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Tom Olson, Tuesday, 12-29-15 December 30, 2015

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Tom Olson, Tuesday, 12-29-15

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Guest: Thomas (Tom) Olson. Topics: 2015 in review, 2016 space events, best and worst space events of the year. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Tom Olson for his traditional annual year in review show, this time for the year 2015. During the first segment of our 1 hour 45 minute discussion, I asked Tom to start off with the worst space event for 2015 rather than the best. Interestingly, he said it was the fact that another year has gone by without our flying people to space, either orbital or suborbital. This opened up a discussion about disappointments in the suborbital industry other than for Blue Origin which got the best grade along with SpaceX for their landing their rocket back on the pad after making it to space. As for the best, Tom mentioned several “bests” during the show but started out with the new commercial space legislation recently signed into law, specifically the part about funding commercial crew and U.S citizens being able to extract resources from asteroids. He spoke about the launch industry in general saying this was a near record year with 87 total launches. He talked about the ISS extension to 2024, commercial projects on the station and he said it would be better to design a commercial station properly than to try and commercialize the ISS. Tom then mentioned several entrepreneurial companies worth noting and watching including Planet Labs, Spire, Made In Space, also Sierra Nevada with the continuation of its Dream Chaser space vehicle. Listener Robert asked if his views on space solar power had changed in 2015. Tom said no but listen to his explanation. I asked Tom for the top space leaders of 2015. He had trouble naming a few other than Bezos and Musk. He said there were no heroes. All of the space men and women were heroes. Jeff from Denver asked Tom if he changed his mind on SLS/Orion from previous years. Again, Tom said no but listen to his full explanation. Another listener asked him if he thought 2016 presidential politics would influence space policy. Again, he answered with a no. Ft. Worth John called to talk about artificial gravity experiments that were needed, Falcon 9 landing the 1st stage successfully, plus he asked when the Falcon Heavy would fly.

In the second segment, Luis from Venezuela asked Tom about small scale laser beaming of power from powersats to landers and assets on the lunar surface. Next up was Dr. Lurio who put in a plug for Made In Space for a 2015 outstanding company award, then he talked about XCOR, responding to some of the recent management changes in the company plus the comments Tom was making about the company. Tom further addressed Made In Space and mentioned a 3D bioprinter. Here is the link to the story he mentioned about the bioprinter, http://medcitynews.com/2015/08/watch-out-organovo-biobots-launching-new-line-of-low-cost-3d-bioprinters. Tom spoke more about the Bigelow ISS BEAM Module experiment for later in 2016, then talked about the success of deep space exploration, JPL, and more. He mentioned running water on Mars, Cassini and Titan photos, New Horizons and Pluto and the Dawn Mission to Ceres. He also gave credit to Rosetta and the Comet 67P mission , then commented on the disappointment about the delay in the Insight Mars mission. Tom mentioned Putin’s reorganization of the Russian space industry to just Roscosmos, then he said the weirdest event of the year was the exoplanet discovery of the mysterious dimming in light value with some in the media reporting the possible discovery of alien ruins (see http://news.discovery.com/space/alien-life-exoplanets/has-kepler-discovered-an-alien-megastructure-151014.htm). Near the end of the program, Tom talked at length about important changes in the New Space Business Plan Competition. A listener then asked him about space films for 2015 and Tom commented on The Martian and television science fiction programming. He also mentioned the twins study on the ISS was nearing its end and Scott Kelly had set a record for the most time spent in space by an American astronaut. Before the show ended we talked about one way trips to Mars, Mars One and then Tom predicted that Mr. Musk will get to Mars before NASA. He concluded by saying that 2015 was an inspiring year for space on all fronts.

Please post your comments/Questions on TSS blog above. Happy New Year to all of you. Keep it safe, have a great celebration and I wish you all a terrific 2016! Thank you again for your Space Show support.

 

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Hannah Kerner, Friday, 5-8-15 May 8, 2015

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Hannah Kerner, Friday, 5-8-15

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Guest: Hannah Kerner. Topics: NewSpace 2015 Conference in San Jose, CA from July 16-18, 2015. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Hannah Kerner to the program to discuss the upcoming NewSpace 2015 Conference in Silicon Valley at the Doubletree Inn, San Jose, CA, from July 16-18, 2015. For more information, the conference agenda, registration and contact information, visit https://newspace.spacefrontier.org. During our one hour discussion, we talked about Hannah deciding to work this summer for Planet Labs rather than Google and why. We then talked about the first day keynotes including Pete Worden who just retired as the director of NASA Ames and NASA Administrator Charles Boden who will be at the conference for his talk. We then took a look at some of the panel discussions planned for the conference as this year’s NewSpace event consists of all panel discussions. While the conference agenda is filling up, Hannah did say there might still be room for panel speakers/participants so if one or two of the panels matches your expertise or area of interest and you would like to participate, send her or Curtis an email. You will find their email addresses on the conference contact page which is https://newspace.spacefrontier.org/contact. We also talked conference logistics, registration, hotel availability, and airport transportation from San Francisco airports to the conference hotel in San Jose. A listener asked about family and tourist activities in and around San Jose in case he decided to bring his spouse and children with him. Thus, we talked tourist attractions for a few minutes. Hannah also went over the lunch, networking, evening and gala details and registration as they are separate from the conference registration. Near the end of our discussion, I asked Hannah for her favorite panels. She told us her two favorites were the alternative launch panel on the first day and the Saturday panel, “The Users and Futures of Low Earth Orbit.” A listener asked about there being a business plan competition this year. Hannah said details would be announced soon and that it was being worked into the existing conference agenda. Listeners asked about the SFF annual Advocates meeting and Hannah gave us a teaser about several special announcements to be made at the conference including one that pertains to NewSpace 2016.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above. You can reach Hannah Kerner through the NewSpace Contact page or me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

 

Tom Olson Year 2013 In Review Oldie Show, Monday, 12-29-14 December 29, 2014

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Tom Olson Year 2013 In Review Oldie Show, Monday, 12-29-14

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Guest:  Tom Olson, Golden Oldie..  Topics:  The year 2013 in review for all things space.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

 

We welcomed Tom Olson back to the show for his 2013 space year in review.  Note that this program was pre-recorded on Dec. 19, 2013 for play today, Dec. 31, 2013.  During the first segment of our two hour program, Tom began the review by talking about the Chinese lunar lander now on the Moon.  He expressed concern that Russian and the U.S. may be left behind though we did talk about the private U.S. lunar missions working on getting back to the Moon ASAP.  Tom next talked about NewSpace successes during the year, the successful completion of the COTS program with both the Orbital and SpaceX launchers taking supplies to the ISS.  Tom suggested commercial crew was on time for 2017 and that SpaceX was making good progress with Grasshopper and potential reusability.  He talked about controversy over Pad 39A development, the recent Dream Chaser accident, and the emergency of commercial markets for the ISS with CASIS and Nanoracks. Before this segment ended, Tom talked about the impact of sequestration and space politics for the industry as a whole, then he addressed SLS.  As the segment was about to end, he named a few of the 2013 busts including NASA Redirect Mission, Inspiration Mars, and Mars One.

 

In our second segment, we talked about space advocacy during the year and the success of the 2013 NewSpace Business Plan Competition. Space settlement was discussed and as was NewSpace outreach, including congressional outreach.  Tom talked about progress with the suborbital companies and Virgin Galactic.  This took him to the space tourism topic and the 2014 planned Virgin Galactic operational flights.  Our guest was asked about the regulatory issues in 2013 and what he thought they would be like for 2014. For the most part, he predicted no change.  We talked about financing space ventures and capital acquisition for 2013 as well as start-ups and space entrepreneurs.  He also mentioned Armadillo Aerospace going dark during the year and mentioned the risks to the emerging commercial industry if funds become scarce or hard to obtain.  Though this was a pre-recorded show, there were some advance email questions for Tom. One near the end of the program asked him about plans to do anything with his Colony Fund program.  Tom said it was a great idea but 12-15 years ahead of its time and may someday be brought back to life.  That said, he reminded us that the Colony Fund did advance the space scalable strategy.  Before our discussion ended, Tom updated us on the activities of Walt Anderson and his new ventures.

 

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can reach Tom through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Tom Olson, Meagan Crawford, Monday, 6-2-14 June 3, 2014

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Tom Olson, Meagan Crawford, Monday, 6-2-14

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Guests:  Tom Olson, Meagan Crawford.  Topics:  The 2014 Lightening Round Competition during the NewSpace 2014 Conference.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back both Tom Olson and Meagan Crawford to discuss the “Lightning Pitch” event in lieu of the customary Business Plan Competition to be held the first day of the NewSpace Conference 2014, July 24 in Silicon Valley.  You can learn more about the NewSpace 2014 conference by visiting https://newspace.spacefrontier.org.  To learn about the Lightening Pitch, go to http://newspacebpc.com/lightning-pitch-2014.  In the first segment of our 90 minute show, Tom and Meagan described this year’s Lightening Pitch, talked about the sponsors and the $20,000 in prize money, and they gave us hints of what the new and expanded business plan competition for 2015 will be like.  We honed in on the approaching entry deadline which is 5PM EDT on Saturday, June 7.  There are no entry fees and all one has to do is submit up to a 3 page Executive Summary for their business startup idea.  The selected contestants will have four minutes to deliver their pitch the first day of the NewSpace Conference, then they will have a 3 minutes Question and Answer session where contestants will field provoking questions from the “Shark Tank” of Investor/Judges.  The winners will be announced that evening at a special Lightening Round conference VIP event.  Submit your entry using compete@newspacebpc.com.  During this segment, Tom and Meagan took questions about the history and overall success of the business plan competition, trends in NewSpace, oversight issues, team size and issues, and questions about winning topics and how to make a killer presentation.

In the second segment, we talked about space investments becoming routine and the possible timeline for this to happen.  Our guests talked about nanotech & its influence on the entrepreneurial community.  A listener asked our guests about competition bias and included space solar power projects (SSP) as an example.  Another listener wanted to know if the competition was biased toward one person businesses.  Here, our guests had much to say about teams, how to counter a one person plan, and why judges prefer seeing a team in place rather than just one person.  Toward the end of the program, we talked about expected ROIs and exit strategy time lines for the winning plans, plus for the space industry in general.  Both our guests summarized the Lightening Round by saying there was no entry fee, the deadline for a simple Executive Summary of no more than 3 pages is this Saturday, June 7, and they look forward to receiving your entry.

Post comments/questions on The Space Show blog above.  You can reach our guests by using compete@newspacebpc.com or businessplan@newspacebpc.com.

Tom Olson, 2013 Year In Review, Tuesday, 12-31-13 December 30, 2013

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Tom Olson, 2013 Year In Review, Tuesday, 12-31-13

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Guest:  Tom Olson.   Topics:  The year 2013 in review for all things space.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Tom Olson back to the show for his 2013 space year in review.  Note that this program was pre-recorded on Dec. 19, 2013 for play today, Dec. 31, 2013.  During the first segment of our two hour program, Tom began the review by talking about the Chinese lunar lander now on the Moon.  He expressed concern that Russian and the U.S. may be left behind though we did talk about the private U.S. lunar missions working on getting back to the Moon ASAP.  Tom next talked about NewSpace successes during the year, the successful completion of the COTS program with both the Orbital and SpaceX launchers taking supplies to the ISS.  Tom suggested commercial crew was on time for 2017 and that SpaceX was making good progress with Grasshopper and potential reusability.  He talked about controversy over Pad 39A evelopment, the recent Dream Chaser accident, and the emergency of commercial markets for the ISS with CASIS and Nanoracks. Before this segment ended, Tom talked about the impact of sequestration and space politics for the industry as a whole, then he addressed SLS.  As the segment was about to end, he named a few of the 2013 busts including NASA Redirect Mission, Inspiration Mars, and Mars One.

In our second segment, we talked about space advocacy during the year and the success of the 2013 NewSpace Business Plan Competition. Space settlement was discussed and as was NewSpace outreach, including congressional outreach.  Tom talked about progress with the suborbital companies and Virgin Galactic.  This took him to the space tourism topic and the 2014 planned Virgin Galactic operational flights.  Our guest was asked about the regulatory issues in 2013 and what he thought they would be like for 2014. For the most part, he predicted no change.  We talked about financing space ventures and capital acquisition for 2013 as well as start-ups and space entrepreneurs.  He also mentioned Armadillo Aerospace going dark during the year and mentioned the risks to the emerging commercial industry if funds become scarce or hard to obtain.  Though this was a pre-recorded show, there were some advance email questions for Tom. One near the end of the program asked him about plans to do anything with his Colony Fund program.  Tom said it was a great idea but 12-15 years ahead of its time and may someday be brought back to life.  That said, he reminded us that the Colony Fund did advance the space scalable strategy.  Before our discussion ended, Tom updated us on the activities of Walt Anderson and his new ventures.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can reach Tom through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Sara Meschberger, Monday, 6-24-13 June 25, 2013

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Sara Meschberger, Monday, 6-24-13

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Guest:  Sara Meschberger;  Topics:  We discussed the NewSpace Conference 2013 from July 25-27 in San Jose, CA.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those of you interested in the opportunity to submit feedback on the NRC congressionally mandated Human Spaceflight Study, please go to www.nationalacademies.org/humanspaceflight.  Please remember that your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm).

We welcomed Sara Meschberger to the program for the first hour to discuss the upcoming NewSpace Conference, July 25-27 at the DoubleTree Hotel in San Jose, CA.  For more information about the conference, including online registration, visit http://newspace.spacefrontier.org.  During the first hour of our 1 hour 8 minute program, Sara took us through the highlights for this year’s conference including panel topics, keynote speakers, and panel speakers.  You can follow along with us by using the Agenda and Speakers tabs on the NewSpace 2013 website.  This is a single track conference with lots of networking and social activities.  Sara answered many listener email questions about the conference.  For example, it will be live streamed and archived for those of you unable to attend in person.  The Saturday evening event is the 25th Anniversary Black-Tie Birthday Party for SFF and special programming and an MC are planned.  During our discussion, Sara was asked about recent trends for the NewSpace Conference and the Business Plan Competition which will be held in the fall with prizes totaling $135,000!  Toward the end of our hour discussion, Sara was asked about her experiences with SEDS and similarities with SFF & the NewSpace focus on commercial and private space, plus a listener wanted to know how Sara got her interest in space.  Sara’s space history was fascinating starting at a very early age and including building and flying rockets plus astronomy.  Before our program ended, we talked about the NewSpace Exhibit Hall, Media Alerts for the conference, & advocacy outreach and support.  After our hour long discussion, I returned for about eight minutes to go over some of the details for upcoming Space Show programming, including an added show this week for Wednesday morning and that there would be no Hotel Mars segment this week regarding my appearances on The John Batchelor Show.

If you have comments or questions about this year’s NewSpace 2013 Conference or for Sara, not only can you post them on The Space Show blog above.  You can also email Sara at sara.meschberger@spacefrontier.org.

Tom Olson, Sunday, 9-23-12 September 24, 2012

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Tom Olson, Sunday, 9-23-12

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Guest:  Tom Olson.  Topics:  Exodus Consulting Group, space scalable investments.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. Tom Olson returned as our guest to introduce us to the new Exodus Consulting Group (see http://exodus-consulting.com). In our first hour long segment, Tom introduced us to Exodus and the concept known as space scalable.  He gave several examples of what was meant by space scalable, including referencing some of the contestants/winners in the last New Space Business Plan Competition.  Tom also talked about the ISS and investor requirements for the more traditional types of space investments as compared to the considerations meeting the space scalable definition.  In this discussion, Tom explained why the space scalable approach makes so much sense. See if you agree with him and let us know on the blog.  The subject of space solar power and power sats at Mars came up with caller Marshall.  Tom and I remained skeptical about closing a business case for SSP but Tom did offer to review SSP business plans if you send them to him.  Please use inquiries@exodus-consulting.com. There was some discussion about Tom’s drilling ideas on Mars.
     In the second segment, we talked about the NewSpace Business Plan Competition planned for 2013.  Tom talked about business plan competitions in general, contrasting most of them with the NewSpace competition.  Tom talked about the funding, the cash prizes and the expanding connections to Silicon Valley.  Later in this segment, we talked about Exodus timelines and a listener wanted to know what has happened with previous winners of the competition.  Another listener emailed in a question about the risk of government regulation.  Tom pointed out that ITAR was the biggest concern.  We did talk about biotech, especially in the North Carolina Research Triangle, then we talked about crowd sourcing and Kickstarter.  In his closing comments, Tom mentioned the Washington, DC Angel Investors.  He closed pointing out the need for companies or individuals with plans to contact Exodus should they need $100-200K, have an 18-24 month exit strategy, and an ROI around 3-5X.
     Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can contact Tom Olson at the Exodus email address provided above.

Tom Olson, Tuesday, 12-27-11 December 28, 2011

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Tom Olson, Tuesday, 12-27-11

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Guest:  Tom Olson.  Topics:  The year 2011 in review regarding all space issues.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign.  We welcomed Tom Olson back to the show for his annual yearly summary of space events.  We had much to cover in this 105 minute program.  Tom started out reminding us that 2011 was the 50th anniversary of human spaceflight.  He told us about the banner year for Yuri’s Night parties around the globe celebrating this important milestone and specifically about the even he attended in New Your City.  Next, he pointed out the recent National Press Club talk given by Elon Musk on going to Mars and building the rockets to take us there, plus his recent New Scientist interview which you can read in full on the Mars Society website.  Tom commented that the sky was actually falling in 2011 with two large junk satellites coming back to Earth.  We also talked about the return of Phobos Grunt to earth probably in early to mid-January 2012.  One of the big events we discussed for 2011 was the retirement of the shuttle.  This led us to discussing the recent Chinese space rendezvous and the fact that China is now the number two launching country behind Russia having overtaken the U.S. this year.  Planetary missions were part of our year in review with Vesta and Dawn, the Kepler Space Telescope, MSL with Curiosity.  New Horizons continued its journey to Pluto and Explorer 1 continued beyond our solar system.  Tom talked about SLS and the ORION MPC Vehicle, plus the James Webb Space Telescope and its cost issues in the context of its impact on the NASA budget.  Soyuz rocket problems along with all the Russian rocket failures this year were fair game for our discussion.  I asked Tom what he thought of the idea of SLS as a place holder for skill sets and technology until our space program improves.  Don’t miss his answer.  He brought up Virgin Galactic’s drop tests this year, especially the last one where trouble showed up.  Making news for 2011 were NASA and space industry workforce layoffs and the successful Falcon 9 and Dragon launch.  At the end of the first segment, Bigelow Aerospace was in our spotlight.  In segment two, Tom led off with XCOR news, Terry called wondering about CCDEV3 and Tom suggested program winners!  Don’t miss his prediction.  He also was asked to predict the cancellation year for SLS.  Don’t miss this prediction as well.  We talked about the upcoming New Space Business Plan Competition for 2012, the prizes which are the largest ever, and the timing.  If this interests you, make sure to stay tuned for more information.  Later in the segment we began a summary of our discussion and 2011.  Tom was asked about the space elevator and the Lunar Space Elevator.  We wrapped up our discussion talking about growth in the space conferences even in the tough economic year of 2011.  Post your comments and questions on The Space Show blog URL above.