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Dr. Joan Vernikos, Friday, 4-5-13 April 5, 2013

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Dr. Joan Vernikos, Friday, 4-5-13

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Guest:  Dr. Joan Vernikos.  Topics: Inspiration Mars flyby mission, human factors, counter measures, mitigation strategies.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed Dr. Joan Vernikos back to the program, this time to discuss the proposed Inspiration Mars flyby mission.  In the first half of our two hour program, Dr. Vernikos said it was a doable mission but that new ideas and solutions needed to be developed for the human factors.  When asked about the biggest problem, our guest said it would be the ability of the two person crew to get along and work together for the full mission.  This issue came up several more times during the program so you will hear more about it over the two hour discussion.  We took an early question from Dwayne about the overall air quality in the spacecraft and issues with bacteria and the air filtration.  Dr. Joan had much to say about this as it could be a problem depending on lots of factors including the ability to repair a damaged system during the mission.  Dr. Joan talked about life support and psychological issues along with the human factors.  Microgravity and radiation issues came up but again, there was a focus on the risk of destructive & irritating behavior with the crew members.  One of the recurrent themes was to look for alternative ways to develop tools and counter measures rather than doing much the same year after year which has been our history in developing human spaceflight protocols.  Dr. Rowe called in to strongly suggest that such a flyby mission should be delayed until 2032, putting forth his best arguments for the delay and why it should not be attempted in 2018.  Bill listed lots of medical events that could happen and which we cannot treat in space, all in support of delaying the flight until human spaceflight is better developed & we know more about it.

In the second segment, Doug called & talked about regulators possibly saying the crew was intentionally attempting to commit suicide. He talked about the medical code 5150 regarding intentional suicide. We also talked about possible regulatory issues around the issuance of a launch license.  Doug also talked about radiation, both within the Van Allen Belts and on the way to deep space.  Next, Dr. Dilip Sarkar from Norfolk called in to discuss alternative human factor countermeasures such as yoga.  Check our Dr. Sarkar’s website, https://sites.google.com/site/dilipsarkar/home.  The discussion of yoga for pre-flight training and to help with countermeasures was most interesting. Dr. Rowe called in several more times to challenge Dr. Joan and Dr. Sarkar on their yoga theories regarding spaceflight.  I believe you will find the discussions and calls very informative.  As the program was ending, Dr. Joan was again asked about the biggest challenge and she said it would be the human interaction with the crew. We also talked about the mental issue of withdrawal from Earth which will be pronounced on a Mars flight.

If you have comments/questions, post them on the blog.  You can email Dr. Joan through her website, www.joanvernikos.com.  I also recommend you sign up for her newsletter.

Dr. Claude Piantadosi, Monday, 3-18-13 March 19, 2013

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Dr. Claude Piantadosi, Monday, 3-18-13

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Guest:  Dr. Claude Piantadosi.  Topics”:  We discussed Dr. Piantodosi’s book, “Mankind Beyond Earth,” human spaceflight, Mars missions, radiation, microgravity.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed Dr. Claude Piantadosi to the program to discuss his new book, “Mankind Beyond Earth: The History, Science, and Future of Human Space Exploration.”  If you buy the book using this Amazon URL, www.amazon.com/Claude-A.-Piantadosi/e/B001IU0QRS/ref=onegiantlea20, Amazon will contribute to The Space Show/OGLF.  During our first segment of this two hour discussion, we compared the space environment to the undersea environment, and live support and environmental issues with a nuclear submarine as opposed to what we have available today for space flight.  Our guest talked about the advantages of human spaceflight (HSF) over robotic missions, plus the contributions to advancing technology, science & our understanding of our own environment derived from HSF.  Radiation & microgravity issues were mentioned and listeners started asking detailed questions pertaining HSF and Mars missions.  Much of this segment focused the two planned Mars missions and the human factors challenges.  In addition to a comprehensive analysis from the medical perspective, listeners also pointed out that Inspire Mars would likely have indirect if not direct public money supporting the mission.  Most were less supportive of the mission if it included public money, direct or indirect.  Dr. Piantadosi talked about radiation & microgravity unknowns and variables. He also talked about our current time line for meeting human factors & life support challenges over the near term which was not good.

In our second segment, we talked about affordable space & how to achieve it. Heavy lift and SLS came up as did fuel depots and reusability.  A listener asked about older people being more radiation resistant or tolerant. Long duration spaceflight mental issues came up and our guest talked about them in the context of crew selection and training.  Procreation in space was discussed as was the mass needed for water radiation shielding.  Our guest suggested that since the shuttle retirement, our space program had lost its focus.  He said there were no plans to get us the next level of information needed for travel beyond the Van Allen Belts.  He also talked about a lunar first program to learn and get the needed information to go to an asteroid or Mars, suggesting this might be a 15-20 year research program.  In the context of lengthy missions, our guest addressed sequestration and the need for international projects and financing. When asked if the recently announced private deep space missions had an edge over public mission, he did not think so.  Don’t miss what our guest said about this.  In closing, he urged us to engage in critical reading and critical thinking about problems.  Space is essential & we need to move forward with it using a good development & exploration plan.

Please post your comments/questions for Dr. Piantadosi on The Space Show blog above.  You can reach our guest through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 3-6-13 March 6, 2013

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John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 3-6-13

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Guests:  John Batchelor, Dr. Robert Zubrin, Dr. David Livingston:  Topics: Inspiration Mars, human spaceflight to Mars.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce.  This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com.

During our 11 minute plus discussion with Dr. Zubrin, we talked about the Inspiration Mars proposed human spaceflight mission and the previous Athena Project Bob proposed in the mid-1990′s.  Bob talked about the orbital dynamics, cosmic radiation, microgravity, possible NASA mission support, and more.  Bob also spoke about the availability of hardware for the Inspiration Mars mission but the need for a new thermal protection system.

Please post any comments/questions you might have on The Space Show blog.  You can contact any of  us through drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Heather Archuletta, Tuesday, 1-8-13 January 9, 2013

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Heather Archuletta, Tuesday, 1-8-13

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Guest: Heather Archuletta.  Topics:  NASA bed rest and simulation studies.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.  We welcomed Heather Archuletta to the program to discuss her first hand experiences with three NASA bed rest studies plus her recruitment work for new NASA study applicants.  Heather is known as the Pillow Astronaut.  Check out her website at www.pillownaut.com and her blog at http://pillownaut.blogspot.com. Our discussion was divided into two segments but this summary will not reflect segments since many of the same themes and topics overlapped the two segments. I believe this to be a very informative and a very entertaining Space Show program offering a comprehensive and insiders view of a subject we have not covered in any detail on any of our programs in our broadcasting history. We started out with Heather explaining the bed rest simulation studies, the different kinds of studies, and the basic qualifications to participate in a study.  We talked about studies ranging from 24 days to 100 days.  Heather was terrific about explaining the protocols to us, what each day was like, what the food was like, the ongoing medical testing, the helpers that did practically everything for the participants, plus the type of recreation they had given they all had to remain in their beds in the position required by the specific study.  We talked extensively about the recreation from reading to movies, to being able to get fresh air outdoors, to using computers, webcams, and phones.  Heather also explained the personal and privacy issues all the participants had to comply with and experience.  If you embarrass easy, these studies are likely not for you.  Diet was a big part of the study and our guest explained how tightly controlled the diet was and how it was made to order for each participant.  In response to questions about the application and process, we learned about the medical and psychological screening, bone scans, etc.  There was also outreach to family, friends, and significant others as there were strict rules about visiting and of course applicants did not need opposition by those in their lives.  The goal of these studies, as you will hear, was to work toward developing counter measures for the effects of microgravity on bones.  Physical intervention techniques such as exercise were tested as well as chemical mitigation techniques depending on the nature of any given study.  Several listeners asked why the participants chose to do this.  One listener asked how Heather talked with the general public to get them to see that spaceflight was worthwhile.  Don’t miss this discussion, it’s a good one.  Making a difference and helping to pave the way for long duration human spaceflight were important reasons given by the participants for enduring the study constraints and protocols.  Heather went over the basic medical and physical requirements for being a participant and she talked about her getting others interested in the studies given her own experience with three studies.  She uses social media for outreach and also various conferences and speaking engagements.  Heather also told us about the pictures on her blog, including pictures of her doing the studies in her bed.  Scroll down on her blog for more information and the pictures. Also, there are journals on the blog regarding the day to day activity in the study.  We learned that reading was a favorite activity as was working on laptops.  When Heather was asked about pets coming to visit them with family members when visiting was possible, we learned that some of the participants kept fish with them in their rooms but no dogs, cats, or birds.  Later in the discussion, she talked about the use of smart pills in some of the studies.  She mentioned the founder of the bed rest studies, Dr. Duane Graveline and she told us how the bed rest  and water immersion studies came about. Heather also said that the term “sleep study” was incorrect as the participants were not there to sleep!  We learned that when the study ended, there was about a two week rehab period for the person to be able to function again.  Sometimes the participants could not drive for up to three weeks after the study ended.  Listeners asked Heather how accurate the simulations were compared to what the astronauts experienced on the ISS and the space shuttle.  As you will hear, these studies appear to be excellent analog studies to actual spaceflight.

  One additional point and that is we talked about the Whitehouse.gov petition on nuclear propulsion. For those of you interested in this petition, you can get information about it at http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/08/16385852-nuclear-power-in-space-petition-asks-white-house-to-rekindle-project.

     Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can email Heather through me or through her website and blog.

Lt. Col. Paul Damphousse, NSS, Sunday, 1-6-13 January 7, 2013

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Lt. Col. Paul Damphousse, NSS, Sunday, 1-6-13

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Guest: Lt. Col. Paul Damphousse.  Topics:  National Space Society and the upcoming ISDC Conference. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.  We welcomed back to the program Lt. Col. Paul Damphousse, Executive Director for the National Space Society (NSS).  You can follow along with us by visiting the NSS website, www.nss.org and the ISDC website, http://isdc.nss.org/2013.  We started our discussion with Lt. Col. Damphousse providing us with a brief overview of NSS followed by a short summary of ISDC 2012 highlights leading into this year’s ISDC which will be in May in San Diego, CA.  In talking about this year’s ISDC, he mentioned special tours including the San Diego Air & Space Museum and the Mt. Palomar Observatory.  For dates, registration, hotel information, visit the ISDC website above.  We talked about NSS goals, objectives, and purposes.  This included a focus on space settlement, inspirational space programs, and STEM educational outreach.  Listeners asked Paul about the 2013 Legislative Blitz, the Space Exploration Alliance, the NSS Leadership Team, and becoming a Space Ambassador. Several times during our discussion, Paul suggested listeners with questions send them to NSS at nsshq@nss.org. Reference this Space Show program and you will be directed to the person or department that can best respond to your needs.  Another question for Paul asked about the space advocacy community being too diverse and ineffective.  Paul had much to say about this as did several listeners who commented on these two issues.

In the second part of the program, Doug called in to talk about the NSS Roadmap which is on their website. The Roadmap is just that, a set of pathways to developing and opening up space segments, industries, and niches.  I strongly suggest you check out the NSS Roadmap on their website.  Paul also told us about an upcoming NSS Kickstarter program to finance a short, inspirational movie on the benefits of both exploring and settling space.  Watch their website for announcements about the program going live.  Toward the end, Paul talked about ITAR reform, the renewal for one year of the launch indemnification for the commercial sector, and the Space Exploration Sustainability Act, all as examples of effective space advocacy organization work.  We then briefly talked about LEO no longer being a frontier and ready for commercial exploitation while BLEO was the frontier for NASA and its focus. Finally, during our discussion Paul mentioned how the Space Finance Group was helping NSS with the NSS Kickstarter campaign. You can find out more about this organization at   www.SpaceFinanceGroup.com.

Please post questions/comments on The Space Show blog above.  You can email Paul Damphousse through me or the NSS email address listed above.

Dr. Erik Seedhouse, Sunday, 10-21-12 October 22, 2012

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Dr. Erik Seedhouse, Sunday, 10-21-12

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Guest:  Dr. Erick Seedhouse.  Topics:  Astronauts4Hire.com, commercial astronaut corps, & “Astronauts For Hire: The Emergence of a Commercial Astronaut Corps.”  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work, but must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies.  We welcomed Dr. Erik Seedhouse back to the program to discuss his new book, “Astronauts For Hire: The Emergence of a Commercial Astronaut Corps.” You can order the book from the following link & when you do, Amazon makes a contribution to The Space Show/OGLF:  www.amazon.com/Astronauts-For-Hire-Commercial-Exploration/dp/146140519X/ref=onegiantlea20. While our program was in two segments, again, our topics crossed segments so this summary is written without regard to segments.  Dr. Seedhouse introduced us to the organization, Astronauts4Hire.org which is also their website.  On their home page, you can subscribe to their newsletter and news alerts for the organization as they strive to build a commercial astronaut corps. Erik told us how to join up, the difference with Flight Members and Associate Members, what the flight qualifications consist of, and how they envision their role in flying citizen science experiments on the upcoming suborbital flights.  While we did mention orbital flights, Erik said the difference was significant with suborbital and for now the focus was completely on suborbital.  As you will hear, the book is much broader than the organization as he goes into many of the human factors impacting HSF, both on the suborbital level and the orbital level.  His book addresses the leading companies in the industry, NASTAR training for suborbital astronauts, and forward looking potential commercial space businesses.  One of the issues that can negatively impact suborbital human flight is space sickness and Erik spoke about this in some detail.  He also talked centrifuge training and G-forces on launch as well as the reentry. Near the end of the program, we talked about suborbital vehicle safety, launch abort, and crew escape.
     If you have comments or questions, please post them on The Space Show blog above.  You can contact Dr. Seedhouse through me.

Dr. Scott Hubbard, Sunday, 9-2-12 September 3, 2012

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Dr. Scott Hubbard, Sunday, 9-2-12

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Guest:  Dr. Scott Hubbard.  Topics:  Our Mars mission projects from the perspective of our first NASA Mars Czar.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. Welcomed Dr. Scott Hubbard to the program to discuss his new book, “Exploring Mars: Chronicles From A Decade Of Discovery.”  If your buy the book using the following Amazon URL, Amazon will make a donation to The Space Show/OGLF:  www.amazon.com/Exploring-Mars-Chronicles-Decade-Discovery/dp/0816528969/ref=onegiantlea20.  In our first segment, Dr. Hubbard talked about being selected as the first Mars Program Director after we lost both the MarsClimate Orbiter (MCO) and the Mars Polar Lander (MPL).  He also told us the story of how he got dubbed the first Mars Czar.  His story is fascinating, from how he was asked to do this by then NASA Administrator Dan Goldin to what the Blue Ribbon Panels said about why we lost both MCO and MPL.  We talked at length about the lessons learned from these losses, the review panels, and from the Faster, Better, Cheaper program strategy.  Given Dr. Hubbard’s experience as the program director, I asked lots of questions about getting program approval and keeping that approval over time with Congress.  Dr. Hubbard was most insightful about this process.  Other related topics discussed in this segment included risk, planetary science budgets, private sector companies such as SpaceX, and mission oversight and its cost.  We talked about private missions to Mars and what is referred to as the Holy Grail for Mars missions, a sample return mission.  We went into some detail regarding the sample return mission and Dr. Hubbard let us know why it was so important as well as to outlining a three part strategy for doing a Mars sample return mission.  As our segment ended, we talked about internationalization of our Mars mission programs.
In our second segment, Dr. Jurist asked our guest for some comparisons with the robots versus humans to Mars missions.  You do not want to miss what Dr. Hubbard said in reply to this set of questions.  Doug called in to inquire about cost comparisons for more robots over one human mission.  Doug also raised some interesting points about the sample return mission planning.  I then asked our guest about advocate lobbying for Mars and space policy and if it was effective given his experience with Congress, staffers, and the legislative process.  The value proposition issue came up in this segment regarding both robotic and human missions.  A listener then asked about the focus on space settlement by several advocate organizations and many in the NewSpace community.  Don’t miss what Dr. Hubbard had to say about settlement as a goal, especially when compared to exploration as a NASA goal.  Toward the end, I asked about the follow the water theme throughout his book and why that was so important for the Mars missions to date.  As we learned, the next phase of Mars missions will likely focus on the fingerprints of life, following the signs that may lead to discovering organics or even more. As our discussion was ending, we did talk about finding life on Mars & educational outreach.
Please post your comments/questions on the blog.  If you want to email Dr. Hubbard, send your note to me for forwarding.

Bas Lansdorp of Mars One, Friday, 8-31-12 August 31, 2012

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Bas Lansdorp of Mars One, Friday, 8-31-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1845-BWB-2012-08-31.mp3

Guest:  Bas Lansdorp.  Topics:  The Mars One program from a business, financial, engineering, technical, & human factors perspective for Martian settlement.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed Bas Lansdorp, founder of Mars One to the program to tell us about the program and respond to a wide array of questions pertaining to the Mars One plan.  For more information, visit their website at www.mars-one.com.  Also, check out their FAQ at http://mars-one.com/en/faq-en. If you want to ask Bas & his team questions, use info@mars-one.com.  Dr. John Jurist joined us as co-host regarding many of the human factors, technical, and media financing discussion topics.  Since our topic addressed many of the same issues with crossover for both segments, I have summarized the program without regard to segments.  We started by asking Bas about the Curiosity landing per the European media and the interest in Holland which is his home.  It was clear that Curiosity fever was strong and exciting across the pond just as it was here.  I then asked Bas to tell us about Mars One.  For the next half hour, Bas talked with us about why he started Mars One, plus he went over in some detail the Mars One plan, including financing, technical, engineering, human factors, and research issues.  After our introduction to Mars One, Dr. Jurist and I began asking questions about the Mars One media financing plan, human factors, micro and partial gravity issues, life support issues, and more.  We covered a broad range of issues including launches, launch state liability, family settlement on Mars, children on Mars, pregnancy, before the launch medical procedures, astronaut selection, etc.  We received several listener emails which we discussed with Bas throughout our 90 minute discussion.  After our initial introduction to the Mars One program, our discussion revolved around Bas responding to our questions and those asked by our listeners.  Some other issues discussed included time line, mission delays, the loss of a resupply mission & its impact on the overall Mars One timeline, RX medications on Mars, solar power as compared to nuclear power for Mars One missions, Mars EDL plans for both cargo and humans, outsourcing components for Mars One and payload integration services & needs, plus settlement sustainability issues with possible timelines.

Please tell us what you think by posting comments and questions on The Space Show blog.  For specific questions for Bas or his team, use the Mars One email address but also do post on the blog for the benefit of all listeners.

Sir Martin Rees, Sunday, 6-17-12 June 18, 2012

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Sir Martin Rees, Sunday, 6-17-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1797-BWB-2012-06-17.mp3

Guest:  Sir Martin Rees.  Topics:  Science in our society, space development, political leadership, education & more.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed back Sir Martin Rees to discuss his new book, “From Here To Infinity: A Vision For The Future Of Science.” Please remember that if you order this book from Amazon using www.amazon.com/Here-Infinity-Vision-Future-Science/dp/0393063070/ref=onegiantlea20, Amazon will make a contribution to The Space Show/One Giant Leap Foundation.  Lord Rees started our discussion by talking about the amazing things we have learned about the cosmos in a very short period of time.  He also explained that this new book is based on a series of lectures he did with BBC Radio.  We also talked about science reporting in the media but we focused on teacher issues, both in the UK and the U.S.  Another topic covered in his book was religion and science conflicts. An example cited was creationism.  We also talked about space as a spiritual experience.  We then talked about commercial space development with companies such as SpaceX, the high risk averseness of NASA, and the fact that private companies can take on more risks.  Lord Rees expressed the view that for human spaceflight for sure, we will see more and more of it being done by the private sector. Our guest was asked about science on the ISS & he said it was hard to justify the ISS on the grounds of science.  Jack called in to ask talk about the outstanding history programs on the Royal Society website, http://royalsociety.org/Podcasts-of-Library-events.  He also mentioned famous sci-fi author Neal Stephenson, www.amazon.com/Quicksilver-The-Baroque-Cycle-Vol/dp/0380977427.  Jack’s call was followed by John in Atlanta who talked about spirituality, consciousness, religion and the work of Roger Penrose.  This led to an interesting discussion about the search for the unified theory and the difference in perspective with cosmology and fundamental physics.  Our next topic was in response to a note from Fred about political leadership and space/science issues.  Out last topic of the segment dealt with the Kepler Space Telescope (KST) and the search for extraterrestrial life.  We asked questions about the impact on cultures were life off Earth discovered.  Sir Martin had much to say about this subject.

In our second segment, we started out talking about science fiction.  Sir Martin is fascinated by the ideas in science fiction so don’t miss his comments on this subject.  Harold in Los Angeles asked if we might be slowing down in our rate of discovery of new science & space information.  This is another terrific discussion.  We then talked about the Earth’s population growth and the intellectual shift to Asia away from the west.  Lord Rees talked about the need to balance out science and development in the under developed regions, focusing on Africa for example  Later in the segment, we talked about bringing space resources back to Earth & our guest said the economics of doing this are still up in the air.  Space settlement and returning to the Moon came up as did private missions to Mars and the asteroids.  Our guest suggested that one way Mars missions might be possible in the future, but the probability of doing it near term & funding such a mission remains somewhat low at this time.  Our guest also mentioned genetic modification for those that do settle off Earth but thought the ethics of doing it on Earth would make it unlikely to happen here.

If you have comments/questions for Sir Martin Rees, please post them on The Space Show blog.

Gary Hudson, Tuesday, 5-29-12 May 30, 2012

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Gary Hudson, Tuesday, 5-29-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1784-BWB-2012-05-29.mp3

Guest:  Gary Hudson.  Topic:  Variable gravity research station as a free flyer near the ISS.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed back Gary Hudson, President of the Space Studies Institute, to discuss the Space Studies Institute variable gravity research station program known as G-Lab.  You can read about G-Lab at http://ssi.org/2012/04/ssi-update-april-2012-introduction-to-g-lab.  To find out more about The Space Studies Institute, please visit http://ssi.org.  In our first segment, Gary Hudson provided us with an overview of the data points we have on the effect of microgravity on the human body dating back from the beginning of the space age.  If the goal is the permanent human expansion and settlement in space, we have very few if any data points, yet we need this information if we are to expand beyond short trips to the ISS or another turnaround lunar mission.  In terms of artificial gravity, we don’t know what levels humans require other than we know we are designed for 1 G.  As Gary pointed out several times during our discussion, the permanent settlement in space implies families, child birth, and the things that we do here on Earth but we are lacking any meaningful and relevant information to make this possible  The G-Lab concept is to be able to do long term properly designed centrifuge research in free flying labs around the ISS, doing animal studies in lunar, possibly Martian, and Earth gravity. The experiments would be long term, properly designed by researchers with NASA as well as other institutions.  Financing the project would be in segments and phases and involve the private sector & the public sector.  Mr. Hudson described five phases with the first three phases being privately funded while the last two a combination of public/private funding.  The Falcon Heavy is a possible launch vehicle but so are other launchers.

In our second segment, we started off with a listener question about a Space Review article suggestion the Dragon be used for microgravity experiments in support of a human Mars Mission.  You can read the article by Tom Hill at www.thespacereview.com/article/2089/1.  Gary commented on this but remained focused on their project supporting permanent settlement in space, not just a trip to Mars.  This is an important distinction so do listen to how Gary explains this difference.  Other listeners asked Gary questions based on other Space Show programs/guests dealing with genetic modification and the need to work with gravity here on Earth as we age.  Listeners suggested simpler experiments.  One person suggested using insects but Gary made it clear that animals with a backbone were essential for these studies.  As the segment was drawing to a close, Gary mentioned a few of the challenges other than funding including power, life support, human crew needs, keeping the lab animals healthy, and being able to carry out all the needed experiments.  We talked about funding and Gary mentioned philanthropic naming opportunities for the centrifuge labs just as donors name buildings at hospitals and universities here on Earth.  If you have comments/questions for Gary Hudson, please post them on the Space Show blog.

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