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Dr. John Jurist Webinar, Sunday, 4-26-15 April 25, 2015

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                Dr. John Jurist Webinar, Sunday, 4-26-15

Selecting The Rocket Motor, Fuel, & Trade To Optimize The Mission

Listeners:

In advance of this webinar on Sunday, April 26, 2015 from 1-3 PM PDT (4-6 PM EDT and 3-5 PM CDT), Dr. Jurist has requested I upload two Power Point presentations which will be referred to on an ongoing basis during the webinar.  You will find both Power Points below.

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Dr. Guillem Anglada Escude, Friday, 4-24-15 April 25, 2015

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Dr. Guillem Anglada Escude, Friday, 4-24-15

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Guest:  Dr. Guillem Anglada.  Topics, Gilese 581d, exoplanets, detection methods, physics, astronomy and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed Dr. Guillem Anglada to the show from the UK to speak with us about Gilese 581d, exoplanet detection methods, specifically Doppler spectroscopy, and more.  During our one segment one hour discussion, Dr. Anglada explained to us why Gilese 581d (G 581d) has become a benchmark for the Doppler technique for finding exoplanets.  In explaining this to us, we also defined and talked about the habitable zone and why the Doppler technique works better for nearby stars as lots of light is needed.  We talked about the G system red dwarf or low mass star.  I asked our guest about telescopes and just how big a telescope had to be to see G581d for example.  At this point in the discussion, we began getting a series of email questions from listeners that were technical and superb.  I read them all on air ranging from asking about microlensing to occulters, to questions about our Sun and much more.  I asked Dr. Anglada what Earth would be like were we standing on G 581d and trying to detect Earth.  Do not miss his answer, it might surprise you.  Listeners also asked about the impact of the exoplanet field on students and if it was driving STEM enrollment.  We got two emails from a new country during this show as Michael sent in questions from Slovenia.  In one question, he asked about a free-flying coronagraph that could occult stars for direct imaging, especially for ground based telescopes.  There was more to his question so don’t miss it.  His other question was about detecting Oort cloud objects.  Our emailers asked about the transit method for finding exoplanets and our guest discussed alternative methods as well.  We talked about future exoplanet finding missions similar to Kepler such as TESS and PLATO.  Near the end of the show BJohn in one of his questions asked about the use of radio waves for finding exoplanets. This is a very informative and high level discussion with our guest who we will certainly have back on The Space Show.

 

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can reach our guest through me or his university’s faculty page.

The John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 4-22-15 April 23, 2015

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The John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 4-22-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2459-BWB-2015-04-22.mp3

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Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. William Bottke, Dr. David Livingston. Topics: New theories on the creation of the Moon. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm). For those of you listening to archives on live365.com & rating the programs, please email me the reasons for your rating. This will definitely help improve Space Show programming. Thank you. Please note that audio and transition issues are a result of copying the John Batchelor broadcast & are not within my control as they originate in the Batchelor studio.

 

John Batchelor and I welcomed Dr. William Bottke to Hotel Mars to discuss his work and new paper regarding a new theory on how our Moon was formed. You can read his paper in Science, “Evidence for Moon-Forming Impact Found Inside Meteorites at http://www.sciencemag.org/content/348/6232/321. During our segment, Dr. Bottke talked about this new work, high impact velocity, lunar creation, and more. Near the end, we talked about Ceres and our lunar similarities with dwarf planets.

 

You can email Mr. Batchelor or Dr. Bottke through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Thomas Marotta, Tuesday, 4-21-15 April 22, 2015

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Thomas Marotta, Tuesday, 4-21-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2458-BWB-2015-04-21.mp3

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Guest:  Thomas Marotta.  Topic:  March Storm 2015 Citizen Space Agenda.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed Tom Marotta to the show to discuss his March Storm experiences and the March Storm agenda.  For more information, visit both the March Storm website, www.marchstorm.com and his personal website, www.thisorbitallife.com.  During the first segment of our 91 minute discussion, Tom started out by introducing us to March Storm, then he talked about his decision to participate this year and the training that followed before meeting with members of congress.  Throughout the segment he was asked about the training by various listeners.  It was one day, it included lots of role playing, and extensive familiarization with the March Storm agenda and issues.  Those participating also did due diligence on the members of congress they were intending to visit.  Efforts were made to match participants with congressional members from their local districts or at least their home state.  I asked Tom several general questions including those pertaining to the gender of the participants, age, and diversity.  Tom then spoke about the Citizens Space Agenda for March Storm which included five areas, the SEDS Act, the Cheap Access to Space act and prize, to fully fund commercial crew, to extend the learning period of the FAA for suborbital and commercial spaceflight without burying the industry in excessive regulation, and to avoid the loss of the ISS should the Russians really remove their module as they have indicated they might do.  The total number of briefings for March Storm were 127, most of which took place with staffers.  Throughout out discussion, Tom pointed out the wide range in interest, awareness, and knowledge of the staffers ranging from not interested and no knowledge to just the opposite.  Tom also highlighted Congressman Dana Rohrabacher and his staff as an example of being very interested in space and the March Storm agenda.  In fact he said that congress would pass he SEDS Act though no timeline was given.  Before the end of the first segment, I asked Tom for a realistic assessment of actual congressional support and action on their agenda. Don’t miss his assessment.

 

In the second segment, we talked more about training, writing to members of congress, I gave a rant on petitioning our government on issues we are passionate about including space, then TR asked if members of congress think about detailed issues like artificial gravity.  Tom said they did not lobby on specific issues such as stated in the TR email, instead they stuck to their agenda and were very specific in not asking for money or money driven legislation.  Human spaceflight safety came up in an email listener question as did the SpaceShip2 accident.  Space Settlement was a major topic in a call by John from Ft. Worth.  As the show was ending, we talked about a congressional joint resolution rather than a law and Tom called for those in California, Texas, Maryland and Florida to contact their members of congress on the March Storm agenda.

 

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above. You can reach Tom through his site or me.

 

Dr. Donald Rapp, Monday, 4-20-15 April 21, 2015

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Dr. Donald Rapp, Monday, 4-20-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2457-BWB-2015-04-20.mp3

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Guest:  Dr. Donald Rapp.  We discussed using indigenous resources to facilitate HSF to Mars, then the great climate change debate based on facts not agendas.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed back to the show Dr. Donald Rapp to discuss two important topics.  In the first segment we addressed using indigenous resources to facilitate human spaceflight to Mars and the MOXIE experiment on Mars 2020.  In the second segment, Dr. Rapp examined the climate change debate without out preconceived belief systems by an honest examination of the data.  To start our first segment, Dr. Rapp talked about the massive amounts of propellant needed for a human mission to Mars which then led us to discussing using resources on Mars to make propellant for the return to Earth.  Our guest was asked about going to Mars via the Moon and using lunar ice to make propellant for the Mars mission.  This proved to be quite a mini-discussion as Dr. Rapp was skeptical about the use of lunar resources including water ice as an assist for a manned Mars mission.  Many listeners asked him challenging questions about his position and conclusions do don’t miss this important discussion.  Later in the segment a listener asked Dr. Rapp about the potential benefits of using nuclear power and nuclear propulsion.  This too was a fascinating mini-discussion so don’t miss it, especially the call on the subject from listener Kris.  Dr. Rapp was asked about the MOXIE experiment which we talked about at length, then he was asked about the need for heavy lift rockets to Mars.  Our guest supported heavy lift which he defined as a 100-120 tons to LEO.

 

In the second segment, climate change was our main topic.  Here he talked about extreme agendas by both the climate alarmists and the climate skeptics and said a new group was emerging which he called the “lukewarmists” who actually and honestly evaluated the data without a preconceived belief system.  Dr. Rapp went through the known facts, the history of the subject, the warming periods, the CO2 levels and where on Earth warming mostly took place though there has been no warming from 1998-2015.  We talked about sunspots and climate change and the impact of El Nino and La Nina.  He also talked about global energy usage and the projected increases for the 21st century and beyond.  The increasing use of power and pollution by China and India were important factors in this discussion.  Listeners had many questions for him including many wanting a way to deal with excessive, costly and unscientific regulations that are forced on the people by politicians who don’t know the facts and have an agenda to their behavior.  No solutions were offered.  A teacher wrote in about the challenges she has teaching factual climate change to her students because parents on both sides of the issue come in and complain that the “truth” was not being taught in the class.  Dr. Rapp offered us concluding remarks around the basic idea that everything is complicated including sending humans to Mars and dealing with climate change issues.

 

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Dr. John Jurist & Kobi Hudson, Sunday, 4-19-15 April 20, 2015

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Dr. John Jurist & Kobi Hudson, Sunday, 4-19-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2456-BWB-2015-04-19.mp3

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Guests:  Dr. John Jurist, Kobi Hudson.  Topics:  Orbital ATK 5 segment booster test and the ISS Algae experiment.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed Dr. John Jurist and Kobi Hudson to the program to discuss their recent experiences at the Orbital ATK 5 segment booster test in Utah and the ISS algae experiment Kobi and his teammates are working on at this time.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 58 minute discussion, John and Kobi talked about viewing the Orbital ATK 5 segment booster test this past March in Utah.  John has attended all the 5 segment booster tests but this was the first one for Kobi who is one of John’s students at Rocky Mountain College in Billings, MT.  Kobi described the test, what it looked like and how it felt from the viewing area, the networking opportunities he had with those attending the test including many executives from across our aerospace industry & NASA.  I asked John and Kobi if they sensed that the Orbital ATK team was aware of the controversy surrounding the final destination for the booster, SLS.  We talked about this for several minutes.  I think you will find what both John and Kobi had to say about this to be very interesting.  This discussion took us into an SLS discussion but from a slightly different perspective than our usual Space Show SLS discussions.  A listener asked our guests if either of them noticed a cultural difference in the test team given the Orbital and ATK merger.  Kobi was asked if the test and the experience inspired him to want to work in the aerospace field which it did.

 

In the second segment, Marshall called to inquire about the use of liquid rocket motors as compared to solids and wanted to know which type was more efficient. Both John and Marshall seemed to agree that it might depend on which type of propulsion system gets more launches and usage though the solids are far simpler.  As part of this discussion, the political dimensions of decision making were brought up as they play a role in the propulsion system and thus influence efficiencies.  Next, we turned to Kobi to explain to us the algae experiment he and others are working and which will fly to the ISS on the SpaceX 7 launch.  Behind this experiment is the goal of testing how well algae grows and how much carbon dioxide it consumes in a zero-gravity environment.  They want to see if it can influence the presence of oxygen in the spaceship.  The algae is grown in an agar solid media.  Kobi went into details on this experiment which I believe you will find of interest. When the team gets the data back from the 28 day test, Kobi will come back to the show to update us on what they found out.  Later in the segment, SLS John called in to follow up on our earlier SLS conversation and the proposed NASA ARM.  Several listener questions came in by email regarding both the issue of solids vs. liquids and the algae experiment.  Kobi also got a question or two about this work on the Firebird cubesat program.  He said it used a polar orbit , was then asked if cubesats could go to the Moon or elsewhere and he said probably but challenging. Doug called to talk closed loop life support and related issues.  The last question came from a high school senior asking Kobi about the need to attend a Tier One school and the consequences for going to a school not as well known and not as highly ranked.  All three of us, Kobi, myself, and John responded to this question saying about the same thing but in different words.  Both John and Kobi offered concluding comments you don’t want to miss.

 

Please post your comments and questions on TSS blog above.  You can reach both guests through me.

 

 

Dr. Chris Impey, Friday, 4-17-15 April 18, 2015

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Dr. Chris Impey, Friday, 4-17-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2455-BWB-2015-04-17.mp3

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Guest:  Dr. Chris Impey.  Topics:  “Beyond: Our Future In Space” plus many space policy issues and our future in space.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed back Dr. Chris Impey to the program for this 63 minute program discussing his latest book “Beyond: Our Future In Space” and related policy, economic, and technical space questions.  Visit his website, www.chrisimpey.com for more information.  Please remember if you buy his book through TSS/OGLF Amazon portal, Amazon will donate a percentage of the sales price to The Space Show.  Instructions are on the website and all archived show summaries.  We began our discussion with Dr. Impey providing us with the background to his latest book in that many people believe that our space program is in the doldrums, that NASA is beset with many problems and for some, they wonder why even bother with space.  Dr. Impey wanted to show the audience that this was not the case so he wrote his latest book to show the benefits of space development and why we must have a future in space.  The book mostly focuses on the human spaceflight potential but we discussed science missions and a space program that would be much broader than just human spaceflight.  He also said the new industry was ready to go viral but had not done so yet.  He suggested some dramatic events might be the turning point in changing the momentum so don’t miss what he had to say about this.  We talked about NASA and NewSpace and he said it was no longer either or and that NASA was now partnering with NewSpace companies and the private sector.  Dr. Impey highlighted the growth in the cubesat industry as an example of things changing.  We talked about international space missions and he mentioned both Russia and China.  With regards to China, ITAR was discussed as was the potential militarization of space.  A listener asked our guest about an economic model and he said that was still troubling.  He thought mining asteroids would not be viable if at all for a very long time.  Listen to his explanation behind this conclusion.  On the other hand, he thought space tourism was shaping up to have a robust market and was optimistic that the companies would soon be flying.  I asked him for his five year timeline for big events.  He listed operations with SpaceShip2 and Virgin and that SpaceX will commercialize reusability.  He also expected to see fleets of commercially operating nano and microsats.  Next,, he said the Moon or Mars was harder with people and that would take place over the next 10-15 years.  He suggested China would visit the Moon with taikonauts in about a 15 year time frame.  He said the Moon would happen when we have a new generation of talent and innovative people pushing it at the ground floor level.  Listener Larry asked him about the regulatory risk.  He thought it would be relatively stable as it is now.  BJohn asked him about planetary science, astrobiology, geology, and biology along with the Big Bang Theory.  Next, we discussed astronomy, including Earth astronomy but also exoplanets and the habitable zone.  A listener asked him about finding life on Mars, either past or present and how that might impact the public with supporting space.  Chris had very interesting comments about this so don’t miss them.  Another listener asked him for his preference in destinations, the Moon or Mars.  He said the Moon.  Listen for the why.  Space settlement was discussed, more on the NASA budget and a question came up about the use of nuclear propulsion.  Near the end of the show he was asked about efforts in pursuing Faster Than Light Travel (FTL) and warp drive.  He was not optimistic in this area.  As the program was ending, I asked our guest how university teaching had changed over the course of his career.  This led us to talking about student loans and university funding from the state and federal government.

 

Please post your comments on TSS blog above. You can reach Dr. Impey through me or his blog.

The John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 4-15-15 April 16, 2015

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The John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 4-15-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2454-BWB-2015-04-15.mp3

Special Guest:  Rand Simberg

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Guests: John Batchelor, Rand Simberg, Dr. David Livingston. Topics: Space X Falcon 9 launch & landing attempt plus ULA Vulcan rocket. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm). For those of you listening to archives on live365.com & rating the programs, please email me the reasons for your rating. This will definitely help improve Space Show programming. Thank you. Please note that audio and transition issues are a result of copying the John Batchelor broadcast & are not within my control as they originate in the Batchelor studio.

 

John Batchelor and I welcomed back Rand Simberg to discuss the recent Falcon 9 launch and barge landing attempt of the Falcon 9 first stage. In addition to discussing these events, we talked about the recent SpaceX statements about trying to land the first stage on land at either the Cape or Vandenberg. Rand talked about what would be needed to do that. Next, we talked about the recent press conference and release of information by ULA regarding their Vulcan rocket project and their plans to recover the first stage rocket motor. Rand also had much to say about the CEO at ULA and the different direction the company seems to be taking.

 

You can email Mr. Batchelor or Rand Simberg through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and by using Anatoly’s website

Rand Simberg, Tuesday, 4-14-15 April 15, 2015

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Rand Simberg, Tuesday, 4-14-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2453-BWB-2015-04-14.mp3

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Guest: Rand Simberg. Topics: SpaceX, ULA, Mars, space policy, Moon N=Mars debate and much more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Rand Simberg to the program. During the first segment of our 100 minute program, Rand discussed the Falcon 9 launch and barge landing attempt of the first stage. Before he finished his discussion, Dr. Lurio called in and joined in on the speculation as to why the landing was unsuccessful. Both Rand and Charles thought it might be wind but as you will hear, that was just their opinion. Next, the two of them turned to the ULA announcement about the Vulcan rocket and their plans to recover in air from a supersonic parachute using a helicopter. They want to recover the rocket’s main engine. This discussion between Charles and Rand dominated the first segment of the program. Near the end of the first segment, I asked Rand about the ARM and it being redirected to Mars and Phobos. Rand had much to say about this so don’t miss it.

In the second segment, in response to earlier comments made by Rand in the first segment, Sally sent in a note asking if the next NASA administrator might make a difference and actually matter. Again, don’t miss what Rand had to say about this plus bipartisanship and the work of Congressman Dana Rohrabacher who wants to change the our space policy to one of having the main purpose to settle space. Rand also said he would personally like to “ban” the phrase space exploration. Listen to his explanation on this point. Rand was asked about the Moon-Mars debate which he thought was absurd given that the issue was not about destinations but getting the needed infrastructure in space so one can go anywhere. Without the infrastructure, even a gravity lab, talking destinations makes no sense. Due to a few listener questions, Rand also had some choice comments for Mars One. Another listener asked Rand what parts of the commercial space industry impressed him the most. This led to a discussion about suborbital flight and markets. Becky asked him about his Transterrestrial blog (http://www.transterrestrial.com) and the non-space portion of it, I asked him about military space and then Tim called to talk about affordable small sat launches and to inquire if we were embarking on a space race over low cost launch opportunities that may be emerging. Rand also talked about the upcoming Space Access Society meeting and the talk he plans to give at the event. Rhonda in Petaluma asked Rand what caused his transition from traditional aerospace to NewSpace. Don’t miss this, it is really interesting.

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Dr. Erik Conway, Monday, 4-13-15 April 14, 2015

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Dr. Erik Conway

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2452-BWB-2015-04-13.mp3

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Guest:  Dr. Erik Conway.  Topics:  Dr. Conway’s book, “Exploration and Engineering: The Jet Propulsion Laboratory and the Quest for Mars”  & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Erik Conway to the show to discuss his new book, “Exploration and Engineering: The Jet Propulsion Laboratory and the Quest for Mars,” JPL history, engineering, Mars missions, and much more all from the historical perspective.  In the first segment of our 1 hour 28 minute discussion, I asked Dr. Conway how JPL engineers did things that led to major Mars exploration breakthroughs.  He cited the Mars Pathfinder mission as an example and the decision to use airbags for the landing.  Dr. Conway took us through the process, the cost benefit analysis of the decision and the role played by budgets, the engineers, policy makers, and others contributing to the mission.  Our guest provided us with other examples as well from other Mars projects and missions.  Listeners asked our guest about human missions.  Here, Dr. Conway had much to say throughout our discussion focusing on the fact that humans are dirty with bacteria, planetary protection is a priority, and there is zero risk or near zero risk for a human mission.  When asked if the Moon required the same planetary protection policies as Mars, he said no though in the early days of lunar exploration, it did.  I asked our guest about the roles played by policy makers and engineers and this resulted is a very interesting discussion. Don’t miss it.  Listener Barbara in Seattle asked our guest about Curiosity cost overruns and how that would be reported on in history.  This led to a discussion about the impact of management and others on the initial design and budgets.  Later, Dr. Conway was asked why JPL had a focus on Mars in the first place.  Doug called in to ask about the humans vs. robot debate for science.  Don’t miss the response to this question by our guest.  Doug also brought up the issue of finding past or present life on Mars and what that might mean for future  Mars missions.  Dr. Conway agreed that probably all sides in the argument of avoiding Mars to avoid contaminating and disturbing life to the opposite perspective will be arguing the issues for a long time to come.  Dr. Conway addressed commercialization and while supporting reduced launch costs said the cost reduction needed to be magnitudes lower than even the lower costs of today.  Dwayne called and addressed planetary protection, then he turned his attention toward asking about the research opportunities at JPL for outside historical researchers.  Erik explained why these opportunities were limited, partly holding ITAR responsible.

In the second segment, Erik talked about the risk versus return on the costs.  He talked about there being almost zero tolerance for accidents and losses with Mars missions and human missions.  He also said the zero risk tolerance for these missions has been a significant cost driver.  Our guest had much to say on this subject with regards to Mars so don’t miss it as it covered most of the second segment. Later in this segment, Jake inquired about the early JPL history and its founders and their impact on the JPL of today.  Penny wanted to know about the Cal Tech-JPL relationship.  Dwayne sent in an email asking about the Faster, Better, Cheaper programs and what happened with the JPL programs using this approach.  This was an interesting way to wind up the show. As we were ending we learned that Goddard has no historian so their programs are not being recorded or document.  I sked Erik the difference in JPL and the APL.  Note how he explained the difference between the two labs, their risk tolerance, and decision process.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  You can reach Dr. Conway through JPL or me.

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