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Dr. Jeff Foust, Monday, 12-15-14 December 16, 2014

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Dr. Jeff Foust, Monday, 12-15-14

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Guest:  Dr. Jeff Foust.  Topics:  Space news and events and a look into 2015.  Lots of quality space analysis.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Jeff Foust back to the program.  In the first segment of our 1 hour 53 minute discussion, Jeff covered many space events and projects including Jeff’s “Commercial Spaceflight After the Antares and SpaceShipTwo Failures” talk at the National Air and Space Museum on Dec. 8th.  We also talked about commercial space and here, Jeff gave us a good definition to use in general for commercial space.  He then provided us with economic stats for the entire commercial space industry and its segments including commercial satellites, ground service, NewSpace, and more.  Our guest said that Orion and SLS were at one end of the commercial space spectrum while at the other end one finds XCOR & Virgin Galactic.  Michael Listner called to talk about the Orion EFT 1 flight needing a commercial launch license as well as a return license given that it was a commercial flight contracted for by NASA in contrast to a NASA flight using a commercial company.  The discussion changed to the Virgin Galactic and Orbital Antares accidents and the potential impact of those accidents on both the companies and the commercial space industry in general.  Orbital’s proposed merger with ATK was mentioned as were possible replacement engines for Antares including the use of an ATK SRB.  A listener then brought up the Russian sanctions and the continued seemingly good relationship we have with Russia regarding space.  As the segment was ending, Alan in Tucson asked about reports that the Russians would leave the ISS in 2020.

In the second segment, our first caller was Dwayne who wanted to talk about delays and slipped launch schedules regarding the SpaceX launch manifesto. Jeff and Dwayne had an excellent discussion on this topic so don’t miss it.  Related topics came up in the discussion including reusability, customer needs such as an on time launch versus wanting a lower price and more.  Jerry sent in an email asking about the Raptor tests by SpaceX but Jeff said not much was being made public about them.  The NASA FY 15 budget came up again and Jeff went into some detail as to what part of NASA got what.  Public/private partnerships were mentioned & fully discussed in the segment.  Jeff did point out that the project must entice a private company to participate meaning that it  probably needs to have a strong business case for the project otherwise why would a private commercial company join with NASA.  Jeff indicated these opportunities might be few and far between at this time but when they work, they are a good way to structure the project.  There was a listener inquiry about SLS and cancellation. Jeff had much to say about this too.  Near the end of the segment, we talked more about public/private partnerships, the Delta 2 rocket and Antares, plus rocket certification for a NASA HSF launch, a science mission, and a DOD launch as all three have different certification requirements.  Our final topics included a brief mention of the suborbital industry, Dragon Lab, Skybox, Google Space, and Planet Labs.  Jeff offered us a good set of closing comments so be sure to listen to them.

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Open Lines, Sunday, 12-14-14 December 15, 2014

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Open Lines, Sunday, 12-14-14

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Tags:  Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  NASA Orion/SLS budget, Lunar Orbital Station, backing up Earth’s species and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

Welcome to our Open Lines discussion program.  During the first segment of our 2 hour 7 minute program, I started the discussion with a few suggested topics and program announcements.  The only suggested topic that had anything like legs was the 19% budget increase for SLS/Orion in the new FY 15 spending bill just passed by Congress.  BJohn sent in an email asking about a possible Lunar Orbital Station, maybe with Orion, in lieu of the ARM.  Next, Doug called in from S. California to promote the concept of Bio Preserve, backing up Earth’s species.  He talked about the need for this and why and how it might be done.  I suggested he check out the Lifeboat Foundation as they have something of a similar plan though its not identical to what Doug was talking about.  I did ask Doug how such a backup plan would be paid for and like most good ideas, paying for them presents challenges though Doug had decent suggestions.  Brett then called in to talk about his online book, “How To Be A Rocket Scientist.”  Get more information about the book and the ten tips that we talked about by visiting his website, http://www.howtobearocketscientist.com.  He said the book is aimed at the high school audience but he has been hearing from adults and college students who also find the book valuable.  We highlighted a few of his ten tips for discussion.

In the second segment, SLS John called re the NASA budget and said there was plenty of money and the funding increase for SLS/Orion put us on the right path.  John continued to make the case that SLS/Orion is our best chance to avoid being stuck in LEO.  I asked him about commercial space options and he said continuing with SLS/Orion does not prevent the commercial industry from following its own path.  Doug sent in a few emails to John about his comments including one saying that continuing with SLS/Orion blocks the possibility of public/private partnerships.  I challenged Doug’s comment on this because it assumes that monies saved by not having an SLS/Orion program would be used on Doug’s chosen space projects.  In fact Doug did say that we need to better spend tax payer money. While we can all agree with that, the best use of taxpayer money is clearly subjective and would depend on who you were talking with about the use of the money.  Marshall called next to inquire about an update show on space solar power.  I told him I would attempt to get a quality and realistic guest on the program early in the new year.  We then heard from Charles Pooley.  Charles talked about the first year anniversary of his first Microlaunchers book, book two which is in progress and plans for book three.  He also said he was interested in the NASA Challenge dealing with laser communications from space.  Also during the show I went over the final end of the year schedule and the plan to play archived end of the report program with Tom Olson as I did last year leading up to our live program with Tom for end of the year on Dec. 30.  I also pointed out that we would have one more Open Lines program this year on Sunday, Dec. 28.

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John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 12-10-14 December 11, 2014

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John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 12-10-14

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Guests: John Batchelor, Larry Price, Dr. David Livingston. Topics: The recent successful ORION EFT-1 test flight & recovery. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm). For those of you listening to archives on live365.com & rating the programs, please email me the reasons for your rating. This will definitely help improve Space Show programming. Thank you.

 

John Batchelor and I welcomed Larry Price, Orion Deputy Program Manager, to Hotel Mars. During our 12 minute Hotel Mars segment, we talked about the successful EFT-1 test flight and recovery, how Orion is different from the Apollo capsule, the new heat shield, and Orion’s capabilities. We also talked about the planned initial Orion missions which will be in cislunar space, the Moon and even out to the lunar LaGrange point. Also discussed were planned Orion BLEO missions past the Moon. Given the proposed budget increase for Orion and SLS for FY 15, I asked Larry was if this increase could speed up readiness of Orion. Larry also talked about some of the flight test equipment and the type of data collected from both the flight and the return. We also talked about using UAV imaging for the return as well as the use of two Blackhawk helicopters. Near the end of the segment, Larry was asked about the possibility of Orion landing on land. While it can do that, the trades don’t typically support it as landing on water is more efficient. He explains why in our discussion. Near the end, John asked about Orion’s computer and its power.

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Matthew (Matt) Wallace, Tuesday, 12-2-14 December 3, 2014

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Matthew (Matt) Wallace, Tuesday, 12-2-14

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Guest:  Matthew (Matt) Wallace.  Topics:  Mars science missions, Mars 2020, searching for lie on Mars.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Matt Wallace from our Hotel Mars program to his first appearance on The Space Show.  During the first segment of our 90 minute program, Matt talked about his early mission assignments when he first came to JPL, then his shift to the Mars program.  We also talked about how the science missions and rovers are designed, managed, and eventually flown.  I asked our guest several questions about the science missions such as how a Deimos mission might differ from a mission to the surface of Mars.  Later, a listener asked our guest about a Europa mission and how that would differ. While there are clearly differences in the missions to different destinations, the trade process, planning, team organization and such all work pretty much the same.  We did spend some time talking about a Europa mission as that mission is a favorite for many of us, our guest included Most of the Europa mission discussion was in the second segment.  Matt talked about the new science instruments that will be on board Mars 2020, plus the extensive use of heritage hardware. He also said about 70% of the original MSL & Curiosity team would be working on Mars 2020, an important fact in managing the mission, costs and assuring mission success.  Matt was asked why it was so hard to confirm microbial life on Mars now or in the past & if there was one instrument that could do that.  This proved to be a fascinating and detailed discussion so don’t miss it.  Many listener emails addressed the rover control process.  There is no real time communication with the rover so Matt explained how they send commands to the rover, how the rover processes those commands and the safeguards built into it to protect the rover from accidents, etc.  He also talked about communication windows with Earth, when antennas are pointed toward Mars, and the busy DSN.  Listener Alex asked him about the book “The Martian” and wanted to know that were an astronaut stuck on Mars or needing some sort of emergency gear or something, could a defunct Mars rover be cannibalized for parts and made to work for the purpose needed by the person on Mars.  Matt’s answer might surprise you.  Several listeners wanted to know about a human Mars mission being more efficient for finding life signs than a rover.  Matt explained the trades involved. Doug emailed in a similar question during the second segment.  Matt said its not either or.  Instead, the rovers and a human mission are synergistic with one another.  As the segment ended, our guest was asked if NASA/JPL would consider partnering with a private human mission such as Mars One to use Mars One crew members for science missions.

In the second segment, we talked about other Mars rovers and mission including Maven and Insight.  Next, the question came in about Europa that was mentioned in the earlier segment.  Doug not only asked his robotic vs. human question but he sent in another question regarding the sample return mission and what methods might be used for collecting multiple samples.  He suggested a few different collection methods.  Matt said they discuss these types of options but in the end the trades opt for simpler missions for a variety of reasons.  See what you think of his answer & post your comment on the blog.  John, a high school student, sent in a note about colleges and the best path to be able to work in the space industry.  Barbara sent in a note asking if the EDL would be Seven Minutes of Terror Part 2 since they were using the same system as used for Curiosity or would it be less stressful.  Matt said they would still be nail biting all the way down.

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Dennis Wingo, Monday, 12-1-14 December 2, 2014

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Dennis Wingo, Monday, 12-1-14

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2366-BWB-2014-12-01.mp3

Guest:  Dennis Wingo.  Topics:  NASA ARM Mission, RTM, HSF to Mars, solar system economic development & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com . Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.  We did have a few audio problems as Dennis used a cell phone and we lost the connection a few times due to storms across N. California.

We welcomed back Dennis Wingo for this 93 minute discussion. PLEASE NOTE THAT WE ARE NOW CONDUCTING OUR ANNUAL FUND RAISING DRIVE.  WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE SPACE SHOW AND ITS PROGRAMMING EFFORT.  During our first segment, Dennis talked about his recent blog article at http://denniswingo.wordpress.com, To ARM or Not To ARM: Is That Really Our Question.  I urge you to download and read this article as Dennis refers to it many times over during our discussion.  He started out with an analysis of what was thought to be the NASA ARM mission as compared to what it has become today.  As you will hear, he was supportive of the initial mission, not the current evolved mission.  He explained why the shift in his position which was based on making the ARM mission a minimalist type mission.  He explained the differences in detail.  Budget reasons were cited as a primary reason for the mission being downgraded.  Dennis offered us an historical analysis & perspective of the NASA budget.  SLS, Falcon Heavy, & lots of space policy made it to this segment.  Dennis talked about solar electric propulsion for ARM, then he was asked about the likelihood of the next president initiating an RTM program.  Doug emailed about a COTS like program with ULA & Masten for a lunar lander.  Dennis had much to say about a lunar lander dating back to the Gemini era up to new, lower cost ideas coming from the commercial space industry.

In the second segment, Dennis continued talking about the upcoming new Congress and what might emerge as a different type program with a different budget though he thought we were more likely to entertain the status quo.  Several listeners wanted to know if it would boil down to the Moon vs. ARM or the Moon vs. Mars.  Don’t miss his response to these questions.  Our guest suggested we all watch the “Wanderers” video which you can see at http://vimeo.com/108650530.  Dennis mentioned that we did not need a government program as such for space but he did speak in favor of public/private partnerships.  We spoke much about the need for space and lunar infrastructure.  Sally asked him to explain the difference with the economic development of the solar system and space settlement.  He said space settlement was very much a part of a space economic development effort.  In response to another set of listener questions, Dennis talked about the 90-10 rule when has about robots in space as compared to astronauts.  Doug called to talk about investment capital for commercial space plus other issues.  I then asked Dennis if Lunar Cots or industrialization was included in solar system economic development and if so, at what stage?  Kirk emailed in a question challenging the role played by offering prizes.  Don’t miss what Dennis had to say in response to Kirk’s email.  Before we ended the program, Dennis mentioned his latest blog article about Apollo betrayed by the very people who made the Apollo mission happen.  You can read this article at http://denniswingo.wordpress.com.

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Marcia Smith, Friday, 11-21-14 November 22, 2014

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Marcia Smith, Friday, 11-21-14

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2360-BWB-2014-11-21.mp3

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Guest:  Marcia Smith.  Topics:  U.S. space policy, budgets, Congress. Civics 101, SLS, Falcon Heavy, policy makers.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Marcia Smith back to the show for a preview of the upcoming 114th Congress & space issues with a focus on budget issues & just how congress works with NASA & space policy.  During our 97 minute discussion, we started out with a short Civics 101 lesson on how Congress works, NASA funding, & Congressional oversight of NASA.  For those of you not that familiar with how the U.S. Congress works and funds space programs with NASA, you will find this short discussion most helpful.  Marcia explained both Senate and House roles and their appropriations and authorization committees.  As you will hear, Congress controls NASA spending and there is very little discretionary spending available to the NASA Administrator.  As for the new Congress that will be taking office in early January, the big focus will be on budget issues because by law, the sequestration returns for Fiscal Year 16.  If Congress keeps the sequestration in place, while hurtful to many government agencies and programs, it is damaging to NASA.  We also talked about a possible renewed interest in the Europa Mission as Texas Representative John Culberson will chair the House Appropriations Subcommittee for Commerce, Justice, and Science. His Houston district is close to JSC & he’s very enthusiastic about NASA and a Europa mission.  Marcia mentioned the NASA SOFIA program as an example of Congress wanting the program despite it being eliminated in the budget proposal so it added it back in to the NASA budget.  Listeners asked about long term projects being funded for longer than a year.  Marcia addressed this issue though there is no good answer because Congress has oversight & they can change or modify positions from year to year.  Our guest was asked about Congressional policy impact on the private & entrepreneurial space industry.  Unless a public/private partnership exists or the government is a major customer of the private company, congressional policy does not overlap into the private sector.  It is also important to distinguish between regulatory and budget issues as we are talking budget issues in this program.  Several listeners wanted to know if the media and the public could impact Congress & space policy makers.  Another set of listener & Space Show comments over recent weeks addressed the 2016 presidential election, wanting to know if history bears out a change in president equaling a big change in space policy.  Don’t miss this discussion.  Later, Ralph in Phoenix wanted to know if the Falcon Heavy was very successful, would such a success impact congress & policy makers to move away from the SLS program as unnecessary.  Doug called in to clarify Ralph’s question for a more precise response from our guest.  It was clear that Doug and many other listeners believe that a FH success should and would impact SLS policy, perhaps demonstrating that SLS was not needed in light of a successful Falcon Heavy.  However, Marcia questioned that outcome. Don’t miss this important discussion.  BJohn in Sweden wanted to know if SLS, when operational, would create more space opportunities for congress to consider.  Kelly got the last email question in asking about the Space Act Agreement vs. the FAR (cost plus contracting).  He wanted to know if the changes in congress might result in more big space projects using a Space Act Agreement over the FAR.  Marcia did not think so given the FAR offers congress more oversight.  As the show was ending, I asked Marcia what we should look for as hints about space policy in the new congress.  Our guest pointed to the budget and what happens with the FY 2016 sequestration already on the books.

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John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 11-12-14 November 13, 2014

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John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 11-12-14

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2355-BWB-2014-11-12.mp3

Featuring Marcia Smith (www.spacepolicyonline.com)

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Guests: John Batchelor, Marcia Smith, Dr. David Livingston.  Topic:  The impact of the 2014 mid-term election on NASA budgets & policy.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce.  This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com.  Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm).  For those of you listening to archives on live365.com & rating the programs, please email me the reasons for your rating.  This will definitely help improve Space Show programming. Thank you.

 

John Batchelor and I welcomed Marcia Smith (www.spacepolicyonline.com) to Hotel Mars to discuss the impact of the recently held mid-term elections on space policy, the NASA budget, specific NASA projects, commercial space, and more.  We talked about new Senate Republican chairmanships of crucial committees and subcommittees and what this might portend for policy and budgets.  We asked Marcia about the survivability of NASA programs such as SLS and the ARM.  Other issues discussed included NASA budget caps, a possible space race with China and how Congress might react to such competition, plus  an overview of the current Russian-US relationship with space, particularly the ISS.

 

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Golden Oldie: Elon Musk from 10-24-01 replayed Tuesday, 10-28-14 October 28, 2014

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Golden Oldie: Elon Musk from 10-24-01 replayed Tuesday, 10-28-14

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Guest:  Elon Musk from Oct. 24, 2001; Topic: Golden Oldie Archive Play regarding the Mars Oasis plan and Elon’s ideas for a multi-planet species by settling on Mars.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.   For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

This is a Golden Oldie program from Oct. 24, 2001.  At this time, The Space Show was known as Business Without Boundaries and was aired on a Phoenix radio station.  The formatting of the program was that of the radio station as they divided the 60 minute discussion into 5 short segments. All the commercial breaks and music from back then are included in this discussion.  Elon was the 16th guest on The Space Show (Business Without Boundaries).  In the first segment, we talked about the why of Elon’s interest in space and the need to be on a second planet.  Mr. Musk talked about the different reasons for wanting to go to space but for him it was to insure survival of our species by being a multi-planet species.  Elon then discussed his Mars Oasis Project which was time lined for 2005 as a private mission.  He wanted to rally American public opinion for the need for a human presence on Mars.  Our guest took us deeper into Mars Oasis with his greenhouse plans and some of the crops he thought would be suitable for the project.

In the second segment, Elon again said they were looking for a 2005 launch with a landing on Mars in 2006.  A listener asked him about using off the shelf technology and Bruce from Stanford wanted to know about Russian-US cooperation since the plan was to use a converted Russian SS18 ICBM for the launch vehicle.  Our guest also identified some of the equipment that would be part of the Mars Oasis payload.  John in St. Louis asked Elon if this was a commercial project with an expected ROI.  The answer was that it was a humanitarian project and no ROI was expected.

In the third segment, Elon was asked to estimate the costs for the project.  He said that NASAs cheaper missions were around $200-250 million and full cost missions were higher. In this segment he suggested the costs might be 10-15% of the lower NASA costs.  He was also planning two missions since it was possible for one to fail.

In the fourth segment, Elon was asked additional questions about the costs which he approximated at $20-$30 million.  Another question dealt with regulatory issues. Here, Elon did talk about ITAR but said at present there were no laws or regulations regarding a private mission to Mars.  Remember now, our discussion took place in 2001. Near the end of this short segment, questions about using the NASA DSN came up as Mars Oasis would need to communicate with Earth.  Elon suggested a design for his own communication network which he said might be commercialized down the road for other upcoming commercial space users.

In the fifth and final short segment, Elon summarized our discussion and said that he wanted to both change the world & create a world.  He also said we were closer to being able to go to Mars than JFK was when he said we would go to the Moon.

Post your comments on The Space Show blog but remember, this discussion aired Oct. 24, 2001.  9/11 had just happened.  We were preparing for war, our nation was very different then than it is today.  If you listen to later interviews with Elon, you will hear him discuss why Mars Oasis was tabled and why he thought it necessary to build his own rocket and rocket company.  You can find these archived programs using the GuestSearch tool on our website.  Search for his name.  You want the programs where he was the guest, not just talked about by others. Hats off to Elon Musk for his flexibility and for his work in making sure his vision eventually comes to life and reality.

Brian Altmeyer, Friday, 10-24-14 October 25, 2014

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Brian Altmeyer, Friday, 10-24-14

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Guest:  Brian Altmeyer.  Topics:  We discussed the guest’s article posted on the Oct. 6, 2014 issues of The Space Review:  “The Strange Contagion Of a Dream.”  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Brian Altmeyer to the program to discuss his Oct. 6, 2014 Space Review article, “The Strange Contagion of a Dream: How Space Visionaries Hijack Governments to Change the World (see http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2611/1). During the first segment of our 1 hour 27 minute discussion, Mr. Altmeyer introduced us to the background behind writing this article, how he got the idea for it, plus he explained the overall impact space visionaries have had on him and his interest in space development.  Our guest took us back in time to the V2 program, Von Braun, and the politics of beating the Soviet Union to the Moon.  He made the case that both the Soviet Union’s and the US space program fed off each other in the form of competition to not only develop military space resources and ICBMs, plus our civil space programs as well.  I then asked our guest if he thought competition with China over their lunar and long range plans would result in a similar push for civil and commercial space.  His response was very interesting.  Ellen in Portland sent an email suggesting we did not have inspirational or effective leaders today like we had with Von Braun and others.  Brian disputed that and made reference to Elon Musk at SpaceX several times during our discussion.  Gerald Driggers called to talk about the impact of the International Geophysical Year on our early program.  Gerald worked in the early space program & had much to say about the main space personalities of the time along with the early rockets.  Our guest was asked about vision and Mars One, again he brought up SpaceX, and then he talked about exoplanets.  I asked him about the second to last paragraph in his paper regarding leadership issues and many waiting or expecting a new leader to come on the scene in a future election.  Don’t miss his comments on this issue.

In the second segment, Brian was asked about space budgets serving as a limiting factor & if SpaceX was carrying too much of the burden for our moving forward with space development.  Listeners asked him about sustainable space projects inspired & pushed by advocacy.  Do the projects continue or eventually die off?  Allison sent in a note asking our guest why we even needed HSF.  For his response, he cited reasons often provided by Elon Musk when he gets this question or one like it.  Near the end of the program, Ron emailed our guest to challenge his visionary outlook by asking if he had considered the reality of applying  human medical factors, engineering realities, orbital mechanics, & the known science for rockets & human spaceflight regarding the type of visionary statements made by Brian during the show.  This proved to be an interesting discussion as Brian said there were two ways to resolve such issues.  One way would be through testing and incremental progress to resolve or mitigate problems and the other way would be to just do the flight and sort of learn on the job, realizing there would be lots of casualties but at least we would be flying and learning.  I asked our guest if he was dismissing the known engineering &science including medical science.  He said he was not but clearly he preferred the second approach to problem solving. What do you think?

Please let us know by posting your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  You can reach our guest through me or the email address he provided at the end of his Space Review article.

Dr. Paul Spudis, Monday, 10-20-14 October 21, 2014

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Dr. Paul Spudis, Monday, 10-20-14

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Guest:  Dr. Paul Spudis.  Topics:  A wide ranging discussion on current space topics including the Moon, ARM, Mars, and policy.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Paul Spudis back to the program for a wide ranging discussion on space topics plus we take a look at some of his recent blog posts.  You can follow his blog posts at www.spudislunarresources.com/blog and http://www.airspacemag.com/tag/once-and-future-moon/?no-cache&no-ist.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 52 minute program, Dr. Spudis talked about his blog article for a lunar tour, “A Lunar Road Trip” (www.spudislunarresources.com/blog/a-lunar-road-trip).  We talked with Paul about ways in which a future lunar tourist could actually move around on the Moon to see the places Paul described in his article.   The two methods discussed were hopping and using a vehicle on the order of the Lunar Winnebago concept.  The first listener question asked Dr. Spudis about the U.S. private sector doing lunar missions instead of the government.  He was also asked about the private lunar programs such as Golden Spike and others.  He spoke to some degree about the Google Lunar XPrize.  Paul also addressed the Chinese lunar program, then we talked about cislunar space and its economic development.  The ARM came up and Dr. Spudis called it a stunt.  He suggested it would be an Orion mission because there was no place to send Orion other than ARM.  He mentioned Inspiration Mars which he said was the ultimate stunt and ahead of its time.  In terms of changes in our space policy, he did not see any changes happening soon.  Next up was the NRC Pathways HSF Study which we have discussed on many Space Show program.  He said they asked and answered the wrong questions.  See what you think after hearing his comments.  Another topic that came up dealt with prizes.  He said they had not produced the desired outcome and cited evidence for it  saying prizes were overstated in terms of their impact on space development.  BJohn sent in several email questions including asking about Moon-Mars differences wondering why the Moon would be a good training place for HSF to Mars.  As the segment ended, we talked about water on the Moon and if it was now confirmed.

In the second segment, we honored James Charles Floyd on his 100th birthday for his role in the Canadian Avro Aero project and more.  BJohn asked about X37 B & then Dr. Spudis was asked about his blog post regarding recent government sponsored spaceflight studies and panels (“Quinquennial Follies” at http://www.spudislunarresources.com/blog/quinquennial-follies).  I asked Paul about space advocacy influence on policy and he told us an interesting story based on his experience regarding lunar space policy.  Don’t miss it.  Listeners asked about our technology readiness today for cislunar development and the building of a lunar outpost.  Our last email question came from Phil in New Brunswick asking about virtual space universities, teaching, and lectures.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  Dr. Spudis can be reached through his blogs or me.

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