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Open Lines, Tuesday, 12-11-12 December 12, 2012

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Open Lines, Tuesday, 12-11-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1912-BWB-2012-12-11.mp3

Guest:  Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  Current events in space policy, NASA, DOD, & U.S. economic issues impacting space.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. Welcome to our December 2012 Open Lines show.  As Open Lines programs go, this was a fairly quiet program.  I opened with a list of possible discussion topics and our first call dealt with one of the topics, the North Korean missile launch. Mike called in to update us on the latest with the launch and then he continued to give us updates during the program to the point of confirming orbital insertion for its satellite.  He also reported a successful 3 stage rocket launch for the N. Koreans.  We talked about the significance of the launch, how it surprised our intelligence services and more. We got an email from Darren in Canada telling us he liked the “passionate exchange between Zimmerman and me from the day before as that exchange was also one of the topics I suggested for discussion. After a short break, we took a call from John in Atlanta who picked up from the night before with our science fiction movie discussion.  We talked more about Forbidden Planet and John referenced the original War of the Worlds movie. John also talked about the UFO subject in the context of our sci-fi movie discussion, then he referenced the op-ed by Dr. Zubrin about Mars Sample Return missions and why Dr. Zubrin was not supportive of the EML2 mission.  From here, we went to the SLS subject and knowing John to be a strong supporter of the project, I asked him if he thought the project would be cancelled and when.  John suggested it might be slowed down before it was cancelled outright.  After another break, I mentioned the X-37B successful USAF launch and responded to two emails. One was about my Hotel Mars John Batchelor Show segments and the other asked me to explain how and why I connect the dots regarding our economic problems in the country to possible adverse impact on NASA and even in the private capital markets.  This opened the door for me to do a mini rant/lecture on how I see economics and why I connect these dots.  If you disagree, do post on the blog and share your information and perspective with us all.  Disagreement is always wanted and respected on The Space Show.  Next, Charles called in and talked about the doomed NASA Nanosat Challenge. He compared it to XPrize which he believes set the model and tone for such prizes. Charles next flung barbs at NASA, especially for the JWST, the ISS, & SLS.  At one point, he said NASA was “like a beached whale!”  Charles told us about Meetups in Las Vegas and on the national scene & he provided a brief update on the N-Prize contest.

If you have comments/questions about this OL program, do post them on The Space Show blog.  You can reach any of the callers through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Monday, 12-10-12 December 11, 2012

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Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Monday, 12-10-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1911-BWB-2012-12-10.mp3

Guest:  Robert (Bob) Zimmerman.  Topics:  Apollo 8, launch industry, HSF, SLS, Mars missions, NASA budget, & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. We welcomed Bob Zimmerman back to the program to summarize space for 2012, to look forward to space activities in 2013, and as you will hear, to talk about some specific issues such as SLS and the need for heavy lift.  Bob started the discussion talking about Apollo 8 as we approach Christmas 2012.  He told us his famous book, “Genesis: The Story of Apollo 8: The First Manned Mission to Another World” has been released in ebook format. If you buy it on Amazon using the URL provided, Amazon will make a donation to The Space Show/OGL: www.amazon.com/Genesis-Apollo-Mission-Another-ebook/dp/B00A1EZJ6U/ref=onegiantlea20. Bob outlined two tracks for discussion, the launch industry and manned spaceflight exploration.  For the launch industry, he talked about the influence of SpaceX in lowering launch costs & what it means for other launchers in competing in pricing & market share.  He also talked about negotiation issues over the continued use of the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan. We discussed secondary payloads, Stratolaunch, & more.  The second track involving manned space exploration, Bob talked about it from the government perspective & that of the private sector.  He also brought up the recent news regarding the new Golden Spike venture on which he had much to say.  Our first caller was from Terry asking about the NASA Mars program, James Webb & SLS.  Bob had much to say about the JWST as well as SLS, NASA astrophysics, & SLS costs.  Terry wanted to know when Bob thought SLS would be cancelled. This discussion prompted more than a passionate exchange by Bob and me regarding heavy lift, rocket mission analysis, & more.  We then paused for our overdue break.
     Leading off the second segment, we took a call from Doug in S. California but had audio issues on his phone line. We then talked about the SpaceX mission delay to March 2013.  Tim called to talk about launch rate regardless of the size of the vehicle.  He also talked about Golden Spike & a potential space tug.  He asked Bob about Skylon.  We switched topics to get updates from Bob regarding the suborbital companies. Bob talked about Virgin Galactic & powered flight tests.  He also had some things to say about Dream Chaser and XCOR.  I asked Bob about using drones on Mars based on comments I’ve received from listeners.  Near the end, I brought up a special film showing & lecture on the 1956 classic “Forbidden Planet” that I saw this past Saturday. We talked about the significance of this movie & Bob brought in the concept of human spirit, vision, & the desire for interplanetary travel even before the days of NASA or Sputnik.  I talked about the two award winning speakers from Lucas Film regarding the movie & then the surprise visit after the film by Robby the Robot, the original Robby from the film. To end our program, Bob gave us an outline of what to look for in the first quarter of 2013 for space events.
     Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  Check out Bob’s blog, http://behindtheblack.com.
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