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Rick Tumlinson, Sunday, 2-9-14 February 10, 2014

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Rick Tumlinson, Sunday, 2-9-14


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Guest:  Rick Tumlinson.  Topics:  Commercial space ventures, space advocacy, DSI, Orbital Outfitters & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Rick Tumlinson back to the show for this 1 hour 53 minute program to discuss Rick’s commercial space ventures, space advocacy, NASA, space development and exploration challenges & methods for moving the “revolution” forward.  In the first segment, Rick opened up with updates for Deep Space Industries (DSI), asteroid mining, NEO defense, and more.  We also talked about Rules of the Road and possible industry regulation that the FAA is now talking about.  Much time was spent on possible NEO impacts.  We also started discussing the “opposition” to commercial space and new space directions over traditional aerospace programs and directions.  Following our discussion regarding DSI, we turned to another of Rick’s entrepreneurial companies, Orbital Outfitters.  Rick talked about their new & advanced spacesuit design version IS3, their opening R&D offices in Midland, Texas, plus he mentioned upcoming news with which the company will soon take public.  I asked Rick about modern day advocacy hurdles as compared to when the Space Frontier Foundation was first started.  This provoked lots of interesting comments and discussion points that crossed over into the second segment of our program.  However, he did say it was harder now so don’t miss the discussion and talking points.

In the second segment, we talked about the overall Texas commercial space development strategy, possible new spaceports for Texas, and their understanding of how the space industry is changing and becoming profitable.  We also talked about his most recent Huffington Post Op-Ed which will appear within a few days which was a reply to a Slate.com article by NYU Journalism Professor Charles Seife titled “What Is NASA For.”  You can see the article at
www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/mysteries_of_the_universe/2014/02/nasa_s_mission_its_search_for_meaning_has_limited_its_science_and_damaged.html.  While Rick pointed out the problems with the article, he also talked about the author’s perspective being valid.  Don’t miss this discussion.  We also talked about public/private partnerships with Doug & the need to be commercially profitable. Lots was said about HSF to Mars and Deimos, plus returning to the Moon.  Rick also talked science & robotic missions along with HSF missions.  As the program was ending, Rick talked Big Picture with us and being caught up in space advocacy battles & the path forward.  He talked about culture, space exploration & development benefits for all of humanity, benefit sharing, and more.  He repeated many times that we are at the cusp, a turning point, a paradigm change moment.

Please post your comments on TSS blog.  Rick provided his email address for contact during the show or you can reach him through me.


1. Jim Davis - February 12, 2014

I was struck by two things while listening to this show.

One, Doug from Southern California has become my favorite caller. Every call he makes leads to interesting and substantive discussion. Well done, Doug. Please keep calling.

Two, Rick Tumlinson is always a fascinating, must listen guest and he was in fine form here. But if there was ever a poster boy for how space advocacy can become a faith based secular religion he is it. He states his personal convictions as if they were divinely inspired, describes the future as if he had received angelic visions, and dismisses anyone with contrary opinions as heathens stuck in an obsolete paradigm.

None of this means that Tumlinson is necessarily wrong, of course. But a lot of people prefer fact and sound argument to personal conviction and emotional appeal.

Dwayne Day - February 15, 2014

Doug is smart, but it seems like he calls into every show. In fact, you can count on Doug, John, or one of the Charles guys to call in for virtually every show. I know that David wants others to call in and has tried to encourage them, but the _same_ people calling in all the time makes it seem stale, even if they are insightful.

As for Tumlinson, he’s not that different from a lot of the repeat guests. Anybody who appears semi-regularly is a broken record. They say the same things every single time, and nobody should be surprised.

A few comments about Tumlinson:

“Senate Launch System”–a tired joke that stopped being funny three years ago. He needs a new joke writer.

Human civilizations have been wiped out by asteroids? Name them.

Comparing NASA and aerospace companies to Al Qaeda? What, the Nazis were becoming too cliche?

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