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Space Show 2000th Program & 12th Anniversary Tribute, Tuesday, 5-7-13 May 8, 2013

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Space Show 2000th Program & 12th Anniversary Tribute, Tuesday, 5-7-13

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Guests:  Dr. John Jurist and Dr. Doug Plata served as co-hosts.  Topics: This program honored The Space Show for its more than 2,000 programs and its upcoming 12th anniversary.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

This Space Show program stands out among all Space Show programs as it honors The Space Show for having passed the 2,000 program mark plus the upcoming 12th anniversary of the program later this month.  Dr. Plata and Dr. John Jurist organized this program, much of which was a surprise to me.  Dr. Plata set up a special tribute email address, honordrspace@gmail.com and they both contacted guests and listeners for their comments on the program and what they believe The Space Show has meant to them, the space world, and to our space development efforts.  Our 1 hour 47 minute program was in two segments but this summary will not be divided by segment as topics overlapped one another. Dr. Jurist asked me lots of questions about how the program started, how it has changed over the years, how the audience has changed, and how I’ve changed.  After asking one or two questions and getting my long winded responses, Dr. Plata read some great emails sent in by guests and listeners.  This was the format for the entire program.  Honestly, I was really surprised by the comments, the statements of support and meaning for The Space Show and by those of you that took time from your busy schedules to say a few words about the program.  It was a very humbling experience for me and I am glad it was an audio only program rather a webinar as I was really moved by the outpouring of support for the program and me.  Doug did not have time to read all the emails that came in but we intend to post them to the blog and will continue posting them to the blog as they come in.  Please use the special email address above but for those of you that use the regular program address, I will copy and post them to the blog as well.  John asked lots of questions about the economic impact on space, both here and around the world, about private space, NASA, human spaceflight, and such.  I spoke about public/private partnerships, the need, in my opinion, for American leadership in science and space, and why.  We also took phone calls from listeners wanting to comment on this special Space Show program.  As our program was drawing to a close, John asked me about library quality archives for research with a truly searchable, interactive academic data base.  We talked about this, what it might take to do it given the number and average length of Space Show programs.  If any of you have actual library, research and multimedia academic catalog search experience, we would like to hear from you to find out about creating a truly researchable, academic Space Show catalog/library.  If you have that type of specialized experience, please contact me using drspace@thespaceshow.com.  Perhaps we will create a funding mechanism to create the library for our archived programs and new programs coming up.

We welcome your comments/questions and more so post them on The Space Show blog.  I look forward to many more years with The Space Show, to continuing to provide a civil and credible forum for the discussion of all perspectives and points of view, and to give a voice to many of you that have much to say but are without a microphone. This program was number 2,004 and as I said on the air, the program would not exist without you the listeners and with you the guests who so freely give of your time to help us all learn more about space, science, and all that we talk about and share on The Space Show.  Thank you very much and as I said on the show and as many of you said as well, the next 2,000 shows will be even more valuable to us all than the first 2,000!  The Space Show only exists because of you the listeners and you the guests.  I never lose sight of that.  I never will.

Tribute emails are posted here:  Space Show Tribute Emails

Robert Sackheim, Monday, 4-1-13 April 2, 2013

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Robert Sackheim, Monday, 4-1-13

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1986-BWB-2013-04-01.mp3

Guest:  Robert (Bob) Sackheim.  Topics:  Commercial space, propulsion, U.S. space policy & more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed Robert Sackheim to the program to discuss NASA, commercial space, the current state of rocket propulsion and advancements in the field.  During our first segment of this 1 hour 47 minute discussion, Mr. Sackheim talked about his background and experience at TRW, NASA MSFC, and his current consulting.  I asked him several questions about the current state of rocket propulsion. Bob had much to say about this, focusing on chemical rocket propulsion, satellite propulsion, electric propulsion, and the need for nuclear propulsion.  He talked about booster rockets, various rocket stages and their propulsion, rocket engines, and even SRBs.  Several questions came in asking him if we had the current technology for HSF to Mars or even the Inspiration Mars flyby mission talked about so much in the recent press.  Listeners wanted to know if our current levels of propulsion were up to the task.  After a rather thorough propulsion discussions, Bob turned to commercial space, lowering total space mission costs, regulatory policy, and commercial spaceports.  He also talked about budget issues and raised the question a few times as to why ten NASA centers were needed given their often overlapping, competitive, and duplicate work.

In our second segment, commercial space took the lead with a discussion on public/private partnerships & the belief that Americans can do anything if we set our mind to it, including space travel.  Of course here the problem as we know lies in leadership and today it appears that leadership in space & other areas is sparse at best.   Bob then focused on geo satellites and the increasing development and capabilities applicable to cubesats.  HSF came up for discussion as did the robotic missions. You might be surprised by what our guest had to say about HSF.  Other issues in this segment included the lunar space elevator, the congressional and NASA track record in canceling ongoing projects & taking lessons from history, SSP, & ways to reform & move NASA forward.  Bob spoke about evolving toward the old NACA model.  I asked about the impact of space advocacy from his perspective given his leadership experience and past positions in leading organizations and projects.  We also asked him about space tourism and hybrid rocket engines. He had much to say about hybrids, don’t miss the discussion.  Bob talked about the Falcon rockets, testing including static fire tests, and SRBs as related to the Constellation project and safety.  Toward the end, our guest was asked about NewSpace, fuel depots, & cryo transfer.  For closing comments, he talked about commercial space being the way to go & the path to our space future.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog. You can reach Mr. Sackheim through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Mark Whittington, Tuesday, 3-12-13 March 13, 2013

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Mark Whittington, Tuesday, 3-12-13

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Guest:  Mark Whittington.  Topics:  Updates for the current state of affairs in the space industry; Mark’s novella, “Dreams of Barry’s Stepfather.”  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed Mark Whittington back for space industry updates and for information about his new novella available on Amazon.  Mark’s blog, Curmudgeons Corner is at http://curmudgeons.blogspot.com.  In the first hour of our two hour discussion, Mark talked about the commercial space ventures announced in 2012 and so far in 2013.  He focused on Inspiration Mars but also talked about many of the other ventures.  We talked about the possible impact of a tragic accident on the Mars mission and its probable impact on the industry which we did not think would be great based on what happened after both Challenger and Columbia.  Mark also talked about asteroid mining and returning to the Moon.  Later, the subject of the possibility of a new spaceport for SpaceX in Brownsville, Texas was discussed and Mark told us about a few possible wrinkles with the establishment of that spaceport.  He also mentioned the Mars One mission out of Holland, then we talked some space politics regarding many in Congress.  The NewSpace sector came up and Mark has some interesting observations about this part of the industry.

In our second segment, we continued talking about space politics but we brought in critical comments about the media as well.  Mark then cited the NRC study on NASA’s Strategic Direction and the Need for a National Consensus as an example of the problems within NASA, the absence of a real HSF  asteroid mission and more.  Mark also mentioned the four options talked about in the NRC NASA study. John called in from Atlanta and talked about the newly announced NASA-Lockheed program to have K-12 students around the world work on space radiation issues. We talked about this effort in some detail and were supportive of it.  You can read about it at www.govconexecutive.com/2013/03/lockheed-nasa-seeking-k-12-student-radiation-protection-ideas-marillyn-hewson-comments.  Mark then told us about his new novella, “Dreams of Barry’s Stepfather.”  If you get it from this Amazon URL, http://www.amazon.com/Dreams-of-Barrys-Stepfather-ebook/dp/B00BO9D3NC/ref=onegiantlea20, Amazon will make a contribution to The Space Show/OGLF.  We spent most of the rest of our discussion going over the alternative time line which Mark developed to make this a most interesting novella with broad space industry impact.  At the end of the program, we talked about Nasa and the space budgets and sequestration, heavy lift, and fuel depots.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can reach Mark through his own blog or through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

 

Henry Vanderbilt, Monday, 3-4-13 March 5, 2013

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Henry Vanderbilt, Monday, 3-4-13

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Guest:  Henry Vanderbilt.  Topics: Space Access Conference 2013 & Planetary Defense issues.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed back Henry Vanderbilt for our annual program in support of the upcoming Space Access Conference to be held in Phoenix, Arizona from April 11-13, 2013.  For detailed conference information, hotel & conference registration, and for speaker and program information, please visit www.space-access.org. During the first hour of our 90 minute program, Henry described the conference, talked about many of the speakers, and the issues facing the general space industry as well as commercial space for 2013.  He also talked about other national space programs and how they were moving forward with their space budgets and plans, even in the commercial space world.  Near the end of the first segment, we covered the conference logistics in some detail, including registration and hotel information.  All of this is available on their website.

In the second segment, Henry spoke about planetary defense issues in their latest newsletter issue. You can read this issue at www.space-access.org/updates/sau130.html.  Henry went over the planetary defense issues based on the observations of Comet 2012-A1 which may be headed for Mars.  He asked the question what if this comet were headed for Earth and we knew about it at least two years before reaching Earth.  Could we do anything about it?  He concluded that we might be able to deflect it and put forth his deflection scenarios in the newsletter and our on air discussion.  For the most part, his concept makes use of hydrogen bombs exploding near the comet before it reaches Earth.  The explosions heat up one side of the comet causing a sort of exhaust from the volatiles slightly changing the course of the comet.  Not only will you find this to be an interesting discussion but I urge you to read his paper on the subject as he goes into detail about the energy needed, how to do it, the launch issue, etc.  He said that the political and leadership issues were probably more challenging than the technical challenges.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog per above.  You can email Henry about the conference or with other questions using space.access@mindspring.com.  If you want to subscribe to the conference newsletters and the Space Access mailings such as the newsletter, send your request to this email address and Henry will add you to the list.

AIAA California Space Day, Monday, 2-25-13 February 25, 2013

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AIAA California Space Day, Monday, 2-25-13

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Guests:  Duane Hyland, John Rose.  Topics:  AIAA California Space Day and the California aerospace industry.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed back to the show Duane Hyland of AIAA and John Rose of Boeing to discuss the AIAA California Space Day scheduled for March 12-13, 2013 at the Capitol in Sacramento, CA.  Our guests went over the agenda which includes models of Curiosity on the Capitol lawn and more, plus meetings with members of the California Assembly and Senate.  If you want more information or are planning to attend, email Duane at duaneh@aiaa.org.  The schedule is for panel discussions and other meetings on Tuesday, a Tuesday evening reception with members of the California legislature and their staffs, and then the following morning, Wednesday, March 13, we will visit legislative offices to talk California space and the AIAA focus.  During our one hour program, Duane and John talked about the AIAA space agenda, both for their national lobby efforts with Congress as well as the state space day meetings.  Listeners wanted to know if AIAA was only traditional aerospace or if it included NewSpace and the emerging space companies.  Our guests had much to say about this as did I.  We also talked about the importance of the California aerospace industry to the entire aerospace industry in the U.S. and even globally.  We talked about disturbing trends in our national aerospace industry as well as in the California aerospace industry and the importance of events such as Space Day.  We talked about sequestration and its potential impact on space, both for DOD and NASA.  Our guests were asked about AIAA educational outreach to schools and different grades and near the end of our discussion, I asked if there was a process to undertake an outcome evaluation for the effectiveness of California Space Day and similar programs across the country.

If you have questions or comments, you can post them on The Space Show blog but if they pertain specifically to Space Day this year from March 12-13, please email Duane Hyland using duaneh@aiaa.org.

Dr. Doug Plata, Sunday, 2-24-13 February 25, 2013

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Dr. Doug Plata, Sunday, 2-24-13

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Guest:  Dr. Doug Plata.  Topics:  Taking action on one’s space advocacy ideas.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed Dr. Doug Plata to the program to discuss taking action on one’s space advocacy ideas and plans.  For examples of this, visit Dr. Plata’s  www.lunarcots.com for more information on his Lunar Cots idea and to sign his Lunar Cots petition which he talked about throughout our two hour program.  Dr. Plata said he was not around in the Apollo era plus he only started getting interested in space about 3 years ago.  I commented that he did not bring to the table disappointment and unrealized, perhaps even foolish expectations that many of us who were around during Apollo have experienced, including an expectation of lunar colonies and trips to Mars by now.  Doug had a clean slate to build upon, no legacy issues or unrealized expectations or anything like that.  Doug said his interests are to go BLEO but how?  Based on his analysis, he decided lunar development was first, researched Cislunar development, and developed his Lunar Cots idea based on successes for NASA public/private partnerships such as COTS.  From there, he developed the idea of the Lunar Cots Petition for people to sign and to eventually give NASA and other key policy makers.  He also mentioned that were he to advocate something, he felt it was his responsibility to technically know about the issues so he could accurately represent them to people.  He also said that one person, even with very small steps, could make a difference and he clearly walks that talk.  Part of his Lunar Cots idea addresses the need for a Cislunar Transportation System.  The first John called (from Atlanta) and raised the question about there being sufficient water ice on the Moon.  In his response, Doug referenced the LCROSS mission.

In our second segment, Doug took calls and listener emails.  The discussion about there being sufficient lunar water ice on the Moon continued.  He also talked about automatic equipment for lunar mining as compared to telerobotics.  Doug was asked who he talks with about Lunar Cots and the petition. We heard everyone, from the general public to space enthusiasts.  In talking about space advocacy in general, he said there were many paths and people had to find a path that made sense to them & then figure out a way to act upon their individual advocacy.  John called from Florida and asked about heavy lift and fuel depots.  Another Jon called from New Jersey to ask about doing something, anything, and the use of prizes. Even Charles Pooley got in on the discussion to talk about starting small and his Microlaunchers concept.  Toward the end, Doug was asked by a medical school student why he was not doing aerospace and human factors space medicine.  Also during this segment, both Doug and I talked extensively about finding something to do regarding one’s advocacy, even if it involved stepping out of one’s comfort zone and seemed to be too small an effort.  The reality is that to make a difference, even a small effort can be and is usually beneficial.

Please post your comments/questions on the Space Show blog.  You can email Doug through the address he provided on air or through me.

Elliot Pulham, The Space Foundation, Friday, 1-11-13 January 12, 2013

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Elliot Pulham, The Space Foundation, Friday, 1-11-13

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1928-BWB-2013-01-11.mp3

Guest:  Elliot Pulham.  Topics:  The Space Foundation’s White Paper, “Pioneering: Sustaining U.S. Leadership in Space.”  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.  We welcomed back Elliot Pulham, CEO of The Space Foundation (www.spacefoundation.org) to discuss their new White Paper, “Pioneering: Sustaining U.S. Leadership in Space.”  You can download both the Executive Summary and the actual paper at www.spacefoundation.org/programs/research-and-analysis/pioneering.  Our guest was with us for the first hour of the program.  During our time with him, we discussed the Pioneering white paper, the reason for it, and its approach to sustaining U.S. space leadership.  Mr. Pulham defined pioneering for us and when asked, we learned that it was broader and more inclusive than the more frequently used terms of settlement or colonization.  We talked about why NASA needed a purpose, one that was clearly defined and articulated throughout the organization, plus  the congressional and executive branches of government.  We talked about basic NASA management improvements plus a host of strategic and tactical recommendations to improve our civil space policy and program.  Listeners had many questions for our guest ranging from how reforms within NASA and our political systems would actually be implemented to needing general public support for Pioneering to become the NASA organizational purpose.  Other issues that came up included how to transition from one year funding battles to long term project financing.  The NewSpace segment came up as did space advocacy organizations with listeners asking if the advocacy proponents need to speak with a more unified voice than from their respective and often diverse positions.  In the last few minutes of our discussion, I asked our guest for the implementation process.  Here, we learned what the Space Foundation has been doing since going public with their policy proposals and their plans for continuing to push for the Pioneering purpose and program.  We also talked about the role each of us can play in pursuing this type of seed change within NASA, Congress, and the Executive Branch to implement space policy changes for the better.  We did return after the hour for a very short second segment in which I announced some date changes for programs given the start of my teaching my UND commercial space graduate class.

     If you have comments/questions for Mr. Pulham about the Space Foundation White Paper, please post them on The Space Show blog URL above.

Dr. Michael Simpson & Langdon Morris, Sunday, 12-9-12 December 10, 2012

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Dr. Michael Simpson & Langdon Morris, Sunday, 12-9-12

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Guests:  Dr. Michael Simpson, Langdon Morris.  Topics:  International space cooperation & the new ATWG book, “International Cooperation For The Development of Space.” Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. We welcomed Dr. Michael Simpson and Langdon Morris to the program to discuss the new & important book, “International Cooperation For The Development of Space.” The book is available on Amazon.com at www.amazon.com/International-Cooperation-Development-Space-1/dp/1478186232/ref=onegiantlea20 and via Kindle @ www.amazon.com/International-Cooperation-Development-Technology-ebook/dp/B00941YBAG/ref=onegiantlea20. If you purchase this book through Amazon, a donation will be made to The Space Show/OGLF.  As you will hear me say throughout our program, this book helps make a very strong case, especially to those outside the space community, for why space development is so important.  I strongly urge you to read this book and to share it with as many as possible.  As we started our discussion, Langdon Morris provided us with an overview of the book, including the purpose behind it, and the global mix of authors and viewpoints supporting international cooperative space development.  We talked with Dr. Simpson about his Chapter 2:  “Broadening The Base: Cooperation As A Springboard For New Participants In the Space Sector.”  We learned about new countries being involved in space development, their requirements for getting involved in space which include economic growth, and the niche specialty areas being pursued by these new players.  I asked about the absence of human spaceflight in the international cooperation discussion.  This prompted a most interesting exchange with our guests on the subject, one you do not want to miss.  Our guests provided us with great examples of real benefits flowing from international cooperative space development, including emergency services for disasters such as Katrina.  We took listener calls suggesting international financial participation in cooperative space projects might make high ticket items more plausible such as SLS or a Mars mission.  There was general agreement on this theory but as our guest pointed out, there still needs to be international agreement on the project and its management.  Another benefit of international cooperation points to project stability over time.
      In our second segment, Doug called in to ask about a two track system consisting of a public sector track and a second track for public/private partnerships.  Our guests suggested the public/private direction would be more viable. Don’t miss their explanation for this approach.  We talked about competition as compared to international cooperation. Our guests were also asked about the impact of ITAR on U.S. international cooperation.  We talked about the Chinese space program and our guests were asked about the NewSpace segment.
      Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can email our guests through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Dr. Edythe Weeks, Tuesday, 11-20-12 November 21, 2012

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Dr. Edythe Weeks, Tuesday, 11-20-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1897-BWB-2012-11-20.mp3

Guest:  Dr Edythe (Edy) Weeks.  Topics: We discussed her book, various commercial space development models, benefit sharing & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. We welcomed Dr. Edythe (Edy) Weeks to the program to discuss her book, “Outer Space Development, International Relations and Space Law: A Method for Elucidating Seeds.” You can buy her book on Amazon & if you use the following URL, Amazon will contribute to The Space Show/OGLF: www.amazon.com/Outer-Space-Development-International-Relations/dp/1443839655/ref=onegiantlea20.  During our first segment of this 2.5 hour discussion, Dr. Weeks introduced us to her book and the need to understand space development from an international relations perspective.  We talked about how the industry has evolved over the last 20+ years, innovations such as citizen science suborbital missions, new commercial players, & innovative business ideas such as asteroid mining.  Dr. Weeks talked extensively about the need for an ideological shift toward space throughout the non-space population & within our global educational systems.  When Todd from San Diego emailed Edy as to how to create the ideological shift, that opened a discussion on how such shifts are created.  It was very interesting that one of the major examples cited by our guest included the growth & popularity of tattoos.  This sparked quite a conversation, some of it laced with humor, lots of fun, but also relevant points to our discussion.  As our segment was ending, our guest talked about the need to include other perspectives in the space benefits, those coming from outside the STEM fields.
     In our second & very long segment, I opened up asking Edy about the ideas in her book in support of benefit sharing & the Common Heritage of Mankind concepts found in some of the U.N. space treaties.  This discussion prevailed for the balance of our program as our guest is looking for new and different business & social models for space to be more inclusive which she believes will lead to more space commerce.  I took a challenging & argumentative position throughout most of the discussion in explaining why most in the NewSpace and commercial space industries do not support benefit sharing and why. We talked about the need for property rights & why such rights would facilitate commercial development.  Dr. Weeks was not supportive of the property rights positions, looking more for space development to accomplish much needed social change and reform around the world. Also, she made the case that property rights were not needed nor supported by the treaties & their working papers. Dr. Weeks did clarify her position regarding capitalism, the U.S., commercial space companies & benefit sharing ideas so don’t miss her clarification. Let us know your thoughts on our blog. Tax revenues were discussed but as you will hear, our guest focuses on actual benefit sharing beyond tax payments to help create wealth for everyone, including those that would be the recipient of the benefit sharing programs & the commercial space business.  We talked about voluntary charitable giving as compared to mandatory or government required giving through benefit sharing.  I cited Microsoft & Google models for why private sector giving with the pursuit of business unfettered by government induced benefit sharing is better.  Tim called in to express his very strong views in support of the private sector & his opposition to reallocation of resources regardless of how it is termed by either government or the UN.  Edy referenced the OST & the Moon Treaty in making her points, making the case that outer space resources belong to everyone, not just the developer.  While we did use an outrageously successful multi-trillion dollar model for our discussion of the space mining example, the idea was made that the company could easily afford to “give” a percentage to the benefit sharing process, over & above taxes, assuming the company was profitable, even at more realistic levels.  Our guest was very articulate in presenting her views & ideas, plus her book does a very good job of comprehensively dealing with what we just barely had time to scratch during our program.  For more information, check out Edy’s blog and YouTube video:  www.youtube.com/watch?v=okyVWJglxow & http://blogs.webster.edu/globalthinking/blog/2012/07/16/outer-space-development-is-subject-of-new-book-by-hpirs-edythe-weeks/#more-2802.
     Please post all comments/questions about this discussion on The Space Show blog.  I will bring all comments to the attention of Dr. Weeks on a regular basis.

Jason Andrews, Monday, 11-5-12 November 6, 2012

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Jason Andrews, Monday, 11-5-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1888-BWB-2012-11-05.mp3

Guest:  Jason Andrews.  Topics:  Cubesat, Nanosat integration, launch services, Andrew Space, Spaceflight & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. We welcomed back Jason Andrews to update us on both Andrews Space and Spaceflight.  You can follow along on the respective websites, http://andrews-space.com & www.spaceflightservices.com Jason was with us for one hour to discuss cubesat and nanosat payload integration, the services offered by Andrews Space and Spaceflight for small satellite launchers and related issues.  Spaceflight does publish their price list on their website and we did talk about their pricing.  Check it out at http://spaceflightservices.com/pricing-plans. We discussed market and financing conditions, the use of international launchers, integrating international payloads, ITAR, U.S. launchers and the possibility of using either Chinese or Indian launchers.  Jason went through their turnkey services offered with Spaceflight, then we talked about hardware and the integration of Andrews Space with Spaceflight.  Listeners asked lots of questions, including one about a sustainable lunar colony.  Other questions addressed the status of a secondary payload and general ride sharing terms, primary payload obligations and considerations, and the potential need for a dedicated small launcher.  Insurance was also talked about and included issues concerning self-insurance to buying insurance in the marketplace.  Many with payloads less than $1 million do opt for being self-insured.  Another issue talked about concerned secondary payload compatibility with the primary payload and the required safety audit for the secondary payload.  In talking about Andrews Space, Jason told us about the SHERPA Space Tug and the larger spacecraft using the ESPA Ring which closes the gap between a 3 kilo and 180 gram spacecraft. As our discussion with Jason ended, he talked about hiring opportunities for both companies and the availability of internships.
     In our brief second segment, I went over The Space Show schedule this week as programming has been cancelled for Tuesday due to wanting to watch election results and on Friday due to my probable jury duty.  I urge you to check the website newsletter Wednesday evening and then again Thursday evening because if my jury duty is cancelled, I will call up the scheduled Friday program and you will find out about it via the website newsletter.
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