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Bruce Pittman, Monday, 10-13-14 October 14, 2014

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Bruce Pittman, Monday, 10-13-14

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Guest:  Bruce Pittman.  Topics:  The emerging commercial space industry and related topics.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Bruce Pittman back to the show to discuss the emerging commercial space industry. During the first segment of our 90 minute program Bruce said this was the most exciting time every for commercial space, certain in his 30 plus year career.  He talked about there being a paradigm shift underway, NASA challenges and the progress made in just five short years.  He cited examples with COTS, commercial payloads to the ISS, SpaceX, and lots of smaller companies working with small satellites.  Other examples included the 3D printer on the ISS, the growth of spaceports, the industry spreading out into multiple states, and investment capital coming to the industry.  I asked about human spaceflight (HSF) and he said it was more challenging and demanding but was optimistic that launch costs would come down, especially if reusability enters the market.  Reusability would greatly assist in bringing more commercial options to the table even for HSF.  Jerome in the UK emailed to ask about a commercial space industry outside the U.S.  Both Bruce and I commented on Jerome’s question.  Harry emailed Bruce to inquire if going public was essential for pushing the emerging commercial space industry forward.  Bruce was also asked what excited him the most in the industry.  Listen to his choices. I asked our guest if he saw SLS as an asset to the emerging commercial space industry, being neutral, or being a detriment.  He believes there will be synergistic enhancements for both SLS and the commercial space industry through the development of SLS.  Don’t miss his full comments. Bruce was asked about commercial space ventures being able to finally close a business case and having more than just government as the customer.  Allison emailed us asking Bruce to define paradigm shift.  This also proved an interesting discussion.  Near the end of the segment, our guest was asked bout NEOs and commercial opportunities.  We also talked about two NASA papers in this segment.  The first, “Pioneering Space: NASA’s Next Steps on the Path to Mars” from May 29, 2014 can be downloaded at http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/files/Pioneering-space-final-052914b.pdf.  The second paper, “Emerging Space:  The Evolving Landscape of 21st Century American Spaceflight,” can be downloaded at http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/files/Emerging_Space_Report.pdf.  Just before the break, Paul asked about fuel depots for the commercial space industry.

In our second segment, we started talking about space settlement, pioneering, and space exploration.  Bruce explained the differences with pioneering making it possible to have a permanent presence in space by getting in place needed infrastructure and the basics for living in space.  Space settlement would be established after pioneering.  Exploring goes forth to find out what is out there and to return to tell about it.  A listener asked if going to the Moon was a pioneering step on the way to Martian settlement.  Later, Bruce said that pioneering will be driven by economics. In this segment, we also talked about property rights and benefit sharing plus the impact these two issues might have on the emerging commercial space industry.  Risk averseness came up as well.  As we were drawing to a close, Bruce mentioned how all of the industry was in a transitional period, including traditional aerospace.  He suggested things to look for over the coming months included more commercial activities on the ISS, the upcoming Bigelow module for the ISS, & the Google Lunar XPrize.  In closing, we talked about Silicon Valley and the industry as well as the lowering of barriers to entry for emerging commercial space companies.  Bruce also mentioned the Next Giant Leap Conference in Hawaii, Nov. 9-13, 2014.  For more information, see http://2014giantleap.aerospacehawaii.info.

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Leland Melvin, Friday, 10-3-14 October 4, 2014

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Leland Melvin, Friday, 10-3-14

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Guest:  Leland Melvin.  Topics:  Spaceship Earth Grant contest, The Overview Effect, space exploration, STEM.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed former NASA astronaut Leland Melvin to the program to discuss Spaceship Earth Grants (SEG) (www.spaceshipearthgrants.com) as Leland is the president of the organization.  This program was a one hour show so there was no break as we had just one segment.  Mr. Melvin started out by telling us about SEG which he said was formed to do good in the world.  He talked about their contest for raising money to send people to space so that they will experience an orbital shift in perception (The Overview Effect) and upon return, do work and good with this new perspective of Earth.  They want this new perspective shared with others for the benefit of all.  He talked about the application for the contest and the fee structure which you will find fully explained on their website so see the above URL.  Leland explained that this was a crowd funding program though not like others that use specific crowd funding program such as Kickstarter or Indiegogo.  We also learned from a listener question that the contest winners will choose their own carrier for going to space and will need to comply with the rules & conditions set by that particular carrier.  Later, he mentioned that they would have a spaceflight training academy but details would not be announced until later in October.  The contest involves paying a fee which is on a sliding scale, submitting a video and writing an essay on why you want to go space.  I asked our guest why the average person needs to go to space.  Leland spent some time responding to this question so don’t miss this crucial discussion.  Leland was asked if students on a global bases seemed interested & inspired by space when he spoke to them.  He said yes & told us a great story about what happened with a Brooklyn student who slept through his talk.  We talked about international space cooperation, specifically with the Russians even when our non-space relationship with Russia was at a low point.  Regarding their contest, Leland talked about some of the benefits early adopters get by filling out an application, submitting the video, essay, and fee.  A listener asked if they would market their space flights for adventure as do the space tourism companies or are they only going after the change in perspective & Overview Effect benefits.  I asked Leland if he had experienced the Overview Effect on his two Atlantis flights. The same question was asked about his astronaut peers.  Leland had much to say in response to this question because when he went to space, he was not familiar with the Overview Effect but told us that what he experienced was the Overview Effect without putting a name to it.  Later in the program, we discussed SEG being founded on the principles of Muhammad Yunis, then Leland was asked by Kristin if SEG would focus on space settlement as well as tourism.  We learned that the organization was accepting applications from 156 countries.  In his summary, our guest talked about civilizations coming together through space, the orbital shift in perspective by just being in space, and the need to fund STEM programs/students.

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Dr. Rick Linnehan, Friday, 8-22-14 August 23, 2014

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Dr. Rick Linnehan, Friday, 8-22-14

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Guest:  Dr. Rick Linnehan, NASA Astronaut; Topics:  Animals in space, human long duration spaceflight.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed NASA Astronaut Dr. Rick Linnehan to the program to discuss animals and their place in space in history, the present, and the future, plus human concerns for long duration spaceflight.  During this one hour program, we stared off by asking Dr. Linnehan for an overview of the role played by animals in space, including looking to the future for animals for agriculture, research pathology work, comfort, & other purposes.  We talked about microgravity issues and countermeasures, then I asked specifically about taking chickens to Mars for feed purposes.  Our guest talked about the effect of microgravity on chickens and the egg laying process.  He said a few times that while we might likely evolve over many years, decades or even longer to having a larger role for animals in space, most of the ideas and concepts today are pie in the sky.  We talked about some of the animals that had been and are in space including lab rodents, fruit flies, some small fish and others.  Our guest talked about the space acclimation process for animals, including the small fish, and we learned that in many instances the animals acclimate to microgravity faster than humans.  Our guest mentioned the need for advanced propulsion for long duration human spaceflight and suggested that Mars was on the edge of the possible using chemical rockets.  Rick mentioned some of the other human factors issues such as radiation and psychological challenges.  We also discussed astronaut exercise routines and the countermeasure exercise equipment currently being used with efforts underway to redesign the equipment to be more effective and lighter.  Several questions came up about private sector humans to Mars missions and crew health.  When asked if we could do a humans to Mars mission now or by the early 2020s, our guest said yes but listen to the details of this discussion.  Also, with regards to the private astronaut missions to Mars or elsewhere, several questions arose about the conditioning of the private astronaut crew, what microgravity countermeasures and exercise equipment they would have on board, what routines they would strictly follow and more.  Our guest was mostly referring to space agency astronauts in terms of our readiness to do human spaceflight to Mars now or the very near future.  He was unable to address private astronaut missions or their details because they are unknown.  We did talk about gravity and the absence of it in spaceflight, both for humans and animals.  Advanced propulsion questions and comments kept coming up during the entire show. At one point, I asked how essential advanced propulsion was for long duration human spaceflight and he said there would be no long duration spaceflight without.  Listen for the details regarding his opinion on this issue. Doug called to ask about bacteria, DNA, cat implants and more.  Artificial insemination came up with regards to surrogate species.  Doug also raised questions about the size for a minimum viable population.  After Doug’s call, I asked what our guest thought the priorities should be for Mars human spaceflight.  He listed advanced propulsion technology as first followed by human quality of life issues which he described for us.  I also asked questions about crew compatibility for psychological reasons as well as the probable command structure for the crew on a long duration human spaceflight.  One listener asked Dr. Linnehan about the differences in a zoo vet as compared to the typical vet we use for our dogs and cats.  Larry emailed in to ask if an animal had ever been on a space walk.  Rick said not his knowledge, talked about the need for an animal EVA suit of which there are none, and when I asked about taking an animal with an astronaut on an EVA for research purposes, he explained why that was impractical.  The microgravity simulation work in the NASA neutral buoyancy pool came up and our guest said that for about every hour he spends on an EVA, he would have spend about 12 hours in the pool.  Near the end of our hour long discussion, Jack emailed in for the best goals for human space flight.  Our guest suggested evolving stage by stage with cislunar, La Grange points, lunar settlement and out further and further to other destinations as our capabilities and technology improved.  B John had emailed in a few questions about microbes and the sea plankton announced by the Russians as existing on the outside of the ISS.  While we discussed these questions earlier in the show, near the end I asked our guest his question about microbes traveling greater distances in space than humans have and if our missions that have entered interstellar space carry microbes with them.  In his summary, Dr. Linnehan stressed the importance of continuing to explore space, to leave our planet, set up settlements, and to do what we can to keep pressure on the policy makers as we know the importance of space development and exploration.  He supports the private/commercial efforts and missions and even suggested he would do a one way Mars trip to help open up a Martial settlement.

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ISDC 2014, Monday, 4-28-14 April 29, 2014

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ISDC 2014, Monday, 4-28-14

Featuring John Spencer and Dr. Nicola Sarzi-Amade

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Guests:  Dr. Nicola Sarzi-Amade, John Spencer.  Topics:  ISDC 2014 Space Conference, speakers, tracks, events, and programs.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Nicola Sarzi-Amade and John Spencer to the program to discuss this year’s ISDC 2014 conference to be held at the Los Angeles Sheraton Gateway Hotel from May 14-18, 2014.  The theme of this years conference is “A Space Renaissance.”  For more information and to follow our one hour discussion in one segment, visit http://www.isdc.nss.org/2014.  We started our discussion with John setting the stage for ISDC 2014 and today’s rapidly evolving space industry.  Nicola talked about the 11 tracks which are all detailed on the ISDC website. For full information about the tracks, panels, and track speakers & coordinators, see http://isdc.nss.org/2014/tracks.html.  As you will hear, some tracks go for the entire length of the conference, others only for a day or two.  Nicola highlighted many of the speakers, track c-chairs, & more. Both our guests stressed the Los Angeles benefits including connections to the film industry and terrific sites to see, several of which are available on ISDC special tours including SpaceX, JPL, and the Griffith Observatory.  Nicola also talked about dinner and lunch speakers as well as the morning keynote speakers.  Note that while keynotes are in progress, there are no competing tracks going on at the same time.  We also talked about awards going to Elon Musk and Gwynne Shotwell.  Check out the featured speakers at http://isdc.nss.org/2014/speakers-vip.html and the meal & plenary speakers at http://isdc.nss.org/2014/speakers-meals.html.  Conference registration has many options from full conference registration to daily registration.  Also, hotel registration is available through the ISDC website. We also learned that the overflow hotel is almost adjacent to the Sheraton Gateway but if you register early, you can still get the Sheraton Gateway at the conference rate.  our guests highlighted some of the special areas of expertise for many guests.  For example, when talking about Tabor, John discussed Inspiration Mars and the World View program. Near the end, we learned that there is an ISDC Meet UP at the end of the conference Sunday afternoon.  If you can stay, don’t miss this event.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog.  You can reach John or Nicola through me.

Adam Brinckerhoff, Friday, 3-28-14 March 29, 2014

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Adam Brinckerhoff, Friday, 3-28-14

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Guest:  Adam Brinckerhoff.  Topics:  SpaceUnited & space missions to benefit humanity.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Adam Brinckerhoff to discuss SpaceUnited (www.spaceunited.org).  During the first segment of our 1 hour 34 minute program, Mr. Brinckerhoff introduced us to SpaceUnited and told us about their three main programs, ExploraLab, Home-1, and Shim-1.  To learn more about these innovative participatory space programs, visit http://spaceunited.org/missions and click on each specific mission.  ExploraLab is a program where you can create your own experiment, fly it to the stratosphere in a balloon & have it returned to you.  Home-1, the Human Optimized Modular Environment program, seeks to improve human life by improving housing with technologies that are also beneficial off Earth.  The SHIM-1progject, the Satellite Humanitarian Imagery Mission, strives to purchase real-time and archive satellite photos for humanitarian efforts including emergency relief organizations and international human rights watchdogs.  During this segment, Adam explained how these programs work, how they are funded, and how the benefits are shared with those designated to receive the benefits.  SpaceUnited is a nonprofit organization that not only uses space technology, it implements space missions such as the three programs described above.  Listeners asked several email questions to explain the programs and also to inquire as to possible future programs.  Adam mentioned that for now, everyone associated with SpaceUnited was on a volunteer basis but that would change when warranted by company operations and growth.

In the second segment, questions about space tourism & other technologies came up.  Adam talked about a future program to bring internet service to poor nations around the world via satellite.  He said this was a long term goal for the company.  A listener email asked him to compare and contrast SpaceUnited plans with those of Facebook & Google to deliver worldwide wifi.  Later in the segment, we talked about the SpaceUnited blog and their use of Google + hangouts for a weekly interview show each Tuesday at 11:30 AM Mountain time.  These sessions cover topics such as asteroid mining, nanosat issues and more.  To find out more about these half hour programs, visit http://spaceunited.org/blog.  Later, we talked about their store and his offer to listeners to win an IPhone case over the next two weeks.  You can see the cases at http://www.cafepress.com/spaceunited/10837486.  Another product they offer is the mushroom kit (http://spaceunited.org/back-to-the-roots).  As we were nearing the end of our discussion, we talked about the impressive SpaceUnited Board of Advisors and Board of Directors, plus I asked him for their 3-5 year plan for growth and new projects.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  You can contact Adam through me or use the Contact button in the upper right corner of their home page.

Chuck McMurray, Tuesday, 1-28-14 January 29, 2014

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Chuck McMurray, Tuesday, 1-28-14

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Guest:  Chuck McMurray.  Topics:  Youth Rover Challenge and other Mars Society educational and Mars simulation programs.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Chuck McMurray, the Mars Society Deputy Director of Education, to the program to discuss the new Youth Rover Challenge program plus other Mars Society projects and programs.  During our 1 hour six minute discussion, Chuck explained the Youth Rover Challenge (YRC) to us nothing that this is the inaugural year for the program.  Visit their website for more information, www.youthrover.com.  The YRC program uses Lego rover kits described on the website and is divided into two groups starting with the 5th grade through high school.  There is still time to enter as registration closes on Friday, Feb. 7.  For more information, use chuck@youthrover.com.  In addition to discussing the YRC, we talked about the very successful University Rover Challenge which we talk about on TSS each year.  We went over other Mars Society programs, the annual convention, and ideas for an online adult education Why Mars program.  Another program we featured was the Space Exploration Alliance Legislative Blitz which I recommend.  You can find out more about this on the Mars Society website or www.spaceexplorationalliance.org/blitz.  We spoke about other programs as well including the MDRS, F Mars, and submitting papers for the annual conference which will be held near NASA JSC this year: www.marssociety.org/a/marssociety.org/www/conventions/2014.  Chuck is also the host for the Mars Society Red Planet Radio which we talked about as well.  This is a quarterly podcast program featuring guests and topics particular to Mars.  Chuck fielded many email questions during the show, including asking about Inspiration Mars and Mars One.  Chuck had much to say about both project.

If you have comments/questions, please post them on TSS blog above.  You can email Chuck McMurray using the address listed above in this summary.

Dr. Taylor Dark, Tuesday, 11-5-13 November 6, 2013

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Dr. Taylor Dark, Tuesday, 11-5-13

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Guest:  Dr. Taylor Dark.   Topics:  Space advocacy per his chapter “Reclaiming The Future: Space Advocacy And The Idea Of Progress.”  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Dr. Taylor Dark to the program to discuss his chapter on space advocacy, “Reclaiming The Future: Space Advocacy And The Idea Of Progress.” Dr. Dark’s chapter appeared in a NASA book around 2007, The Societal Impact of Spaceflight.  The .pdf version is a free download at http://history.nasa.gov/sp4801-part1.pdf.  You can read Dr. Dark’s chapter at www.taylordark.com/NASA%20Chapter.pdf.  For more information about our guest, please visit his website, www.taylordark.com. I urge you to read Dr. Dark’s chapter before listening to this program.  During the first segment of our 2 hour 1 minute discussion, Dr. Dark told us about his space advocacy background given that he started the first high school L5 organization when he was around 14 years old.  From there, we talked about aspects of space advocacy and specific personalities such as Dr. Zubrin and Taylor’s early fascination with O’Neill colonies.  He then described his shift to a different view of advocacy during his undergraduate college days.  Taylor went into detail about advocacy being connected to the idea of progress for humanity and listed three major space advocacy claims: (1) No limits on growth or human capacity; (2) All good things go together meaning elements of progress are linked together & are reinforcing; (3) Innate Directionality meaning progress is always probable.  He discussed these claims on air but he goes into them in detail in his chapter.  The utopian or messianic view of some advocates was discussed.  Dr. Dark also pointed out that space advocacy was not the only outlet for science, progress for humanity, etc.  Next, he talked about the frontier idea which he said was a weak argument.  He cited many national experiences that had had no frontier and have done well with their space program.  A listener asked our guest for his three top space arguments which were space exploration for more understanding of the universe, planetary defense of potential NEO hits, & commercial activity that was really profitable.  John called in to talk about the need for low cost space access and RLVs which would in turn cause space advocates to engage in lots of potentially profitable ventures. 

In our second segment, Doug called to talk about the probable costs of the O’Neill vision including the lunar base, SSP, & the habitat.  He suggested space tourism was a potential scalable profitable venture and he talked about space and lunar settlement.  Doug also talked about propellant in Earth orbit and satellites from LEO to GEO.  I spoke with Doug about project financing and how commercial or public sector project viability is analyzed which was different from what Doug talked about.  Taylor suggested that advocates don’t typically engage in something like project financing, instead opting for solutions that fit their advocacy agenda.  Taylor talked about the challenges of many advocacy claims including HE3 and fusion and the need for large space settlements.  As we were ending the discussion, Taylor was asked about the possible impact of microbial life being discovered, past or present, or ET.  We also talked about advocacy for inspiration & education and the impact of the Chinese program on advocacy and civil/commercial space. 

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Dr. Philip Metzger, Monday, 4-8-13 April 9, 2013

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Dr. Philip Metzger, Monday, 4-8-13

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Guest:  Dr. Philip Metzger.  Topics: Starting industry in space for the coming space resource revolution re space mining robotics & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed Dr. Philip Metzger to the program to discuss the topic of a coming space resource revolution because of the prospects for a rapid advancement of robotic industry in space.  Please visit his website at www.philipmetzger.com. During our first segment of this two hour five minute program, Dr. Metzger explained the need for space resource usage as a result of a growing Earth population, increasing energy demands, industrialization & an overall feeling of being “squeezed” regarding future demand and resource usage.  From this point, he took us through the technologies, advancements and some visionary plans for setting up a commercial industry in space for space mining robotics and ISRU technologies which are available today.  Dr. Metzger was clear in telling us that the NASA charter was about exploration, not starting up space industry.  We then talked about the ways that industry can access the advance technology created by the NASA exploration and science programs.  Our guest provided us with several robotic examples, including the possibility of making heat shields from Phobos materials which could go a long way toward making a Mars mission affordable.  We talked about technology readiness levels, TRL 1-9.  Phil explained what the various levels meant & how the technology development is passed on to the next development group as the level advances.  I asked our guest to describe a typical day in his lab.  Starting at 6:45AM, Dr. Metzger described his duties and functions and those of the rest of the lab workers.  As you will hear, it’s a mixture of administrative, design, computer work, testing, retesting, & equipment manufacturing.  3D Printing was discussed in some detail and was actually a discussion topic throughout the entire program.  We talked about our being able to repair robotics as compared to building the robotics to avoid needing repair.  Listener Mike sent in an email to inquire about 3D printing, teleoperated & AI robotics for self sustaining lunar/asteroid economies. He also wanted to know how human space exploration fit into the robotic model.  Phil had much to say in response to Mike so don’t miss this discussion. Near the end of this segment, we talked about robotics & the communications time delay, even for the Moon, and what this means for HSF & robotic development. Another concept introduced to us was that of self-sustaining robots that do not need to continue being launched to their destination! Near the end of this segment, Phil introduced us to Lizard Scale Robotics & the different categories going up the scale of robotic development to the top level human scale.

In our second segment, Doug called in from S. California to inquire about starting an affordable industry, financing, and the use of lunar propellant ice.  This took us to a discussion of setting up profitable ventures for space industry development. Phil talked about a new spaceport concept starting with spaceports here on the ground, then in LEO, on the Moon, & then moving out to Phobos.  For a profitable venture, he did say the time line was still too long for capital investment so we discussed public/private partnerships. Also in this segment, we talked hardware designs, the need to start with low technology, even clumsy robots and evolve upward, but avoiding launches & most everything being made in space. We talked about launch capabilities, heavy lift, & getting a specific mass to where it needed to go.  Closing the business case came up & our guest talked about the old “impoverished view” as compared to a new, expanded, multi-potential global view. Don’t miss this discussion.  Mike sent in another note about what it might mean to be second & the value of the exponential potential.  Phil took us through this discussion which made it crystal clear why maintaining our space leadership or being part of it on an international partnership level was so important for our future.  In this context, Dr. Metzger talked about widespread participation in space development for multiple co-owners.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can reach Dr. Phil Metzger through his website or me using drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Rocky Mtn. College Astronaut Panel 1, Friday Morning, 3-22-13 March 30, 2013

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Rocky Mtn. College Astronaut Panel 1, Friday Morning, 3-22-13

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1984-BWB-2013-03-30.mp3

https://vimeo.com/62994325   Panel 1 Video

Guests:  Astronaut Panel 1: Dr. John Jurist, Dr. Harrison Schmitt, Walter Cunningham, Dr. Loren Acton.  Topics:  Astronaut Panel 1 focused on leadership issues & the importance of spaceflight.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels and websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.  The copyright for this program belongs to Dr. John Jurist and Rocky Mountain College.  The Space Show has permission from the copyright holders to archive both video and audio formats on Space Show websites, video channels, blogs, and podcasting sites. .  In addition to the audio format on The Space Show, blog, and podcasting websites, you can instead view the panel video at https://vimeo.com/62994325  which is on our Vimeo private Space Show channel.

During our nonstop 1 hour 34 minute panel discussion before a live audience at Rocky Mountain College in Billings, MT consisting of students, faculty, community leaders, and interested people, as moderator, I asked our panel members about leadership, what it takes to be a leader, leadership qualities, and mentorship.  I also asked about human spaceflight, Apollo, going to the Moon, and lots more.  Risk taking,  regulatory risk, exploration characteristics, and economics were also talked about by our panel members.  We took audience questions dealing with the Apollo program, the Moon, the Saturn V rocket, commercial space, private space, NASA management, SLS, NASA’s current mission,  and issues pertaining to our congress and NASA funding/policy.  Each of our panel members addressed most all of the questions and each brought to the table his unique perspective on the issue or subject at hand.  For those of you watching the panel video on our Vimeo channel, you will see students leaving the room around the top of the hour to take exams.  Some things never change on campus, do they?

Please post comments and questions on The Space Show blog for this program.  For those of you wanting to email our panel members, you can do so through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward your note to the person(s) of your choice.

Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson, Friday, 3-8-13 March 9, 2013

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Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson, Friday, 3-8-13

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1968-BWB-2013-03-08.mp3

Guest:  Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson.  Topics:  Dr. Tyson’s book, “Space Chronicles: Facing The Ultimate Frontier,” delusional thinking, space exploration, space economic power.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed backed Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson to this 60 minute discussion about the new release of the paperback version of his current book, “Space Chronicles: Facing The Ultimate Frontier.”  If you buy the book with this Amazon link, Amazon will make a contribution to The Space Show/OGLF:  http://www.amazon.com/Space-Chronicles-Facing-Ultimate-Frontier/dp/0393343626/ref=onegiantlea20.  The book is a collection of all of Dr. Tyson’s thoughts about the past, present, and future in space.  It consists of essays, tweets, op-eds and more, plus an appendix with important documents such as the original agreement creating NASA in the late 1950s.  Neil said that some of the points he made in the book were that space was expensive and that we do things in space for one of two reasons: 1.  As a result of military threat or war; 2: In support of economic growth of the country.  He then supported his argument with historical facts, making the point that we do not explore for the sake of exploring, that exploration is not in our DNA, that we do not go into space to inspire future generations of kids, and then he even mentioned that the famous JFK Rice University speech which he said was a lie in that weeks before in a speech before Congress, President Kennedy put forth the real reason we were going to the Moon which was to show the world a path of freedom over tyranny.  Dr. Tyson documents this on p. 192 of his book by saying that “Kennedy did adopt a military posture in his speech to Congress.”  Neil stressed this point during our discussion in support of the above reasons for developing.  More about this speech can be found at www.history.com/this-day-in-history/jfk-asks-congress-to-support-the-space-program.  The actual text of the speech can be seen at www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/xzw1gaeeTES6khED14P1Iw.aspx.  Dr. Tyson also talked about the problem of delusional thinking among space enthusiasts, a theme we went back to several times during our discussion.  Another point he made was about the importance of innovation and having a culture of innovation with space goals supporting the economic growth of an innovative nation.  Kelly asked a question about the best way to increase NASAs budget in bipartisan support of space for STEM, inspiration, spin-offs, etc.  Our guest said all of the reasons cited in Kelly’s question were irrelevant.  Don’t miss what he said.  We also talked about the need for infrastructure and Neil said that governments have to pave the way for the frontier and the private companies follow and economically develop it.  He said the commercial companies do not and will not be able to open the space frontier with the needed infrastructure.  I then depicted government as sort of an advance man in space with the privates being able to capitalize that infrastructure development for profit & national wealth. A listener asked about China, a space race, and a possible space war.  Dr. Tyson also said that we should have launch vehicles that go everywhere for research and innovative reasons and we needed to shift our culture to seeing space as a long term national investment for creating wealth for the nation, far beyond the term of our elected officials.  He talked about SpaceX and the need for a rich and fertile collaboration between government and the commercial companies regarding space.  I asked our guest about testifying before Congress. You will want to hear what he had to say about that based on his experiences in do so.  We talked about space and grass roots movements. He talked about GDP economic growth during the Apollo period and then what happened each decade after that through the current period.  Jim sent in a question pointing out possible contradictions in his comments & suggested fuel depots as a way to minimize the quantity of rockets and launches. Dr Tyson said he was hardware agnostic and that in developing infrastructure and paving the way for the privates in space, fuel depots might very well be part of infrastructure but that government would be doing them, especially early on.  Later, Dr. Tyson talked about our system being a political system and that it was not going to change.  He used this as one of the examples of delusional thinking given many enthusiasts who don’t accept this reality & believe they can bypass or work around the political nature of our government and systems.  Near the end of our discussion, he was asked about the Inspire Mars mission which he said was probably a stunt but that it might serve the purpose of showing the government that lots of people are interested in an HSF to Mars.  Another listener wanted to know if the Inspire Mars mission turned out bad, would it derail human spaceflight.  He did not think it would do that given other space accidents with the loss of crew.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog and I will call them to the attention of our guest.

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