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Dr. Michael Simpson & Langdon Morris, Sunday, 12-9-12 December 10, 2012

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Dr. Michael Simpson & Langdon Morris, Sunday, 12-9-12




Guests:  Dr. Michael Simpson, Langdon Morris.  Topics:  International space cooperation & the new ATWG book, “International Cooperation For The Development of Space.” Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog,
http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com
. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. We welcomed Dr. Michael Simpson and Langdon Morris to the program to discuss the new & important book, “International Cooperation For The Development of Space.” The book is available on Amazon.com at www.amazon.com/International-Cooperation-Development-Space-1/dp/1478186232/ref=onegiantlea20 and via Kindle @ www.amazon.com/International-Cooperation-Development-Technology-ebook/dp/B00941YBAG/ref=onegiantlea20. If you purchase this book through Amazon, a donation will be made to The Space Show/OGLF.  As you will hear me say throughout our program, this book helps make a very strong case, especially to those outside the space community, for why space development is so important.  I strongly urge you to read this book and to share it with as many as possible.  As we started our discussion, Langdon Morris provided us with an overview of the book, including the purpose behind it, and the global mix of authors and viewpoints supporting international cooperative space development.  We talked with Dr. Simpson about his Chapter 2:  “Broadening The Base: Cooperation As A Springboard For New Participants In the Space Sector.”  We learned about new countries being involved in space development, their requirements for getting involved in space which include economic growth, and the niche specialty areas being pursued by these new players.  I asked about the absence of human spaceflight in the international cooperation discussion.  This prompted a most interesting exchange with our guests on the subject, one you do not want to miss.  Our guests provided us with great examples of real benefits flowing from international cooperative space development, including emergency services for disasters such as Katrina.  We took listener calls suggesting international financial participation in cooperative space projects might make high ticket items more plausible such as SLS or a Mars mission.  There was general agreement on this theory but as our guest pointed out, there still needs to be international agreement on the project and its management.  Another benefit of international cooperation points to project stability over time.
      In our second segment, Doug called in to ask about a two track system consisting of a public sector track and a second track for public/private partnerships.  Our guests suggested the public/private direction would be more viable. Don’t miss their explanation for this approach.  We talked about competition as compared to international cooperation. Our guests were also asked about the impact of ITAR on U.S. international cooperation.  We talked about the Chinese space program and our guests were asked about the NewSpace segment.
      Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can email our guests through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Space Show-SWF Webinar, On-Orbit Satellite Servicing, Sunday, 8-19-12 August 20, 2012

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Space Show-SWF Webinar, On-Orbit Satellite Servicing, Sunday, 8-19-12





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Guests:  Brian Weeden, Richard DalBello, Major General, USAF (Retired) James B. Armor, Jr..  This is a SWF sponsored webinar addressing issues related to the on-orbit servicing of satellites.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, & discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, & any discussion must be relevant & applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS A TWO HOUR WEBINAR PRODUCTION SPONSORED BY THE SECURE WORLD FOUNDATION (SWF).  YOU CAN VIEW THIS WEBINAR AT
https://vimeo.com/channels/thespaceshow
.  We welcomed Brian Weeden, Richard DalBello, & Major General, USAF (Retired) James B. Armor, Jr. to the program for an in-depth discussion of on-orbit satellite servicing. This is a new business/industry that is emerging with great interest from governments, the satellite industry, & many other interested parties.  During our first webinar hour, our guests explained satellite on-orbit servicing, why the interest in it, the values on the table, & the economics behind this developing industry.  We heard from the perspective of the satellite operator with Mr. DalBello, from General Armor with the perspective of a company wanting to provide these services plus what they are commercially doing now in this emerging industry.  Gen. Armor talked about the new ATK venture for satellite repair, Vivisat (www.vivisat.com).  He was followed by Mr. Weeden who connected the dots with us regarding the big picture implications for security, stability, & policy.  We talked about liability issues, insurance, & LEO & GEO satellites in terms of their respective economic value & lifespan.  A listener asked about GPS satellites, launch costs, & competition here & abroad.  In fact, Brian mentioned several projects outside the US with the Canadians, Germans, & JAXA.  Toward the end of the first hour, caller Jack asked about testing & reliability, wondering if repairing satellites would reduce reliability engineering & testing on the ground, thus lowering the satellite’s cost given the possibility of on-orbit repair.  Ben followed asking if satellites having a longer life would be sold, comparing this potential to selling real estate once a property has been fully depreciated.

In our webinar second hour, Brian described the DARPA Phoenix Satellite Service project, http://www.darpa.mil/our_work/tto/programs/phoenix.aspx.  The issue of satellite abandonment came up & as you will hear, there is no way to abandon any object in space.  Another issue in this segment was space situational awareness (SSA).  We talked about SSA in LEO, with the new entrepreneurial small satellite companies doing LEO ventures, & the implication of this new industry for launching to & operating in GEO.  Later in this segment, we learned that there was no commercial incentive to address the space debris issue. Don’t miss the analysis behind this statement as its important in understanding the space debris issue.  A listener asked Richard about launch vehicle insurance & premiums, specifically for the Falcon 9.  Also in this segment we talked about the NASA satellite servicing mission, the Restore Mission (http://ssco.gsfc.nasa.gov/robotic_servicing_mission.html).  As our webinar drew to a close, we addressed the importance of a STEM education for our young students & the exciting space projects that today’s students will get to do in their careers. Everyone’s closing comments reflected the future orientation & focus for this evolving industry.

Please post your comments/questions on the blog.  If you want to email our guests, send your note to me & I will forward it for you.

 

Brian Weeden, Friday, 8-10-12 August 10, 2012

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Brian Weeden, Friday, 8-10-12




Guest:  Brian Weeden.  Topics:  Economics for LEO, GEO, space debris mitigation, & space sustainability.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog,
http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com
. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed Brian Weeden back to the program to discuss space economics per his June 4, 2012 Space Review article, “The economics of space sustainability.”  You can read this article by visiting www.thespacereview.com/article/2093/1. I strongly recommend you read the article prior to listening to our discussion.  In our first segment, Brian spent time with us defining important terms including space as a global commons, space as a common-pool resource, GEO and LEO satellite usage, space debris regions, the Kessler Syndrome, good rivalrous, economic exclusion, economic non-exclusion, private goods, public goods and more.  Brian makes the valid point that in understanding how both GEO and LEO have been viewed and treated, we have a partial explanation of why it has been and still is so challenging to do something about the growing debris problem.  In Brian’s Space Review paper and in our discussion, he takes us to a point where we can view LEO and Geo differently than the more normal way of looking at space, economics, and debris issues. We came to view space not as a global commons but more as a common-pool resource.  From this vantage point, we can look at policy and programs that influence behavior toward a desired objective. He cited as an example the Chinese anti-satellite test that caused so much debris several years ago but told us that the test was repeated in 2010 without causing debris.  Listen to his explanation of this in the second part of our discussion.
     In the second segment, we talked about the value of both LEO and GEO.  All space is valued at $290 billion.  $110 billion is assigned to space services and related things.  The total insured value of GEO is around $20 billion but the insured value of LEO is only $1.4 billion.  He explained why this is so and the impact it has have on understanding the economics of space development and debris mitigation.  At one point in the discussion in response to a question, he talked about the pain threshold of the company or country.  Don’t miss this discussion.  Later in the segment, Brian introduced us to game theory and information economics as we continued to explore space economics.  Near the end of our program, we talked about the European Code of Conduct for Outer Space, how it might or might not become law in the U.S., and the realization that there must be more benefits flowing to the space companies and nations for dealing with debris than the costs, liabilities, and challenges.
     Please post your comments on the blog. If you want to email Brian Weeden, you can find his address on the SWF website or you can send it to me and I will forward it.

Dr. Dwayne Day, Wednesday, 11-23-11 November 23, 2011

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Dr. Dwayne Day, Wednesday, 11-23-11

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

 



Guest:  Dr. Dwayne Day.  Topics:  The future of the U.S. astronaut corps & the Chinese space program & intentions.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, & discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog,
http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com
.  Comments, questions, & any discussion must be relevant & applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at
http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign
. We welcomed Dr. Day back to the show to discuss the NRC/National Academies report he directed, “Preparing for the High Frontier: The Role & Training of NASA Astronauts in the Post-Space Shuttle Era.”  You can download this report in .pdf format for free:
http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=13227
.  Later in the program, Dr. Day talked about the Chinese space program based on his Space Review article from Nov. 14, 2011, “Staring into the eyes of the Dragon ( www.thespacereview.com/article/1970/1)”.  We started our discussion talking about the astronaut corps of the future.  Dr. Day told us about the study panel members,  their methodology, their visit to JSC in Houston to see the training facilities, & their discussions with many of the commercial companies working on CCDEV. Their initial assumptions that were proven wrong were that NASA had too many astronauts & the use of the T-38 were not that vital to the program. They discovered that the astronaut corps had already been downsized. Dwayne provided us with a chart which is on the blog for this program showing the astronaut corps population going back to 1959 projected to 2016.  The panel looked at three issues at the start of their task: The future role of the corps & its size; Training facilities & needs post shuttle; Training aircraft such as the T-38 for spaceflight readiness issues.  During this segment, Dr. Day discussed their work & conclusions in detail.  Several questions were about comparing the U.S. astronaut program with the Russians & the training involved with astronauts from other countries.  Many listeners wanted to know about the role of commercial launch providers & even if there might be a private astronaut corps.  One of the things Dr. Day said was that two commercial astronaut models were being examined by NASA, the rental car model & the “we are in charge” model.  He also talked about the impact on the program, planning, & development of uncertainty.  As for the T-38s, the conclusion was that they were needed for real time space situational awareness training & decision making. In our second segment, Dwayne took a few New Space focused questions.  He mentioned talking to Space X & other companies plus what his panel heard as to their suggestions for the astronaut corps.  Later, we talked about NRC reports in general, avoiding conflict of interest, & taxpayer value. A listener from Canada asked about the possibility of a private astronaut corp returning to the Moon before government astronauts. This led to a discussion about space enthusiasts & reality checks.  For the balance, we talked about the Chinese program.  Here, Dr. Day broke it down between human spaceflight & their defense, science & image satellite programs. He also talked about Chinese intentions.  I urge you to read his excellent Space Review article referenced above.  For 2012, I will do my best to offer Space Show listeners programming on the Chinese program, including webinar panel discussions, as it is important for us to understand as much as possible about the Chinese program.  Post comments & questions on the blog URL above.  You can email Dr. Day at zirconici1@cox.net.  If you do email him, please copy me so I can learn from the exchange.

 

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