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Dr. Charles Lurio, Tuesday, 11-10-15 November 11, 2015

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Dr. Charles Lurio, Tuesday, 11-10-15

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Guest: Dr. Charles Lurio.  Topic:  Commercial Space law updates, NASA, SLS, HSF, space leadership plus more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed back Dr. Charles Lurio for this comprehensive commercial space update plus Dr. Lurio took a hard look at human spaceflight.  During the first segment of our nearly 1 hour 55 minute show, Charles started with the news that broke just before airtime that congress had approved the new commercial space legislation.  The House and Senate compromised on the learning period extending it to 2023.  Charles hit on some highlights of the bill but said he had not yet had time to read the final version since the news literally broke minutes before air time.  Other first segment discussion topics included the return to flight for Falcon 9 and the Cygnus which will launch on an Atlas 5 until Antares has a return to flight sometime early next year.  Charles talked about the new Russian rocket motor for Antares and its relationship to other major Russian rocket motors.  Next, we talked about the NASA delay for the commercial cargo awards and their letter to Boeing saying that the cargo version of the CST 100 was no longer under consideration.  Charles speculated that the delay might have been taken to allow for return to flight for the Falcon and for the Cygnus on the Atlas 5.  Paul in NY emailed Charles asking for him to tell us his favorite commercial space company and his favorite NewSpace company.  Charles said he loved SpaceX and commented on them moving the ground in the launch industry.  He said he has always been a fan of XCOR and gave us some update at to the XCOR progress and challenges, especially in their wing production.  Charles also said that the asteroid mining companies, particularly Deep Space Industries, were starting to attract foreign capital as he mentioned investment interest from the Czech Republic.  I asked Charles if he was satisfied with the way the industry was developing so far.  He said he was amazed with it and what has happened so far, but made the point that commercial space was far from being on easy street.  He then explained his comments listing examples to support his comments.  I asked him about the NASA Roadmap to Mars and he repeated back to me, you meant the “Jokemap” to Mars?  That should provide you with a clue as to the rest of the discussion on this topic.  Before the break, Don called from New Hampshire to talk about radiation, Brookhaven, and human spaceflight.  Charles and Don talked about shielding, the lack of real quality experiments plus finding out answers to other needed questions for HSF BELO including life support systems, microgravity, plus lots more. Charles concluded that NASA was not serious about space, something many guests have said over and over again in recent years.  Don said the system management was shortsighted.  Charles said what we needed was a new NACA, not so much NASA.  This remained a theme for Charles for the rest of the show.  Before ending the call, Don talked about Japanese radiation experiments and equipment that NASA won’t use, citing NE213 and a newer version, EJ301.

 

In the second segment, I asked Charles what would be a reasonable set of expectations for our commercial and HSF program given the state of comprehensive matters facing the US and the world at this time in 2015.  Charles had some very interesting things to say in response to this question which actually commanded most of the second segment.  A subtopic in this discussion was the subject of technology and technology development.  Again, don’t miss what he said about technology.  I asked Charles about the development of cislunar space and the Moon.  He would welcome both but listen to all of what he had to say about this because he repeated himself that we were not doing anything.  Doug in S. California called in with multiple questions for Charles about what was needed for a flyby to Mars and more.  It appeared to me that Doug was not getting what Charles was talking about though Charles kept saying that Doug was not asking the right set of questions.  In summary, I think Doug was suggesting technology advancements lowering costs for example, would compel policy makers and the public to support and create the space policy we seem to yearn for when this subject comes up on the show. Charles kept repeating that the technology to be used was not the issue. Instead, the issue was political in that there was no will to do things, no leadership.  Since this is something I have ranted about on many Space Show programs, I supported Charles on the leadership issue and I do believe that having the will to do something serious in space and having the leadership to actually get policies in place that can be implemented are much bigger problems than the technology or even the financial side of things.  Once the policy and will are there, implementation is next and that is when technology will be looked at and decided upon.  See what you think about this discussion with Dr. Doug.  Later, on the same subject, Charles said it was very difficult to change society attitudes.  Doug Messier emailed in comments that it was easy to rant on NASA but pointed out the slow going of many commercial space projects from suborbital development to rocket development.  Doug suggested that had progress been faster, leadership and some of the issues Charles was bringing up would be there and the industry might be different today.  Both Charles and I agreed with Doug Messier except the reality on the ground is what has to be dealt with and for which solutions are needed regarding moving the commercial industry and HSF forward.  As the show was ending, Charles said development would not and does not follow a predicted path.  He also said that it was possible for there to be “moments of great acceleration” that could jump us forward.  This subject has not come up in recent years on TSS but it is worth noting that one cannot count on or build project around the hope for serendipity to change something.  Great if it happens but no way can one count on or plan  on it happening.  In the end, Charles and I both said that there is far more leadership awareness today than yesterday. I suggested that from Space Show interviews, lots of bright people were focused on solving this problem and I had faith that it would be solved though I had no idea of a timeline or what the solution would look like.  Charles concluded that commercial space and HSF will continue to evolve incrementally over time on an unpredicted path.

 

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Open Lines, Sunday, 11-8-15 November 9, 2015

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Open Lines, Sunday, 11-8-15

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Guest: Open Lines.   Topics:  We discussed multiple aerospace industry topics along with the possible impact of raising interest rates on NASA and the industry.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.  Welcome to our 1 hour 55 minute Open Lines discussion.

 

I started off the first segment with suggested show discussion topics, then John from Ft. Worth was our first caller to discuss the Don Nelson recent show and his idea for a fleet of modern private and commercial space shuttle freighters.  John had some interesting things to say about this idea as well as potential market issues given Don wants his freighters to be privately built and operated.  During the call with John, we talked about the possibility of the Federal Reserve raising interest rates and what that may mean for the space industry as well as other segments of our economy.  Though the NASA part of the budget is small, it is visible and it could be adversely impacted by a rise in interest rates as more money will have to go to paying the interest on our national debt.  Our next caller was Jeff from Tucson.  Jeff pointed out large aerospace industry trends and addressed the recent NASA delay in commercial cargo awards though they told Boeing they were no longer under consideration with the CST100.  Jeff also spoke about other projects with SpaceX, Orbital ATK, ULA and Aerojet Rocketdyne.  He spent a good portion of his discussion time talking about problems facing Aerojet Rocketdyne, possible merger solutions and parts of the business which it may need to let go as compared to pursue and continue developing.

 

In the second segment, Tim called in with questions about Maven and the recent announcement regarding the Martian atmosphere.  Doug was our next caller. Doug is planning a debate at the upcoming ISDC meeting next year on cislunar plans starring himself with his plan and John Strickland with his plan.  Doug talked about the differences between his position and John’s, wanted to our thoughts on adding more people to the debate with their cislunar ideas, then I asked Doug what his expected outcome was for doing this.  Don’t miss what he said about his expectations.  I told him I would be glad to do a Space Show debate with John and him as a “warmup” to the ISDC event.  I hope that happens.  Doug concluded his call saying he still hoped to call The Space Show while riding and trying to eat on the Gravitron at his local theme park while spinning at 24 rpms.  If he manages to this, it should be an interesting call.

 

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Rand Simberg, Friday, 9-11-15 September 12, 2015

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Rand Simberg, Friday, 9-11-15

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Guest: Rand Simberg. Topics: The Roadblock to Mars and Rand’s recent Kickstarter campaign success. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Rand Simberg back to the show to discuss his recent successful Kickstarter campaign, “Clearing The Roadblock To Mars.” Check it out at www.kickstarter.com/projects/1960236542/clearing-the-roadblock-to-mars. During the first segment of our 1 hour 32 minute show, Rand introduced us to the purpose of this campaign which was to show how much better and wiser NASA could use the funds now being spent on SLS. Or as Rand said throughout our discussion, to get more bang for the buck. Of course this assumes NASA would use the savings wisely. In this segment, Rand spent considerable time addressing the lack of SLS missions, the types of missions SLS might be used for but so far no such SLS missions have been settled on, plus he talked about having more efficiency by using smaller rockets, more launches and fuel depots. He also said we were not serious about space as evidence by the SLS program. Several listeners asked him about the trades between heavy lift and a smaller rocket, the risks involved, costs and more as this is a common debate topic in the industry. Rand said the debate would eventually be settled by market forces. I added in that the characteristics and performance of the rockets being used to settle the heavy lift or not question will also factor into any conclusions reached on this subject. Rand then talked about the Aerojet Rocketdyne announcement that they wanted to acquire ULA for $2 billion. This led to an additional discussion about the Atlas rocket, Russian rocket engines, Vulcan, and Blue Origin. He also answered specific questions about his Kickstarter project which he said was to show how much more could be done wit h the SLS money rather than spending it on SLS. In response to listener questions wanting him to compare SLS to Falcon Heavy, he said about three Falcon Heavy launches would equal one SLS launch. He advocated SpaceX do an Apollo 8 type of flight with the Falcon and Dragon but then said it probably would not happen because of their relationship with NASA.

As we started the second segment, Dr. Doug called from S. California to inquire about the technical capability of SLS and Falcon Heavy plus the ULA Vulcan medium to heavy lift rocket. In addition, Rand discussed the reusable Vulcan concept as compared to the SpaceX concept of landing on a barge. Rand was asked about the need for heavy lift for Mars. He made it clear he was not interested in Mars per se, instead, he wanted to lower the cost of space access to make it possible for anyone to go anywhere in the solar system, including Mars. Rand said over and over again that he was destination agnostic. He continued getting questions about heavy life vs. many smaller rocket launches. Rand said things like it was too risky to put all your eggs in one basket, i.e. the one big heavy lift launcher. Several listeners wanted to know the best path to try to influence the direction of space policy. Rand focused on congress and suggested visiting local congressional offices. Other listeners asked him about a possible increase in the NASA budget. He said money was not the issue for NASA. The issue was using the money wisely to do more with it than we are doing now. He repeated many times during the program that we were not going to have a replay of the Apollo program. Don’t miss his comments on this as they are scattered throughout our discussion. Near the end of the show, Rand was asked about the 2016 elections and space policy, rocket staging, even SSTO rocketry. When offering us concluding comments, he repeated we would not be repeating Apollo, that it was never that popular and much about it is a myth. Don’t miss what he had to say about the Apollo program and missions.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above. Rand can be reached through me or his blog, www.Transterrestrial.com.

 

Tom Olson, 2014 Year In Review, Tuesday, 12-30-14 December 31, 2014

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Tom Olson, 2014 Year In Review, Tuesday, 12-30-14

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Guest:  Tom Olson.  Topics:  Space year 2014 in review.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Tom Olson back to the show for his annual end of the year review show for the space year at hand, 2014.  During the first segment of our last program for 2014, I asked Tom for positive memorable events in 2014 .  Tom came well prepared for this question.  Do you have the same memorable events list or a different one?  Let us know on the blog.  As Tom was going through his list of memorable positive events and developments for 2014, we took some email questions about Blue Atlas, the Delta IV and human rating it, and of course ULA.  Another listener wanted to know what Tom thought of the idea of a prize for an on orbiting demo propellant depot and fuel transfer.  Toward the end of the first segment, Dr. Lurio called in and talked about fuel depots, markets for them, NASA and more. We also talked about Virgin Galactic and SpaceShip2 plus what may be forthcoming from the NTSB report when it becomes available.  Antares was also discussed before the break.

In the second segment, Jeff from Tucson called in about a possible Netscape Moment.  Tom did not think much of a Netscape Moment, instead he talked about the concept of space scalable.  I got in on the discussion as did others and this led us to our discussing reusability with SpaceX and would it be a game changer.  Later in the segment, more was said about the Delta IV, ULA, Atlas and even SLS.  For 2015, Tom talked about Bigelow Aerospace getting their modules up to the ISS.  He also talked about Dragon V2 and Falcon Heavy.  In addition, Tom mentioned Power Beaming test for SSP in space beaming power from point to point but in space.  Of course SLS and Orion came up. Tom is not supportive of it, Dr. Lurio called in who is not supportive of it and holding up the fort for it was our friend SLS John.  The latter part of the show was an ongoing give and take with Lurio, Tom and SLS John highly engaged in a back and forth but as you will hear, there were no winners.  Tom and I did a bit of reminiscing because we go back with one another for more than a decade.  We wished everyone a very Happy New Year and a great 2015.  And remember, “y’all come back for more in 2015!”

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Michael Listner, Sunday, 10-26-14 October 26, 2014

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Michael Listner, Sunday, 10-26-14

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Guest:  Michel Listner.  Topics:  Drones, air traffic control, NASA, SpaceX, patents, reusability, property, space law & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Michael Listner back to the show for a wide ranging discussion on space law issues.  During the first segment of our 95 minute show, Michael started by addressing the NASA program to develop an air traffic control system for drones.  We spent the first part of this segment talking about the system, what it might be like, the partners working with NASA on the plan, the role of the FAA, and related items.  Part of this discussion focused on the need for regulations as Michael said without some regulations there is chaos.  The trick is to balance the regulations to maintain safety and order but also to enable commercial growth.  In this segment, we talked about the Dream Chaser challenge to the decision by NASA re commercial crew with the awards going to Boeing and SpaceX.  To help us understand the appeals process, Michael cited the recent KC-X tanker deal which Boeing appealed and ultimately won the contract.  Michael then updated us with as much info as is known re the SpaceX-AF litigation over the bulk buy, then we talked about the patent dispute with Blue Origin and SpaceX regarding a reusable system meant to land on a barge.

In the second segment, the issues of space property rights & the Asteroids Act came up.  Michael had some interesting observations that he shared with us.  Let us know on the blog what you think about property rights & the Asteroids Act.  A listener asked Michael about the prevailing law should a criminal act be carried out on a spaceship.  Michael explained what would happen if such an event happened in space.  Our guest was asked if he thought the midterm election would make a difference in space policy,  Listeners & I then asked Michael what to look for regarding the balance of this year and into 2015 concerning space legal issues.  Note what Michael pointed out to us.  His concluding comments addressed the need for proper space law to facilitate commercial space growth & exploration.

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Michael Belfiore, Sunday, 9-21-14 September 22, 2014

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Michael Belfiore, Sunday, 9-21-14

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Guest:  Michael Belfiore.  Topics:  Current events for space topics, selection of Dragon & CST100, 3D printing in space, lots more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Michael Belfiore back to the show to discuss a variety of space news and current events items, plus trends in the industry.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 41 minute program, Michael talked about DARPA given his recent book on the agency, then we turned to the recent commercial crew down select NASA announcement naming the Boeing CST100 and SpaceX Dragon as the two companies that NASA will continue supporting for commercial crew.  We spent lots of time talking about Boeing and SpaceX plus everyone was wondering if Sierra Nevada and Dream Chaser would find a way to stay in the game.  The next topic was the Google Lunar X Prize challenge. Michael pointed out that a government had gotten to the Moon fist with a rover, the Chinese, thus the rules of the contest were changed to allow the contest to continue.  Marshall called to talk about the down select process and winners. SLS John called to tell us that he thought Dream Chaser and SpaceX would be the winners.  He and others suggested Boeing was the conservative choice.  He also asked about the news that a Boeing-Bezos deal was in the making for the new American made RD180 engine replacement.  Michael suggested throughout our discussion that the old guard or the traditional aerospace industry and participants were under lots of pressure from NewSpace.

In the second segment, we took a call from Doug who commented on the down select process.  Michael then talked about the Tesla deal for Nevada and their proposed gigafactory for electric car batteries.  We talked about electric cars in general, then Tim called to suggest a conversion kit for conventional autos to turn them into electric cars.  I questioned that from a market perspective.  Michael then introduced space manifesting and we talked about the 3D printer on the way to the ISS.  Michael mentioned Maven which was to be inserted into Mars orbit Sunday evening, 9:37 EDT.  News update:  Maven’s orbital insertion was a big success!  Congrats to NASA and the entire Maven team.  We also talked about Comet Siding Spring,  Suborbital flights came up and we heard Michael express concerns about Virgin Galactic & confidence with the Lynx and XCOR.  He talked about the early spaceflight participants and the risks they would be taking.  Visit his website, http://www.michaelbelfiore.com. You can also subscribe to his email newsletter and join him on social media, all through his website.

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Scott Lowther, Monday, 12-2-13 December 3, 2013

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Scott Lowther, Monday, 12-2-13

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Guest:  Scott Lowther.  Topics:  Historical archiving and documenting cancelled aerospace projects.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Scott Lowther to the program to discuss his Aerospace Projects Review work for cancelled aerospace projects.  In the first segment of our 90 minute program, Scott introduced us to his work and his website http://aerospaceprojectsreview.com.  Also check out his blog at www.aerospaceprojectsreview.com/blog.  In explaining what he does, he talked about the larger aerospace companies, their dismissal of old records and materials, their lack of saving and archiving even important files and plans.  Boeing was the one exception to this practice.  He then described his experience at the Boeing archive library & the type of data he found there, including hardware samples.  We talked about why companies don’t save and archive material. Besides the more typical reasons including costs, space, and things like that, he said that there might be some documents that an attorney could get a hold of in researching a liability case and use something in the report, even a 20 year old report, as cause against the company in possible litigation.  Scott also talked about companies using a storage facility under control and management of Iron Mountain Data and Storage Backup.  One of his favorite projects was the X-20 Dyno-Soar and we talked about this vehicle project in detail.  On his website, you will also see his U.S. Bomber Series drawings and information.  In discussing this series, our guest was asked what the first U.S. bomber was.  He cited a biplane bomber used against Pancho Villa.  We talked about specific aviation projects such as the A-12 Flying Wing.  Another favorite project was the Orion nuclear propulsion vehicle of which our guest had much to say.  Toward the end of this segment, Anthony called in to talk more about the X 20.

In the second segment, we started out with Scott providing us with the mechanics of his website, products he sells, signing up for info on his email list, blue prints for famous projects such as the Saturn 5, and more.  Scott was asked about the impact of ITAR regulations on archiving material and he shared a KSC story about this with us.  Later in the segment, we talked about the smaller private companies saving material and projects that were cancelled or not developed.  He said this was up to the companies and they may not do it for cost and space reasons.  He mentioned that he did have good information on the Kistler Aerospace project.  He was then asked about the NASA HL20 lifting body.  Toward the end, he talked about the NASA Technical Reports Server (http://ntrs.nasa.gov).

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Charles Miller, Monday, 9-30-13 October 1, 2013

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Charles Miller, Monday, 9-30-13

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Guest:  Charles Miller.  Topics:  Commercial space, small satellites, commercial crew, human spaceflight & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Charles Miller back to The Space Show for this 1 hour 31 minute program.  During the first segment, Charles talked about the future of commercial space, extending the life of the ISS, managing risk and uncertainty to maximize returns and benefits for commercial space, plus he used the company he co-founded, NanoRacks, as a commercial model utilizing the national lab ISS.  We talked about commercial crew, the success of the Space Act Agreement for contracting and pockets of congressional resistance to the commercial and Space Act programs.  In discussing commercial opportunities on the ISS, we also talked about CASIS and the role it is playing in bridging the gap and facilitating commercial companies using the ISS.  Charles then talked about his company, NexGen Space LLC and he referenced the DARPA XS-1 Reusable Spaceplane.  A listener asked our guest about a possible influx of commercial opportunities from outside the U.S.  In response to this question, Charles talked about competing cultures and why the U.S. is so strong with its culture of innovation.  Commercial crew, human spaceflight, and the need to spend 6 months training in Russia were discussed with the latter being an impediment.  Suborbital demand was a topic as were the commercial efforts by Boeing, Sierra Nevada, ATK and other mainstream aerospace companies.

In our second segment, we talked about Kickstarter and the use of crowd funding in the emerging commercial space industry.  Innovation and low cost space access were key topics and themes for this segment.  Listener Jack asked about space entrepreneurial management teams & what to look for in a quality team.  I asked Charles to tell us where he thought the industry would be in ten years.  Charles talked about small satellite constellations, far more affordability across the board, and a large growth space tourism industry.  He also mentioned that the turning point will come when we have cheaper access to space than today. Toward the end of our discussion, Charles was asked for his suggestion for the best path to pursue for those seeking commercial space careers. In response, he talked about getting real hardware and flight experience & mentioned high schools that provide this experience.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog per above.  Charles Miller can be reached through me using drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Sara Howard, Sunday, 8-4-13 August 5, 2013

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Sara Howard, Sunday, 8-4-13

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Guest:  Sara Howard.  Topics:  Sara’s new book, “Mischief at Michoud” and her work at Michoud during the Apollo era.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed back Sara Howard to the program to tell us about her newest book, “Mischief at Michoud” which is available through Amazon.com.  For those of you buying Sara’s book, please use the simple Amazon directions on The Space Show website/blog or the OGLF Amazon portal, www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm so that Amazon will make a contribution to The Space Show.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 31 minute program, Sara talked about her time at NASA Michoud in Louisiana from 1965-67 as one of only two women who worked on the first stage, the SI-C stage, of the Saturn V rocket.  Sara described the work environment, the NASA Michoud facility, and the type of work she and others did at the time.  During the segment, retired NASA Apollo era worker John called in and our guest and the caller talked with each other about their respective projects and the work they did to help us get to the Moon.  It was most interesting listening to the stories and experiences of those that helped make going to the Moon a reality for the U.S.

In the second segment, we spent more time with our guest talking about specific chapters in her book. Sara has a great sense of humor and many of the chapters not only have funny and tantalizing titles, but she tells a great story to go along with them.  Some of her stories about not trusting computers and favoring slide rules were not only entertaining but informative.  We talked about how Sara’s friend and Sara were treated as women in a largely male dominated workforce. You might be surprised by what our guest had to say about this along with some of the jokes played on her at the time.  One of her book chapters, “My Terror,” caught my attention and we learned that there were self-destruct explosive charges in each Saturn V fuel tank and that was their fear that they would have to destroy a vehicle.  Sara was asked about the chapter addressing faking the Moon landings. She had much to say about this that you will want to hear.  Star Trek also comes into the workplace and you will want to hear this story as well.  Toward the end, John called back and Sara & John talked about the average age and education of those working on Apollo and attempts were made to compare back then to today.  Sara can be found on Facebook which is where she has all her information and more. Just search for “Sara Howard.”

Post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog. If you want to email Sara, you can do so through me.