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Michael Listner, Tuesday, 11-27-12 November 28, 2012

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Michael Listner, Tuesday, 11-27-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1902-BWB-2012-11-27.mp3

Guest:  Michael Listner.  Topics:  Space law & policy review for 2012.  Please direct all comments & questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments & questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright & are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. We welcomed Michael Listner back to the show to do our first ever annual review of space law issues. Michael had several topics to discuss including the Code of  Contact, Transparency & Confidence-Building Measures (TCBMs), Cube sat regulation, ITAR, Planetary resources & space property rights, Space debris with an emphasis on EnviSat, Austria’s space law in particular the launch of Austria’s first satellite in December, Commercial space in particular limited liability laws, Delineation of air space & outer space, the Moon Treaty & the ascension of Turkey & Saudi Arabia, Rules of Arbitration, & the preservation of Apollo landing sites.  We started with two main space law issues of 2012, the European Code of Conduct & TCBMs.  Michael did a good job explaining the history of these items, where are today with them & what is likely to happen with them in 2013.  We also talked about space taking on the role of being normal & we both pointed out ways in which it interacts with regular law even if consumers are behind a firewall & have no awareness of space law issues.  Our discussion turned toward benefit sharing & this took us into an extensive Moon Treaty discussion. I urge people not blow off what to many of us are radical departures from how we have been conducting space affairs & how we want to see commercial space evolve.  There are longer term potential risks given trends in benefit sharing, more countries signing on to the Moon Treaty, & even listener feedback I get right here on The Space Show.  Michael urged us to pay attention if other nations sign the Moon Treaty, particularly if Russia or China agree to it.  Michael talked about legal theories that can make the Moon Treaty enforceable given it is a legal treaty, even if the U.S. & others do not sign it.  Again, I urge our audience to not discount this potential longer term risk.
     In the second segment, Michael talked about the issue of just where space starts.  He mentioned two theories on this & why it is an important issue. The U.S. position tends to discount the debate & operates as if the 100km point is the edge of space.  It appears we abstain from the debate with the opinion it is a settled issue but evidently not in some circles as it is a hot button issue.  We also talked about the limited liability laws for suborbital space, especially in New Mexico which is having a problem accepting it in its legislature.  We mentioned the potential impact limited liability might have on Spaceport America so it deserves watching.  Michael talked about cubesat regulation & an upcoming European conference on that subject.  He said it is something we need to be carefully watching.  ITAR reform, especially in terms of getting satellites off the munitions list to the dual technology list was also a key issue for the year & will be next year.  We also talked about space debris issues & the impact of ESA’s EnviSat.  As our program was ending, I asked Michael for some future 2013 assessments of hot button issues.  Among those he mentioned included the Code, TCBMs, ITAR, possibly the Moon Treaty & Planetary Resources types of issues.  A listener asked about our withdrawal from the OST but Michael did not think that would mean much. Our last topic dealt with the historical preservation of the Apollo 11 & 17 landing sites.
    Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can email Michael at michael@spacelawsolutions.com.

Wayne White, Monday, 10-15-12 October 15, 2012

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Wayne White, Monday, 10-15-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1873-BWB-2012-10-15.mp3

Guest:  Wayne White.   Topics:  Space law, The Space Pioneer Act, property rights & commercial space development.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed Wayne White back to the program to discuss his proposal for The Space Pioneer Act (SPA).  His Power Point presentation on this Act has been uploaded to The Space Show blog.  Later in the program we talked about his new business venture, SpaceBooster, LLC.  Background on SpaceBooster has also been uploaded to The Space Show blog.  Mr. White started our discussion with an overview on his proposed SPA and the five United Nations treaties that generally control the behavior in space by all nations, including the issues of property rights, space salvage, and space mining.  Mr. White spent a considerable amount of time on this discussion, the Outer Space Treaty (OST) and the Moon Treaty.  Our guest then introduced us to the idea of “innovative financing” which is a type of tax being proposed in the U.N.  This prompted quite the discussion. Next, our guest took us to salvage law, the Law of the Sea Treaty, and the space asset registration lists with both the Air Force and the U.N. Transferring ownership title of space based assets was a major part of this part of the discussion, including reciprocity with similar laws that might eventually be enacted in other countries.  Atty. Michael called in and we had a mini-legal debate on these issues, the treaties, enforcement, and alternatives.  Wayne then introduced us to the Deep Sea Hard Mineral Resources Act as being relevant to parts of The Space Pioneers Act.

In our second segment, Wayne talked about the history of many of our laws consistent with what he proposes in his Act.  He said that 2012 was the 150th anniversary of the Homestead Act and he connected the benefits of the Homestead Act with what might happen in space with the SPA.  He also talked about the 1872 General Mining Act which then led him to talking about Article 2 of the OST.  Our guest was calling for the “use it or lose it” regime.  Space mining was discussed in this segment along with jurisdictional issues, both internationally and domestically.  Later in the segment, Wayne talked about his new business, SpaceBooster LLC.  You can find out more by visiting their website, www.spacebooster.com though Wayne did say the website is still under construction and being developed.  Near the end of the program, we talked about space tourism liability, informed consent, insurance, and the meaning of the term “spaceflight participant” as opposed to being a passenger.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can reach Wayne White, Atty, through The Space Pioneer Act presentation on our blog.

WWhite Space Pioneer Act SRR 6-5-12

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Dr. Erik Seedhouse, Sunday, 9-30-12 October 1, 2012

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Dr. Erik Seedhouse, Sunday, 9-30-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1862-BWB-2012-09-30.mp3

Guest:  Dr. Erik Seedhouse.  Topics: Ocean outposts, living underwater, and the oceans as an analog to space.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. Dr. Erik Seedhouse returned to discuss his book “Outpost: The Future of Humans Living Underwater.  If you buy the book from Amazon with this URL, Amazon will contribute to The Space Show: www.amazon.com/Ocean-Outpost-Underwater-Springer-Popular/dp/1441963561/ref=onegiantlea20. In our first segment, Dr. Seedhouse introduced us to the subject of living underwater.  We discussed some of the basics per the outline suggested by the contents in his book.  You can see the book’s contents at www.amazon.com/Ocean-Outpost-Underwater-Springer-Popular/dp/1441963561/ref=onegiantlea20#reader_1441963561. Follow along for the general topic discussion. He received questions about comparing living underwater to living in space or perhaps on the Moon or Mars.  I asked our guest about human factors issues such as those experienced in long duration spaceflight.  Dr. Seedhouse talked about bone necrosis with the saturation divers.  Other issues in this segment dealt with scuba as a pre-requisite for spaceflight training, the recent deep dive in a small submarine by James Cameron, and the amount of money spent on ocean habitat R&D compared to that being spent in space.
      In our second segment, we went into detail on many of the topics in his book including biochemical decompression, liquid breathing, vasculoid, and artificial gills.  We compared space suits to dive suits, specifically the ADS2000 hard suit.  Several listeners called in asking about time lines for operational ocean outposts and habitats as well as many of the advanced technologies Dr. Seedhouse was telling us about.  Near the end of the program, our guest went into more detail about budgets for developing the capacity to live underwater as compared to the NASA budget and what the private space sector is now doing.  Erik also compared the amount of press, media , & PR given to space matters as related to ocean matters.
     If you have comments/questions, please post them on The Space Show blog above.

Declan O’Donnell, Sunday, 7-22-12 July 22, 2012

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Declan O’Donnell, Sunday, 7-22-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1819-BWB-2012-07-22.mp3

Guest:  Declan O’Donnell.  Topics:  USIS updates, Law of the Sea Treaty, space settlement, property rights & more.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. Declan O’Donnell returned for legal updates with United Societies In Space (USIS), the Intentional Space Development Authority (ISDAC), Law of the Sea Treaty, property rights and much more.  Declan suggested the best websites to visit for more information would be http://space-law.org/ISDAC/ISDAC.html and www.internationalspacedevelopment.com.  During this segment, Declan talked about the various UN space treaties, including the Liability Treaty and space debris issues.  Next, I asked Declan about the renewed interest show by the U.S. in the ratification of the Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST).  Like many others, Declan clearly spelled out the problems with this treaty and the problems with the common heritage of mankind ideology, especially for space settlement and commerce.  He said if LOST is ratified by the Senate, it would be a “dangerous precedent.”  Declan spent time going into the history of LOST and we talked about it being bottled up in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee (www.foreign.senate.gov).  Related issues discussed in this segment and throughout the program dealt with problems in enforcing treaties of all kinds.  Declan talked about the role of USIS and ISDAC regarding LOST and the ownership of space property issues.  He even talked about these organizations proposing a new treaty to support growth & the commercial development of space. Andrew called in to talk about the 1920 Svalbard Treaty as a possible model for space. You can read about this treaty at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard_Treaty.

Our second segment started with Tim calling to ask if there were other organizations promoting LOST and/or The Moon Treaty other than the U.N.  Later, Declan was asked about the Chinese space program and we again referenced issues with the Liability Treaty and Chinese caused space debris issues.  Also in this segment, Declan was asked about the EU Code of Conduct for Outer Space Activities.  Note that he confirmed it was risky to dismiss such things because of the voluntary aspect & he cited several examples to illustrate his point.  He even talked about a specific Italian jurisdictional clause for a local region often inserted in contracts and used as a set of rules for litigation.  Harry emailed out guest about the spaceport no liability laws that have been adopted by several states.  Declan had much to say about this and the issue of liability. Interestingly, he said the waiver that we hear so much about and that is required in the federal law is more about protecting the U.S. Government given it has the ultimate liability for everything launched into space in the U.S. & possibly with U.S. hardware elsewhere in the world as the U.S. would be considered by treaty the launching state. Near the end of our program, I mentioned a SF Business Times article on space investment in Silicon Valley. I will upload the .pdf to the blog for those interested in reading it. Marshall also emailed in a question on the liability issue regarding a spacecraft landing in a different country from its launching country.  As the program was ending, Declan talked about USIS and ISDAC membership & given his being a trial lawyer, I asked him about the controversial issue in healthcare of tort reform.  You might be surprised by his answer.

Post your questions/comments on The Space Show blog.  You can email Declan through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com

 

You can read the SF Business Times article mentioned on the show here:

SF Biz Journal Space Ventures

Dr. Bryan Laubscher, Monday, 7-16-12 July 17, 2012

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Dr. Bryan Laubscher, Monday, 7-16-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1815-BWB-2012-07-16.mp3

Guest:  Dr. Bryan Laubscher.  Topics:  The Space Elevator and the upcoming annual elevator conference.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed back Dr. Bryan Laubscher for our annual space elevator update program.  Our first order of business was to discuss the upcoming Space Elevator 2012 conference.  Check it out at www.isec.org/sec.  Registration, hotel, programming, speaker, and session information is provided on the website.  Dr. Laubscher noted some differences this year including its location, the Seattle Museum of Flight.  Also, the Family Science Fest on the conference first day.  Bryan highlighted some of the sessions including those dealing with elevator operations and alternative launch options including Stratolauncher.  We fielded several email questions from listeners and then Michael called in to ask about security requirements for the elevator.  This turned out to be a most interesting discussion but one leaving us with lots of unanswered questions. In discussing elevator security, we talked about international law, the proposed Law of the Sea Treaty, offshore oil platforms, territorial water issues, DOD and department of Navy defense actions, and more.  Tony emailed in a series of questions including one that asked about the rotovavtor.  Later, I asked Bryan if elevator security should be a taxpayer responsibility and he said yes, noting that revenues from the elevator along with taxes paid would be in excess of security costs.  We then talked about the elevator being an international project or an American project.  Bryan preferred American but we talked about both sides of this issue.  Bryan also had lots to say about materials and the CNT ribbon.  He told us about the detangler and the size of the ribbon, plus the incremental plan in ribbon development.  We asked Bryan timeline questions and it was also said that the biggest problem other than materials waiting to be solved was the surface to LEO transportation.

In our second shorter segment, we talked about inspiration, the need to learn systems engineering, and the absence of congressional political support for the elevator.  A listener asked about the payload capacity which Bryan said was 20 tons.  He mentioned spinoff technology including energy storage.  Terry wanted to know how scalable the elevator concept was and Bryan mentioned progress with climber reusability issues. In our summary, he said the overall biggest challenge still remained the materials.

Post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog. If you want to contact Dr. Laubscher, send your email to me for forwarding.  For more info on the conference, use www.isec.org/sec/index.php/contact-us.

 

The John Batchelor Show “Hotel Mars,” Wednesday, 6-6-12 June 7, 2012

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The John Batchelor Show “Hotel Mars,” Wednesday, 6-6-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1790-BWB-2012-06-06.mp3

Guests:  John Batchelor, Dr. John Lewis, Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  Asteroid mining, Law of The Sea Treaty, asteroid resources.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog,http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. During our 11.5 minute discussion, Mr. Batchelor as Dr. Lewis about asteroid mining and just how realistic was it.  Dr. Lewis said we could be starting such ventures within 2-3 years with potential profits being realized about ten years later but that does not mean asteroid mining will actually happen in that time frame.  The issue of seabed mining came up and Dr. Lewis was asked if the Law Of The Sea Treaty was a successful model for space mining.  Dr. Lewis explained why in detail it was not a good model.  Mr. Batchelor then asked about the early days of exploration initiating inEurope and he asked Dr. Lewis if that type of model might evolve for mining the solar system.  Dr. Lewis had much to say about this issue and what it will mean for the industry depending on how issues are legally settled.  He also suggested that such issues would not be settled until a private company actually started an off Earth mining project.  Dr. Lewis made several important points during this short segment.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  If you want to email Dr. Lewis or Mr. Batchelor, please send your note to me and I will forward it on your behalf.

Dr. John Lewis, Monday, 5-28-12 May 29, 2012

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Dr. John Lewis, Monday, 5-28-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1783-BWB-2012-05-28.mp3

Guest:  Dr. John Lewis.  Topics:  Asteroid mining, Chinese space program.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed back Dr. John Lewis to discuss asteroid mining and the Chinese space program. You can order Mining The Sky: Untold Riches From The Asteroids, Comets, And Planets by Dr. Lewis as we talked about his book throughout our program.  If you use this Amazon URL, Amazon will make a donation To The Space Show/OGLF:  www.amazon.com/Mining-The-Sky-Asteroids-Planets/dp/0201328194/ref=onegiantlea20. Our first segment focused in on asteroid mining, where are today, its future, legal issues to be settled, risks, and more.  Near the end of this segment, we also talked about the Law of the Sea Treaty, the common heritage of mankind and revenue sharing ideas, all of which would be detrimental to asteroid mining and expanding space commerce.  Earlier Dr. Lewis referenced the Keck study, The Asteroid Retrieval Feasibility Study which says we can capture a certain size NEO and put it in orbit around the Moon. Dr. Lewis carefully went through the pros and cons of doing this.

In the second segment, Tim called in and continued the revenue sharing and common heritage discussion.  Dr. Lewis then cited his family history dating back to 1625 coming from theNetherlands with the West Indies Company, then staying here and moving west rather than returning to theNetherlands.  He drew parallels with this and potential space settlement and risk taking.  Next, we talked about the Chinese space program, their space station, the upcoming taikonaut launch in June and the fact that they are actually “bending metal” in making hardware for going to the Moon, unlike the Indian program which is still largely talk.  Near the end of the segment, we talked about lunar mining, the needed future vision and leadership, the need to be a multi-planet species and why.  Our discussion with Dr. Lewis is full of important information so I urge you to carefully listen to this program and use the internet to follow up on many of the topics and issues he brings to our attention.  For example, you might find it interesting to see the 1926 Plan of Space Exploration as developed by Tsiolkovsky (www.informatics.org/museum/tsiol.html).

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.

Dr. Scott Pace, Sunday, 5-27-12 May 28, 2012

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Dr. Scott Pace, Sunday, 5-27-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1782-BWB-2012-05-27.mp3

Guest:  Dr. Scott Pace.  Topics:  Space policy, COTS, HSF safety, commercial space & more.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed Dr. Scott Pace back to the program for a comprehensive discussion on a variety of topics impacting space policy, commercial space, and both our civil and entrepreneurial space communities.  We started our first segment with a summary of the AIAA-IAF Global Space Exploration Conference held last week inWashington,DC.  We talked about the international make-up of the conference, the focus on budget issues, commercial space, and some of the different issues of concern to Europe, Asia, and theU.S.  We also talked about the impact on the Europeans of theU.S. terminating certain space program partnerships as the Europeans do four year planning and budgeting unlike theU.S. which is year to year.  Our first caller was Michael Listner about the European Code of Conduct for Outer Space.  This was a comprehensive and important discussion on a subject that we are sure to hear more about over time.  TheU.S. may even sign on to it so I strongly suggest everyone pay attention to this issue & this discussion.  We mentioned recent public comments about the Law of the Sea Treaty and looked at the potential impact of the treaty on space development should theU.S. modify or adopt a version of the treaty.  Toward the end of the first segment, Jerry sent in a note asking about comments made to the Washington Post by our guest on the number of test flights that might be needed for the Falcon 9, plus the response from NASA Watch. Dr. Pace talked about HSF flight safety, rocket testing programs, and how today differs from the early days of our human spaceflight history.  Risk averseness was part of our conversation.

In our second segment, we talked about the rational for human spaceflight.  Dr. Pace offered a geopolitical rational for HSF rather than just a capability driven program and rational.  Here we talked about Asian countries emerging as space powers and participants along with what happens when we aim for Beyond LEO (BLEO) and the need to engage the new players.  You will hear Dr. Pace advocate a return to the Moon several times during our program as that is a way to engage new players, plus we need to learn certain skills all over again before going BLEO.  We switched topics & talked about increasing the NASA budget & treating NASA as an investment, not an expense.  Dr. Pace brought our focus to what do we get for what we spend.  Don’t miss this discussion.  We talked about commercial crew, down selecting as an option, and competition.  Dr. Pace put these issues into the form of a cost-benefit analysis project to be examined based on the goals of the desired or stated policy.  Again, don’t miss his analysis of these issues.  We also talked about the FAR and the SAA, insight, oversight, accountability, and higher costs coming from the FAR.  Property rights & land claims were brought up along with space settlement issues.  Listener Jim inquired about using the Dragon for BLEO missions.  Scott had much to say about this potential.  Toward the end, we talked about theU.S. budget deficit & what we spend on NASA, then I read a letter from two 5th grade students opposing space development & I asked Dr. Pace to provide us with his reply.  We concluded our discussion with Dr. Pace honing in on the need for leadership here and abroad, along with the need for a robust economy.

Please post your questions/comments on The Space Show blog.  If you want to email Dr. Pace, you can send your note to me & I will forward it to him.

The John Batchelor Show “Hotel Mars,” Wednesday, 5-16-12 May 17, 2012

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The John Batchelor Show “Hotel Mars,” Wednesday, 5-16-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1776-BWB-2012-05-16.mp3

Guest: Guillermo Sohnlein.  Topics:  The Sea-Space Initiative, synergies with the oceans and space.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. During our 11.5 minute segment, Guillermo Sohnlein joined us to talk about the first of several upcoming Sea-Space Initiative Workshops to help develop long-term strategic plans as well as near-term tactical projects that are synergistic between the oceans and space.  This first workshop takes place next week at the offices of Google, Inc. in Silicon Valley, California.  For more information, please visit http://seaspaceinitiative.org. Our guest talked about both inner and outer space, he mentioned several synergistic industries, we talked about NASA’s interest in the oceans plus a host of other issues.  John also asked about the Law of the Sea Treaty and the space treaties in terms of impact on sea and space future opportunities/obstacles.  I will be attending the workshop and in fact am chairing the communications panel discussion.  I will report on the workshop on our next open lines program.

If you want to email John Batchelor, you can do so through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com. Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.

Rand Simberg, Tuesday, 5-15-12 May 16, 2012

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Rand Simberg, Tuesday, 5-15-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1775-BWB-2012-05-15.mp3

Guest:  Rand Simberg.  Topics:  Space Frontier property rights and risk aversion.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed back Rand Simberg to discuss his research paper on space property rights, Homesteading the Final Frontier (http://cei.org/sites/default/files/Rand%20Simberg%20-%20Homesteading%20the%20Final%20Frontier.pdf).  In the second part of the program, we discussed his next project focusing on our being too risk averse.  Our property rights discussion addressed many areas including land claims, the Outer Space Treaty, the Moon Treaty, English Common Law, royalty payments, commercial space development & enhancement, government regulation, marketable space real estate, both the Antarctica & Arctic models,  & the Law of the Sea Treaty.  Issues about launch country liability/responsibility were discussed & several listeners commented to Rand on his ideas, both for & con.  I also strongly recommend you read his paper per the URL above as he does a good job of laying out his idea and why he believes it to be both viable and important.

In the last segment, we switched topics to his newest project dealing with risk aversion.  He said the working title of his new project would be “We Are Not Killing Enough People.”  When I questioned him about the wisdom of such an inflammatory title, he said it was meant to get attention.  Listen to the discussion and see what you think.  Rand & listeners cited many examples of what is believed to be excessive regulation that either already does or has the potential to limit our choices as to what we can and cannot do.  I also cited examples from my own life about choosing risky things to do without having to be concerned about government regulations at the time.  But Rand kept the topic focused on space as much as possible & put forth a strong case for individual choice as long as it does not impact third parties & he made a strong connection with choice to economic growth, development, & resource expansion/utilization.  He also talked about the need to be free to fail and that frontiers have never been settled throughout history without the loss of life.  Near the end of the program, one listener said to Rand that “life without risk is a fantasy.”  Our congress was a big part of the focus of the discussion & here, Rand suggested that since most in Congress don’t care that much about space & most people don’t either, that when we write to our representatives, our letters have more impact than usual because they so seldom here from space supporters other than those in the industry lobbying for this or that policy.  Rand received lots of agreement on his risk conclusions & his idea that more people need to die to develop the frontier, but he also got strong opposition to his ideas.  Bill was one who opposed Rand’s ideas from a marketing & adverse publicity perspective.  Jim suggested that Rand & others needed to convince the public & Congress that space was a frontier and that it was actually worth dying for in settling/taming it.  For the most part, there was strong support for being less risk averse & for settling & economically developing the space frontier.  When Rand’s new project is published, I will be sure to call your attention to it so you can read & evaluate it for yourself.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog above.  Rand can be contacted through his own blog, Transterrestrial Musings at www.transterrestrial.com.  You can also comment on his Space Show appearance on his blog in addition to our blog.

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