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Amnon Govrin, Friday, 10-31-14 November 1, 2014

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Amnon Govrin, Friday, 10-31-14

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Guest:  Amnon Govrin.  Topics:  We discussed our guest’s op-ed, “Is Microsoft the NASA of Software Companies.”  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Amnon Govrin to the show to discuss his thoughtful op-ed, “Is Microsoft the NASA of Software Companies.”  You can read this op-ed at http://www.spacepirations.com/2014/10/is-microsoft-nasa-of-software-companies.html.  During the first segment of our 100 minute discussion, Amnon shared his background with us and what led him to write this article.  He listed attributes of both organizations that made them similar, plus he provided his own background as a space enthusiast as well as working in the software industry and in recent years for Microsoft.  To establish the groundwork for his article, he talked to the amazing things both organizations have done as well as the innovations they have brought to not just the industry but to humanity.  He was asked about differences with one being a private company and the other a government agency plus he addressed politics which he said were plentiful for both organizations though different.  He looked at historic big projects for both organizations & the innovation of such projects.  He suggested common traits including research and technology.  Amnon talked NewSpace, also he went back to the early days of our space program with rockets and hardware, then he did the same with some of the Microsoft early projects and products.  Another topic in this segment dealt with layoffs for both organizations, consolidations, and positioning their respective organizations for the future.  He said the verdict was out on the success in doing this for both organizations.  Our guest talked about and  identified what he referred to as Black Sheep, a section of his op-ed.  Black Sheep referred to products and projects that don’t make it for one reason or another.  He said both NASA and Microsoft had a history of many Black Sheep projects and products and he identified a few including Vista and Constellation.  Michael Listner called to talk about the denaturalized approach of both organizations.  Amnon and Michael has much to say about decentralization.  About this time, we started getting breaking news information regarding the Virgin SpaceShip2 accident. We continued to report breaking news on this story during the rest of our program.

In the second segment, in addition to the breaking news reports, we talked about both organizations becoming stale meaning irrelevant, heavy, and even wasteful.  Again, our guest cited many examples for both organizations.  More interruptions took place over the Virgin accident story and news, then we moved to the conclusion section of the last segment.  He talked about the difficulty for both organizations going into the future and what may impact the future of both Microsoft and NASA.  For NASA, he mentioned NewSpace.  Then we talked competition and for NASA, he mentioned the private sector launch industry as this competition may force changes in the way NASA does thing.  He questioned if innovation was in decline.  In the final minutes of the program, I asked our guest for his 5 year view for both Microsoft and NASA.  We also talked Astronauts for Hire as our guest was a co-founder of the organization.

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Patrick Ritchie, Monday, 3-31-14 April 1, 2014

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Patrick Ritchie, Monday, 3-31-14

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Guest: Patrick Ritchie.  Subject:  South by Southwest event in Austin, TX and the space & science event components.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Patrick Ritchie to the program to discuss the space and tech components of the South by Southwest (SXSW) event held each March in Austin, TX.  During the first segment of our 90 minute program, Patrick introduced us to South by Southwest, the Interactive segment which is what space and tech are part of plus the larger event component, music.  As you will hear, the music side of  SXSW is by far larger with upwards of more than 150,000 attending while around 30,000 attend Interactive.  Patrick discussed some of the Interactive and specific space keynotes plus some of the space tracks at the event.  Patrick sent me several links to the space and tech Interactive components, including the Snowden keynote.  You can get more on this content by using these URLs:  Google Lunar X-Prize Panel:  http://schedule.sxsw.com/2014/events/event_IAP24530; Kerbal Space Program
http://schedule.sxsw.com/2014/events/event_OE03288;  Planetary protection
http://schedule.sxsw.com/2014/events/event_IAP22997; Live with the ISS
http://schedule.sxsw.com/2014/events/event_IAP25456; James Webb & Kepler
http://schedule.sxsw.com/2014/events/event_IAP17180; User experience @ NASA
http://schedule.sxsw.com/2014/events/event_IAP18449; & Snowden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIhS9aB-qgU.  Patrick addressed SXSW networking opportunities, gaming with specific attention on Kerbal Space.

In the second segment, we talked about Austin’s similarities to Silicon Valley, venture capital, innovation and the Austin culture, the University of Texas role in these areas, and the overall space awareness level of the Austin technology area plus the general population.  Listeners asked our guest about the Brownsville SpaceX spaceport proposal as well as their rocket testing site and the Blue Origins Texas location.  Tony called in regarding the talk by Elon Musk.  Patrick even got a question about the new Texas football coach!  More was said about the gaming part of the event and the Kerbal Space game.  We then talked about the Las Vegas SXSW V2V for start-ups and innovative businesses.  As the program was ending, Patrick fielded questions about Canadians and the Canadian Space Program.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  You can contact Patrick Ritchie through me.

Dr. Pat Hynes, Sunday, 9-29-13 September 30, 2013

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Dr. Pat Hynes, Sunday, 9-29-13

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Guest:  Dr. Patricia (Pat) Hynes.  Topics:  International Symposium for Personal and Commercial Spaceflight (ISPCS) in Las Cruces, NM, Oct. 16-17, 2013.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Dr. Pat Hynes back to the program to discuss this year’s ISPCS.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 58 minute program, Dr. Hynes introduced us to this year’s symposium which is in Las Cruces from Oct. 16-17.  For detailed symposium information, registration, and more, please visit http://www.ispcs.com.  Pat started by telling us about attending a Virgin Galactic event in Mojave last week, including aspects of space medicine applicable to Virgin and human spaceflight.  Next, Doug called on his way back from Vandenberg and he told us about seeing the Falcon 9 launch and his impressions, then he asked Pat about the suborbitals ramping up for orbital spaceflight and if that was in their plans.  Pat said yes, talked about Point to Point Travel, some of the challenges, and orbital HSF in general.  I also added some information to the discussion.  During the balance of the first segment, Pat went through the first day of panels at the symposium offering highlights and insights not listed on the website.  Later, she talked about speaker John Gertner and his book, “The Idea Factory,” which addresses Bell Labs and innovation.  Pat referred to this book, Bell Labs and Innovation several more times during our discussion.

In the second segment, we picked up with the Wednesday afternoon program featuring Sandy Magnus, Executive Director, AIAA.  The importance of Innovation remained a key thread in our discussion and it is a major theme of the symposium.  During the balance of the second segment, Pat guided us through the agenda, again providing us with insights not listed on the website.  We also talked about the social and networking aspects of the conference which are outstanding!  IP was also discussed and the subject, including patents, is part of the symposium agenda.  We also talked a lot about NASA Flight Opportunities.  Near the end of our discussion, Pat talked about the tour of Spaceport America for Friday, Oct. 18.

Please post your comments and questions on The Space Show blog URL above.  You can contact Pat’s office for more information by calling (575) 646-6414.

Rocky Mtn. College Astronaut Panel 2, Friday Afternoon, 3-22-13 March 30, 2013

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Rocky Mtn. College Astronaut Panel 2, Friday Afternoon, 3-22-13

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Guests:  Astronaut Panel 2: Dr. John Jurist, Dr. Harrison Schmitt, Walter Cunningham, Dr. Loren Acton.  Topics:  Astronaut Panel 2 focused on spaceflight issues, policy, and in asking our panel members to share their space experiences with everyone.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.   Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.  The Copyright for this program belongs to Dr. John Jurist and Rocky Mountain College.  The Space Show has permission from the copyright holders to archive both video and audio formats on Space Show websites, video channels, blogs, and podcasting sites.  In addition to the audio format on The Space Show, blog, and podcasting websites, you can instead view the panel video at https://vimeo.com/62994324 which is on our Vimeo private Space Show channel.

We welcomed our panel members and the live Rocky Mountain College student, professor, and community audience to our afternoon 1 hour 34 minute panel in which we focused on human spaceflight, the Saturn V, the Saturn 1B, and the Space Shuttle, along with space science, risk taking, and what each panel member thought was most valuable for scientific reasons in the solar system.  We took many audience questions on a wide ranging group of topics including why spend money on space, especially in this difficult economy, solar cells, Boy Scouts and space, and what it was like to walk on the Moon.

Please post your comments and questions on The Space Show blog.  If you want to email any of our panel members, you can do so through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Mark Bray, Monday, 12-17-12 December 18, 2012

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Mark Bray, Monday, 12-17-12

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Guest:  Mark Bray.  Topics:  Commercial space market development.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. We welcomed back Mark Bray to discuss the development of a commercial space market, the applications of Geoffrey Moore’s “Crossing The Chasm” theories, space policy and the challenges of transitioning the aerospace industry to a full commercial space industry.  Our first segment began with Mark explaining how he sees commercial space development in the context of the Geoffrey Moore book, “Crossing The Chasm.”  The main idea expressed in the book and by our guest focuses on businesses that are able to leap from the very early adopter period of a product to the broader based product acceptance in the consumer markets. Mark’s quick summary suggested we were not yet there with our developing commercial space industry. He talked about the existing commercial space segment, the idea that we cater to our own community rather than finding a need in the broader consumer markets, then supplying that need through commercial space development.  Until that happens, commercial space remain hindered. He also suggested that that space tourism would not be the business that crosses the chasm as he did not see it as being sustainable.  We talked about the ISS and its potential uses, NASA science missions, and the need to transition to an actual commercial industry which he does not believe exists today.  His focus during this discussion was market driven saying the lack of sustainable broad based commercial space market today is a problem. As the segment was ending, Doug emailed in to inquire about Dragon Lab and the possibility of NASA taking on more characteristics of the old NACA were in line with his perspective commercial space, markets, and broadening the consumer user base.  Mark had interesting comments about both and as we were going to break, suggested that the issues he was talking about dealt with how we get from where we are today to where we need to be to have a viable commercial space industry.

In our second segment, Todd emailed in questions about the impact of the U.S. and global economy on commercial space development.  Later, Mark was asked what it would take to have a profitable commercial space industry.  We talked about government subsidies in space, the Falcon 9, SpaceX, and ULA with the Atlas and Delta vehicles.  Mark then addressed the issue of needing to know the real costs involved for a product or a launch vehicle saying there should be at least 5-7 successful missions before the costs can be classified as known and understood.  Mark also addressed the difficulty with human spaceflight (HSF) and commercial space, then moved on to the boom in the cubesat sector which might actually end up being a product that does cross the chasm. Michael commented about mission insurance and Mark suggested that because of liability and insurance issues, we would not have a totally pure commercial space industry.  A listener asked him about the NewSpace industry and Mark talked about this in the context of NASA and industry innovation and early adopters.  Near the end of the program, Mark assessed the suborbital industry which is commercial but questioned the sustainability of the suborbital tourist market.  As the program was ending, I asked Mark for a Huntsville space status report.  He said things were stabilizing and it appears that worst of the layoffs and setbacks are now a thing of the past.  Fiscal cliff worries exist but the situation was not getting worse. He said many were expecting new and larger projects within 2-4 years.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can email Mark Bray through me.

Ken Davidian, Friday, 5-4-12 May 5, 2012

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Ken Davidian, Friday, 5-4-12

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Guest:  Ken Davidian.   Topics:  Commercial Space, FAA AST, space industry development, theories, and markets.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed Ken Davidian back to The Space Show to discuss the FAA Center of Excellence Program, commercial space industrial development, markets, and theories.  We started our discussion with Ken’s overview regarding the Center of Excellence Program.  He talked about the participating schools and the four research areas and goal targets:  space traffic management; vehicle safety and operations; human factors and safety; and space transportation industrial development, markets, and theories.  We talked about the FAA budget and compared it in some ways to the NASA budget.  Ken also talked about the coordination between the FAA AST and NASA, along with the primary responsibilities of the FAA which are focused on the aviation sector much more so than space.

In the second segment, we switched focus to commercial space and here I suggest you visit the commercial space WIKI website, http://commercialspace.pbworks.com. Ken talked about material on the WIKI throughout this segment, especially the Commercial Space Market Model Papers and the Calendar of Commercial Space Conferences And Events.  Both of these links can be found at the top of the home page.  For the most part, Ken focused in on theory as compared to hard data detailing results from behavior, timing, policy, “bending metal,” and other elements associated with space industrial development. He mentioned many of the books he has read, the theorists, their work, and papers he has written and presented at conferences on the subjects we discussed.  The best way to follow along is visit the Commercial Space Markets page with the authors and papers listed, http://commercialspace.pbworks.com/w/page/30789604/Market%20Models%20-%20Papers%20and%20Reports.  Rather than describe the theory of the authors Ken discussed, this summary will focus on some key take away points from our conversation.  Hard data seems to rule rather than theory alone.  Data is based on real time feedback and solid information, even if assumptions are made from the data.  That said, we did learn that what is needed is a balanced approach that maximizes the best usage of both hard data and theory.  For a new industry such as space, this is harder to do than for an existing or a mature industry.  Also, the more that theory is relied upon over hard data, the more skepticism there will probably be in the discussion or planning subject.  As for policy making, actually accomplishing what is talked about goes a long way in the policy world, much more so than the rhetoric and theory not yet backed up by actual facts.  We also talked strategic planning and again, it is important to have a balance with hard data and theory, but in a developing industry such as space, the risk is that the data is just simply insufficient.  Ken cited several examples of this and talked about the various approaches to resolving and addressing conflicts within these areas.  Most of the authors, professors, and researchers mentioned in this segment are listed on the WIKI site so again, it is best to follow along with the discussion and read Ken’s presentation papers.  As the topic of space industrial development is of interest to me and many listeners, Ken and I talked about future Space Show programs/panels targeting how best to develop the emerging commercial space industry.

If you have comments/questions, please post them on the blog. You can email Ken at ken.davidian@faa.gov.

Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson, Tuesday, 3-6-12 March 6, 2012

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Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson, Tuesday, 3-6-12

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Guest:  Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson.  Subject:  Dr. Tyson talks space policy along with his new book, “Space Chronicles: Facing The Ultimate Frontier” and his article in the current edition of Foreign Affairs, , “The Case For Space: Why We Should Keep Reaching for the Stars.” You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson back to the show for a comprehensive hour long discussion on space policy, the NASA budget, investment in our future, the space race, and many more issues as pointed out in both his Foreign Affairs article and in his new book.  Remember, if you order his book using the following Amazon link, Amazon will make a contribution to The Space Show/One Giant Leap Foundation: www.amazon.com/Space-Chronicles-Facing-Ultimate-Frontier/dp/0393082105/ref=onegiantleap20.  You can read his Foreign Affairs article at www.scribd.com/doc/82592118/The-Case-for-Space.  During our hour with Neil, we discussed the NASA budget and why it should be increased.  Dr. Tyson also pointed out why humor was so important and what it really means as I asked him about the joking and kidding around regarding space when he visits programs such as The Daily Show.  Neil also made the case for more space activity and talked about spinoffs but additionally he talked about the economic growth that comes from innovation and inspiration, along with unplanned and fortunate discoveries. Here, he cited the Hubble Space Telescope and mammograms as an example.  He also suggested that with a space program that is innovative and doing what it should be doing, the STEM education problems are solved in the process.  We talked about NASA not being one of the key scientific government agencies anymore and he was upset that this was and is not being corrected.  Dr. Tyson had much to say about the role of the private sector in space development in that government typically puts down the infrastructure and opens the industry door with the privates coming after, expanding the industry, operating more efficiently, and developing markets.  A listener asked about planetary defense and asteroids, another listener inquired about space enthusiasts running for political office, and Jon suggested that giving NASA a bigger budget would just be a waste as NASA is all about pork.  Neil addressed all of these questions and more.  I urge listeners to read his book and if possible, read the Foreign Affairs article before you listen to the interview. During our discussion, Dr. Tyson said some very powerful things.  For example, note our discussion on the NASA budget as an investment, not an expense.  Neil described himself as an educator so listen to what he had to say about how to influence people and create change through education by teaching real science and facts so people can make truly informed choices.  Pay attention to what he said about a country that does not invest in its future and why space should be the future getting the investment benefit.  Throughout this interview, Neil powerfully reminded us all that even in tough economic times like today, NASA has been instrumental in shaping our national identity, inspiring us, driving our economy, driving careers in the STEM disciplines, and bringing us landmark, groundbreaking new technologies.  I personally believe that Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson makes a very good case for space.   Please post any comments/questions you might have for Dr. Tyson on The Space Show blog URL above.

 

 

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