideas for surveys were put forth.  If you have ideas or suggestions for better Space Show feedback including the use of surveys, please post your ideas on The Space Show blog. In addition, we had some strange phone line issues throughout this program.  We are working to track down what happened but since there is no call waiting at our end, I’m not sure the problems were with our equipment.  Regardless, The Space Show apologizes for the phone line distractions. Daniel, a first responder, called in with a brief summary of the recently completed SatCon 2012 Conference in NYC.  He had some very interesting things to share with us, especially about national security satellite issues.  Check out this conference at www.satconexpo.com. Tim called to talk about our recent program regarding JP Aerospace.  Tim said he was working the numbers and does not feel that an airship can make it to orbit.  Let us know if you agree with Tim.  By the way, others on earlier programs have made it clear that they do not believe JP can get an airship to orbit.  In the meantime, John continues to work the problem and best of luck to him and his crew in figuring out how to reach his goal.  Doug called in and we talked post election space policy. A few other callers did the same thing including John from Atlanta.  I really had no great insights to bring to the table but I suspect that more likely based on how things go with the economy and sequestration, the status quo will prevail on space policy.  That said, the SLS program might actually be a target of NASA budget cuts over the next few years but it is way too early to tell.  Some listeners seemed to want a partisan discussion on policy and I did my best to avoid it though I did disclose my dislike for our two main political parties.  I was also clear that the private sector engaged in capital acquisition was at risk through increased regulation, taxes, inflation, etc.  Like everyone, I am hopeful that risk capital will remain strong and space ventures will be able to grow in their share of this unique investor market, but it is a fragile market given our economic situation and the uncertainties ahead of us at this time.  John from Winterhaven called about my comments regarding doing something with one’s ideas and concepts over and above just speaking the words or writing a paper. I referred to this throughout our discussion as “breathing life” into one’s concepts/ideas.  I am also planning a full Space Show on this subject.  Other topics included news stories on the Falcon engine problems and EML2 NASA missions.
     Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog above.

Frank Stratford, Friday, 11-16-12 November 17, 2012

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Frank Stratford, Friday, 11-16-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1894-BWB-2012-11-16.mp3

Guest: Frank Stratford.   Topics:  Human spaceflight to Mars.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. We welcomed back Frank Stratford of Mars Drive (www.marsdrive.com) to update us on his latest thoughts regarding human Mars missions.  You can read his latest Space Review article, “Which Way To Mars” from Oct. 22, 2012 at www.thespacereview.com/article/2174/1.  In this article and during our first segment, Frank put forth two options for HSF to Mars.  The first option he called the “miracle gift.”  The second option he refers to as “step by step.”  During this segment, Frank discussed both options in detail.  He talked at length about what is realistic and plausible compared to being in the realm of fantasy regarding humans to Mars. A listener asked him if the less than plausible ventures were a distraction or even if they were destructive to the effort to put humans on Mars.  Frank did not think so and citied YouTube hits for Mars advocacy & other groups as compared to a YouTube viral Korean song that is approaching 750 million hits (www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0). This made the point very clearly that space and even humans to Mars does not command the interest or attention of the public in any way like our pop culture.  Frank also stressed the need for collaboration with the Mars advocacy groups rather then each one going its own way.  He mentioned several different organizations and one that he is supportive of, The Mars Initiative (http://marsinitiative.org). Callers asked Frank about the Mars Direct plan as the segment was ending.
     In our second segment, we talked about how to finance a humans to Mars mission.  Frank used a $10 billion price tag saying there were only a few ideas that would come in less than that but given so many unknowns about a humans to Mars mission, it was almost impossible to budget such a mission.  He talked about using a Falcon Heavy, fewer flights using the SLS, a flexible financing path, and more.  He also mentioned the upcoming Mars Expo 2013 in the UK which you can read about on the Mars Drive website. As the program was ending, we talked about Mars Drive and the spin-off by one of the Mars Drive supporters, Mars Drive Lab.  At the end, I challenged Frank for his action plan, that is how to bring to life what we had been talking about.  You will find this a most interesting discussion.  Frank left us with a final selling point: “A humans to Mars mission brings us the technology and jobs of tomorrow today.”
     If you have comments/questions for Frank Stratford, please post them on The Space Show blog.

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