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Open Lines, Tuesday, 4-28-15 April 29, 2015

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Open Lines, Tuesday, 4-28-15


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Guest:  Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  Space Show website & possible crowd funding program, a variety of other space topics.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

Welcome to this two hour Open Line discussion on a variety of topics.  Note that while I took two breaks during the discussion, I am still archiving the show in just two segments.  During the first segment, my suggested discussion topics included my response to an April 10 email from Doug wondering why I strongly believe that the economic development of space will be a sizeable part of the future economy.  I answered this question for Doug on air and during the show a few listeners added to my answer.  My next suggested topic dealt with The Space Show website problems and the development of a new site to be funded by a crowd funding program.  I asked listeners for suggestions for incentives to offer contributors to the crowd funding venture. While most offered excellent and serious suggestions, one or two listeners responded with sarcastic comments and probably in their mind, funny comments.  But I am very serious about this.  The Space Show website is moving, we are trying to move the existing site to stay up with something that works and all of you are familiar with as a completely new site needs to be funded.  If you do have suggestions for incentives for supporting our crowd funding effort, post them on the blog or email them to me.  I appreciate this.  Our first caller was Andrew in Tucson who called from the top of Kitt Peak as he was there working two telescopes and doing observatory work.  We talked with Andrew about his work and project, the telescopes, life on Kitt Peak, light pollution in the area and more.  We also talked with him about other observatories in Tucson and Flagstaff, plus since he has been to Mauna Kea in Hawaii, we talked about that as well.  I planned a visit to him on Kitt Peak and will do some recorded interviews while there for future Space Show program.

We took a break at the top of the hour and returned to talk with Jeff from Tucson about his work with Andrew and his thoughts on the ULA-Vulcan project plus comments by the new ULA head, Tory Bruno.  I asked if he had read the recent Space Cynics post on ULA Vulcan by Shubber Ali who pretty much dissed the venture (see https://spacecynic.wordpress.com – the lead post).  Jeff briefly looked at it and said it lacked numbers and fact and was an opinion piece. What Jeff then had to say was based on engineering, numbers, and fact and he thought it was a good project.  Don’t miss what Jeff had to say about ULA Vulcan as it was a good call.  Jeff’s called sparked others to comment on both ULA and SpaceX and I made the case for needing both companies and more to help the emerging commercial space industry grow and develop.  I also commented that the one or the other mentality or moon vs. mars or being forced to make choices at the expense of other valid choices was counter-productive and not supportive of industrial growth yet I realize we are living in tight budget times.  We took another short break, then Tim called in to disagree with an earlier guest on the possible use of RTGs on the Moon and the use of material such as Plutonium 239 or substitute materials that may be cheaper and in more abundant supply.  Mike called to advocate for getting Ms. Shotwell of SpaceX back on the show, then Doug called to question the year long ISS experiment with Scott Kelly.  Rather than using a time line for the mission parameter, he wanted to suggest targeted objectives to meet.  While I thought his idea was a good one, I was at a loss how to suggest he go about getting changes in the mission design for this experiment.  I did suggest I would see if I could find who designed this mission and get them to be on The Space Show. If any of you have specific information on this, please let me know.

Post your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  You can reach any of the participants in tonight’s program through me.


1. ericmachmer - May 6, 2015

The suggestion that Scott Kelly be encouraged to stay on ISS as long as possible – at least to a time equivalent to Mars fly-by/return – could be adopted as a Space Show inspired project. This could be a topic for a Space Show show in itself, a Hotel Mars program, and formally clothed very quickly as an endeavor worth serious legitimate consideration. The Mars Society and Lunar COTS etc could come together to support such an initiative. Scott seems like the type of person who would welcome professional support for his continued stay…just a guess and of course it would ultimately be up to him to decide whether to extend his mission beyond ~530 days, Scott seems like the type of person who would be up for such a heroic once-in-a-lifetime challenge. Its acronym could even be The Space Show’s Project HERO.

An article (by Doug?) could be published on the Space Review next week…Hotel Mars could interview Doug the next week, the following weekend a special edition of the Space Show with Doug as a guest defending this idea could be aired, encouraging programmed call-ins by professions in support of the idea who are familiar with the Space Show and supportive of the ideas of Project HERO as laid out in The Space Review. Even Scott Kelly could call in as a surprise guest : )

Anyhow, this is a wonderful idea…doable and resulting in valuable new science – initiated by The Space Show. Hope this is followed up, really exciting initiative!

2. Michael J. Listner - April 30, 2015

I enjoyed the segment where Jeff from Tuscon came on and gave his views on ULA’s Vulcan rocket. It was a excellent discussion. I would like to see Tory Bruno as a guest on The Space Show. He’s a dynamic speaker and a smart operator. It would make for an excellent show.

Jeff Smith - April 30, 2015

Thanks Michael.
The worst part is that we didn’t even get into any of the details of my analysis! Oh well, we ended up talking about the SpaceX vs ULA religious war most of the time. Suffice it to say, ULA made some REALLY good decisions with this rocket and it’ll be a real winner.

Michael J. Listner - April 30, 2015

I’m not an engineer Jeff, but from what I see the Vulcan is going to be a great launcher to have in the inventory and deserves a much broader discussion. This is why I think it would be great to get Bruno on The Space Show. The Space X vs. ULA rhetoric is just that. Let’s get Mr. Bruno on the Show so we can learn more about the Vulcan.

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