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Open Lines, Sunday, 4-13-14 April 14, 2014

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Open Lines, Sunday, 4-13-14

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Guest:  Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston. Topics: Russian lunar program, UFOs, SpaceX & reusability, NASA.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

Today’s Open Lines discussion took place over a few segments and for about 1 hour 45 minutes.  Our Open Lines discussion started with my providing scheduling announcements as there will be no live shows the week of April 21 due to  medical issues I need to address.  Rather than play specific OLDIE programs which I usually do in the absence of a live show, I suggested that listeners go through the archives and listen to an archived show or two of their choice, compare what you heard on the archived show to similar issues in space today, then call our next special Open Lines show which will probably be Sunday, April 27 and share your thoughts and perspectives with us.  For this Open Lines program,  I also suggested a few discussion topics including Russia’s Putin saying “We are coming to the Moon FOREVER” as reported in the MailOnline on April 11, 2014.  You can read the article I discussed on the show at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2602291/We-coming-Moon-FOREVER-Russia-sets-plans-conquer-colonise-space-including-permanent-manned-moon-base.html.  It reported Russia wanted to go to the Moon, colonize it and stay there as Russia was viewing the Moon as its own permanent colony along with similar colonies it wants to establish on Mars and asteroids.  Putin also mentioned Russia was in a race to the Moon.  Next, we fielded a few email listener questions, then John from Ft. Worth called the program to discuss an H2 documentary he saw on UFOs, “I know What I Saw.”  John talked about the documentary and other items for most of the balance of our first segment. His discussion topics included various presidential statements to Air Force and other official statements to noted UFO/ET incidents that have been reported around the world. While this is not a usual Space Show topic, it does come up from time to time.  I’ve not seen the documentary John referenced but if you want to see it, do a Google search for “I Know What I Saw” and you will find it on YouTube.  I’ll probably watch it at some point but in reading the comments about it, the reviews are definitely mixed. John also talked about the upcoming SpaceX Falcon 9 launch and its reusability plans. He asked some thoughtful technical questions about reusability but I was unable to answer them. I was hoping a listener would call in with answers as I know many who listen to The Space Show follow the Falcon 9 and reusability in great detail but they did not call in today. For those of you listening on archives, if you would like to respond to John’s comments and questions, please do so on The Space Show blog.

In our second segment, Jan emailed in asking if I would consider working with substitute hosts when I was not available for the show, similar to what happens on other talk shows when the host is not available.  In general, I am open to that but running The Space Show is very equipment intensive and I use a home studio so as I told Jan, I don’t have a clue how to work with substitute or guest hosts from the logistical point of view. I told her I was open to suggestions which I am.  Earlier, I read a PR piece about the total lunar eclipse which should be seen in the Southwest the night of the 14th and the early morning of the 15th.  Anthony sent in a note correcting the times I put out as I read the PR announcement wrong.  If anyone sees it, let us know what you thought of it on the next Open Lines show.  John from Ft. Worth called back in this segment to talk about possibilities for the Russian lunar program mentioned in the article I brought up in the first segment.  He talked about the lack of interest for doing lunar activities in the U.S. and the reason for doing it is still largely national prestige.  A listener sent in an interesting question about differences in commercial space, private space, & entrepreneurial space.  Joe sent in an email commenting “what is going to happen to the space industry when Elon and SpaceX successfully land a fly-back booster?”  We discussed the premise of Joe’s question and as I said, the industry is already seeing & feeling the impact of SpaceX Falcon 9 in the market place so if they prove out reusability and its potential cost saving features, I suspect the industry will be forced to make some significant changes and adjustments in their respective business models.

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Dr. Robert Zubrin, Thursday, 3-13-14 March 14, 2014

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Dr. Robert Zubrin, Thursday, 3-13-14

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Guest:  Dr. Robert (Bob) Zubrin.  Topics:  Everything Mars, Mars Society Arctic 365 and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Zubrin back to the show for this 90 minute discussion about everything Mars and the Mars Society.  Dr. Zubrin opened up by telling us about the Mars Artic 365 program (http://ma365.marssociety.org) and their fund raising efforts through Indiegogo and other programs (www.indiegogo.com/projects/ma365-a-one-year-mars-simulation-in-the-canadian-arctic).  Throughout the entire program, Dr. Zubrin received questions/comments about Arctic 365.  He was asked about telepresence and having the sim in a more populated place than the arctic.  Bob dismissed telepresence as not being nearly as effective as having humans work “on Mars” & he stressed the importance of simulating a real Mars working mission.  Bob went over the logistics and scheduling for this first crew for Arctic 365, plus remaining opportunities and ways for people to participate in the program as the crew selection process is closed.  We talked about the costs and crew skill sets, plus Mars Society fund raising efforts for this program.  Jack emailed about radiation on Mars and as before, Bob suggested it was not as big a risk as many claim.  He was also asked about teaming up with Mars One on Arctic 365 program.  Bob said he was open to doing things with Mars One and suggested Arctic 365 would be a perfect training program those who train the Mars One crews.  Later, Bob was asked about doing a completely private mission to Mars.  Bob used this as a spring board to describing the kind of policy & political leadership in government and NASA, both of which he said absent for now.  He even proposed some broad based financing suggestions.  Doug called wanting to know his thoughts on Phobos & Deimos.  Bob used this as an opportunity to support a flyby mission. He was not that supportive of visiting the Marian moons.  Don’t miss his explanation for his position.  As the segment was ending, I asked him about life on Mars.  Bob thinks there probably is life on Mars, don’t miss what he had to say about this.

In the second segment, Steve asked Bob about the Delta V needed for going to the Moon as compared to Mars.  He talked about the Moon being easier than Mars.  Again, don’t miss all of Bob’s response to Steve’s question/comment.  NASA and political leadership were more fully discussed in this segment, then he was asked about the SLS. Here, Bob had a lot to say. While critical of SLS, he would not cancel it.  Again, don’t miss his comments on this topic.  He talked about SpaceX & Falcon 9, heavy lift in general, crew size on a Mars mission, and finally possible threats from the Chinese space program.  Toward the end he talked about electric propulsion for slow cargo missions, then I asked him for his thoughts on the Mars cycler system.

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Dr. Paul Spudis, Sunday, 1-26-14 January 27, 2014

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Dr. Paul Spudis, Sunday, 1-26-14

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Guest:  Dr. Paul Spudis.    Topics: Space policy, cislunar development, The Moon, Clementine & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Dr. Spudis back to the show for this 1 hour 54 minute wide ranging discussion on space policy, lunar activities, the Chinese space program, SLS, weapons in space, military space, and more.  In our first segment, Dr. Spudis started with a report on the Chinese lunar lander/rover and said that he was hearing there were problems with it.  Since the Chinese program is not transparent, he said it was hard to get details but even if the mission ended early, it met its goals of a soft landing on the Moon.  He had more to say about the lander, the accomplishments of the Chinese program and some of the real progress by the Chinese, especially from their next to last mission.  Dr. Spudis fielded many email questions and took calls.  Our guest then started talking about the Clementine mission given its been 20 years since this very successful program.  You can read his articles about Clementine on his website (spudislunarresources.com and also his blog, http://blogs.airspacemag.com/moon.  He also talked about LCROSS and other recent missions.  Just before the end of the first segment, Marshall phoned in to talk about taxing lunar entrepreneurial ventures. We also talked benefit sharing, global taxation, and commercial incentives.  We closed the segment with Paul talking about the economic and wealth creating potential afforded us all by cislunar development.

In the second segment, he responded to an email question about the Earth-Mars space system having a higher commercial value than cislunar.  Paul explained in some detail why that was not so & why cislunar is far greater in economic value and wealth potential.  Paul then talked about Hugh Dryden & his accomplishments, then renaming the Dryden NASA facility after Neil Armstrong.  Our next subject was American Exceptionalism with Paul blogged about last year.  We then talked about space tourism.  Paul said he was skeptical about it but we just wait and see. I mentioned a new book about Sir Richard Branson & problems with Virgin Galactic by British author Tom Bower.  Here is an article that describes what we talked about:  www.newspacejournal.com/2014/01/26/new-branson-bio-examines-delays-and-other-problems-with-virgin-galactic.  Paul got a question from Phil to describe lunar ice, then SLS John called to agree with Paul’s SLS analysis and more.  Rick was our final emailer asking about the ASRG cancellation and what this means for deep space & long duration missions.  Paul’s concluding comments again supported the wealth & economic potential for cislunar development.

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John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 1-15-14 January 16, 2014

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John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 1-15-14

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Guests: John Batchelor, Gordon Chang, Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  The Chinese space program and their lunar lander.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce.  This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com.  Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm).

During our 11 minute plus discussion, John, Gordon & I discussed the Chinese space program, their lunar lander Chang’e 3 and their lunar rover, Yutu (Jade Rabbit).  We talked about the science to be done by the rover, the high quality cameras in use, photos already taken of the landing site and of Earth and possible future aspects of the Chinese program.

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John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Thursday, 1-2-14 January 5, 2014

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John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Thursday, 1-2-14

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Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. Haym Benaroya, Dr. David Livingston.  Topics: The Chinese lunar lander and space policy, asteroid, NASA management, the Moon, Mars.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce.  This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com.  Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm).

During our 11 minute plus discussion, John, Dr. Benaroya & I discussed NASA management issues, the Chinese lunar lander and confusing press reports as to where their lander actually landed, asteroids and comets, returning to the Moon, and going to Mars.  Dr. Benaroya and I were in John’s WABC New York City studios for this short segment.

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Tom Olson, 2013 Year In Review, Tuesday, 12-31-13 December 30, 2013

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Tom Olson, 2013 Year In Review, Tuesday, 12-31-13

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Guest:  Tom Olson.   Topics:  The year 2013 in review for all things space.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Tom Olson back to the show for his 2013 space year in review.  Note that this program was pre-recorded on Dec. 19, 2013 for play today, Dec. 31, 2013.  During the first segment of our two hour program, Tom began the review by talking about the Chinese lunar lander now on the Moon.  He expressed concern that Russian and the U.S. may be left behind though we did talk about the private U.S. lunar missions working on getting back to the Moon ASAP.  Tom next talked about NewSpace successes during the year, the successful completion of the COTS program with both the Orbital and SpaceX launchers taking supplies to the ISS.  Tom suggested commercial crew was on time for 2017 and that SpaceX was making good progress with Grasshopper and potential reusability.  He talked about controversy over Pad 39A evelopment, the recent Dream Chaser accident, and the emergency of commercial markets for the ISS with CASIS and Nanoracks. Before this segment ended, Tom talked about the impact of sequestration and space politics for the industry as a whole, then he addressed SLS.  As the segment was about to end, he named a few of the 2013 busts including NASA Redirect Mission, Inspiration Mars, and Mars One.

In our second segment, we talked about space advocacy during the year and the success of the 2013 NewSpace Business Plan Competition. Space settlement was discussed and as was NewSpace outreach, including congressional outreach.  Tom talked about progress with the suborbital companies and Virgin Galactic.  This took him to the space tourism topic and the 2014 planned Virgin Galactic operational flights.  Our guest was asked about the regulatory issues in 2013 and what he thought they would be like for 2014. For the most part, he predicted no change.  We talked about financing space ventures and capital acquisition for 2013 as well as start-ups and space entrepreneurs.  He also mentioned Armadillo Aerospace going dark during the year and mentioned the risks to the emerging commercial industry if funds become scarce or hard to obtain.  Though this was a pre-recorded show, there were some advance email questions for Tom. One near the end of the program asked him about plans to do anything with his Colony Fund program.  Tom said it was a great idea but 12-15 years ahead of its time and may someday be brought back to life.  That said, he reminded us that the Colony Fund did advance the space scalable strategy.  Before our discussion ended, Tom updated us on the activities of Walt Anderson and his new ventures.

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Dr. Bruce Cordell, Friday, 12-6-13 December 7, 2013

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Dr. Bruce Cordell, Friday, 12-6-13

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We welcomed back Dr. Bruce Cordell for this 1 hour 38 minute discussion of Maslow Windows suggesting the strong possibility of a large & successful expansion of our space program by 2016, including a possible large space project on the order of Apollo or even the turn of the century Panama Canal.  To find out more about Maslow Windows, visit www.21stcenturywaves.com.

In preparation for this program, Dr. Cordell posted this on his site:  http://21stcenturywaves.com/2013/11/21/bruce-returns-to-the-space-show-on-december-6.  Make sure to click on the link for his article “10 Space Trends for 2013-Featuring the Approach of the New International Space Age.”  During our first segment, Dr. Cordell provided us with a brief introduction to Maslow Windows and the historical trends supporting this analysis.  He compared economic and financial times of past large government projects and expansions to our recent times and how we are now evolving towards a large expansion project as was the case many times over the past 200 years.  A key ingredient needed to bring about the changes Dr. Cordell spoke about is the emergency of economic growth and a national ebullient feeling, both of which are absent today.  He also said he was looking to the elections of 2014 and 2016 to produce substantial change, opening the door to the possibility pointed to by his Maslow Window analysis.  In response to one of my questions, Dr. Cordell was clear that change did not necessarily mean changing political parties.  Bruce received several questions from the NewSpace segment of the community, challenging the need for a large government space program and for SLS.  Bruce talked about this at length in both segments as listeners kept this as a front and center topic for the full program.  We also talked about the need for advances in technology to be ripe in order for the expanded space program to happen.  John from Ft. Worth called in with questions related to the Chinese program and Bruce connected dots in this conversation to his analysis.  Among the many things he said, it was clear the project being alluded to did not have to be American and could be Chinese. He also strongly advocated international participation.  We talked about Mars and going first to Phobos or Deimos, then he talked about the failed Phobos-Grunt mission.

We started the second segment with our guest pointing out similarities in JFK’s time to today, including Iran today and the Cuban Missile Crisis for JFK.  Bruce commented about huge changes going on around the world, including here in the U.S. with energy production.  Space education came up, there were lots of comments about our Congress, the administration and public disconnect over space.  This has to change for the Maslow Window to open up and produce the space expansion project.  He also talked about how we live in turbulent times and at least for now, the public and most in government do not have the stomach for the large Apollo like space project.  He said change would bring wealth creation, a better economy, and the people would soon be in a better position to want to do something like another Apollo.  Near the end, we talked about the ISS and its success.  In his concluding remarks, he pointed out that we live in scary times and that global changes were happening very fast.  This fast rate of change is a key predictors of the coming space boom.

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John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 12-4-13 December 5, 2013

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John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 12-4-13

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Guests: John Batchelor, Leonard David, Gordon Chan, Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  Chinese Chang’e 3 launch to the Moon, their lunar program.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce.  This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com.  Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm).

During our 11 minute plus discussion, John, Leonard David, Gordon Chang & I discussed the recent Chinese Chang’e 3 launch to the Moon on Dec. 2, 2013.  We discussed the lunar orbiting of the spacecraft before its attempted landing at Sinus Iridum (Bay of Rainbows).  We talked about some of the complexities of a soft landing and the scientific instrument package on board. Of special interest was the autonomous hazard avoidance capability that even NASA has not yet tried on a spacecraft. Leonard was asked about the Chinese military in their space program and their overall plans for the Moon as part of their space program.  They do have a lunar sample return mission planned and their program is advancing.  Leonard talked about their rover, the mission, and suggested it was clearly a 21st century effort.

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Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Tuesday, 12-3-13 December 4, 2013

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Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Tuesday, 12-3-13

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Guest:  Robert (Bob) Zimmerman.  Topics:  launch competition, commercial space, China, gov. space programs, budget issues.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed back Bob Zimmerman for his Tenth Anniversary Space Show program!  During the first segment of this two hour two minute program, Bob addressed many issues and listener concerns starting with the SpaceX Falcon 9 GEO launch success & the looking back to his first Space Show program on Dec. 3, 2003.  He compared and contrasted his comments then to those today. He also blogged about this on his Behindtheblack.com blog at http://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/exciting-times-in-space.  Listeners expressed their concern about the Chinese space program, their recent lunar landing mission and the day when they can put a human on the Moon.  Listeners wanted to know if this would spark a new space race between China and the U.S.  Bob said no and I agreed with him for slightly different reasons.  However, one of Bob’s consistent and recurring themes (and tonight’s discussion was no different) is that he opposes large government space programs as he says they don’t work.  He provided much evidence for this during our discussion.  During this segment we also talked extensively about launch competition and the benefits from competition in the marketplace.  Listener Al asked about DOD space and if DOD might see the Chinese space program differently.  Bob also mentioned space property rights and he said the existing situation should change based on U.S. law as the model for commercial space to flourish.  There was more talk about the Chinese program which Bob was not too concerned about.  Listen for his reasoning.  John in Ft. Worth called in to also talk about the Chinese program and suggested at some point their success might just humiliate the U.S. into competitive action.  Neither Bob or I thought it was likely that anything would humiliate congress today.  John and Bob then had an interesting discussion on this subject.

In Part 2 of our program, Dr. Lurio called in to talk about being thrilled to the bone by the SpaceX launch and to comment on NewSpace & commercial space issues. Like Bob, he opposes SLS as a big waste.  Bob and Charles then talked about their distaste for large gov. programs such as what JFK created, again saying they don’t work.  Both wondered what space and other things would look like today had JFK not been assassinated.  Dream Chaser was mentioned, again as everyone’s favorite spacecraft.  Al emailed in again to point out the differences in the space perspective of seniors and young people.  Tim called in to mention the Code of Conduct issue with possible international launch standards and how this might hurt the developing US commercial launch business.  I mentioned a Business Week article saying the suborbitals are going to look to R&D flights for repeat customers which they definitely need. Here is the article: www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-11-27/spaceflight-companies-virgin-galactic-xcor-blue-origin-eye-r-and-d-clients.  Toward the end of the program there was more talk about SLS, NASA budget issues, the need to cancel SLS per Bob’s perspective, and economic risks posed to NASA’s planetary science program.  Bob closed out the program with his comments on Inspiration Mars and Mars One, plus a Von Braun comment from 1954 in which it was reported that he said it would take 100 years of research in space to travel to Mars.  Bob said its been 60 years so far and we do not have the capability to do a human flight to Mars today.  Lurio mailed in the last comment about the NASA press conference earlier in the day with his and Bob’s reading that the planetary program was all but dead financially.  The final comments dealt with SLS and the Redirect Mission which Bob completely discounted.

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John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 11-13-13 November 14, 2013

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Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. Paul Spudis, Gordon Chang, Dr. David Livingston:  Chinese lunar launch, the Chang’e 3 mission.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce.  This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com.  Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm).

During our 11 minute plus discussion, John, Paul, Gordon, and I talked about the upcoming Chang’e 3 mission to land a lunar robotic probe on the Moon with a scheduled launch of Dec. 1, 2013.  Dr. Spudis described the instrument package, the proposed science to be done, the payload capabilities of the launcher setting the stage for future Chinese lunar missions, and the absence of an American lunar program.  Both John and Gordon expressed concern that the Chinese space program is part of their military and they asked several questions detailing their concern with China and a possible military space program.  I agreed with Paul when he said the biggest concern he had was the fact that the U.S. was not in the game, abdicating leadership to the Chinese and others.  We also talked about the power supply for the Chang’e 3 mission hardware and surviving the long and very cold lunar night using batteries.

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