Dr. Joan Vernikos, Friday, 4-5-13 April 5, 2013Posted by The Space Show in Uncategorized.
Tags: closed loop life support system, CME, Dr. Joan Vernikos, evidenced based medicine, exercise routines, Galactic Cosmic Radiation, human factors, Inspiration Mars, launch license, life support, long duration spaceflight psychological issues, Mars, microgravity, radiation counter measures, radiation mitigation, regulatory approval., shielding, spacecraft air quality, yoga
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Dr. Joan Vernikos, Friday, 4-5-13
Guest: Dr. Joan Vernikos. Topics: Inspiration Mars flyby mission, human factors, counter measures, mitigation strategies. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.
We welcomed Dr. Joan Vernikos back to the program, this time to discuss the proposed Inspiration Mars flyby mission. In the first half of our two hour program, Dr. Vernikos said it was a doable mission but that new ideas and solutions needed to be developed for the human factors. When asked about the biggest problem, our guest said it would be the ability of the two person crew to get along and work together for the full mission. This issue came up several more times during the program so you will hear more about it over the two hour discussion. We took an early question from Dwayne about the overall air quality in the spacecraft and issues with bacteria and the air filtration. Dr. Joan had much to say about this as it could be a problem depending on lots of factors including the ability to repair a damaged system during the mission. Dr. Joan talked about life support and psychological issues along with the human factors. Microgravity and radiation issues came up but again, there was a focus on the risk of destructive & irritating behavior with the crew members. One of the recurrent themes was to look for alternative ways to develop tools and counter measures rather than doing much the same year after year which has been our history in developing human spaceflight protocols. Dr. Rowe called in to strongly suggest that such a flyby mission should be delayed until 2032, putting forth his best arguments for the delay and why it should not be attempted in 2018. Bill listed lots of medical events that could happen and which we cannot treat in space, all in support of delaying the flight until human spaceflight is better developed & we know more about it.
In the second segment, Doug called & talked about regulators possibly saying the crew was intentionally attempting to commit suicide. He talked about the medical code 5150 regarding intentional suicide. We also talked about possible regulatory issues around the issuance of a launch license. Doug also talked about radiation, both within the Van Allen Belts and on the way to deep space. Next, Dr. Dilip Sarkar from Norfolk called in to discuss alternative human factor countermeasures such as yoga. Check our Dr. Sarkar’s website, https://sites.google.com/site/dilipsarkar/home. The discussion of yoga for pre-flight training and to help with countermeasures was most interesting. Dr. Rowe called in several more times to challenge Dr. Joan and Dr. Sarkar on their yoga theories regarding spaceflight. I believe you will find the discussions and calls very informative. As the program was ending, Dr. Joan was again asked about the biggest challenge and she said it would be the human interaction with the crew. We also talked about the mental issue of withdrawal from Earth which will be pronounced on a Mars flight.
If you have comments/questions, post them on the blog. You can email Dr. Joan through her website, www.joanvernikos.com. I also recommend you sign up for her newsletter.
Dr. Duane Graveline, Friday, 1-25-13 January 24, 2013Posted by The Space Show in Uncategorized.
Tags: Alexei Leonov. animal studies, Apollo, astronaut, astronaut water return, bed rest studies, bone density, commercial space, complete adaptation to zero gravity for mission duration, Dr. Duane Graveline, Galactic Cosmic Radiation, Group 4- The Scientists, Heather Archuletta, HSF to Mars, hydro pod, hydropod for astronaut Earth return, immersion tank, in-flight microgravity countermeasures, ISS, Laika, long duration spaceflight, Lower Body Negative Pressure (LBNP device), mice/animal centrifuge studies, MIR, on orbit exercise, post landing gravity readaptation on Earth., private sector astronauts, Soviet space program, test pilots, tilt studies, USAF Flight Surgeon, water immersion., Zero G, zero gravity
Dr. Duane Graveline, Friday, 1-25-13
Co-Host Heather Archuletta
Guests: Dr. Duane Graveline, Heather Archuletta. Topics: Bed rest microgravity simulation studies. Dr. Graveline is the father of this research. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. We welcomed Dr. Duane Graveline to the program to discuss bed rest simulation microgravity studies, the early days of pioneering of his having pioneered this research, aerospace medicine and much more in our 1 hour 23 minute discussion. Dr. Graveline is the father of this research dating back to the late 1950s. Please visit his website, www.spacedoc.com. Heather Archuletta, the Pillownaut Astronaut, returned to co-host with me for this important discussion. Check out Heather’s blog posts about Dr. Graveline and his work at http://pillownaut.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-bed-pilot-pioneer.html. Dr. Graveline has allowed us to use two specific pictures referring to his pioneering work and both are on The Space Show blog per the above URL. Picture 1 is Dr. Graveline’s water immersion tank and Picture 2 is the LBNP device. He discusses both of these in the program’s first segment. Dr. Graveline started out with an overview of his early work, how he got into the field, his decision to join the Air Force and why this area of medicine interested him. He explained his early bed rest tests and talked about the challenges with the test subjects. Heather and Dr. Graveline compared those early tests to those of today that Heather has participated in. It was a fascinating compare and contrast, especially regarding the discipline of test subjects then and now. Dr. Graveline talked about water immersion, the aerospace lab he used, and his water immersion tank. Don’t forget to check out the picture of it on the blog. Dr. Graveline is looking through the window at the floating test subject. Would you like to float as Dr. Graveline explained for one full week nonstop? Throughout our discussion, Dr. Graveline told us many interesting and sometimes funny stories from his past like his visit to the Today Show and their wanting him to wear “flippers!” Our guest described the low body negative pressure device (LBNP) which you can see in the second photo on the blog. He talked about it, the old Soviet program, Mir and tilt table tests. Dr. Graveline talked extensively about the Soviet program, how he was able to monitor much of their data, & he told us about Alexi Leonov when he had serious problems when caught outside his spaceship. Many questions were asked about early animal studies, Laika, and more. He told us how they were able to do blood pressure readings on dogs & the Soviets bragged about it since Dr. Graveline was able to figure out, copy, & improve the Soviet system. Mice and centrifuge studies were discussed in some detail & Heather and Dr. Graveline had comprehensive discussions about exercise in the bed rest studies of today as compared to none in the early days of the studies. Dr. Graveline talked with Heather about his idea to abandon exercise in space so the astronauts could concentrate on their work, then return in a hydropod and rehab completely back on Earth for a few months. You don’t want to miss this discussion or explanation from Dr. Graveline as to why this approach should be considered and tested by NASA.
In the second segment, we talked about bone density issues and the applicability of space research and findings to terrestrial medical issues for people with this medical problem. He was asked about a long duration HSF to Mars and he said the bigger problem was galactic radiation which he talked about in some detail. He said that as of today, there are no mitigation tools for this problem. The discussion went back and forth about water immersion and the use of the hydropod for returning astronauts & Heather talked about prohibitive costs & that immersion is not used today. One of our UK listeners asked Dr. Graveline about his being part of Group 4 – The Scientists. As this was the first astronaut group that was not composed of test pilots, our listener wanted to know about the selection process & getting more scientists to the Moon & on missions. Dr. Graveline had much to say about this subject & shared with us some terrific & historical stories from the past. He talked about Spacelab, astronaut Bill Pogue, & shared science stories with us. During our program, Heather, with her bed rest study experience & her recruiting work (listen to her Space Show program on the studies she has recent completed at http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1926-BWB-2013-01-08.mp3 from Jan. 8, 2013), contributed greatly to the discussion and Dr. Graveline was equally interested in talking with her about the program today as compared to the program he started decades ago. Dr. Graveline’s book, “From Laika With Love: Secret Soviet Gifts to Apollo,” is still available. If you order it from Amazon using this link, Amazon will make a contribution to The Space Show/OGLF: http://www.amazon.com/From-Laika-With-Duane-Graveline/dp/1424338700/ref=onegiantlea20. Dr. Graveline was also asked about the use of his research today and if young scientists & researchers interested in the field still study his early work. He said yes and talked about how much easier it was to do that today due to the internet.
If you have questions/ comments for Dr. Duane Graveline or Heather Archuletta, post them on The Space Show blog per the URL above. If you want to email Dr. Graveline or Heather, you can do so through me. You can also comment and contact Heather through her blog which is mentioned earlier in this summary.
Here are Dr. Graveline’s photos discussed above:
Dr. Marcelo Vazquez, Friday, 11-23-12 November 23, 2012Posted by The Space Show in Uncategorized.
Tags: astronaut safety, chemical rocket propulsion, Curiosity, Dr. Marcelo Vazquez, Earth radiation, Galactic Cosmic Radiation, Mars transit times, solar particle event
Dr. Marcelo Vazquez, Friday, 11-23-12