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Golden Oldie: Elon Musk from 10-24-01 replayed Tuesday, 10-28-14 October 28, 2014

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Golden Oldie: Elon Musk from 10-24-01 replayed Tuesday, 10-28-14

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Guest:  Elon Musk from Oct. 24, 2001; Topic: Golden Oldie Archive Play regarding the Mars Oasis plan and Elon’s ideas for a multi-planet species by settling on Mars.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.   For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

This is a Golden Oldie program from Oct. 24, 2001.  At this time, The Space Show was known as Business Without Boundaries and was aired on a Phoenix radio station.  The formatting of the program was that of the radio station as they divided the 60 minute discussion into 5 short segments. All the commercial breaks and music from back then are included in this discussion.  Elon was the 16th guest on The Space Show (Business Without Boundaries).  In the first segment, we talked about the why of Elon’s interest in space and the need to be on a second planet.  Mr. Musk talked about the different reasons for wanting to go to space but for him it was to insure survival of our species by being a multi-planet species.  Elon then discussed his Mars Oasis Project which was time lined for 2005 as a private mission.  He wanted to rally American public opinion for the need for a human presence on Mars.  Our guest took us deeper into Mars Oasis with his greenhouse plans and some of the crops he thought would be suitable for the project.

In the second segment, Elon again said they were looking for a 2005 launch with a landing on Mars in 2006.  A listener asked him about using off the shelf technology and Bruce from Stanford wanted to know about Russian-US cooperation since the plan was to use a converted Russian SS18 ICBM for the launch vehicle.  Our guest also identified some of the equipment that would be part of the Mars Oasis payload.  John in St. Louis asked Elon if this was a commercial project with an expected ROI.  The answer was that it was a humanitarian project and no ROI was expected.

In the third segment, Elon was asked to estimate the costs for the project.  He said that NASAs cheaper missions were around $200-250 million and full cost missions were higher. In this segment he suggested the costs might be 10-15% of the lower NASA costs.  He was also planning two missions since it was possible for one to fail.

In the fourth segment, Elon was asked additional questions about the costs which he approximated at $20-$30 million.  Another question dealt with regulatory issues. Here, Elon did talk about ITAR but said at present there were no laws or regulations regarding a private mission to Mars.  Remember now, our discussion took place in 2001. Near the end of this short segment, questions about using the NASA DSN came up as Mars Oasis would need to communicate with Earth.  Elon suggested a design for his own communication network which he said might be commercialized down the road for other upcoming commercial space users.

In the fifth and final short segment, Elon summarized our discussion and said that he wanted to both change the world & create a world.  He also said we were closer to being able to go to Mars than JFK was when he said we would go to the Moon.

Post your comments on The Space Show blog but remember, this discussion aired Oct. 24, 2001.  9/11 had just happened.  We were preparing for war, our nation was very different then than it is today.  If you listen to later interviews with Elon, you will hear him discuss why Mars Oasis was tabled and why he thought it necessary to build his own rocket and rocket company.  You can find these archived programs using the GuestSearch tool on our website.  Search for his name.  You want the programs where he was the guest, not just talked about by others. Hats off to Elon Musk for his flexibility and for his work in making sure his vision eventually comes to life and reality.

Brian Altmeyer, Friday, 10-24-14 October 25, 2014

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Brian Altmeyer, Friday, 10-24-14

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2343-BWB-2014-10-24.mp3

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Guest:  Brian Altmeyer.  Topics:  We discussed the guest’s article posted on the Oct. 6, 2014 issues of The Space Review:  “The Strange Contagion Of a Dream.”  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Brian Altmeyer to the program to discuss his Oct. 6, 2014 Space Review article, “The Strange Contagion of a Dream: How Space Visionaries Hijack Governments to Change the World (see http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2611/1). During the first segment of our 1 hour 27 minute discussion, Mr. Altmeyer introduced us to the background behind writing this article, how he got the idea for it, plus he explained the overall impact space visionaries have had on him and his interest in space development.  Our guest took us back in time to the V2 program, Von Braun, and the politics of beating the Soviet Union to the Moon.  He made the case that both the Soviet Union’s and the US space program fed off each other in the form of competition to not only develop military space resources and ICBMs, plus our civil space programs as well.  I then asked our guest if he thought competition with China over their lunar and long range plans would result in a similar push for civil and commercial space.  His response was very interesting.  Ellen in Portland sent an email suggesting we did not have inspirational or effective leaders today like we had with Von Braun and others.  Brian disputed that and made reference to Elon Musk at SpaceX several times during our discussion.  Gerald Driggers called to talk about the impact of the International Geophysical Year on our early program.  Gerald worked in the early space program & had much to say about the main space personalities of the time along with the early rockets.  Our guest was asked about vision and Mars One, again he brought up SpaceX, and then he talked about exoplanets.  I asked him about the second to last paragraph in his paper regarding leadership issues and many waiting or expecting a new leader to come on the scene in a future election.  Don’t miss his comments on this issue.

In the second segment, Brian was asked about space budgets serving as a limiting factor & if SpaceX was carrying too much of the burden for our moving forward with space development.  Listeners asked him about sustainable space projects inspired & pushed by advocacy.  Do the projects continue or eventually die off?  Allison sent in a note asking our guest why we even needed HSF.  For his response, he cited reasons often provided by Elon Musk when he gets this question or one like it.  Near the end of the program, Ron emailed our guest to challenge his visionary outlook by asking if he had considered the reality of applying  human medical factors, engineering realities, orbital mechanics, & the known science for rockets & human spaceflight regarding the type of visionary statements made by Brian during the show.  This proved to be an interesting discussion as Brian said there were two ways to resolve such issues.  One way would be through testing and incremental progress to resolve or mitigate problems and the other way would be to just do the flight and sort of learn on the job, realizing there would be lots of casualties but at least we would be flying and learning.  I asked our guest if he was dismissing the known engineering &science including medical science.  He said he was not but clearly he preferred the second approach to problem solving. What do you think?

Please let us know by posting your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  You can reach our guest through me or the email address he provided at the end of his Space Review article.

Dr. Paul Spudis, Monday, 10-20-14 October 21, 2014

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Dr. Paul Spudis, Monday, 10-20-14

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2340-BWB-2014-10-20.mp3

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Guest:  Dr. Paul Spudis.  Topics:  A wide ranging discussion on current space topics including the Moon, ARM, Mars, and policy.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Paul Spudis back to the program for a wide ranging discussion on space topics plus we take a look at some of his recent blog posts.  You can follow his blog posts at www.spudislunarresources.com/blog and http://www.airspacemag.com/tag/once-and-future-moon/?no-cache&no-ist.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 52 minute program, Dr. Spudis talked about his blog article for a lunar tour, “A Lunar Road Trip” (www.spudislunarresources.com/blog/a-lunar-road-trip).  We talked with Paul about ways in which a future lunar tourist could actually move around on the Moon to see the places Paul described in his article.   The two methods discussed were hopping and using a vehicle on the order of the Lunar Winnebago concept.  The first listener question asked Dr. Spudis about the U.S. private sector doing lunar missions instead of the government.  He was also asked about the private lunar programs such as Golden Spike and others.  He spoke to some degree about the Google Lunar XPrize.  Paul also addressed the Chinese lunar program, then we talked about cislunar space and its economic development.  The ARM came up and Dr. Spudis called it a stunt.  He suggested it would be an Orion mission because there was no place to send Orion other than ARM.  He mentioned Inspiration Mars which he said was the ultimate stunt and ahead of its time.  In terms of changes in our space policy, he did not see any changes happening soon.  Next up was the NRC Pathways HSF Study which we have discussed on many Space Show program.  He said they asked and answered the wrong questions.  See what you think after hearing his comments.  Another topic that came up dealt with prizes.  He said they had not produced the desired outcome and cited evidence for it  saying prizes were overstated in terms of their impact on space development.  BJohn sent in several email questions including asking about Moon-Mars differences wondering why the Moon would be a good training place for HSF to Mars.  As the segment ended, we talked about water on the Moon and if it was now confirmed.

In the second segment, we honored James Charles Floyd on his 100th birthday for his role in the Canadian Avro Aero project and more.  BJohn asked about X37 B & then Dr. Spudis was asked about his blog post regarding recent government sponsored spaceflight studies and panels (“Quinquennial Follies” at http://www.spudislunarresources.com/blog/quinquennial-follies).  I asked Paul about space advocacy influence on policy and he told us an interesting story based on his experience regarding lunar space policy.  Don’t miss it.  Listeners asked about our technology readiness today for cislunar development and the building of a lunar outpost.  Our last email question came from Phil in New Brunswick asking about virtual space universities, teaching, and lectures.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  Dr. Spudis can be reached through his blogs or me.

Rod Pyle, Friday, 9-26-14 September 27, 2014

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Rod Pyle, Friday, 9-26-14

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Guest:  Rod Pyle.  Topic:  We discussed Rod’s latest book, “Curiosity: An Inside Look at the Mars Rover Mission and the People Who Made It Happen.” Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed author Rod Pyle back to the show to discuss his current book, “Curiosity: An Inside Look at the Mars Rover Mission and the People Who Made It Happen.”  Find out more about Rod and his books at his websites, http://www.rodpylebooks.net and http://www.rodpylemedia.com.  During the first segment of this 1 hour 27 minute program, Rod explained his long time interest in Mars and why he decided to write this excellent book.  I asked if NASA & JPL were cooperative with him in writing it and he said yes.  I asked him what impressed him the most about the Curiosity project and he said the Sky Crane to which he has devoted a full chapter in his book.  Rod then told us about the NASA Curiosity Mission Review Panel headed by Clive Neal at Notre Dame which suggested that mission management had enabled problems including getting a poor science return for the money and its lack of scientific focus and detail.  You can read about this review panel by visiting http://astronomyaggregator.com/exploration/nasa-panel-curiosity-planning-lacks-scientific-focus or simply Google Notre Dame Curiosity Mission Review Panel for additional panel commentary on Curiosity.  Listeners asked Rod about HSF to Mars and if after researching the mission, did he think the money spent on the project was worth it.  Rod provided some interesting budgetary comparisons and did say that he thought it was a good investment & program. He talked about the Curiosity mission goals, sedimentary rocks and Martian geology.  Future missions based on Curiosity were brought up, especially Mars 2020.  Another listener asked about using humans for Martian exploration instead of rovers.  He cited compelling financial facts between rovers and HSF which supported the use of Rovers, at least for now.  Another listener asked if he thought Curiosity was the best ever Mars mission.  His response might surprise you.  Prior to the break, he addressed a question about missions to the Martian moons.

In the second segment, Paula asked about ongoing mission operating costs and wanted to know if they were roughly equal for all the robotic missions.  Later, I asked if JPL had reviewed his manuscript. He said he sent it to them for fact checking but not content editing.  He also mentioned JPL reviewed it from an ITAR compliance perspective but did not “muzzle” anything.  A listener asked about the life expectancy of a rover team at JPL before moving on to another project or even leaving JPL.  Questions came in about SpaceX and its Mars plans, the both the SLS and F1 engine project came up for discussion.  Later, Rod said based on website hits, Pathfinder was probably the most popular of the Mars rover missions.  Another listener asked Rod to compare rovers from other nations to those built by JPL and NASA. As we were ending, he was asked about the Indian MOM mission and Maven.  His book “Curiosity” is packed with information such as we discussed plus much more in 32 chapters.  Remember, if you buy the book on Amazon, use the OGLF Amazon Portal so that Amazon will make a contribution to The Space Show. Instructions are on all website & blog archives plus both websites or just email me.

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NewSpace Conference 2014 Interviews, Friday, 8-1-14 August 1, 2014

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NewSpace Conference 2014 Interviews, Friday, 8-1-14

Featuring Dr. Alex Saltman of CSF & Congresswoman Donna Edwards

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2292-BWB-2014-08-01.mp3

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Guests:  Dr. Alexander Saltman; Congresswoman Donna Edwards.  Topics:  Two separate NewSpace interviews, first with Dr. Alex Saltman of CSF.  Next, Congresswoman Donna Edwards.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

The Space Show brings you two separate NewSpace Conference 2014 interviews.  The first interview is with Dr. Alexander Saltman, the Executive Director of the Commercial Spaceflight Federation.  Following Dr. Saltman is an interview with Congresswoman Donna Edwards of the 4th District of Maryland.  Unfortunately, the room audio with Congresswoman Edwards was bad and below Space Show audio standards.  We apologize for the poor audio.  In the first interview with Dr. Alex Saltman, we learned about the Commercial Spaceflight Federation (CSF).  For more information about it please visit http://www.commercialspaceflight.org.  Not only did Alex talk about CSF, how it lobbies for commercial space policy per its membership and a host of other space issues, he about congressional lobbying since he was on the staff of Adam Schiff who has JPL and Cal Tech in his district.  Alex provided us with good pointers on how to reach our congressional members or their staff, how to make the most of an appointment and the best ways to communicate with them about space policy.  We got a glimpse of congress from both the congressman’s perspective and the constituent in how best to reach their MOC.  Alex brings many of these skills to the CSF because CSF does for commercial space what many of us do in our advocacy except on a larger scale and in a far more professional way.  I believe you will find the interview interesting & beneficial.

In the next interview with Congresswoman Donna Edwards, Democrat, 4th District of Maryland ( http://donnaedwards.house.gov), we talked specifically about space policy and programs in the congress.  Dr. Jeff Foust and Doug Messier were also present at the press conference and the three of us took turns asking questions.  Congresswoman Edwards also delivered the keynote luncheon address on Saturday at the NewSpace Conference.  She is on the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee where she sits on The Subcommittee on Space and is the Ranking Member.  Some of the questions and topics discussed with Congresswoman Edwards included possible regulations and amending of the CSLA, SLS, Orion, the Asteroids Act 2014, commercial space, public/private partnerships, the NASA budget, bipartisanship on space, the Russian RD-180 rocket motor, the recent Chinese ASAT test, and the theft of intellectual property.  We also asked our guest for the best ways to reach her regarding space advocacy as well as other members of congress.

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Jay Barbree, Monday, 7-28-14 July 29, 2014

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Jay Barbree, Monday, 7-28-14

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2288-BWB-2014-07-28.mp3

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Guest:  Jay Barbree.  Topics:  Neil Armstrong and Jay’s new book, “Neil Armstrong: A Life of Flight,” plus SLS, Orion, NASA Budgets and more.   Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back long time NBC space news reporter Jay Barbree to the show to discuss his new book, “Neil Armstrong: A Life of Flight.  Our program made use of the 60 minute format and one segment. We welcomed Jay to the show but as you will hear, there was a technical glitch as we started so you will hear the program being restarted.  No program time was lost.  Jay started by sharing with us the timeline he worked on for this book which spanned several decades.  He also set the stage by detailing his special relationship with Armstrong that made it possible for him to write this type of book.  He started Chapter 1 with the story of Neil ejecting from his fighter jet during the Korean War.  As you will hear, Neil was one of the early pilots ejecting from a jet fighter.  He flew into an anti-aircraft wire stretched between two mountains and it removed part of his plane.  He was unable to make it back to the Essex but he did manage to keep the plane in flight and when he ejected, he was over a Marine base.  Jay talked extensively about Neil seeing himself as a research test pilot and he referenced the old NACA plus his efforts that eventually paid off to get a test pilot assignment at Edwards AFB to fly at Dryden which has since been renamed after Neil Armstrong.  Jay talked about one X-15 flight where he overshot the landing.  The flight being described, the Pasadena Over flight, demonstrated Neil’s skills and expertise as a test pilot.  Jay talked about how Neil always wanted to go to space, plus his teaching career later in life.  A listener asked Jay about Neil and the Apollo 11 crew.  Jay had much to say on this subject, & why the specific Apollo 11 crew members were selected by Neil and Deke Slayton.  He also talked about the facts of Neil being the first to walk on the Moon, the conspiracy theory about their not being photos of Neil on the Moon because Buzz would not take any and much more.  Another listener wanted to know why Neil became far more public after the Columbia accident.  In his response to this question, Jay talked about Neil not liking the press and wanting to keep his privacy.  In the book, Jay Barbree referred to Armstrong, Collins, and Aldrin as the misfits.  Don’t miss this great discussion.  Later, another listener wanted to know about Neil’s objections to cancelling the Constellation Return to The Moon program.  Jay went into some detail on this subject, including commenting on commercial space, SpaceX and more.  One thing he pointed out as did Neil and other astronauts was that what SpaceX and the new commercial industry was accomplishing, as outstanding as it was, is, and will be, was already done back in the day with our early space program, especially with Apollo.  As part of this discussion, Jay spoke about the SLS and NASA budgets, suggesting more money for NASA was not needed, but they needed to be more effective and efficient with how they spend their annual $18 billion plus.  He talked about consolidation, wastes at the centers and he told the LBJ story about the president’s insistence on locating Mission Control in Houston.  As our discussion was drawing to a close, Jay talked about Neil’s concept for incremental exploration which started out by going no further from Earth than three days with a 3 day return and no further out than a three second communication delay.  Once we mastered that, we go to the next goal and this way we incrementally explore space as we develop the ability to do so.  As the program ended and since Jay talked about getting old and his age throughout the show, I asked him if he planned to send his ashes to space upon his death.  Don’t miss his answer and our program’s conclusion.

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Doug Messier, Monday, 6-16-14 June 17, 2014

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Doug Messier, Monday, 6-16-14

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Guest:  Doug Messier.  Topics:  Space news reporting, suborbital, Virgin Galactic, XCOR & lots more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Doug Messier back to the show to discuss featured news articles of late on his blog, http://www.parabolicarc.com.  Please note that Doug used a cell phone and we did have audio issues at various times during the show.  During the first long segment of our 1 hour 38 minute program, Doug talked about the Mojave Air &Spaceport, Stratolaunch and then Doug got called to task by listeners for his recent reporting & comments regarding Virgin Galactic per his blog, his recent Space Show program and his appearance on the Hotel Mars John Batchelor segment last week.  The gist of the hard questions asked Doug centered around asking him if he had a conflict of interest reporting on other companies given the XCOR book he is writing.  They asked this because to them, his reporting seemed unfair to Virgin while giving XCOR a pass on many of the same issues he talked about with Virgin.  We spent most of the first segment talking about these issues.  Doug spoke freely and talked about how he reports on these issues and why he reports the way he does.  He mentioned several Virgin stories as examples but he also made it very clear that he wants all the companies to be successful and for the industry to develop.  As you will see in the last segment, this particular type of question was asked of him as the program was drawing to a close.  Doug was in the hot seat for much of the first segment so you listen and you decide.  Let Doug know your thoughts on his Virgin reporting by posting on TSS blog or emailing him.  I then moved us to other topics & other companies at Mojave, the FAR for amateur rocketry, but the forces to be kept drawing us back to Doug, his Virgin reporting and XCOR comparisons.  Doug managed to talk about recent SFF and Space Access alerts about language in the Senate NASA funding bill that these organizations and others believe to be a poison pill.  Listen for details.  Also, I asked about Congress planning to fund at least $200 million for a new engine replacement for the RD-180.  We also talked about the Falcon 9 & AF SpaceX certification.  Dr. Doug called near the end of the segment.  During his call, he was sent an email question about the Moon by Tony in Seattle.

In the second segment, we talked about the NASA budget for FY 2015 in some detail.  Doug talked about SLS, Orion, commercial crew funding issues and SpaceX possibly expediting some flights prior to the 2017 schedule.  Doug went into detail about the Sen. Shelby amendment which many believe to be the poison pill mentioned in the first segment.  I took us through several of the top stories being reported on Parabolicarc.com including changes to the Arianne launcher, the Decelerator Flight Test, the NASA Centennial Challenge for Cubesat Deep Space, plus we talked about the Google acquisition of Skybox Imaging and their global broadband plans with Worldview.  Also mentioned as the show was drawing to a close was the GLXP, Doug’s visit to the Dragon V2 unveiling, & then Sally’s final email question asking Doug if he wanted Virgin Galactic to fail given how he reports on the company.  Don’t miss his response to Sally, plus my related comments.

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Rod Pyle, Sunday, 5-4-14 May 5, 2014

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Rod Pyle, Sunday, 5-4-14

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Guest:  Rod Pyle.  Topics:  We discussed our guests new book, “Innovation The NASA Way” plus our space policy, reusability & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases, including “Innovation The NASA Way,” can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Rod Pyle to the show to discuss his new book, “Innovation The NASA Way: Harnessing The Power Of Your Organization For Breakthrough Success,” plus we talked about our space policy, reusability, and other issues.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 52 minute show, Mr. Pyle started by giving us an overview of his background and experiences that led him to writing this book.  Specifically, Rod led leadership training at NASA’s JSC for executives.  From this background, he used the story telling format to illustrate NASA innovation.  Each chapter tells a different story, several of which we highlighted in our discussion.  Rod mentioned innovation at various NASA centers but did say JPL stood out for him.  When asked for the most innovative NASA projects, he talked about some projects that were left on the editor’s computer including the Apollo Guidance Control Computer but he did focus on and highlight the Lunar Module.  We also talked about NASA today and back in the Apollo days. Rod had much to say about this, including how today there seems to be a push for guaranteed results which of course do not exist.  He said NASA was known by three important key words:  Boldness, Daring and Passion.  Listeners asked about reusability and I mentioned a possible reusability moment similar to the previous Apollo moment.

In the second segment, we talked about his Viking chapter & the Viking experiments.  John from Ft. Worth called in regarding a smaller shuttle plan that might have been less ambitious – would it have been better? Questions came about NewSpace and innovating the SpaceX way!  Doug called and did not think that there would be a Reusability Moment like with Apollo but that reusability enhanced prospects for that type of moment, like a manned Mars mission.  Rod was challenged with questions from the perspective that Apollo was the wrong way to go to and develop space.  We talked about his forthcoming book, “Curiosity: The Inside Story” and our excitement over a potential Europa mission.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above. For more information & to contact Rod, visit his website http://www.rodpylebooks.com.

Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Tuesday, 12-3-13 December 4, 2013

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Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Tuesday, 12-3-13

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Guest:  Robert (Bob) Zimmerman.  Topics:  launch competition, commercial space, China, gov. space programs, budget issues.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed back Bob Zimmerman for his Tenth Anniversary Space Show program!  During the first segment of this two hour two minute program, Bob addressed many issues and listener concerns starting with the SpaceX Falcon 9 GEO launch success & the looking back to his first Space Show program on Dec. 3, 2003.  He compared and contrasted his comments then to those today. He also blogged about this on his Behindtheblack.com blog at http://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/exciting-times-in-space.  Listeners expressed their concern about the Chinese space program, their recent lunar landing mission and the day when they can put a human on the Moon.  Listeners wanted to know if this would spark a new space race between China and the U.S.  Bob said no and I agreed with him for slightly different reasons.  However, one of Bob’s consistent and recurring themes (and tonight’s discussion was no different) is that he opposes large government space programs as he says they don’t work.  He provided much evidence for this during our discussion.  During this segment we also talked extensively about launch competition and the benefits from competition in the marketplace.  Listener Al asked about DOD space and if DOD might see the Chinese space program differently.  Bob also mentioned space property rights and he said the existing situation should change based on U.S. law as the model for commercial space to flourish.  There was more talk about the Chinese program which Bob was not too concerned about.  Listen for his reasoning.  John in Ft. Worth called in to also talk about the Chinese program and suggested at some point their success might just humiliate the U.S. into competitive action.  Neither Bob or I thought it was likely that anything would humiliate congress today.  John and Bob then had an interesting discussion on this subject.

In Part 2 of our program, Dr. Lurio called in to talk about being thrilled to the bone by the SpaceX launch and to comment on NewSpace & commercial space issues. Like Bob, he opposes SLS as a big waste.  Bob and Charles then talked about their distaste for large gov. programs such as what JFK created, again saying they don’t work.  Both wondered what space and other things would look like today had JFK not been assassinated.  Dream Chaser was mentioned, again as everyone’s favorite spacecraft.  Al emailed in again to point out the differences in the space perspective of seniors and young people.  Tim called in to mention the Code of Conduct issue with possible international launch standards and how this might hurt the developing US commercial launch business.  I mentioned a Business Week article saying the suborbitals are going to look to R&D flights for repeat customers which they definitely need. Here is the article: www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-11-27/spaceflight-companies-virgin-galactic-xcor-blue-origin-eye-r-and-d-clients.  Toward the end of the program there was more talk about SLS, NASA budget issues, the need to cancel SLS per Bob’s perspective, and economic risks posed to NASA’s planetary science program.  Bob closed out the program with his comments on Inspiration Mars and Mars One, plus a Von Braun comment from 1954 in which it was reported that he said it would take 100 years of research in space to travel to Mars.  Bob said its been 60 years so far and we do not have the capability to do a human flight to Mars today.  Lurio mailed in the last comment about the NASA press conference earlier in the day with his and Bob’s reading that the planetary program was all but dead financially.  The final comments dealt with SLS and the Redirect Mission which Bob completely discounted.

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Dennis Wingo, Tuesday, 10-15-13 October 16, 2013

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Dennis Wingo, Tuesday, 10-15-13

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Guest:  Dennis Wingo.  Topics:  Space policy & budgets, commercial space & entrepreneurism, wealth creation.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed back Dennis Wingo for this 90 minute discussion regarding space policy, budgets, commercial space, space entrepreneurism, cubesats, ISS, and much more. In our first segment, Dennis discussed his recent article, “NASA Will Face Solomon’s Choice in 2014″ posted on Oct. 2, 2013 at http://spaceref.com/missions-and-programs/nasa/nasa-will-face-solomons-choice-in-2014.html.  In this article and in our discussion, our guest focused on the probability of NASA budget cuts in the current environment and the probable impact upon the agency.  Thus, NASA or Congress might find that they have to make a Solomon like choice for program funding between SLS/Orion or the ISS.  Listeners wanted to know if cutting commercial crew would give NASA sufficient funding for the other two programs.  The short answer was no but listen to the full explanation provided by our guest.  Dennis then talked about both SLS and ISS and the commercial & entrepreneurial future now developing with ISS with small satellites and space start-ups.  Referencing recent comments by Dr. Griffin, Dennis said in a perfect world with wise political leadership, we would be funding all sorts of space development projects as they create wealth, open the doors for businessmen and women with abundant opportunities and so much more but for the past 40 years he said we have not had wise political leadership. Instead. rather than investing in our future, politicians have invested in buying votes.  He talked about this issue throughout the balance of our program.  Dennis mentioned he was doing tonight’s program aboard the icebreaker Maritol docked at Pier 50 in the SF Bay.  The Maritol has become a hacker space and business incubator for small satellite and related space businesses.  In the second segment, he went into more detail about the Maritol and the eviction threat it is facing from the SF Port.  He also talked about GEO being a huge market but very costly which is why the focus is now on small satellites and developing profitable, cost effective businesses and models.

In our second segment, Tim called with several SLS, ISS, and 3 D printing questions, including asking how much mass was needed to build a Moon base.  We then talked about capital acquisition and the characteristics of ventures funded by Silicon Valley venture capital financiers.  Dennis said the timing was now right and we should adopt the zero g zero tax bill, and that we should be implementing the JOBS Act Title II which allows for crowdfunding investment.  Read about it at http://venturebeat.com/2013/09/23/crowdfunding-with-jobs-act-title-ii-the-web-will-eat-financing-and-investing.  John called in to express his views on the Solomon’s Choice options, then we talked some more about the Maritol docked at Pier 50.  Here are some articles about it: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/startups-aboard-icebreaker-ship-could-face-eviction-soon-san-francisco-says (this article talks about its possible eviction & has a link to the petition you can sign to keep the Maritol in the Bay);  www.forbes.com/sites/rakeshsharma/2013/10/07/a-ship-a-couple-of-startups-and-the-bay; and here are some pictures of the icebreaker, www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/The-Icelandic-Cargo-Ship-Maritol-127274388.html.  As you will hear, it is important to sign the petition to keep this space business incubator in the SF Bay.

Post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  Check out the Dennis Wingo blog at www.denniswingo.wordpress.com.

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