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The John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 10-15-14 October 16, 2014

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The John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 10-15-14

Featuring Dr. Oliver de Weck, Sydney Do, Koki Ho,  Andrew Owens 

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John Batchelor and I welcome Dr. Oliver de Weck, Sydney Do, Koki Ho, & Andrew Owens to Hotel Mars for our regarding their paper and analysis, “An Independent Assessment Of The Technical Feasibility Of The Mars One Mission Plan.” You can download their 35 page report at  http://web.mit.edu/sydneydo/Public/Mars%20One%20Feasibility%20Analysis%20IAC14.pdf.  We welcomed the MIT authors of the paper “An Independent Assessment Of The Technical Feasibility Of The Mars One Mission Plan.”  John recorded four segments for an hour broadcast on The John Batchelor Show which is why you will hear the archived version divided into four segment with their own introduction.  In addition, we used a conference calling system to bring all but one of the authors on the program so you will hear a tone difference in this show and perhaps a soft echo type sound.  We apologize for any inconvenience this might cause you.

 

We started our 40 minute program by John asking Dr. de Weck for the origin of this paper.  Dr. de Weck took us back to beginning in 2004 providing us with an interesting leading up to the present time.  Given the number of guests on the program, John and I directed our questions to each person by name.  Some of the issues we talked about were life support for being on Mars and other issues referenced in their report & analysis “An Independent Assessment Of The Technical Feasibility Of The Mars One Mission Plan.” We also discussed the Mars One plan to grow food and the possible O2 poisoning resulting from that effort.  Since Mars One said that all the technologies were here now and on the ISS, the authors used the ISS as a source.  They discovered that many of the needed life support technologies are not available or tested for space let alone the Martian environment even if used here on Earth.  Our guests took us through many of the assumptions of the Mars One Mission as taken from their own statements and website.  The authors concluded that most if not all the technologies needed for humans to survive on Mars per their mission plan were today at a very low TRL or Technology Readiness Level.  Other issues that we talked about focused on the need for spare parts with this need rapidly growing to a point beyond Mars One capabilities.  3D printing was discussed as a replacement for spare parts  as was ISRU, the possible need for a rescue mission, Martian gravity & artificial gravity, Falcon Heavy launches and Dragon’s lined up on the Martian surface for the habitat plus other parts of the Mission Plan.

 

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Dr. Kim Binsted, Simon Engler-HI-SEAS-Monday, 9-8-14 September 9, 2014

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Dr. Kim Binsted, Simon Engler-HI-SEAS-Monday, 9-8-14

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Guests:  Dr. Kim Binsted, Simon Engler.  Topics:  We discussed the Hawaiian Space Exploration Analog and Simulation (HI-SEAS) project.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Kim Binsted and Simon Engler to the show to discuss the Hawaiian Space Exploration Analog and Simulation (HI-SEAS) project.  During the first segment of our 90 minute show, Dr. Binsted and Simon introduced us to the HI-SEAS project, described its ideal location in Hawaii, and the physical site itself.  Simon was on the first mission which was a four month simulation.  He described the simulation, his experiences and perspectives throughout our discussion.  Kim also described her FMARS at Devon Island experiences in this segment.  We learned that for the HI-SEAS projects, the first focus was on food and the food system which they explained in detail.   Crew dynamics were discussed  plus our guests took us through the crew screening process.  Also talked about were crew issues, conflict resolution and crew leadership.   I asked about the relevance of analog research to a real Mars mission then our guests brought up the need to retire risks, especially team risks.  Mars One came up as did a listener question asking if the Mars simulation was applicable to the Moon.  Another listener asked how talking about HI-SEAS and Mars simulation went over with the non-space community and did they think humans to Mars was important.  Hawaii as a space state was discussed along with issues based on possible conflicts with sacred Hawaiian culture.   More questions came in about the food used for the simulations, the crew cooking, and resupply.

In the second segment, we talked about opportunistic research plus comparisons of HI-SEAS to Biosphere.  I inquired about their using submarines as models which they did in their basic habitat research plus Kim shared with us a prison story as a prison can also be a model for habitat simulations.  Judy asked a question about spiritual life and connections while on the habitat and the simulation.  Note how our guests responded to this question.  We talked about the crew EVA missions, spacesuits, and possible gender differences on the missions.  Doug sent in a note about crew cohesion, the possibility of a single gender crew, and issues of flirting, jealousy, etc.  Don’t miss both Kim’s and Simon’s discussion on this subject.  Simon did say he thought the relationships were like brother-sister on his simulation.  Crew medical concerns and issues came up as did the habitat systems and the crew developing their own strategies and protocols for dealing with issues.  Todd inquired about an exercise routine similar to what might be done on a Mars mission, then Doug emailed again about life support issues & recycling for the simulation.

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Chris Carberry, Joe Cassady, Sunday, 8-17-14 August 18, 2014

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Chris Carberry, Joe Cassady, Sunday, 8-17-14

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Guests:  Chris Carberry, Joe Cassady.  Topics:  ExploreMars.org and projects ExoLance & Time Capsule, Mars life detection experiments.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Chris Carberry, Executive Director of ExploreMars.org and for the first time Joe Cassady to discuss current and new ExploreMars.org projects including the ExoLance Mission and the Time Capsule.  During the first segment of this 90 minute program, Chris provided us with a brief overview of ExploreMars.org, then he got into the specifics of their new project, ExoLance.  For more information about it and the crowd funding financial program, see http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/exolance.  Both Chris and Joe spent most of this segment with the details of this mission which will flyto Mars on an existing NASA or ESA Mars mission in the 2020s, dropping up to six tungsten penetrators loaded with life detection experiments to penetrate the Martian surface by up to 1-3 meters.  Our guests answered many emails as well as phone questions including specifics about the penetrators, the locations they would search, the tungsten penetrators serving as ballast on the main spaceflight missions, the impact velocity, and much more.  Chris and Joe several times referenced the work of Dr. Gil Levin for his labeled release (LR) experiments on the Viking missions, plus the work of Dr. Chris McKay at NASA Ames.  Both are key to designing the mission and scientific instrumentation for the penetrators.  I hope you find this detailed discussion as interesting as I found it.

In the second segment, we talked about other ExploreMars.org projects including the student led Time Capsule.  For more information, visit http://www.timecapsuletomars.com.  According to the website, the Time Capsule project sends to Mars digital messages from tens of millions of people from all corners of Earth in the form of text, images, audio and video clips.  This will Enable tens of millions of people from every country on Earth to upload their pictures, short movies, text messages and other digital media to the time capsule for about $1.00 for 10 mb.  Joe and Chris described the project, the student leaders behind it, and they invited all to participate.  Later in the segment, our guests talked about the next Humans2Mars conference scheduled for early May 2015.  They also talked some about this year’s conference and the many people that attended it plus the thousands of others around the world who saw it via streaming.  As you will hear, more than a thousand schools worldwide logged in to see the speakers as well.  Clearly, going to Mars gets people’s attention around the world like nothing else in the space field.  We got an email about possible ITAR issues with the crowd funding program and I asked our guests for Plan B if life was not discovered by the penetrators.  You might find their response to this question interesting, perhaps even entertaining.  Several listeners suggested some more advanced technology for the penetrators but the guys want to keep the first round very simple and affordable.  Based on the success of the first round of penetrators, they might evolve for future experiments.

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Rand Simberg, Monday, 6-9-14 June 10, 2014

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Rand Simberg, Monday, 6-9-14

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Guest:  Rand Simberg.   Topics:  HSF safety, risk taking, our space dependency on Russia, and much more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Rand Simberg for a 1 hour 36 minute discussion regarding our HSF dependency on Russia, risk taking space safety, and more.  In our first segment, Rand talked about his book, “Safe Is Not An Option” (see http://www.safeisnotanoption.com), as well as his pointing out that what he said in his book about our growing dependence on Russia for our HSF is coming to pass.  This led to a discussing of the Sen. Shelby language in the proposed NASA funding appropriations bill to account for fixed costs in a similar way such costs are accounted for in the FAR.  Rand summarized his HSF safety comments by repeating one of his better known statements that many of us agree with, that is HSF is not important!  He discussed his meaning of this statement throughout today’s program.  Rand talked about HSF being worth the risk, 16 years of ISS and only now starting to do useful things, one of which he identified as an important drug project for curing MSRA.  This discussion prompted several listener emails including one from Jim asking if we were seeing the end of NASA/government HSF?  Tony asked Rand what he would favor were he the supreme space dictator of the country.  Rand suggested returning to the old NACA model.  Later, he said HSF is not a mature industry and compared to the 1920s airplane design as that is where spaceflight design is today.  He had much to say about safety as a priority and safety regulations.

In the second segment, Ben asked him about SpaceX being qualified for AF spy satellite launches.  I asked Rand about the Dragon V2 as he was present at the unveiling.  He went inside the capsule and shared his perspectives with us.  Space settlement came up and Rand received many email questions referring to it.  He was asked about SpaceX fast tracking Dragon V2 depending on what happens with the Russians.  We talked about influencing congress and Rand suggested writing to members of congress as the count is totaled by the members.  Given the overall low numbers for the space advocacy community, getting letters to congress is important.  Near the end of the segment, he was asked about Inspiration Mars and Mars One, he talked about the serious need for a gravity lab to determine the minimal gravity prescription.  Before our discussion ended, we talked about the NRC Pathways study on HSF and Mars.

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John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 3-26-14 March 27, 2014

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John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 3-26-14

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Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. Alan Stern, Dr. David Livingston. Topics: New Horizons, Pluto, Uwingu, naming Martian craters. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce.  This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm). For those of you listening to archives on live365.com & rating the programs, please email me the reasons for your rating. This will definitely help improve Space Show programming. Thank you.

We welcomed Dr. Alan Stern to the program to discuss the New Horizons mission to Pluto. Dr. Stern talked to us about the instrument capability aboard New Horizons, dwarf planets, the Kuiper Belt and other Pluto-like planets. We also talked about Pluto’s moons. Our discussion then moved to Uwingu (www.uwingu.com) and the opportunity for anyone to name Martian craters. John told listeners how the website worked by moving the cursor over Mars to see available craters, their pricing, and location.

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Dan Freyer, Taber MacCallum, Wednesday, 3-25-14 March 26, 2014

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Dan Freyer, Taber MacCallum, Wednesday, 3-25-14

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Guests:  Dan Freyer, Tabor MacCallum.  Topics:  Space Tech Expo, World View Enterprises, HSF to Mars & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed both Dan Freyer and Tabor MacCallum to discuss the upcoming Space Tech Expo to be held in Long Beach, CA from April 1-3, plus Tabor told us about World View near space balloon rides and their work on HSF missions to Mars.  There was only one segment for this one hour program.  We started with Dan who gave us an overview of the Space Tech Expo (www.spacetechexpo.com).  He talked about the free program, the paid program, the exhibits, and the B2B focus of the conference.  We went through the paid Expo agenda which you can find at http://www.spacetechexpo.com/conference/conference-program-2014.  Dan stressed the business 2 business focus of the expo, talked about the mix of aerospace, defense, military, satellite, launch vehicle companies and executives that will be attending. We also talked about the exhibitors and their ability to tell attendees about their products and services.  Taber jumped in to talk about the World View near space balloon rides which they will be talking about at their booth #4042.  Dan also went over the conference logistics and fielded several questions asking about NewSpace representation at the expo, the possibility for students & interviews, networking opportunities, lunches with the paid program, plus more.  Later in the segment, Tabor received several email questions about his work on the life support systems for human spaceflight missions to Mars.  He talked about going to Mars, Inspiration Mars, Mars One and a stepping stone approach that might include going to an asteroid and the moons of Mars.  We discussed the possible need to first go to the Moon to learn how to go to Mars.  We talked about closed loop systems, radiation & microgravity issues, plus the complexity of landing large payloads on Mars. We concluded our hour discussion by reviewing the Expo logistics, registration on their website, and the strong business focus for this conference.

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Dr. Jeff Bell, Monday, 3-24-14 March 25, 2014

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Dr. Jeff Bell, Monday, 3-24-14

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Guest:  Dr. Jeff Bell.  Topics:  Dr. Bell discussed a broad range of space ventures including human spaceflight.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.   For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Dr. Jeff Bell & was at his best for blunt talk, specifically the need for a winning rational for human spaceflight (HSF).  For those of you new to Dr. Bell, hold on tight for a ride that will likely be upsetting.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 58 minute program, Dr. Bell started with saying he was pessimistic over the future of human spaceflight.  In fact, this was an overriding theme throughout the full discussion.  He said it was more than just not properly telling the story either by NASA or space advocates.  He said there was no winning rational for the need or the urgency of HSF.  While he was pessimistic on HSF, he was just the opposite on science, robotic, & unmanned missions which he said were doing well & in a class of their own.  He also talked about the success of satellites & that part of the commercial industry.  Listeners challenged him during the show.  He got several emails regarding space settlement which Jeff addressed in terms of his perspective on HSF.  He also nixed the idea of leaving Earth as a safety valve for when Earth might be destroyed by an incoming NEO.  This led Jeff to talk about planetary defense.  Tony called with an idea to keep a Martian settlement from freezing at night, a point Jeff talked about re Mars settlements.  A listener asked about radiation & magnetic fields.  Jeff said the atmosphere was more of a screen for Earth, again in a discussion about lunar & Martian settlements.  Jeff talked about Orion & SLS, various ideas for Mars missions & the NASA asteroid mission.  I asked Jeff what he was positive about & he replied the Russian space program & SpaceX with Elon.  He then spoke about some of the Russian programs he follows.  He was asked about space tourism & suborbital flights, then he spoke about SpaceShip2 problems, hybrid engine issues, Richard Branson & more.

In the second segment, he had more to say re SpaceShip2 & Branson.  Next, he was asked about space debris cleanup ideas being skeptical of them.  He was also skeptical of propellant depots.  He spoke about small boosters costing much more than using one large booster.  Pooley called in to support everything Jeff was talking about.  Dr. Bell was asked about Dream Chaser.  In general, Jeff was very critical of lifting bodies & their CG problems.  Listeners asked for his assessment of Inspiration Mars & Mars One which was not positive.  In his closing comments, he said HSF was probably mature & needed radical new technologies to make it cheaper & feasible.  I told him he should come back on the show, invite only callers & emails suggesting radically new & different technologies & he could assess the ideas.  Dr. Bell agreed to do that so watch the newsletter for this upcoming program.

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Robert Walker, Friday, 3-14-14 March 15, 2014

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Robert Walker, Friday, 3-14-14

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Guest:  Robert Walker.  Topics:  Artificial gravity, Earth gravity, life on Mars, and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Robert Walker from the UK to discuss artificial gravity with us given our recent Space Show programs on the subject.  There was an audio issue with this program so listen carefully so you don’t miss anything.  During the first segment of our 90 minute program, Robert went over some of the basics such as the Coriolis effect, the gravity gradient, tethers, centrifuges, the vestibular effect, and more.  He also went over linear acceleration, spin rates, Russian experiments, issues facing space tourists, and spinning a Dragon capsule.  Robert has written many articles on artificial gravity which can be found at www.science20.com/space.  One such article was discussed yesterday. See  www.science20.com/robert_inventor/blog/ingeious_idea_soyuz_crew_tether_spin_way_iss_artificial_gravity_almost_no_extra_fuel-131278.  Also, check out www.science20.com/print/131279; www.science20.com/print/131278 & www.science20.com/print/129424.

In our second segment, Robert talked about both Inspiration Mars and Mars One as it relates to spinning to create artificial gravity, the number of revolutions per minute, simulate programs, and his favorite, a 2-3 year precursor mission at Earth L2.  He wants the mission designed to be a comprehensive test bed for artificial gravity.  Later in the segment while discussing Mars, he suggested we orbit Mars and not land on the planet.  Listen to his reasoning for this type of human Mars mission.  For one thing, he said its much safer to be in orbit.  We then focused on the possibility of microbial life on Mars, we talked about the Viking Labeled Release experiments.  Robert was asked a question about the sleeping centrifuge (you sleep horizontal as one does on Earth).  Partial gravity was discussed as well.  Robert said many times that we must find out what is going on with Mars. He mentioned the Phoenix mission which Mars One is planning to copy to some degree with its robotic mission to Mars in 2018.

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Dr. Robert Zubrin, Thursday, 3-13-14 March 14, 2014

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Dr. Robert Zubrin, Thursday, 3-13-14

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Guest:  Dr. Robert (Bob) Zubrin.  Topics:  Everything Mars, Mars Society Arctic 365 and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Zubrin back to the show for this 90 minute discussion about everything Mars and the Mars Society.  Dr. Zubrin opened up by telling us about the Mars Artic 365 program (http://ma365.marssociety.org) and their fund raising efforts through Indiegogo and other programs (www.indiegogo.com/projects/ma365-a-one-year-mars-simulation-in-the-canadian-arctic).  Throughout the entire program, Dr. Zubrin received questions/comments about Arctic 365.  He was asked about telepresence and having the sim in a more populated place than the arctic.  Bob dismissed telepresence as not being nearly as effective as having humans work “on Mars” & he stressed the importance of simulating a real Mars working mission.  Bob went over the logistics and scheduling for this first crew for Arctic 365, plus remaining opportunities and ways for people to participate in the program as the crew selection process is closed.  We talked about the costs and crew skill sets, plus Mars Society fund raising efforts for this program.  Jack emailed about radiation on Mars and as before, Bob suggested it was not as big a risk as many claim.  He was also asked about teaming up with Mars One on Arctic 365 program.  Bob said he was open to doing things with Mars One and suggested Arctic 365 would be a perfect training program those who train the Mars One crews.  Later, Bob was asked about doing a completely private mission to Mars.  Bob used this as a spring board to describing the kind of policy & political leadership in government and NASA, both of which he said absent for now.  He even proposed some broad based financing suggestions.  Doug called wanting to know his thoughts on Phobos & Deimos.  Bob used this as an opportunity to support a flyby mission. He was not that supportive of visiting the Marian moons.  Don’t miss his explanation for his position.  As the segment was ending, I asked him about life on Mars.  Bob thinks there probably is life on Mars, don’t miss what he had to say about this.

In the second segment, Steve asked Bob about the Delta V needed for going to the Moon as compared to Mars.  He talked about the Moon being easier than Mars.  Again, don’t miss all of Bob’s response to Steve’s question/comment.  NASA and political leadership were more fully discussed in this segment, then he was asked about the SLS. Here, Bob had a lot to say. While critical of SLS, he would not cancel it.  Again, don’t miss his comments on this topic.  He talked about SpaceX & Falcon 9, heavy lift in general, crew size on a Mars mission, and finally possible threats from the Chinese space program.  Toward the end he talked about electric propulsion for slow cargo missions, then I asked him for his thoughts on the Mars cycler system.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog.  You can email Dr. Zubrin through me.

 

Open Lines, Tuesday, 3-4-14 March 5, 2014

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Open Lines, Tuesday, 3-4-14

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2198-BWB-2014-03-04.mp3

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Guest:  Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  Launch costs, spy satellites, launch reliability, & much more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.   For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

Welcome to our primary March Open Lines discussion.  During the first segment of this two hour program, we followed up from Monday with Tony talking about electric cars, SpaceX, Elon Musk, solar power, PGE electricity rates and more.  He also mentioned that Facebook bought out Titan Aerospace, a company that makes a solar airplane. Later in the program, Tony emailed the news that former Skylab astronaut & Korean War Vet William (Bill) Pogue passed away.  Bill was twice a guest on TSS & a friend. He will missed and we dedicated tonight’s program to his memory.  After the initial call with Tony, Jerry called from Florida to talk about the Ukraine & the space connection, the 2015 NASA budget, and possible Antares problems due to the Ukrainian connection.  Next, Dwayne called to talk about what it takes to launch sensitive and very expensive USAF spy satellites.  He talked about launch reliability as being more important than the launch costs. He associated this with the high costs of ULA launches and then we talked about what it would take for SpaceX to compete in that market.  It does appear that SpaceX is ready to compete per some of the articles that were sent me during the discussion.  Dwayne pointed out the series of Titan failures in the mid to late 90’s, & how this led to more oversight and quality control to make sure the satellites got to orbit.

In the second segment, Tim from N. California called and talked about computer power today making it possible to a SimNASA type venture to refine the NASA budget process, even the overall government budget.  He mentioned a project decades ago, World Games by Buckminster Fuller but back then the computer power was not what is today.   Here we also talked about Big Data.  Dwayne called back, I asked him for news on the Chinese lunar rover and we talked about the Atlas Russian engine, the RD-180.  Dwayne attended hearings last week on Inspiration Mars and reported to us on those hearings.  Doug emailed in wanting to know the number of ULA engine flights as compared to SpaceX engine flights.

Please post comments/questions on TSS blog above.  You can reach any of the participants in tonight’s show through me.

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