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Michael Listner, Sunday, 10-26-14 October 26, 2014

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Michael Listner, Sunday, 10-26-14

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Guest:  Michel Listner.  Topics:  Drones, air traffic control, NASA, SpaceX, patents, reusability, property, space law & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Michael Listner back to the show for a wide ranging discussion on space law issues.  During the first segment of our 95 minute show, Michael started by addressing the NASA program to develop an air traffic control system for drones.  We spent the first part of this segment talking about the system, what it might be like, the partners working with NASA on the plan, the role of the FAA, and related items.  Part of this discussion focused on the need for regulations as Michael said without some regulations there is chaos.  The trick is to balance the regulations to maintain safety and order but also to enable commercial growth.  In this segment, we talked about the Dream Chaser challenge to the decision by NASA re commercial crew with the awards going to Boeing and SpaceX.  To help us understand the appeals process, Michael cited the recent KC-X tanker deal which Boeing appealed and ultimately won the contract.  Michael then updated us with as much info as is known re the SpaceX-AF litigation over the bulk buy, then we talked about the patent dispute with Blue Origin and SpaceX regarding a reusable system meant to land on a barge.

In the second segment, the issues of space property rights & the Asteroids Act came up.  Michael had some interesting observations that he shared with us.  Let us know on the blog what you think about property rights & the Asteroids Act.  A listener asked Michael about the prevailing law should a criminal act be carried out on a spaceship.  Michael explained what would happen if such an event happened in space.  Our guest was asked if he thought the midterm election would make a difference in space policy,  Listeners & I then asked Michael what to look for regarding the balance of this year and into 2015 concerning space legal issues.  Note what Michael pointed out to us.  His concluding comments addressed the need for proper space law to facilitate commercial space growth & exploration.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog.  You can reach Michael through me.

Michael Listner, Monday, 5-5-14 May 6, 2014

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Michael Listner, Monday, 5-5-14

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Guest:  Michael Listner.  Topics:  Space law issues regarding the SpaceX litigation against the Air Force/U.S. Government & Russia & NASA re moving forward on ISS & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Michael Listner back to the program to explain the legal issues involved in the SpaceX-Air Force lawsuit and to discuss the Russian-NASA issues regarding the ISS as a result of U.S. sanctions on Russia and Russian leaders due to the crisis in the Ukraine & Crimea.  In the first segment of our 90 minute program, Michael addressed the SpaceX law suit.  He explained that it was a bid protest law suit, he explained the background and the legal issues involved.  He also said SpaceX was not asking for money but for a Declaratory Judgment that they are eligible to bid on bulk buy launch services which up to now have been the exclusive domain of ULA.  He also said it was the court that picked up on the national security issue regarding ULA, the RD180 engine and the continued purchase of the engines from Dmitry Rogozin & Russia in spite of the Executive Order that may prevent such new purchase activity.  On this issue, the court issued a temporary injunction in favor of SpaceX.  He also explained the process wherein ULA has joined the action as an interested party.  Our entire first segment was devoted to Michael responding to listener questions, explaining the legal concepts, and making sure we understood what this law suit was about and the legal issues the lawsuit focuses on.

In the second segment, Michael started off with a few clarifications dealing with the lawsuit and mentioned that as he understood it, ULA had offered the Air Force a guarantee to replace the launch and satellite if one of their launches failed.  Given ULA resources, that would not be that unusual but it would be a hard act for SpaceX to follow given the fact that SpaceX is young and still growing/developing.  We then switched to the topic of Russia and NASA.  Here, Michael talked about legal agreements and treaties, including the ISS Agreement among partners known as the IGA (he said it amounts to a treaty).  He did not think it would be that easy for the current problems with Russia as a result of our sanctions given the Ukrainian and Crimean issues to escalate to taking down the ISS agreement and other space activities underway with Russia and NASA.  Michael was asked about the likelihood of NASA getting more funding and working with SpaceX to fastback the Dragon development for taking humans to the ISS.  Other questions took us back to the lawsuit discussed in the first segment.  As we neared the end of the program, Michael also talked about the PR campaigns by SpaceX and ULA and how this was a high stakes lawsuit.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can contact Michael through me.  For Twitter use Michael J. Listner@ponder68.

Michael Listner, Sunday, 12-1-13 December 1, 2013

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Michael Listner, Sunday, 12-1-13

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Guest:  Michael Listner.  Topics:  Space law Review for 2013.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Michael Listner back to the program for this space law review for 2013.  On The Space Show blog at the end of the summary, you will find two presentations uploaded at Michael’s request.  In the first segment of this 1 hour 57 minute discussion, Michael said it was a fruitful year for space law and policy.  He suggested that the paradigm changer was private space development, at both the state and the federal legal picture.  He talked much about the Outer Space Treaty (OST) which provides the legal basis for the U.S. to exercise control over its citizens launching anything to space anywhere in the world.  This subject came up in reference to Mars One and some statements Michael made regarding there wanting to go elsewhere to avoid Dutch law.  Michael explained how the OST presents the Dutch government with the same obligation for its citizens around the world as is the case with the U.S.  Michael then brought us current with the European Code of Conduct, current modifications, and the impact it might have on U.S. space entrepreneurs and launchers such as SpaceX.  He talked about how regulations get enforced as law & how they would make the voluntary code legally binding in our country.  We talked about the need to get an FAA launch license for private companies and how that might be unavailable depending on regulations and political issues.  For a government mission, there is no launch license requirement.  This point was stressed when using SLS for Inspiration Mars came up for discussion.

In the second segment (note we had a phone interruption so there was a short additional break though most of it was edited out), there were several email questions and comments regarding Tito’s recent Inspiration Mars congressional testimony and what it might mean for space law issues if the mission became a NASA project.  Allen asked a question about state law, specifically in California.  Michael explained the relationship between state and federal law in space matters.  During the discussion, Michael referenced many papers by different authors applicable to our discussion. Here are the links to those papers:  Henry Hertzfeld & Scott Pace: http://science.time.com/2013/11/28/hands-off-our-lunar-landing-sites-not-so-fast; National Space Transportation Policy:
www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/national_space_transportation_policy_11212013.pdf; Established Practices for Human Spaceflight Occupant Safety www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/national_space_transportation_policy_11212013.pdf; Space Review article on commercial spaceflight self-regulation: www.thespacereview.com/article/2252/1; FAA decision: www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2013-12-02/html/2013-28405.htm.  Our guest talked about these items during both segments of our show, stressing the geopolitical component.  Near the end of the program, we talked about laws to protect the lunar Apollo landing sites and artifacts.  In his concluding remarks, our guest stressed the need to play by the rules.  Such rules may consist of state, federal, and international laws and regulations. Michael also talked about Bigelow Aerospace and his lunar cots like program suggested with NASA.

If you have questions/comments for Michael, post them on The Space Show blog. You can reach Michael through his website at www.spacelawsolutions.com.

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Mark Sundahl, Friday, 3-1-13 March 2, 2013

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Mark Sundahl, Friday, 3-1-13

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Guest:  Mark Sundahl.  Topics:  Commercial space law issues and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed Mark Sundahl back to the show to discuss current commercial space law issues, the recent FAA COMSTAC meeting, and more.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 24 minute discussion, Mark talked about the recent FAA COMSTAC meeting held in Washington, DC.  Mark focused on ITAR Reform in his summary.  He discussed the reform measures taken last year but said they have yet to be implemented.  Other topics in this segment included commercial space development, and the need for secrecy regarding space property rights issues for commercial space companies.  He used space mining as an example.  At one point he said it would be in a space mining company’s interest to keep all their mining research secret to avoid any possibility of the space age equivalent of “claim jumping.”  Listeners sent in emails to ask our guest about the Cape Town Convention which is an international space treaty.  Mr. Sundahl discussed the Cape Town Convention in some detail during the first part of the program.  As part of this discussion, we talked about satellite financing, the liability treaty, the sale and transfer of satellites or using them for collateral for financing and the potential impacts of this per the U.S. ITAR.  As this segment was ending, our guest addressed launch vehicle certification which may be required for operation in some European and foreign spaceports as compared to needing a launch license in the United State.

In the second segment, Carnival Cruise Lines and their limited liability waiver and informed consent contract clauses were brought up by a listener who heard me mention the subject on the last open lines program.  Mark had much to say about Carnival Cruise Lines as a potential indicator of what may happen with suborbital space tourism.  Our guest was asked about the recently announced Inspiration Mars mission and if U.S. government regulations could prevent such a mission.  Mark had much to say about human spaceflight regulations now and in the future.  We also talked about the developing cubesat industry and Mark offered some concerns around space debris issues.  As the program ended, we talked about new space law programs at various U.S. law schools and some differences and similarities with U.S. space and international space law.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog above  You can contact Mr. Sundahl through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Dr. George Robinson, Tuesday, 2-26-13 February 27, 2013

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Dr. George Robinson, Tuesday, 2-26-13

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Guest: Dr. George Robinson.  Topics:  Human species survival via space habitation BLEO.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed back Dr. George Robinson to the show to discuss the imperative of human space development and the need to migrate to space and BLEO for human species survival.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 55 minute program, Dr. Robinson put forth the basics supporting human species survival through space migration and permanent space habitation.  During this initial segment, he introduced us to many concepts and components that support space migration.  For example, we talked about the need for the creation of a unique private sector, specifically a cyber sovereign company or venture.  Our guest also talked about these issues from the point of view of his being an evolutionary biologist with a background in biology and chemistry and serving as an evolutionary biologist throughout his legal, teaching, consulting and business career.  Listeners asked our guest about space settlement as opposed to space migration and George explained the difference.  Our guest also talked about species extinction and said humans were no exception to the threat of species extinction which is why species survival has become an important issue, one even considered by NASA, DARPA, and other national and international government agencies.  Dr. Robinson introduced us to the Space Propulsion Synergy Team (SPST) and their October 2012 White Paper, “The Justification for Human Space Development and Habitation Beyond Low Earth Orbit: An Invitation for an Open National and Global Dialogue.”  You can download this paper at http://www.eaglehill.us/subscriberSPAEVO/pdfs-policy-series/SPAEVO-policy-1.pdf.  George supports the paper but does not think NASA is in a position to do this and in fact supports replacing NASA with a more nationally directed international space agency working toward species survival and space migration.  The role of those not migrating to space was also discussed as they too have an important part to play in species survival.  As this segment ended, George got a question about the newly proposed human Mars 501 day orbital loop flight.  George suggested better options to support species survival & migration.

In our second segment, Dr. Robinson went into more detail about a cyber sovereign entity and the role of the private sector, plus the need for a unique global private sector. He further developed the role of the population in species survival, specifically for those not migrating to space.  He received questions about current leadership and leadership challenges both here and around the world.  We talked about public perception, species survival and space migration as hard sell issues to the public and our leaders.  The need to have risk capital was discussed.  In the context of risk capital, we talked about U.S. & global economic problems & the risk of excessive government regulation.  As our program was ending, Dr. Robinson and I talked about the white paper recommendation for a national and global dialogue regarding these issues.

If you have comments/questions, post them on The Space Show blog.  If you want to contact Dr. Robinson or the SPST or the Journal of Space & Evolution, you can do so through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

John Batchelor “Hotel Mars,” Wednesday, 1-23-13 January 24, 2013

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John Batchelor “Hotel Mars,” Wednesday, 1-23-13

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Guests:  John Batchelor, Wayne White, Dr. David Livingston:  Topics: Space law, space property rights, asteroid mining.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce.  This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com.  During our 11 minute plus discussion, Wayne White and I talked with John Batchelor about space property rights and the absence of them, asteroid mining, the Outer Space Treaty, space law, and viewing the coming commercial space activity with asteroid mining as being similar to the 49er days of early California.  John asked lots of questions comparing this period to what he sees as the coming future for asteroid mining. Wayne talked about mining law, legal claims through the diplomatic process and more.

     Please post any comments/questions you might have on The Space Show blog.  You can contact any of  us through drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Dr. Edythe Weeks, Tuesday, 11-20-12 November 21, 2012

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Dr. Edythe Weeks, Tuesday, 11-20-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1897-BWB-2012-11-20.mp3

Guest:  Dr Edythe (Edy) Weeks.  Topics: We discussed her book, various commercial space development models, benefit sharing & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. We welcomed Dr. Edythe (Edy) Weeks to the program to discuss her book, “Outer Space Development, International Relations and Space Law: A Method for Elucidating Seeds.” You can buy her book on Amazon & if you use the following URL, Amazon will contribute to The Space Show/OGLF: www.amazon.com/Outer-Space-Development-International-Relations/dp/1443839655/ref=onegiantlea20.  During our first segment of this 2.5 hour discussion, Dr. Weeks introduced us to her book and the need to understand space development from an international relations perspective.  We talked about how the industry has evolved over the last 20+ years, innovations such as citizen science suborbital missions, new commercial players, & innovative business ideas such as asteroid mining.  Dr. Weeks talked extensively about the need for an ideological shift toward space throughout the non-space population & within our global educational systems.  When Todd from San Diego emailed Edy as to how to create the ideological shift, that opened a discussion on how such shifts are created.  It was very interesting that one of the major examples cited by our guest included the growth & popularity of tattoos.  This sparked quite a conversation, some of it laced with humor, lots of fun, but also relevant points to our discussion.  As our segment was ending, our guest talked about the need to include other perspectives in the space benefits, those coming from outside the STEM fields.
     In our second & very long segment, I opened up asking Edy about the ideas in her book in support of benefit sharing & the Common Heritage of Mankind concepts found in some of the U.N. space treaties.  This discussion prevailed for the balance of our program as our guest is looking for new and different business & social models for space to be more inclusive which she believes will lead to more space commerce.  I took a challenging & argumentative position throughout most of the discussion in explaining why most in the NewSpace and commercial space industries do not support benefit sharing and why. We talked about the need for property rights & why such rights would facilitate commercial development.  Dr. Weeks was not supportive of the property rights positions, looking more for space development to accomplish much needed social change and reform around the world. Also, she made the case that property rights were not needed nor supported by the treaties & their working papers. Dr. Weeks did clarify her position regarding capitalism, the U.S., commercial space companies & benefit sharing ideas so don’t miss her clarification. Let us know your thoughts on our blog. Tax revenues were discussed but as you will hear, our guest focuses on actual benefit sharing beyond tax payments to help create wealth for everyone, including those that would be the recipient of the benefit sharing programs & the commercial space business.  We talked about voluntary charitable giving as compared to mandatory or government required giving through benefit sharing.  I cited Microsoft & Google models for why private sector giving with the pursuit of business unfettered by government induced benefit sharing is better.  Tim called in to express his very strong views in support of the private sector & his opposition to reallocation of resources regardless of how it is termed by either government or the UN.  Edy referenced the OST & the Moon Treaty in making her points, making the case that outer space resources belong to everyone, not just the developer.  While we did use an outrageously successful multi-trillion dollar model for our discussion of the space mining example, the idea was made that the company could easily afford to “give” a percentage to the benefit sharing process, over & above taxes, assuming the company was profitable, even at more realistic levels.  Our guest was very articulate in presenting her views & ideas, plus her book does a very good job of comprehensively dealing with what we just barely had time to scratch during our program.  For more information, check out Edy’s blog and YouTube video:  www.youtube.com/watch?v=okyVWJglxow & http://blogs.webster.edu/globalthinking/blog/2012/07/16/outer-space-development-is-subject-of-new-book-by-hpirs-edythe-weeks/#more-2802.
     Please post all comments/questions about this discussion on The Space Show blog.  I will bring all comments to the attention of Dr. Weeks on a regular basis.

Wayne White, Monday, 10-15-12 October 15, 2012

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Wayne White, Monday, 10-15-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1873-BWB-2012-10-15.mp3

Guest:  Wayne White.   Topics:  Space law, The Space Pioneer Act, property rights & commercial space development.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed Wayne White back to the program to discuss his proposal for The Space Pioneer Act (SPA).  His Power Point presentation on this Act has been uploaded to The Space Show blog.  Later in the program we talked about his new business venture, SpaceBooster, LLC.  Background on SpaceBooster has also been uploaded to The Space Show blog.  Mr. White started our discussion with an overview on his proposed SPA and the five United Nations treaties that generally control the behavior in space by all nations, including the issues of property rights, space salvage, and space mining.  Mr. White spent a considerable amount of time on this discussion, the Outer Space Treaty (OST) and the Moon Treaty.  Our guest then introduced us to the idea of “innovative financing” which is a type of tax being proposed in the U.N.  This prompted quite the discussion. Next, our guest took us to salvage law, the Law of the Sea Treaty, and the space asset registration lists with both the Air Force and the U.N. Transferring ownership title of space based assets was a major part of this part of the discussion, including reciprocity with similar laws that might eventually be enacted in other countries.  Atty. Michael called in and we had a mini-legal debate on these issues, the treaties, enforcement, and alternatives.  Wayne then introduced us to the Deep Sea Hard Mineral Resources Act as being relevant to parts of The Space Pioneers Act.

In our second segment, Wayne talked about the history of many of our laws consistent with what he proposes in his Act.  He said that 2012 was the 150th anniversary of the Homestead Act and he connected the benefits of the Homestead Act with what might happen in space with the SPA.  He also talked about the 1872 General Mining Act which then led him to talking about Article 2 of the OST.  Our guest was calling for the “use it or lose it” regime.  Space mining was discussed in this segment along with jurisdictional issues, both internationally and domestically.  Later in the segment, Wayne talked about his new business, SpaceBooster LLC.  You can find out more by visiting their website, www.spacebooster.com though Wayne did say the website is still under construction and being developed.  Near the end of the program, we talked about space tourism liability, informed consent, insurance, and the meaning of the term “spaceflight participant” as opposed to being a passenger.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can reach Wayne White, Atty, through The Space Pioneer Act presentation on our blog.

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National Center For Remote Sensing, Air & Space Law, Friday, 10-12-12 October 13, 2012

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National Center For Remote Sensing, Air & Space Law, Friday, 10-12-12

With Chuck Dickey, John Wood, & Nick Welly

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Guests:  Chuck Dickey, John Wood, Nick Welly.  Topics:  We discuss the NationalCenter for Remote Sensing, Air & Space Law at Ole Miss.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed our three guests to the program to discuss the benefits and services provided to the U.S. along with the global space community by the National Center for Remote Sensing, Air & Space Law at the University of Mississippi School of Law as well as the quality legal education afforded the students pursuing an interest in space law. Visit their website for more information and for the publications and events mentioned during our discussion:  www.spacelaw.olemiss.edu. Our program started with an opening statement about the Center by each of our three guests.  As you will hear, John and Nick were students at the Center while Chuck has been a user of services provided by the Center as well as providing internship opportunities for the space law students.  Each guest told just how important the Center was and still is to them and their work.  Throughout our program, we talked about the Center Director, Joanne Irene Gabrynowicz who has been a guest on this program several times in the past.  In our first segment, we talked about international space law, U.S. space law, and other space law schools, comparing their programs to those offered by the National Center.  Specific issues such as remote sensing were highlighted as was commercial space, and telecommunications.  Published by the National Center, the Journal of Space Law was discussed, including the archival base as well as new issue subscriptions.  We talked about some of the articles published in it and the publication as an outstanding resource for space law and researchers in general.  Also mentioned was the Res Communis blog which is a free subscription providing important and timely information about aviation and space law issues.  Michael called in to talk about academics, treaty space law, international space law issues, and the contributions to the field from the Center.  He mentioned the upcoming 7th Galloway Symposium on Critical Issues in Space Law in Washington, DC, an event sponsored by the Center.  You can find out more about this event on the Center’s website.

In our short second segment, I asked about planetary protection and Article 9 of the OST based on our program earlier in the week with the director of NASA’s Planetary Protection office.  Our guests told us about their studies and work in this area and the relevance of this to the work of the Center.  Listener Sagi called in to talk about the Center and how it has benefitted him in his law practice & more. I also thanked him for his part in helping me set up this program with our three guests. Other topics during this segment included commercial space, commercial space companies, other space law programs in the U.S. and around the world, plus the European Code of Conduct for Outer Space Development.  Our three guests left us with meaningful closing comments which you definitely want to hear.

Please post your comments/questions about this discussion on The Space Show blog.

 

Susan Holden Martin, Monday, 7-30-12 July 31, 2012

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Susan Holden Martin, Monday, 7-30-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1824-BWB-2012-07-30.mp3

Guest:  Susan Holden Martin.  Topics:  Mars Society 2012 Conference, MSL & Curiosity landing, JPL.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted
without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed Susan Holden Martin, the new Executive Director of The Mars Society, to the program to discuss this year’s conference, the MSL mission & landing, and more. You can follow along with us regarding the conference program at www.marssociety.org/convention2012. The conference is being held in Pasadena, CA from August 3-5 at the Pasadena Convention Center. As our program was an ongoing conference and JPL-Mars Science Lab discussion, I am summarizing our discussion without regard to segments.  Note the discussion on conference registration and hotels in the area given the conference begins in just a few days and online registration is now closed.  We summarized most of the agenda, highlighted the special programs, panels, and guests, and talked conference logistics.  Listeners asked about the Curiosity landing, putting heavy payloads on the surface of Mars, and the Sky Crane which will be used in the landing process.  Later in the program, Susan discussed the arrangements with The Planetary Society & their program at the Pasadena Convention Center, Planetfest 2012 which is going on at the same time.  We also talked about the Conference banquet, the award to Elon Musk, Falcon 9 models on Amazon (use the OGLF code if you buy one so that Amazon will donate to The Space Show, www.amazon.com/SpaceX-Falcon-Dragon-Flying-Rocket/dp/B006GX14R8/ref=onegiantlea20).  Another key part of the conference is direct feed from JPL to see the Curiosity landing Sunday evening, August 5, 10:30 PM PDT.  During the last few minutes of the
program, Susan updated us on other Mars Society programs including MDRS, the University Rover Competition, the Musk Observatory, the Mars Society in the UK, and more.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog. If you have conference questions or want to be in touch with Ms. Martin, you can email her at susanm@marssociety.org.

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