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John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 11-27-13 November 28, 2013

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John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 11-27-13

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Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. Robert Zubrin.  Topics:  Manned Mars missions with Russian participation.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce.  This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com.  Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm).

During our 11 minute plus discussion, John and Dr. Robert Zubrin discussed manned missions to Mars with Russian participation.  Unfortunately, I was unable to participate due to a lousy cell phone connection as I was at a friend’s house for a party.   During the segment, Dr. Zubrin made several important points given he had just returned from Russia.  He said he found lots of people willing to do a joint Mars human mission with us but also many want to turn the clock back to Cold War days.  He had much to say about Putin and why a manned Mars mission would go a long way toward neutralizing the dark forces within Russia, including Putin.  Bob talked about advancing humanity and the investment in human capital as the return we would all benefit from in a human Mars mission.  Dr. Zubrin’s motivation for the joint Russian -US manned Mars mission seemed right on the target to me and those at the party listening to the segment on one of Batchelor’s streaming internet stations.

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Christopher (Chris) Stone, Sunday, 11-10-13 November 11, 2013

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Christopher (Chris) Stone, Sunday, 11-10-13

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Guest:  Christopher Stone. Topics:  Space advocacy and National Security Space regarding Chinese and American perceptions on space deterrence.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Christopher (Chris) Stone to the program for a 1 hour 44 minute discussion on space advocacy and an analysis of his recent Space Review article, “Re-thinking the National Security Space Strategy: Chinese vs. American perceptions of space deterrence” which appeared on TSR November 4, 2013.  You can read the article at www.thespacereview.com/article/2395/1.  Don’t forget to read the comments associated with the article.  During our first segment, we mostly talked about space advocacy issues.  Chris was asked about advocacy groups both supporting and opposing SLS as an example of their possible effectiveness in influencing policy.  As you will hear, it seems that the influence regardless of the position is marginal.   Chris suggested that many advocacy groups are not that understanding as to who is in charge of space policy and how policy is made and how it works.  He talked about policy coming from the congressional side, the White House, and industry.  Often, both the Senate and House have at least a slightly different view of policy than the other policy participants.  We also talked about unrealistic advocacy expectations and priorities.

In the second segment, we talked about the article written by our guest for TSR per the URL above.  Chris provided his perspective on our space deterrence policy as well as his perspective on the Chinese program, plus he talked about the Chinese perspective based on his readings and work in the field.  Listeners asked questions such as the Chinese view on space settlement and their lunar plans.  Another listener asked about the policy prohibiting NASA from talking with their Chinese counterparts.  Doug called to talk about ASAT tests and the vulnerability of LEO, MEO, and GEO satellites.  This discussion took us to one about the goals of responsive space strategies.  Christ talked about space weapons and possible conflicts in and around space resource utilization.  He was asked about a possible China cislunar type of program and here he referred to a 2011 Chinese White Paper regarding space resources including space solar power.  As the program drew to a close, Chris was asked about other national space programs and his perspective on them in contrast to his thoughts on the China policy.  Don’t miss his closing comments.

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Rand Simberg, Bill Simon, EVOLOTERRA, Tuesday, 7-16-13 July 17, 2013

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Rand Simberg, Bill Simon, EVOLOTERRA, Tuesday, 7-16-13

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Guests:  Rand Simberg, William (Bill) Simon.  Topics.  We talked about Evoloterra (www.evoloterra.com) & its meaning.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  We welcomed back Rand Simberg and Bill Simon for our annual Evoloterra program which remembers and honors the first time humans left Earth for another planet.  Apollo 11 launched for the Moon on July 19, 1969 and landed on the Moon on July 20, 1969.  You can learn more about Evoloterra and actually do the ceremony this Saturday evening, July 20, with your friends and families by visiting www.evoloterra.com.  Click on the astronaut’s helmet to go to the pdf of the Evoloterra ceremony.

In the first segment of our 1 hour 33 minute program, we started out by asking Rand if his new book, “Safe Is Not An Option: Overcoming The Futile Obsession With Getting Everyone Back Alive That Is Killing Our Expansion Into Space” was completed and if he would have it with him for autograph sales at the upcoming NewSpace Conference. Rand and Bill talked about the focus of the book for those not familiar with it, I offered Rand comments from various Space Show guests, and we then connected the dots with the primary focus of the book to the purpose of our program tonight, Evoloterra.  You can find out more about Rand’s book by visiting http://safeisnotanoption.com.  Bill and Rand then discussed Evoloterra and its significance, plus they talked about the story being told in Evoloterra from the beginning of Earth 14 billion years or so ago to our first leaving Earth for the Moon. This year, we wove in space policy, the budget, and also human spaceflight risk taking which is what Rand talks about in his book.  Rand repeated many times over what he has been saying for a long time, including on The Space Show, that space is not important to the policy planners in the government unless they have space jobs in their districts.  Rand brought up the issue of space settlement and he cited Steve Wolfe’s new book, “The Obligation,” as a must read on the subject.  Listeners asked about the ceremony, & if it was attempting to make space & the Moon landing into some sort of religion.  Rand talked then talked about government policies that took us to the Moon for the wrong reasons (military in the Cold War) and subsequent policies that have hobbled us in opening up the space frontier.  As the segment was ending, our guests talked about Evoloterra celebrating a long time line of individual accomplishments, all of which together, enabled us to leave Earth for the Moon for the first time.

In our shorter second segment, our guests talked about delegating space policy to congressional committees and what the significance of doing that has meant for space policy.  They spoke about the VAB at KSC and our failure to make use of it to maximize our space policy after the Apollo program ended.  Rand had more to say about our Cold War policy and its impact on space policy and development.  He suggested there have been many possible alternative trajectories for technology development over the years which we missed out on.  Our guests talked about the fact that the entrepreneurs will lead the way to space development but they also explained the ongoing importance of constructive government policy.  In response to several questions, our guests said many times over that the Evoloterra ceremony does not solve problems and we should not expect it to influence policy makers.  Rand mentioned an earlier Evoloterra Space Show program where we read the ceremony. You can find that program at http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1818-BWB-2012-07-20.mp3.  Margaret Jordan, the additional Evoloterra author was with us for this program and the reading of the Evoloterra ceremony.

If you have comments/questions for our guests, please post them on The Space Show blog.  You can email Rand & Bill through me.

Marc Fusco, Sunday, 4-28-13 April 28, 2013

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Marc Fusco, Sunday, 4-28-13

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Guest:  Marc Fusco.  Topics:  Space history and presidential politics with JFK, Presidents Johnson & Nixon.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed Marc Fusco to the program to discuss his masters thesis analysis of space history and presidential politics with JFK and Presidents Johnson and Nixon.  His analysis for his masters thesis earned him his MS degree at UND Space Studies.  In the name of full disclosure, Marc was one of my students and I served on his thesis advisory committee.  You can email Marc to get a .pdf of his thesis, “Presidents, Politics, And Policy: How The Apollo And Shuttle Decisions Shaped NASA.”  Please use stentor@mindspring.com.  During the first part of our 1 hour 50 minute discussion, Marc talked about the early years of our space program, President Kennedy, the Cold War, NASA Administrator James Webb, risk taking, the failed Bay of Pigs invasion, and the Soviet’s space program.  We moved around a bit in history, also talking about LBJ and President Nixon, but the first half of our discussion centered on President Kennedy and the Moon program, as well as the early days of NASA.  Listeners asked Marc about different historical perspectives about Apollo and he talked about the period, letting us know the perspectives from the best known of the space and policy historians.  Marc also started comparing the policy and the appreciation of space by JFK, Johnson, and Nixon. We also talked about the early days of the Space Shuttle program and OMB compromises in its design, plus the early expectation of up to 50 flights per year.

In our second segment, we talked about the waning public support for the Moon program, JFK and Nixon dynamics, and the fact that nobody wanted to be the one to pull the plug on the Moon program or human spaceflight though the costs were hard to absorb as there was competitive economic pressure from other priorities in the nation and government.  Marc spoke about the impact of both Vietnam and The Great Society on the space program in this segment.  Marc had much to say about Nixon’s main advisors and space as well as the NASA Administrators of the time.  He talked about the famous Earthrise photo taken on Apollo 8 and the start of the ecology movement which became the environmental movement. This picture also helped frame the new way of selling the space program which was to go to space to make a difference and improve things here on Earth.  The Space Shuttle program was a significant part of our second segment. Mr. Fusco led a very interesting discussion on The Space Show today.  His thesis is excellent and I suggest you contact him for a .pdf copy of it.

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Rocky Mtn. College Astronaut Panel 2, Friday Afternoon, 3-22-13 March 30, 2013

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Rocky Mtn. College Astronaut Panel 2, Friday Afternoon, 3-22-13

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Guests:  Astronaut Panel 2: Dr. John Jurist, Dr. Harrison Schmitt, Walter Cunningham, Dr. Loren Acton.  Topics:  Astronaut Panel 2 focused on spaceflight issues, policy, and in asking our panel members to share their space experiences with everyone.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.   Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.  The Copyright for this program belongs to Dr. John Jurist and Rocky Mountain College.  The Space Show has permission from the copyright holders to archive both video and audio formats on Space Show websites, video channels, blogs, and podcasting sites.  In addition to the audio format on The Space Show, blog, and podcasting websites, you can instead view the panel video at https://vimeo.com/62994324 which is on our Vimeo private Space Show channel.

We welcomed our panel members and the live Rocky Mountain College student, professor, and community audience to our afternoon 1 hour 34 minute panel in which we focused on human spaceflight, the Saturn V, the Saturn 1B, and the Space Shuttle, along with space science, risk taking, and what each panel member thought was most valuable for scientific reasons in the solar system.  We took many audience questions on a wide ranging group of topics including why spend money on space, especially in this difficult economy, solar cells, Boy Scouts and space, and what it was like to walk on the Moon.

Please post your comments and questions on The Space Show blog.  If you want to email any of our panel members, you can do so through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Dr. Robert Brodsky, Friday, 12-7-12 December 8, 2012

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Dr. Robert Brodsky, Friday, 12-7-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1909-BWB-2012-12-07.mp3

Guest:  Dr. Robert (Bob) Brodsky.   Topics: We discussed his new book, “Catch A Rocket Plane: More Tales from the Cutting Edge & Beyond,” plus his aerospace history & overview.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. We welcomed Dr. Bob Brodsky back to the show to discuss his new book which you can order at www.amazon.com/Catch-Rocket-Plane-Cutting-Beyond/dp/1467972908/ref=onegiantlea20. Remember, if you buy the book using this URL, Amazon donates to The Space Show/OGLF.  Dr. Brodsky started out by telling us how he came up with the title to his new book, a story which you will find most interesting.  He then told us stories from his book dating from WW2 through the rocket and space age to current times.  During the segment, listeners asked him many questions about our former space program as compared to our program today.  As today was the anniversary of the launch of Apollo 17, Bob was asked quite a few questions about Apollo, the mood of the country back then, space and the Cold War, and going back to the Moon or other another destination. He talked about his experience on the NERVA nuclear rocket program and why he included a chapter about false starts since so many programs were started, then cancelled by NASA and Congress. Another issue discussed was learning to live on the Moon so we could push further out into space. Bob was asked about the quality of teaching in the earlier years as compared to today.  He talked about ABET which is the accrediting board for engineering education and how that body has changed (lowered) the standards over the years.  Doug called in to ask if we had lost so much of our labor and technical expertise that we might not be able to do an Apollo like mission today.  Note the answer by Dr. Brodsky.  You might be surprised by it.  Bob also advocated the use of cost plus contracting over fixed price contracting because he said without cost plus, the boldness, creativity, risk taking, and out of the box thinking/planning gave way to traditional, conservative, and less pushing of the window in order to avoid financial risks and losses.  He suggested that fixed price contracting produced just the opposite of what we needed from our aerospace industry.  Let us know what you think about Bob’s perspective by posting on the blog.
     In our second segment, our guest told us about a movie he once pitched regarding the terrorist takeover of the ISS.  We also talked about his role with European launch alternatives with pointing systems and sounding rockets.  A listener asked him about ITAR and would it have prevented much of what he was talking about in terms of European sharing of technology early on in our space history. He thought it would have and since our guest said he was a strong proponent of international space cooperation, ITAR is seen as a probable hindrance.  In his concluding statements, Dr. Brodsky said that man was destined to do great things and go into space and settle and live there.  He was optimistic this would happen. He did suggest the 60’s as the greatest space period in our history.
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Futron Space Competitive Index 2012, Monday, 12-3-12 December 4, 2012

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Futron Space Competitive Index 2012, Monday, 12-3-12

Guests: David Vaccaro, Jonathan Beland

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Guests:  David Vaccaro, Jonathan Beland. Topics:  The Futron 2012 Space Competitive Index (SCI).  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.  We welcomed back David Vaccaro and Jonathan Beland to discuss the Futron 2012 Space Competitive Index (SCI).  You can freely download the SCI Executive Summary at www.futron.com/SCI_2012.xml. The SCI provides annual statistical benchmarks, analysis, and business intelligence for both commercial and national space activities for fifteen countries, examining markers in the Government, Human Capital and sectors.  Five new countries were added for the 2011 data which is used for the 2012 report.  The list of countries analyzed includes the U.S, Brazil, Canada, China, Europe (all of Europe, not the individual European countries), India, Israel, Japan, Russia, S. Korea, Argentina, Australia, Iran, South Africa and the Ukraine.  The five new countries added include Australia, Argentina, Iran, S. Africa, and the Ukraine.  While this program was conducted using two segments, this summary is written without regard to the segments as our discussion points crossed segments throughout the program.  As we started out, our guests provided us with a brief history regarding the SCI and clearly stated its purpose. Note that it is self-financed by Futron and remains completely independent of any & all pressures.  Also, note that again, the U.S. remains the only country of those examined that consistently declines year by year but because our government spending is so huge and our economy, despite our problems is so huge, the U.S. remains in first place as the space industry leader of all those countries studied.  Our guests told us about the benchmarks and how the SCI was constructed.  They responded to lots of listener questions, including questions about why the report is not used by candidates in political campaigns, its potential influence among those in Congress and other policy makers, and the same in other countries.  We talked about the impact of space industry workforce layoffs, the termination of Constellation and the shuttle showing up in the analysis and how such events might impact the U.S. score.  As you will hear, our team expects the 2012 data in the 2013 report to reflect these changes in our space program. A listener asked if the SCI tracked the growth of space advocacy in the U.S., wondering why it is growing but not that much in policy impact.  Other listeners asked about the growth of cubesats, especially in the U.S. and how that was reported.  Also, if ITAR was a limiting factor for the U.S.  Yet another asked our guests if the SCI viewed SpaceX as commercial or government subsidized in the context of the report and its analysis.  When asked about a future country watch list, we talked about Viet Nam, S. Korea, South America and Mexico.  In addition to lots of questions about the U.S., we talked about space in many of the other countries, why they kept investing while the U.S. seemed to be retreating.  Another issue talked about was global positive view of space, embracing more and more countries, views not always held here at home.

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Dr. Bruce Cordell, Sunday, 9-16-12 September 17, 2012

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Dr. Bruce Cordell, Sunday, 9-16-12

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Guest:  Dr. Bruce Cordell.   Topics:  Maslow Windows and a coming economic and space exploration boom.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed back Dr. Bruce Cordell to discuss new information pertaining to fractal Maslow Windows, a possible coming economic and space exploration boom.  In our first segment of this 2 hour 15 minute program, Dr. Cordell provided us with an overview of his Maslow Windows research and conclusions.  As Dr. Cordell has been a guest on The Space Show several times, this particular overview is short so if you want more information on the history behind Maslow Windows and his research, please listen to the earlier discussions with our guest and visit his website, www.21stcenturywaves.com. We also talked about his presentation at this year’s Mars Society Conference.  You can follow along with this PowerPoint by visiting http://21stcenturywaves.com/2012/09/16/bruces-mars-society-convention-presentation-8312. After his overview, Dr. Cordell talked about earlier economic panics, comparing them to today, plus two other influencing factors, war/conflict, and a political realignment seeking prosperity.  During our discussion, Dr. Cordell makes the case that history is repeating itself and given current events including recent events in the Middle East, with our economy, and globally, it is very likely that around 2014-2015 we will be entering another Maslow Window opportunity for prosperity and a great exploration which he believes will be something to do with space exploration.  Several listeners called the program to ask him questions about his theory.  Some of the questions dealt with our present manufacturing & industrial capabilities as compared to the 60’s, global as well as domestic economic conditions & pressures, and human spaceflight risk assessment.
        In our longer second segment, Doug was the first caller with questions about planetary missions around water, mission economics, and how this factored into the analysis Dr. Cordell was sharing with us. Bruce made a point of being specific that it was the history that was helping to predict the future, citing the numerous historical periods similar to the one we are in now and the great projects that followed including Apollo and the Panama Canal as examples. In this segment, he discusses many other relevant historical periods and examples as well.  I asked him how he knew that the great project being predicted would be in space rather than in something else.  You will find his response interesting but Jerry emailed in the idea that the great project could be The Bering Straights rail freight tunnel.  This sparked a bit of a discussion during the balance of the program.  Later in this segment, Bruce said he had looked at more than 200 years of our history.  He also suggested that if we miss the current Maslow Window coming up, history points to the next one happening around 2070.  During both segments, Dr. Cordell was asked about factors in our coming presidential election making a difference including education, culture, the media, and ultimately who gets elected.  We discussed Maslow Windows from the perspective of their helping to make a great leader rather than a great leader bringing about the window. Near the end of the program, Terry asked about our $16 trillion deficit. Don’t miss what Bruce had to say about this.  He also addressed cultural and media issues.
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Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson, Tuesday, 3-6-12 March 6, 2012

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Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson, Tuesday, 3-6-12

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Guest:  Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson.  Subject:  Dr. Tyson talks space policy along with his new book, “Space Chronicles: Facing The Ultimate Frontier” and his article in the current edition of Foreign Affairs, , “The Case For Space: Why We Should Keep Reaching for the Stars.” You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson back to the show for a comprehensive hour long discussion on space policy, the NASA budget, investment in our future, the space race, and many more issues as pointed out in both his Foreign Affairs article and in his new book.  Remember, if you order his book using the following Amazon link, Amazon will make a contribution to The Space Show/One Giant Leap Foundation: www.amazon.com/Space-Chronicles-Facing-Ultimate-Frontier/dp/0393082105/ref=onegiantleap20.  You can read his Foreign Affairs article at www.scribd.com/doc/82592118/The-Case-for-Space.  During our hour with Neil, we discussed the NASA budget and why it should be increased.  Dr. Tyson also pointed out why humor was so important and what it really means as I asked him about the joking and kidding around regarding space when he visits programs such as The Daily Show.  Neil also made the case for more space activity and talked about spinoffs but additionally he talked about the economic growth that comes from innovation and inspiration, along with unplanned and fortunate discoveries. Here, he cited the Hubble Space Telescope and mammograms as an example.  He also suggested that with a space program that is innovative and doing what it should be doing, the STEM education problems are solved in the process.  We talked about NASA not being one of the key scientific government agencies anymore and he was upset that this was and is not being corrected.  Dr. Tyson had much to say about the role of the private sector in space development in that government typically puts down the infrastructure and opens the industry door with the privates coming after, expanding the industry, operating more efficiently, and developing markets.  A listener asked about planetary defense and asteroids, another listener inquired about space enthusiasts running for political office, and Jon suggested that giving NASA a bigger budget would just be a waste as NASA is all about pork.  Neil addressed all of these questions and more.  I urge listeners to read his book and if possible, read the Foreign Affairs article before you listen to the interview. During our discussion, Dr. Tyson said some very powerful things.  For example, note our discussion on the NASA budget as an investment, not an expense.  Neil described himself as an educator so listen to what he had to say about how to influence people and create change through education by teaching real science and facts so people can make truly informed choices.  Pay attention to what he said about a country that does not invest in its future and why space should be the future getting the investment benefit.  Throughout this interview, Neil powerfully reminded us all that even in tough economic times like today, NASA has been instrumental in shaping our national identity, inspiring us, driving our economy, driving careers in the STEM disciplines, and bringing us landmark, groundbreaking new technologies.  I personally believe that Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson makes a very good case for space.   Please post any comments/questions you might have for Dr. Tyson on The Space Show blog URL above.

 

 

Blue Sky Metropolis Walking Tour with Peter Westwick, Tuesday, 12-20-11 December 20, 2011

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Blue Sky Metropolis Walking Tour, Tuesday, 12-20-11

The Huntington Library Exhibit Guided by Peter Westwick

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1674-BWB-2011-12-20.mp3

Guest:  Peter Westwick.  Topics:  This was a walking tour through the Huntington Library’s “Blue Sky Metropolis: The Aerospace Century in Southern California” exhibit. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see and act upon our appeal at

http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign.  Joining Mr. Westwick and me for this tour was Space Show friend Reda Anderson.  To find out more about the exhibit, the Huntington hours of operation and more, visit www.huntington.org.  To learn more about the Blue Sky exhibit, visit  http://huntington.org/huntingtonlibrary_02.aspx?id=9892.  Note that the exhibit runs through January 9, 2012.  If you are inSouthern California or will be there, this is a must see exhibit.  We started our walking tour with Peter Westwick by discussing the large photograph welcoming visitors to the Blue Sky Metropolis exhibit.  You can see this photo on the Blue Sky home page at the above link.  Turning around in the entry hall, we saw an actual lunar R-18 rocket motor. As we entered the gallery, we quickly grasped the organization of the exhibit from Taking Flight: 1900-1920; The Golden Age of Aviation: 1920-1940; World War II; The Big Chill: The Early Cold War; From Aero to Space: The Space Race; Secrecy and Stealth: The Deep Cold War; and Coming Back to Earth: Post Cold War.  Peter took us through each section in order and highlighted many of the photographs and documents during this one hour plus guided tour.  Reda and I asked lots of questions, we pointed out items that caught our attention, and asked Peter to elaborate on them.  At the end of the exhibit, there is information on launching the Falcon 9 from theCape.  They also have a model from JPL of the Explore 1, our first satellite.  Additionally, there is a model of the original Hughes Syncon geo satellite.  As we ended our tour with Peter, we inquired about the educational outreach efforts with students and others to learn about this important history.  We talked about theCalifornia aerospace industry of today and my experience doing California Space Day with the former California Space Authority.  I asked if anyCalifornia elected representatives or their staff have visited the exhibit.  I also made my usual plea for the need to educate our elected officials so they know the history and its relevance to our future.  Again, I urge you to visit this exhibit if you can.  Remember, it closes on January on 9th.  Please post your comments and questions on The Space Show blog URL above.  If you want to email Peter Westwick or Reda Anderson, send your note to me and I will forward it the person of your choice.

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