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Lee Hutchinson, Monday, 3-17-14 March 18, 2014

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Lee Hutchinson, Monday, 3-17-14

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Guest:  Lee Hutchinson.  Topics:  The possible Columbia Space Shuttle rescue mission.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Lee Hutchinson to the program to discuss his recent article, “The audacious rescue plan that might have saved space shuttle Columbia” which you can read at http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/02/the-audacious-rescue-plan-that-might-have-saved-space-shuttle-columbia.  Note that Mr. Hutchinson said he found the possible rescue plan spelled out in the CAIB report in seldom discussed Appendix D13 of the report.  In questioning Lee, we also learned that the plan did not exist real time with Columbia but was actually requested as part of the Columbia Accident Investigation Board’s work.  In the first segment of our 1 hour 28 minute program, our guest told us why he wrote the article and how he noticed the possible rescue plan back when he was tasked with reviewing the CAIB Report.  During this segment, our guest described all parts of the plan and we discussed the likelihood of it having worked had it been implemented.  Lee also discussed probable & significant timing issues with parts of the rescue plan making it unlikely to have been implemented had it been a real time plan under consideration.  It was dependent upon too many things happening precisely on time and schedule, something that was not always possible with shuttle launches.  Lee also went over the specific crew training issues that would have been required, plus issues in using EVA suits and getting them to and from Columbia for the astronauts to use.  Listeners asked many questions including questions about NASA management at the time, risk averseness, & the NASA culture. Lee was asked about the comments & feedback he received from writing his article.  As the segment ended, Mr. Hutchinson discussed plane change maneuvers and the significance of the orbital inclination of Columbia and the ISS.

In the second segment, a Cleveland listener ask for Lee’s thoughts on SLS-Orion.  Lee & I talked about this & the NASA culture plus the need for heavy lift assuming there are missions for it.  He was asked if the shuttle could fly without pilots, then we went back to SLS.  He also told us about his interest in the redesign of the F1 engine.  You can read his articles on the F1 here:  http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/04/how-nasa-brought-the-monstrous-f-1-moon-rocket-back-to-life; http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/04/new-f-1b-rocket-engine-upgrades-apollo-era-deisgn-with-1-8m-lbs-of-thrust.  Lee received several email questions regarding the foam strike on Columbia & foam modification efforts.  He was also asked about the shuttle repair kit which was carried on subsequent shuttle flights.  Benny asked if a 3D printer on board could have made the materials to repair the Columbia damage.

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Mark Bray, Tuesday, 2-11-14 February 12, 2014

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Mark Bray, Tuesday, 2-11-14

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Guest:  Mark Bray.  Topics:  Huntsville area space update, SLS from the inside, U.S. space policy, leadership issues. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed back Mark Bray for a Huntsville space area update and a unique view from the inside on SLS and U.S. space policy.  In the first segment of our 1 hour 49 minute discussion, Mark shared his personal assessment of the Huntsville area space economy, the moods of contractors and NASA workers, & the space IQ for the Huntsville general population.  For the most part, Mark reported stability but lots of uncertainty.  In contrast, the last time Mark did an area update for us, there were still layoffs happening, lots of uncertainty and personal stress, and stability was far from the scene.  We then switched to SLS which was a topic through most of the show because Mark is a contractor working on SLS.  Its important to note that Mark was speaking for himself on the program, not for his employer, NASA, or his fellow workers and area space employees.  Mark works in the SLS materials lab so we asked him all sorts of questions about the big rocket.  For example, I drilled him on the mood of SLS workers given they certainly had to know about the hate-love war going on over SLS within the space community.  Mark answered all these questions for us, including questions about possible competitive pressure from SpaceX.  We talked extensively about commercial space development and the need for commercial markets.  Mark spent some time on the issue of markets because without them, one has no viable commercial activity.  Mark then honed in on the problem of political leadership regarding space saying that NASA and related organizations were not the problem. This opened the door for multiple discussions during the balance of the program going after what Mark and I both thought was an absence of quality political leadership in the country and the partisan warfare between the two main parties preventing workable solutions for many if not all the nation’s problems.  Before the segment ended, I asked Mark about the Chinese lunar lander & robot and what people thought about it.  He said most were frustrated that we (the U.S.) was not doing more as we were not operating even close to our potential.

In the second segment, Doug called to ask about public/private partnerships, COTS like programs, and he talked about his Lunar Cots ideas.  Doug asked about reducing costs.  Mark seized the opportunity to again state that engineering technology & NASA management were not the real problems but that leadership issues in Washington were at the center of the problems.  John then called from Ft. Worth.  He wanted to talk about SLS cost numbers & asked Mark why it was so expensive given the assumption that much of it came from already developed projects including Ares components and more. Don’t miss what Mark had to say about this.  John then asked Mark for his personal thoughts on the news that SpaceX will build a rocket larger than the Saturn V in about ten years.  Again, don’t miss his answer.  Near the end of the show, in summary mode, Mark repeated that the biggest challenge was a market challenge.  What is the market? Is there a long term market? How big is the market?  As the show was ending, we asked Mark about the viability of human spaceflight.

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Rick Boozer, Monday, 1-27-14 January 28, 2014

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Rick Boozer, Monday, 1-27-14

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Guest:  Rick Boozer.    Topics:  SLS, NASA, Commercial Space, Space Development Steering Committee.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed back Rick Boozer to continue discussing his premise that congressional mismanagement as adversely impacted NASA and that money going to SLS is money better spent elsewhere.  During the first segment of this 1 hour 45 minute program, Mr. Boozer reintroduced his book to us (he was a guest on TSS regarding his book on August 12, 2013), talking to us about adverse congressional management of NASA the why he believe SLS is damaging to NASA.  Mr. Boozer is very effective in sating his case, with lots of passion.  He references earlier proposals by ULA and SpaceX to build larger heavy lift rockets than the full size SLS for a fraction of the SLS cost but those proposals were dismissed, paving the way for SLS.  We also talked about private sector efforts in making rockets rather than the government doing it, also COTS and Commercial Crew.  At times I countered Rick’s perspective with a few of the better known pro-SLS arguments such as SLS is a place holder for key parts of the aerospace workforce.  Don’t miss what Rick had to say about this idea.

In the second segment, Doug called in with SLS questions based on the assumption that SLS does fly.  Our guest talked about a heavy lifter not needed for the Moon but most likely needed for human spaceflight to Mars.  Another listener asked Rick if he had a Plan B if SLS continued to be funded.  Rick said the Plan B is today’s status quo.  During both segments of this program, our guest mentioned SLS & competing private heavy lift vehicle studies carried out by Dr. Alan Wilhite of Georgia Tech.  Rick provided me with several URLs to this information.  Check out this information at www.newspacewatch.com/docs/IAC-12.D3.2.3.x15379-NASAStudy.pdf & http://spirit.as.utexas.edu/~fiso/telecon/Wilhite_2-13-13/Wilhite_2-13-13.pdf.  Also, Rick suggested a debate on the SLS topic.  I would be willing to do a Space Show debate with Rick opposing SLS.  If you have a suggestion for someone to represent support for SLS, please let know.  Toward the end of the program, we asked Rick about his future book plans and he talked about a crowd funding program regarding the preservation of valuable astronomical data.  Also, visit Rick’s own blog, http://astromaven.blogspot.com.

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The Space Show Classroom with Drs. Jurist & Logan, Monday, 1-6-14 January 7, 2014

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The Space Show Classroom with Drs. Jurist & Logan, Monday, 1-6-14

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Guests: Dr. Jim Logan, Dr. John Jurist.  Topics:  Space advocacy magical/fantasy thinking, radiation, rockets, HSF & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed back Drs. Jurist and Logan to this CLASSROOM program which addressed many issues of the 2 hours 1 minute broadcast.  We started out with Dr. Logan discussing fantasy or magical thinking going back to the influence of a 2001 Space Odyssey movie poster had on him.  From there, Jim went into a discussion about Constellation, then the Space Shuttle as examples of what he was talking about and as to how programs and faulty ideas grow and multiply.  He also talked about life science challenges.  A listener asked him about space politics, then Dr. Jurist offered additional examples with a focus on air launch.  Our guests then discussed thinking based on agendas and ideology.  One of the keys suggested for breaking out of this magical thinking mode involved surrounding yourself with really smart people.  Later, I offered my perspective on that given my own experiences early on in Space Show time and before.   Both Jim and John said a few times that one needs to know his or her limitations.  Our guests then talked due diligence with assumption building, fact checking, disclosures, and more.  I relayed my own wake -up call experience due to Al Zaehringer who was on the show several times years ago before he passed on.  Before the segment ended, Jim told us a story about the Wright Brothers and their Wright Flyer experience.  In our second segment, John Hunt called in to talk about Jim’s Space Shuttle comments.  This was a lengthy discussion with John, Jim, & John Jurist.  Jim talked about advantages with Saturn V including economic advantages over shuttle to LEO.  Subjects of reusability came up along with issues of getting a specific payload to orbit which our guests suggested advocacy often glosses over with facts and trades for payload mass fractions involved in reusability.  Dr. Logan brought up and discussed what he called NASA Brinkmanship Strategy.  Jim then talked about the reality of sending payloads to the ISS using shuttle.   Trent in Australia sent a message about magical thinking with Mars One.  Our last caller was Alan from St. Louis who said John and Jim were too negative in their discussion.  Alan then talked about using smaller rockets over heavy lift and was working to make the case that we have to work with what we have.  He also talked about evolving up from smaller, not starting off with the biggest.  Each of us responded to Alan.  It’s a discussion you do not want to miss.

Please post your comments/questions on either or both The Space Show Blog above or The Space Show Classroom blog, http://spaceshowclassroom.wordpress.com.  You can reach all of the participants including the callers through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

William (Bill) Harwood, Sunday, 11-24-13 November 25, 2013

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William (Bill) Harwood, Sunday, 11-24-13

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Guest: William (Bill) Harwood.  Topics:  SpaceX Falcon 9 GEO Launch, space policy, suborbital issues and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Bill Harwood, the CBS News space consultant to the show.  During the first segment of our 90 minute program, Bill told us about his press conference and briefing with Elon Musk, the CTO from SES, the company sending the first GEO bird to orbit on the Falcon 9 on Monday afternoon, 11-25-13, and Ms. Shotwell of SpaceX.  Most of the first segment was spent discussing the press conference, the comments about the launch made by all participants, the challenges of doing the first GEO launch for the new Falcon 9 V1.1 and more.  Not only did Bill go over the details of the launch and the SES satellite orbital insertion, plus the Falcon 9 plans for second stage firing and getting in position for the satellite to take over for its part, we talked about SpaceX launch costs, we compared the Falcon 9 costs as best we could to the Arianne and the ILS Proton costs.  Bill was asked about the thoughts of the Falcon 9 competition and what it might mean for a SpaceX success with their first GEO launch.  Also in this segment, Bill was asked about Inspiration Mars, SLS, & Orion.  Other topics included space settlement, suborbital flight, Virgin Galactic, robotic missions, and the why that justifies HSF.  As the segment was ending, a listener asked about the Florida space coast economy and its economic recovery.

In the second segment, Bill was asked if SpaceX was creating a new market or taking market share from the existing competition.  We talked about NASA story telling for a better space policy, the JFK legacy, & space being treated by many as a luxury.  I asked Bill about the private sector being able to kick start space industry development and Bill responded with information how hard space was, especially orbital space which requires speeds of 85 football fields per second.  Dream Chaser and its recent accident were discussed and there was lots of listener support for Dream Chaser as there was from our guest.  More was said about the potential market for suborbital tourism and flights.  Bill was asked about the biggest change over the years in his covering space issues and he said it was the change in politics.  I asked him about his reporting during both Challenger and Columbia. As the program closed, Bill was asked about the ISS, commercial development for the station, and the need to keep the station going beyond 2020.

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Dr. James (Jim) Hansen, Tuesday, 10-1-13 October 2, 2013

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Dr. James (Jim) Hansen, Tuesday, 10-1-13

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Guest:  Dr. James Hansen.  Topics: Retired astronaut John Young, space history, returning tothe Moon, astronaut safety & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Dr. James (Jim) Hansen back to the program to discuss the biography of retired astronaut John Young which Dr. Hansen helped in writing.  The book, “Forever Young A Life Of Adventure in Air and Space,” is readily available at bookstores and Amazon. Remember, if you go through The Space Show/OGLF Amazon portal (instructions are on the blog, our website & the OGLF website), Amazon will make a contribution to The Space Show.  The first segment of our nearly two hour program, Dr. Hansen and I started out with an early aviation history overview as I asked our guest about the idea that in space we are as advanced today as was the DC-3 to where aviation is today.  This proved to be an interesting discussion, focusing not just on the DC-3 but NACA, the role of government in helping to develop advanced technologies and much more.  We then turned our attention John Young.  As you will hear, the book we are discussing was a biography written in first person and Jim was asked to help make it so.  We talked about Young’s focus on both astronaut safety and the NEO threat to Earth.  We talked about John Young both on Apollo and his shuttle flights.  The subject of space and aviation history came up again and we talked about the Enola Gay and what it took to display it at the Smithsonian as there was lots of opposition to doing so.  Dr. Hansen then returned to the John Young book, he told us about his suggestions to turn Young’s manuscript into a book & he described working with John and his wife on the project.  Space history was also a topic in this segment as we talked about historians and authors often having their work amended by later versions of the history.  Dr. Hansen cited some very famous examples when I said I wanted to rewrite my dissertation and correct my errors.

In the second segment, Jim was asked about John Young and Mars.  Jim said that John’s preference was returning to the Moon, plus his focus on his concern for NEOs hitting Earth.  But he did support being a multi-planet species.  We asked Jim about his preference or comparison of Apollo & the Saturn 5 to the shuttle.  Jim told us that John loved the shuttle and was fortunate to fly two shuttle missions.  Doug called in and wanted to know Jim’s perspective as a historian on the space frontier model common among space enthusiasts.  The frontier metaphor sparked quite the conversation with the three of us.  Dr. Hansen returned to talking about John Young’s interest in returning to the Moon and why.  Much was said in both segments about how shuttle should not have been cancelled nor should Constellation have been cancelled.  Ben emailed us about astronauts and role models and do they have a responsibility to us in being role models.  This also sparked an extensive conversation about astronauts, their role in society, what we make them into. Toward the end, Jim and I digressed into other areas of space, aviation, and political history.  We talked about the Cuban Missile Crisis, I cited memories of B 52′s at the ready at the Tulsa Municipal Airport, the remaining Moon Walker Astronauts, private sector lunar astronauts as a possibility before government astronauts return to the Moon, and digressions about Alabama, Oklahoma, and Jim’s next book about Robert Trent Jones and golf. Also in both segments, Dr. Hansen often referred to Neil Armstrong and his book about Neil which we discussed the last time Jim was our guest.

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Anatoly Zak, Tuesday, 9-3-13 September 4, 2013

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Anatoly Zak, Tuesday, 9-3-13

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Guest:  Anatoly Zak.  Topics:  The Soviet & Russian space program, his incredible new book!  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Anatoly Zak as a first time guest to The Space Show and we promise, he will return as a regular guest on the show!  Make sure you check out his website, www.russianspaceweb.com.  Anatoly was with us to talk about his new book published by Apogee Prime, Russia In space: the Past Explained the Future Explored.  I assure you that the praise you will hear from me and others throughout our discussion about this book is an understatement as this is one of the very best space books I have been fortunate to read and have as a permanent reference book.  Remember, if you get this book through Amazon using the OGLF portal, Amazon donates a percentage of the sale to The Space Show.  Amazon OGLF instructions are on our website, the OGLF website, the archives, and the blog archives but email me if you have questions.  In the first segment of our 1 hour 38 minute program, we talked about the production of this book which took our guest 3-4 years to complete.  I then asked Mr. Zak for the Russian perspective of the success of Apollo 11.  I pointed out some fascinating Soviet/Russian hardware pictures in the book such as the predecessor of Dream Chaser.  Todd asked about the durability of the Soyuz and all weather capability of Russian rockets compared to American rockets.  Next, I asked Anatoly about the commercial, NewSpace effort to buy the Mir Space Station and send Dennis Tito to it as the first space tourist.  You have to listen to what Anatoly told us.  This is a very different story from what we have heard from others on The Space Show, including those that I have talked with who were part of the effort to save, buy, and operate Mir.  Even when Dr. Lurio called in at the beginning of the second segment, Charles was as surprised at the new information as I was and we joked about talking to our friends who were involved in the effort. As you will hear, I told Charles several time he could run with it, I will sit on the sidelines.  But all kidding aside, don’t miss this discussion.  I then asked Anatoly about the effort to use a Soyuz to fly passengers to the Moon, orbit it, and return home. Again, a totally different story than what many of us have heard.  No way he said.  All PR fluff and more.  Don’t miss this exchange. Dwayne wanted to know the actual percentage of operating costs the Americans and tourists pay when they ride the Soyuz to the ISS.  Anatoly did not know the exact percentage but said the Russian program was much healthier financially today and could stand on its own without this revenue.  Recent Russian rocket failures came up and our guest talked about the need for serious improvement in Russian quality control.  Near the end of the first segment, I asked if Putin liked the space program or if the Russian program suffered a similar fate as the American program with the White House and most inside the Beltway.  As you will hear, Putin is a fan of the space program, Russia has increased its space budget, and they treat space differently than we do.  John called in to ask about nuclear energy and propulsion in the Russian program. Anatoly updated us on nuclear power usage in space but not for propulsion.

We started the second segment with the call from Dr. Lurio. He asked about the Angara rocket program which was designed to replace the Proton.  He then asked about the entrepreneurial effort in Russia as compared to the States.  Another listener emailed in questions about the Buran program and espionage.  Dwayne called back to ask about the Russian and Chinese oceanic surveillance satellites.  I then asked Mr. Zak to discuss the Russian and Chinese cooperation and relationship with their two space programs, if such a relationship exists.  Our next topic focused on Anatoly’s perspective of NASA and SLS.  He had much to say about designing and building rockets, the eventual payload, and mission.  He said we do not have a productive program in place for SLS, then we talked about learning the lessons of history which he said was hard to do for both the Russians and Americans.  I also asked Anatoly for his thoughts on NewSpace which he said was important but not able to do enough significant things which for now only government can do. Tim called in just under the wire (as usual) to inquire about a rocket capable of multiple payloads and various missions.  Anatoly told him why this does not work.  Tim then asked our guest about fuel depots, cryogenic transfer, and storable fuels.  Sean from Little Rock wanted to hear what Anatoly thought about Mars One.  Anatoly said such missions were unrealistic and not serious regarding engineering or equipment. Near the end, we got questions about Russians and UFOs, the movie Space Cowboys, tracking items in space, and Russian space advocacy.

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Dr. Sandra Magnus, AIAA, Friday, 8-23-13 August 24, 2013

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Dr. Sandra Magnus, AIAA, Friday, 8-23-13

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Guest:  Dr. Sandra Magnus.  Topics:  The American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA), AIAA conferences, human spaceflight. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Dr. Sandra Magnus, the new AIAA Executive Director, to the show to discuss AIAA with us, their conferences, and much more.  Please visit the AIAA website for more information, www.aiaa.org.  During this one hour program, Dr. Magnus talked about AIAA reorganization using forums for grouping the space conferences and work carried out by the organization.  As we learned, AIAA is revitalizing the development and presentation of AIAA conferences and exhibitions in support of the AIAA mission. You can read about this new focus at www.aiaa.org/Forums/?terms=forums.  Listeners asked about the peer review process for papers being submitted to AIAA conferences, we talked about AIAA educational outreach efforts, especially for STEM matters.  Listeners wanted to know if AIAA backed projects, if the organization lobbied for space policy, and if it was an advocacy organization.  Dr. Magnus took us through the AIAA policy on these issues which did clarify AIAA positions and policy. We also talked about a blurring of the lines with defense and space policy issues and their efforts in helping to accomplish ITAR reform as an educational 501C3 organization.  Dr. Magnus was asked about the planned commercial Mars missions, SLS, commercial space, and more. Don’t miss what she had to say abut all of these projects.  We talked about the upcoming Space 2013 Conference in San Diego (www.aiaa.org/SPACE2013).  Dr. Magnus highlighted keynote speakers, the Pickering Lecture on Curiosity, the NASA asteroid mission, and their Exhibit Hall.  I will be at the conference so if you are there, please look for me as I value meeting Space Show listeners in person.  Another topic of interest included the local AIAA sections and their monthly meetings.  You can find out about the local sections closest to you at www.aiaa.org/RegionSectionMap.aspx?id=14958.  Near the end of our discussion, I asked our guest about her experiences as an astronaut, being on board the ISS for 4.5 months, microgravity bone and muscle loss issues, exercising while on the ISS, and concern about riding the shuttle and the SRBs.  Dr. Magnus also did some real cooking in space and she shared some of her space cooking know how and experiences with us but unfortunately, no recipes.

If you have comments/questions, please post them on The Space Show blog.  If you have AIAA conference or other questions, send them to me and I will forward them to someone who can provide you with an answer.  See you in San Diego!

 

Dr. Dennis Bushnell, Tuesday, 7-23-13 July 24, 2013

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Dr. Dennis Bushnell, Tuesday, 7-23-13

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Guest:  Dr. Dennis Bushnell.   Topics:  We discussed Dr. Bushnell’s paper, TRL for space development & how best to move forward with civil space.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed back to the program Dr. Dennis Bushnell, the NASA Langley Research Center Chief Scientist.  Dr. Bushnell discussed his paper, “Advanced-to-Revolutionary Space Technology Options-The Responsibly Imaginable.” which can be downloaded at http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20130011698_2013011376.pdf.  In the first segment of our 1 hour 26 minute show, Dr. Bushnell summarized the findings in his paper and talked about how we are still building on technologies from the 50′s and 60′s that were based on “living better with chemistry” and ICBMs.  We began talking about advanced propulsion including nuclear, but our guest made it clear throughout our discussion that what was needed was a reduction in the cost of space access by a magnitude of 10, not by two which is what is happening with new commercial rockets coming on line.  In fact, later in the show when discussing commercial space, Dr. Bushnell was clear that to close a commercial space business plan the reduction in launch costs by a factor of ten was absolutely essential!  I asked our guest to tell us where the bottlenecks were and he said it was in the culture & big cultural changes were required to move forward.  He also talked about the need to experiment and try lots of options and ideas, to triage them, down select, fly them, and choose the best based on the engineering process he described.  We talked about the low technology readiness level (TRL) of many of today’s space ideas and technologies, that we have become focused on instant or near instant gratification but that the process he was talking about would extend over a 25 year period.  Given this, his paper is a frank and factual discussion of many of our space industry segments, a no nonsense, no Kool Aid TRL analysis of much of what we talk about and say we can now do in space or will be doing in the near term.  Safety was discussed, including microgravity, radiation, plus a mention of unknowns regarding what we already know about gut bacteria exposed to radiation given our limited amount of research on this topic to date. A listener asked him about physics as a main reason for space exploration and contrasted that to settlement as the main reason for HSF. Another listener asked him about his mentioning USAF comments that indicated space was a mature and declining industry.  We began talking about commercial space, but we talked about it through the second segment as well.  In this segment, Dennis talked about how we have created economic growth in the past but now we have not only the challenge of economic growth but sustainable jobs and sustaining our standard of living.  Terraforming Mars was discussed as part of our discussion about Inspiration Mars and Mars One HSF missions to Mars.  As this segment ended, a listener asked him about suborbital space and citizen science projects.

In the second segment, John Hunt called in to talk about the high cost of many advanced space technologies, plus he wanted updates on LENR (this used to be called cold fusion).  Dr. Bushnell had much to say about LENR and it potential, we talked about Rossi, and the NASA work being done to better understand LENR effects. With an understanding of it, funding would not be as big a problem as it is today.  He also said LENR had the potential to be transmutational.  Our guest suggested that for more information, we visit the Larsen LENR slideshow:  www.slideshare.net/lewisglarsen/slideshows.  Again, he pointed to cultural issues as major stumbling blocks to this research.  In returning to the focus of his paper, he said there was no shortage of ideas but the culture was preventing them from being tried, tested, and exploited.  Rocket reusability was brought up, our guest mentioned the SpaceX Grasshopper work, and he was asked about SLS and fuel depots.  I asked about BLEO issues and radiation.  In response to another question, he said that were he the space guru, he would focus on “energy” and structural materials. You will want to hear this discussion. Later, Tim called from Huntsville about radiation and HSF to Mars, as well as the economics of the Big Dumb Booster.  I asked Dennis about the target audience for his paper and he said it was meant for NASA and the world since space fairing is a world endeavor. He again talked about potential revolutionary technologies which are needed and which would benefit all of us.  He repeated that we must do the difficult and take the risk and invest.  We also need to look forward with multiyear planning.  Near the end of the program, Dennis was asked about space elevators which he was not enthusiastic about.  Again, he repeated that we needed to make investments to raise our TRL levels.  At the end, I asked why space does not rise to importance in presidential campaigns & elections.  He said space was very good as an Earth utility but beyond that, there was no clear basis for most of it and that was the problem. Don’t miss his comments on this topic.  Our final topic was his assessment of commercial space given his years spent working on it with NASA including budgets into the hundreds of millions to find a way to close a commercial space business case for commercializing the ISS and other things.  This is a very important short discussion, don’t miss it.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can email Dr. Bushnell through me or you can find his address using the NASA email locator.

Gerald (Jerry) Carr, Friday, 6-28-13 June 28, 2013

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Gerald (Jerry) Carr, Friday, 6-28-13

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Guest: Gerald (Jerry) Carr.  Topics:  Astronaut Scholarship Foundation, the Skylab space station.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.   For those of you interested in the opportunity to submit feedback on the NRC congressionally mandated Human Spaceflight Study, please go to www.nationalacademies.org/humanspaceflight.  Please remember that your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm).

We welcomed retired Skylab astronaut Jerry Carr back to the program to discuss the Astronaut Scholarship Foundation (www.astronautscholarship.org) and the 40th anniversary of the Skylab space station.  Jerry the discussion with an overview of the Astronaut Scholarship Foundation, the STEM college scholarships it awards each year, auctions held to support the scholarship program as well as sales off the gift store on their website.  We then switched over to Skylab nothing that there will be a 40th anniversary celebration at KSC on July 27.  You can find out more about this celebration on the Astronaut Scholarship Foundation website.  I asked Jerry to describe for us one of his most memorable Skylab experiences and he talked about going into the command module flying over the Pacific and the views he saw as Skylab traveled in its orbit from Japan to the Pacific Northwest and more.  This is a great description of his view, don’t miss it.  Listeners asked Jerry multiple questions about Skylab, his experiences on board, comparing Skylab to the ISS and Skylab to the Mir.  We even talked about Skylab food and butter cookies, 0 g adaptation, close calls, and getting stuck in the center of Skylab.  Later in the segment, Jerry talked about consulting for space station human design factors for the ISS, then budget issues for Skylab as compared to NASA budget issues of today. We also talked about lessons learned throughout the program.  He was asked about inflatable commercial space stations & the time capsule they left on board when they departed the station.

In the second segment, a listener asked if the time capsule was recovered or could have survived reentry.  Another listener asked about the Skylab data still coming under analysis, then I asked about his public speaking engagements and if he could spot trends over time in terms people’s interest in space and science.  Jerry had much to say in response to several questions on this theme so don’t miss them.  Tony wanted to know about space radiation issues, Mars One, & artificial gravity with tethers.  Near the end, a listener brought up the recent interview with Rand Simberg and his space safety argument in his new book, “Safe Is Not An Option.”  We talked about risk taking, the mission, even risk taking landing on carriers and flying combat missions with the Marines.  He thought there might be too much risk averseness out of politically correct thinking but don’t miss all of his comments on this subject.  Our final topic focused on art with his wife Pat.  Check out their exhibit, OUR FRAGILE HOME at www.camusart.com.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can contact our guest through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

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