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John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 9-24-14 September 25, 2014

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John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 9-24-14

Featuring Michael Listner


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Guests: John Batchelor, Michael Listner, Dr. David Livingston. Topics:  Jeff Bezos & Elon Musk on reusability, competition.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com.  Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm).  For those of you listening to archives on live365.com & rating the programs, please email me the reasons for your rating. This will definitely help improve Space Show programming. Thank you.

We welcomed back Michael Listner to discuss recent issues arising with the competition of SpaceX and Blue Origin (Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk) regarding reusability, barge landings in the water, patents, RD180 engine development and more. As you will hear, Blue Origin was awarded a patent on a barge landing in water which SpaceX is protesting.  Also, Blue Origin entered into an agreement with ULA, Boeing & Lockheed for a replacement engine for the RD180 based upon the Blue BE4 engine that has been in development for a few years.  Michael discusses these issues with us on this edition of Hotel Mars.

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1. Kirk - September 27, 2014

In both this show and the 26 September Space Show (with guest Rod Pyle) the subject of the BE-4 engine replacement announcement for the RD-180 was raised, and in both cases David Livingston noted that it was strange considering the significantly lower projected thrust of the BE-4: 550,000 lbf vs. about 930,000 lbf (vac.) for the RD-180.

According to the 17 September SpaceNews coverage of the announcement: “Two BE-4 engines generating a combined 1.1 million pounds of thrust at sea level would power the new rocket’s first stage, Bruno said. The current Atlas 5 first stage is powered by a single RD-180 generating close to 1 million pounds of thrust.”

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