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Open Lines, Sunday, 4-13-14 April 14, 2014

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Open Lines, Sunday, 4-13-14

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Guest:  Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston. Topics: Russian lunar program, UFOs, SpaceX & reusability, NASA.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

Today’s Open Lines discussion took place over a few segments and for about 1 hour 45 minutes.  Our Open Lines discussion started with my providing scheduling announcements as there will be no live shows the week of April 21 due to  medical issues I need to address.  Rather than play specific OLDIE programs which I usually do in the absence of a live show, I suggested that listeners go through the archives and listen to an archived show or two of their choice, compare what you heard on the archived show to similar issues in space today, then call our next special Open Lines show which will probably be Sunday, April 27 and share your thoughts and perspectives with us.  For this Open Lines program,  I also suggested a few discussion topics including Russia’s Putin saying “We are coming to the Moon FOREVER” as reported in the MailOnline on April 11, 2014.  You can read the article I discussed on the show at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2602291/We-coming-Moon-FOREVER-Russia-sets-plans-conquer-colonise-space-including-permanent-manned-moon-base.html.  It reported Russia wanted to go to the Moon, colonize it and stay there as Russia was viewing the Moon as its own permanent colony along with similar colonies it wants to establish on Mars and asteroids.  Putin also mentioned Russia was in a race to the Moon.  Next, we fielded a few email listener questions, then John from Ft. Worth called the program to discuss an H2 documentary he saw on UFOs, “I know What I Saw.”  John talked about the documentary and other items for most of the balance of our first segment. His discussion topics included various presidential statements to Air Force and other official statements to noted UFO/ET incidents that have been reported around the world. While this is not a usual Space Show topic, it does come up from time to time.  I’ve not seen the documentary John referenced but if you want to see it, do a Google search for “I Know What I Saw” and you will find it on YouTube.  I’ll probably watch it at some point but in reading the comments about it, the reviews are definitely mixed. John also talked about the upcoming SpaceX Falcon 9 launch and its reusability plans. He asked some thoughtful technical questions about reusability but I was unable to answer them. I was hoping a listener would call in with answers as I know many who listen to The Space Show follow the Falcon 9 and reusability in great detail but they did not call in today. For those of you listening on archives, if you would like to respond to John’s comments and questions, please do so on The Space Show blog.

In our second segment, Jan emailed in asking if I would consider working with substitute hosts when I was not available for the show, similar to what happens on other talk shows when the host is not available.  In general, I am open to that but running The Space Show is very equipment intensive and I use a home studio so as I told Jan, I don’t have a clue how to work with substitute or guest hosts from the logistical point of view. I told her I was open to suggestions which I am.  Earlier, I read a PR piece about the total lunar eclipse which should be seen in the Southwest the night of the 14th and the early morning of the 15th.  Anthony sent in a note correcting the times I put out as I read the PR announcement wrong.  If anyone sees it, let us know what you thought of it on the next Open Lines show.  John from Ft. Worth called back in this segment to talk about possibilities for the Russian lunar program mentioned in the article I brought up in the first segment.  He talked about the lack of interest for doing lunar activities in the U.S. and the reason for doing it is still largely national prestige.  A listener sent in an interesting question about differences in commercial space, private space, & entrepreneurial space.  Joe sent in an email commenting “what is going to happen to the space industry when Elon and SpaceX successfully land a fly-back booster?”  We discussed the premise of Joe’s question and as I said, the industry is already seeing & feeling the impact of SpaceX Falcon 9 in the market place so if they prove out reusability and its potential cost saving features, I suspect the industry will be forced to make some significant changes and adjustments in their respective business models.

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Lee Hutchinson, Monday, 3-17-14 March 18, 2014

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Lee Hutchinson, Monday, 3-17-14

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Guest:  Lee Hutchinson.  Topics:  The possible Columbia Space Shuttle rescue mission.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Lee Hutchinson to the program to discuss his recent article, “The audacious rescue plan that might have saved space shuttle Columbia” which you can read at http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/02/the-audacious-rescue-plan-that-might-have-saved-space-shuttle-columbia.  Note that Mr. Hutchinson said he found the possible rescue plan spelled out in the CAIB report in seldom discussed Appendix D13 of the report.  In questioning Lee, we also learned that the plan did not exist real time with Columbia but was actually requested as part of the Columbia Accident Investigation Board’s work.  In the first segment of our 1 hour 28 minute program, our guest told us why he wrote the article and how he noticed the possible rescue plan back when he was tasked with reviewing the CAIB Report.  During this segment, our guest described all parts of the plan and we discussed the likelihood of it having worked had it been implemented.  Lee also discussed probable & significant timing issues with parts of the rescue plan making it unlikely to have been implemented had it been a real time plan under consideration.  It was dependent upon too many things happening precisely on time and schedule, something that was not always possible with shuttle launches.  Lee also went over the specific crew training issues that would have been required, plus issues in using EVA suits and getting them to and from Columbia for the astronauts to use.  Listeners asked many questions including questions about NASA management at the time, risk averseness, & the NASA culture. Lee was asked about the comments & feedback he received from writing his article.  As the segment ended, Mr. Hutchinson discussed plane change maneuvers and the significance of the orbital inclination of Columbia and the ISS.

In the second segment, a Cleveland listener ask for Lee’s thoughts on SLS-Orion.  Lee & I talked about this & the NASA culture plus the need for heavy lift assuming there are missions for it.  He was asked if the shuttle could fly without pilots, then we went back to SLS.  He also told us about his interest in the redesign of the F1 engine.  You can read his articles on the F1 here:  http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/04/how-nasa-brought-the-monstrous-f-1-moon-rocket-back-to-life; http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/04/new-f-1b-rocket-engine-upgrades-apollo-era-deisgn-with-1-8m-lbs-of-thrust.  Lee received several email questions regarding the foam strike on Columbia & foam modification efforts.  He was also asked about the shuttle repair kit which was carried on subsequent shuttle flights.  Benny asked if a 3D printer on board could have made the materials to repair the Columbia damage.

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Mark Bray, Tuesday, 2-11-14 February 12, 2014

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Mark Bray, Tuesday, 2-11-14

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Guest:  Mark Bray.  Topics:  Huntsville area space update, SLS from the inside, U.S. space policy, leadership issues. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed back Mark Bray for a Huntsville space area update and a unique view from the inside on SLS and U.S. space policy.  In the first segment of our 1 hour 49 minute discussion, Mark shared his personal assessment of the Huntsville area space economy, the moods of contractors and NASA workers, & the space IQ for the Huntsville general population.  For the most part, Mark reported stability but lots of uncertainty.  In contrast, the last time Mark did an area update for us, there were still layoffs happening, lots of uncertainty and personal stress, and stability was far from the scene.  We then switched to SLS which was a topic through most of the show because Mark is a contractor working on SLS.  Its important to note that Mark was speaking for himself on the program, not for his employer, NASA, or his fellow workers and area space employees.  Mark works in the SLS materials lab so we asked him all sorts of questions about the big rocket.  For example, I drilled him on the mood of SLS workers given they certainly had to know about the hate-love war going on over SLS within the space community.  Mark answered all these questions for us, including questions about possible competitive pressure from SpaceX.  We talked extensively about commercial space development and the need for commercial markets.  Mark spent some time on the issue of markets because without them, one has no viable commercial activity.  Mark then honed in on the problem of political leadership regarding space saying that NASA and related organizations were not the problem. This opened the door for multiple discussions during the balance of the program going after what Mark and I both thought was an absence of quality political leadership in the country and the partisan warfare between the two main parties preventing workable solutions for many if not all the nation’s problems.  Before the segment ended, I asked Mark about the Chinese lunar lander & robot and what people thought about it.  He said most were frustrated that we (the U.S.) was not doing more as we were not operating even close to our potential.

In the second segment, Doug called to ask about public/private partnerships, COTS like programs, and he talked about his Lunar Cots ideas.  Doug asked about reducing costs.  Mark seized the opportunity to again state that engineering technology & NASA management were not the real problems but that leadership issues in Washington were at the center of the problems.  John then called from Ft. Worth.  He wanted to talk about SLS cost numbers & asked Mark why it was so expensive given the assumption that much of it came from already developed projects including Ares components and more. Don’t miss what Mark had to say about this.  John then asked Mark for his personal thoughts on the news that SpaceX will build a rocket larger than the Saturn V in about ten years.  Again, don’t miss his answer.  Near the end of the show, in summary mode, Mark repeated that the biggest challenge was a market challenge.  What is the market? Is there a long term market? How big is the market?  As the show was ending, we asked Mark about the viability of human spaceflight.

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Open Lines, Sunday, 1-12-14 January 13, 2014

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Open Lines, Sunday, 1-12-14

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Guest:  Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston.  Topics: A wide ranging discussion focusing on student space inspiration, heavy lift, SLS, commercial space & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

Welcome to this 2 hour 11 minute wide ranging discussion with a surprising debate between two callers in the latter part of the second half of the show.  During the first segment, we started out with a call from Paul to talk about his AIAA Spaceflight Challenge Program for inspiring students.  The purpose of this program is to inspire students to be involved in space development and exploration.  Paul will keep us posted on the project as it develops over the coming months.  Charles Pooley called in next to tell us that his Microlaunchers book was out and that he and his co-author would be on The Space Show to discuss it in detail Monday, Jan. 13, 2014.  The book, “Microlaunchers: Technology for a New Space Age,” is available through Amazon.  If you buy it and I suggest you do, use the OGLF Amazon portal so Amazon will make a contribution to The Space Show.  Directions for doing this are on each blog archive, website archive, TSS website home page and on www.onegiantleapfoundation.org.  Let me know if you have any questions.  I believe you will be impressed with his long awaited book and hats off to Charles for finally getting it done and for doing a terrific job with it.

In our second segment, we took a call from an upstate NY college student inquiring about the returning to the Moon, lunar commerce and such.  Following Eric’s call, Marshall called in from Texas to talk about how inspiring TSS has been for him.  We also talking space mining issues with him, the use of robots and more.  Our next caller was SLS John.  John is a strong advocate for SLS and he again articulated the case for the completion of SLS.  I challenged him again with the usual arguments against SLS which did not phase him.  Dr. Jurist wanted to comment on what SLS John was saying so using another phone line, Dr. Jurist (Montana John) and SLS John had a lengthy and detailed exchange, both supporting heavy lift and SLS , although with reservations, especially from Montana John as you will hear in their discussion.  Its an interesting discussion but I doubt it will change the minds of listeners regardless of how they see and think about SLS.  That said, I strongly suggest you listen to their entire discussion many key points were addressed by both callers.  As the show was ending, I went over some of the key upcoming guests scheduled for The Space Show.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  If you want to reach any of the callers, do so through drspace@thespaceshow.com.

The Space Show Classroom with Drs. Jurist & Logan, Monday, 1-6-14 January 7, 2014

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The Space Show Classroom with Drs. Jurist & Logan, Monday, 1-6-14

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Guests: Dr. Jim Logan, Dr. John Jurist.  Topics:  Space advocacy magical/fantasy thinking, radiation, rockets, HSF & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed back Drs. Jurist and Logan to this CLASSROOM program which addressed many issues of the 2 hours 1 minute broadcast.  We started out with Dr. Logan discussing fantasy or magical thinking going back to the influence of a 2001 Space Odyssey movie poster had on him.  From there, Jim went into a discussion about Constellation, then the Space Shuttle as examples of what he was talking about and as to how programs and faulty ideas grow and multiply.  He also talked about life science challenges.  A listener asked him about space politics, then Dr. Jurist offered additional examples with a focus on air launch.  Our guests then discussed thinking based on agendas and ideology.  One of the keys suggested for breaking out of this magical thinking mode involved surrounding yourself with really smart people.  Later, I offered my perspective on that given my own experiences early on in Space Show time and before.   Both Jim and John said a few times that one needs to know his or her limitations.  Our guests then talked due diligence with assumption building, fact checking, disclosures, and more.  I relayed my own wake -up call experience due to Al Zaehringer who was on the show several times years ago before he passed on.  Before the segment ended, Jim told us a story about the Wright Brothers and their Wright Flyer experience.  In our second segment, John Hunt called in to talk about Jim’s Space Shuttle comments.  This was a lengthy discussion with John, Jim, & John Jurist.  Jim talked about advantages with Saturn V including economic advantages over shuttle to LEO.  Subjects of reusability came up along with issues of getting a specific payload to orbit which our guests suggested advocacy often glosses over with facts and trades for payload mass fractions involved in reusability.  Dr. Logan brought up and discussed what he called NASA Brinkmanship Strategy.  Jim then talked about the reality of sending payloads to the ISS using shuttle.   Trent in Australia sent a message about magical thinking with Mars One.  Our last caller was Alan from St. Louis who said John and Jim were too negative in their discussion.  Alan then talked about using smaller rockets over heavy lift and was working to make the case that we have to work with what we have.  He also talked about evolving up from smaller, not starting off with the biggest.  Each of us responded to Alan.  It’s a discussion you do not want to miss.

Please post your comments/questions on either or both The Space Show Blog above or The Space Show Classroom blog, http://spaceshowclassroom.wordpress.com.  You can reach all of the participants including the callers through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Dr. William Halal, Sunday, 1-5-14 January 6, 2014

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Dr. William Halal, Sunday, 1-5-14

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Guest:  Dr. William (Bill) Halal.  Topics:  Space forecasting for the near and long term.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Dr. William Halal to our program for a 1 hour 48 minute discussion on predictions for both near and long term space development.  In our first segment, we focused on the near term predictions that mostly centered on continued growth of space commercialization and the emergence of space tourism.  Additional topics talked about in the first segment included the Chinese space program and its possible impact on the U.S. space program, heavy lift and SLS, the space media and its potential space tourism accident response, commercial activity on the ISS, and space entrepreneurism.  Dr. Halal also directed our attention to his website, www.techcast.org which will soon migrate to www.technicalglobal.com.  Listeners asked our guest about the biggest challenges facing both commercial space and space tourism, then our guest talked about big growth possibilities with solar satellites.  Issues were addressed regarding our congress, economics, and the tensions among all the players.

In the second segment, we talked about knowledge emerging as the powerful tool of the near to intermediate term.  Dr. Halal suggested tourism would be in place around 2015 and the commercial industry would keep developing to the 2020 range.  John called from Ft. Worth to draw comparisons to our early military and aviation history, suggesting the role of the government might be to continue developing hardware and infrastructure that would eventually enhance the commercial players much the way the military aircraft had dual use with the commercial industry.  John also had comments about asteroid missions which our guest brought up in this segment.  Dr. Halal mentioned the potential of interstellar travel around 2070 and the possibility of solar satellites coming on line much sooner.  We talked about going to Mars and the Moon and about Mars One and Inspiration Mars.  Doug was the next caller and he talked about depots and large rockets, specifically for missions BLEO and the Moon.  Doug brought up SpaceX heavy lift concepts, Martian terraforming, and SpaceX orbital human spaceflight around 2017.  As our program was ending, we talked about the rate of change going on in the world today and its impact on people in different age groups.  He said we all need to be prepared for a turbulent and transformative time as he does not believe current global systems are sustainable and will have to make way for new systems and programs.

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Golden Oldie Tom Olson Space Year 2012 In Review, Monday, 12-30-13 December 30, 2013

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Golden Oldie Tom Olson Space Year 2012 In Review, Monday, 12-30-13

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Guest: Tom Olson. Topics: The year 2012 is reviewed from the space perspective and we look forward to space development in 2012. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

Welcome to the final program of our Golden Oldie series, The Space Decade In Review. For this program which originally aired on Dec. 31, 2012, Tom Olson gave us his annual Space Show year in review analysis with a look forward to 2013 for space development. We started our 1 hour 36 minute discussion by remembering those in our space community that are no longer with us. We specifically mentioned three dear friends though we know that others have also left us. Our program was dedicated to Neil Armstrong, Jesco von Puttkamer, and Reda Anderson. We certainly miss our friends but space development marches on like everything else in life. A few of the early issues Tom brought up in the 2012 annual overview of space included the Falcon 9 launches and Dragon missions. He also talked about ISDC and birthing of Dragon during the keynote by NASA Administrator Charlie Bolden. While on the subject of SpaceX and its mission to the ISS, Paul sent in a question asking if SpaceX dropping out of the Stratolaunch project indicated that perhaps they had “bitten off more than they could chew.” Tom and I have no inside information about SpaceX and Stratolaunch but we both thought that Paul’s comment was reasonable as SpaceX is certainly busy enough with game changing projects & technology. Cubesats were discussed given their rise in popularity and importance in 2012. It seems as if their potential is more than on the rise! Cubesat growth also cuts across many diverse space industry segments and niche markets. Bev asked about the future of 3-D printing and its potential impact on future human spaceflight (HSF). 3-D printing is certainly experiencing space industry growth & there will soon be a small 3-D printer on the ISS. Heavy lift came up and much was said about the Falcon Heavy and SLS, both looking back over 2012 & forward to 2013.

In our second segment, I asked if fuel depots would evolve from the Power Point & rhetoric stage to something more tangible in 2013. We talked about depots as many of the projects announced in 2012 use depot technology to enable their plan. Tom talked about warp drive becoming more possible due to the 2012 work of Dr. Sonny White. Dr. White will be a guest on The Space Show Friday, January 4, 2013. Tom next brought up NASA budget issues & possible cuts. He talked about science mission cuts, the JWST, and on the HSF side, SLS eating up much of the budget with commercial crew still needing funding. I asked Tom how he thought space advocacy made out during 2012. Mixed was a one word summary of this discussion. Next, we talked about space settlement being made part of the U.S. space policy in 2013. Tom went over the pros & cons surrounding this effort. Doug called in about space settlement & I referred him to earlier programs with Steve Wolfe who authored the Space Settlement Act of 1988 which is part of public law. Tom said space settlement was SLS dependent & that makes the potential policy controversial to many space enthusiasts since many oppose SLS. Tom said 2012 was a good year for new commercial space grandiose missions such as Golden Spike, Planetary Resources, Mars One, a lunar base, Shackleton Energy, even EML2 missions. He kept asking the questions regarding objectives, who pays, the reasons for the missions, and more. He said most of these missions rely on some form of large launcher, either the Falcon Heavy SLS. Tom talked about ITAR reform that has been signed by both houses of Congress & is applicable to the U.S. satellite industry. Human rating of the Atlas came up for a 2012 progress report, then Dave in San Antonio inquired about cyber warfare & the space industry in 2012 & the future. 2012 marked the year the space shuttles went on display in museums & Tom talked about the Russian space program investments for modernization over the coming decade. He also talked about other national space programs. Near the end of our program, we brought up the Spaceport America liability issue & the risks facing the New Mexico spaceport. Tom updated us for 2013 on the NewSpace Business Plan Competition & his work with the Exodus Group for space business consulting.

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Dr. Mike Griffin, Tuesday, 10-29-13 October 30, 2013

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Dr. Mike Griffin, Tuesday, 10-29-13

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Guest:  Dr. Mike Griffin.  Topics:  This was a wide ranging and broad discussion re US space policy, commercial space, HSF, lunar issues, & more.  . Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm

During the first segment of our 91 minute discussion with Mike, we talked about the lack of a coherent national space policy and how best to use tax payer dollars for the public good.  Mike discussed the fact that there was no credible alternative to the RTM program, no clear path to any set of discernible goals.  I asked Mike about NASAs asteroid redirect mission.  He did say it had interesting potential and it was better than nothing but as listeners agreed, it was not a grabbing and inspiring program.  Listeners asked Mike about Constellation which he said was a space system architecture.  We talked about a lunar base and access to Mars.  I asked Mike about the public’s interest in space & you don’t want to miss his response.  Daniel brought up budget issues, commercial ventures, and the current administration.  We also talked public/private partnerships and multi-year programs and policy challenges.  Mike was asked about the VSE and bipartisan support though Jon emailed in his disagreement on that issue.  Mike talked about goals as being important to congress and the need for an effective policy to have bipartisan support.  Mike was asked about the ISS and the potential for discovery and we he responded to a listener question about the mass needed in orbit to support a lower mass on the Moon.  The ratio is 10::1. 

In the second segment, June asked about economies of size in launch vehicles and heavy lift.  Barbara emailed in about a COTS like program for HSF.  Trent called from Australia to inquire about Stratolaunch.  Doug called to ask about cislunar development and what a program that supported that development might look like.  Mike had much to say on this subject, don’t miss it.  We talked extensively about the role of government and the private sector, including government subsidies.  A listener talked about scientific discovery and serendipity.  John asked about the Ares 1 vibration and solids in comparison to liquids for safety.  John in Ft. Worth asked Mike about SLS and Orion as a capabilities holding program and Mike agreed.  The idea is to maintain capabilities until the time they can be used.  During the entire program, I asked Mike about his public service, how he dealt with attacks and criticism, and how he got his interest in space.  This is an important discussion. 

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AIAA Space 2013 Taped Interviews, Friday, 9-13-13 September 13, 2013

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AIAA Space 2013 Taped Interviews, Friday, 9-13-13

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Guests:  AIAA Space 2013 Taped Interviews. Topics:  Recorded interviews from AIAA Space 2013 including Dr. Doug Plata; NASA Press Conference;, Michelle Evans.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

Welcome to this 2 hour 14 minute set of three interviews recorded at AIAA Space 2013 in San Diego (except for the last interview).  Please note there were audio issues as there was background noise both at the San Diego Convention Center and the restaurant where I met Michelle Evans for her interview regarding her X-15 book.  The NASA Press Conference, while conducted in a private room, also consisted of a conference call through NASA with media reps not at the conference.  Some of the participants at the table and on the phone spoke with a very low voice.  The interviews follow one another with about five seconds of dead air space between each one.  When the interview with Michelle Evans ends, so does our recording.

We started with Dr. Doug Plata who presented two papers at an AIAA Technical Committee Meeting Monday night.  His two presentations covered space advocacy unification ideas and his Lunar Cots and Cislunar transportation ideas.  Doug reports interesting and sometimes challenging feedback from those listening to his presentations.  And it was not all supportive of his idea.

Next, we have the NASA Press Conference.  As part of the background to this press conference, the keynote at lunch was a panel moderated by NASA’s William (Bill) Gerstenmaier with four other NASA participants charged with leading different parts of the NASA Asteroid Redirect Mission.  At lunch, these individuals made a presentation, showed animation and video of the mission, charts and graphs, then took questions from the AIAA lunch audience.  The NASA participants got tough questions about SLS, mission dependency on SLS, the use of large quantities of Xenon, and even if the civil space program for human spaceflight would disappear if this mission failed for any reason given the dysfunction many see in NASA at this time.  I think you will find Bill’s response to my question about SLS issues and dependence on it for the mission to be interesting. I learned a few things about SLS and I suspect you will also learn a few things about this program.  Let us know your thoughts on both SLS and the asteroid redirect mission by posting on The Space Show blog.

The last interview was at a Fuddruckers Restaurant off I-5 as I was driving through Orange County on the way back to Hollywood.  I met Michelle Evans and Cherie for a different type of discussion about Michelle’s excellent book, “The X-15 Rocket Plane: Flying the First Wings into Space.”  Michelle was recently a guest on the program about her book.  We talked about those she interviewed for the book and their thoughts on today’s current space program.  I also asked if Michelle thought a program such as X-15 could be initiated today.  Michelle also told us about the global interest in the X-15 as she has heard from people in Nepal, Austria, and many other faraway places.

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Dr. Scott Pace, Sunday, 9-1-13 September 1, 2013

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Dr. Scott Pace, Sunday, 9-1-13

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Guest: Dr. Scott Pace.  Topics:  U.S. space policy, leadership, international participation, HSF, and the importance of it to our nation and future.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm

We welcomed back Dr. Scott Pace to the program to discuss our space policy, leadership, the prospects for human spaceflight (HSF), and international participation.  For more information on what Dr. Pace talked about today, see http://thediplomat.com/2013/03/28/american-space-strategy-choose-to-steer-not-drift and www.spacepolicyonline.com/news/logsdon-and-pace-criticize-lack-of-white-house-leadership-on-nasa.  Dr. Pace stated that our national space policy was adrift which we discussed in some detail during this 1 hour 38 minute program.  In the first segment, I asked Dr. Pace to explain why our space policy was and is adrift.  He referred back to the 2010 National U.S. National Space Policy which he largely supported but the human spaceflight portions of it were weak.  We mostly focused on human spaceflight for this Space Show program.  I asked him about the forthcoming NRC Human Spaceflight Study underway for which he had several comments but said policy does not typically come from external organizations.  We talked about weakness in space policy leadership both with the White House and Congress.  Dr. Pace said that he believed HSF to be meaningful to our nation and our future, and he put forth the rational for this throughout both segments of our discussion.  Listener Mike Listner called in to ask questions about the European Code of Conduct which is in an ongoing evaluation process among many countries.  Dr. Paced talked about the concerns and benefits of the Code & I asked if at least in the U.S. the policy makers were considerate of commercial or private space (NewSpace) interests.  He said they were, especially within the State Department.  We also talked about humans to Mars missions, lunar return missions and Cis-lunar development.  Doug called to express his concerns regarding lunar and Cis-lunar missions and at one point Dr. Pace talked about how frontier lines actually move so what may not be doable today may be doable in the near future. 

We started the second segment with a call from John Hunt who talked about the need to have a space transportation system before we can return to the Moon or go anywhere.   This took us into the world of heavy lift rockets, Dream Chaser & routine spaceflight.  We also talked about Falcon Heavy and SLS.  We switched over for ITAR updates which Dr. Pace provided for us.  Space as a political issue for upcoming elections was discussed as were the much talked about NASA asteroid missions.  Near the end, Dr. Pace was asked about the Chinese program & their plans to do an end of the year lunar robotic mission.  Dr. Pace had much to say about the Chinese space program.  Dr. Pace did provide a summary for us saying that there are still great opportunities in space despite the challenges.  He made an excellent case for American space leadership & why its so important for us all. 

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can reach Dr. Pace through his GWU website or through me.

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