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Tom Olson, 2013 Year In Review, Tuesday, 12-31-13 December 30, 2013

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Tom Olson, 2013 Year In Review, Tuesday, 12-31-13

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Guest:  Tom Olson.   Topics:  The year 2013 in review for all things space.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Tom Olson back to the show for his 2013 space year in review.  Note that this program was pre-recorded on Dec. 19, 2013 for play today, Dec. 31, 2013.  During the first segment of our two hour program, Tom began the review by talking about the Chinese lunar lander now on the Moon.  He expressed concern that Russian and the U.S. may be left behind though we did talk about the private U.S. lunar missions working on getting back to the Moon ASAP.  Tom next talked about NewSpace successes during the year, the successful completion of the COTS program with both the Orbital and SpaceX launchers taking supplies to the ISS.  Tom suggested commercial crew was on time for 2017 and that SpaceX was making good progress with Grasshopper and potential reusability.  He talked about controversy over Pad 39A evelopment, the recent Dream Chaser accident, and the emergency of commercial markets for the ISS with CASIS and Nanoracks. Before this segment ended, Tom talked about the impact of sequestration and space politics for the industry as a whole, then he addressed SLS.  As the segment was about to end, he named a few of the 2013 busts including NASA Redirect Mission, Inspiration Mars, and Mars One.

In our second segment, we talked about space advocacy during the year and the success of the 2013 NewSpace Business Plan Competition. Space settlement was discussed and as was NewSpace outreach, including congressional outreach.  Tom talked about progress with the suborbital companies and Virgin Galactic.  This took him to the space tourism topic and the 2014 planned Virgin Galactic operational flights.  Our guest was asked about the regulatory issues in 2013 and what he thought they would be like for 2014. For the most part, he predicted no change.  We talked about financing space ventures and capital acquisition for 2013 as well as start-ups and space entrepreneurs.  He also mentioned Armadillo Aerospace going dark during the year and mentioned the risks to the emerging commercial industry if funds become scarce or hard to obtain.  Though this was a pre-recorded show, there were some advance email questions for Tom. One near the end of the program asked him about plans to do anything with his Colony Fund program.  Tom said it was a great idea but 12-15 years ahead of its time and may someday be brought back to life.  That said, he reminded us that the Colony Fund did advance the space scalable strategy.  Before our discussion ended, Tom updated us on the activities of Walt Anderson and his new ventures.

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Dr. Bruce Cordell, Friday, 12-6-13 December 7, 2013

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Dr. Bruce Cordell, Friday, 12-6-13

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We welcomed back Dr. Bruce Cordell for this 1 hour 38 minute discussion of Maslow Windows suggesting the strong possibility of a large & successful expansion of our space program by 2016, including a possible large space project on the order of Apollo or even the turn of the century Panama Canal.  To find out more about Maslow Windows, visit www.21stcenturywaves.com.

In preparation for this program, Dr. Cordell posted this on his site:  http://21stcenturywaves.com/2013/11/21/bruce-returns-to-the-space-show-on-december-6.  Make sure to click on the link for his article “10 Space Trends for 2013-Featuring the Approach of the New International Space Age.”  During our first segment, Dr. Cordell provided us with a brief introduction to Maslow Windows and the historical trends supporting this analysis.  He compared economic and financial times of past large government projects and expansions to our recent times and how we are now evolving towards a large expansion project as was the case many times over the past 200 years.  A key ingredient needed to bring about the changes Dr. Cordell spoke about is the emergency of economic growth and a national ebullient feeling, both of which are absent today.  He also said he was looking to the elections of 2014 and 2016 to produce substantial change, opening the door to the possibility pointed to by his Maslow Window analysis.  In response to one of my questions, Dr. Cordell was clear that change did not necessarily mean changing political parties.  Bruce received several questions from the NewSpace segment of the community, challenging the need for a large government space program and for SLS.  Bruce talked about this at length in both segments as listeners kept this as a front and center topic for the full program.  We also talked about the need for advances in technology to be ripe in order for the expanded space program to happen.  John from Ft. Worth called in with questions related to the Chinese program and Bruce connected dots in this conversation to his analysis.  Among the many things he said, it was clear the project being alluded to did not have to be American and could be Chinese. He also strongly advocated international participation.  We talked about Mars and going first to Phobos or Deimos, then he talked about the failed Phobos-Grunt mission.

We started the second segment with our guest pointing out similarities in JFK’s time to today, including Iran today and the Cuban Missile Crisis for JFK.  Bruce commented about huge changes going on around the world, including here in the U.S. with energy production.  Space education came up, there were lots of comments about our Congress, the administration and public disconnect over space.  This has to change for the Maslow Window to open up and produce the space expansion project.  He also talked about how we live in turbulent times and at least for now, the public and most in government do not have the stomach for the large Apollo like space project.  He said change would bring wealth creation, a better economy, and the people would soon be in a better position to want to do something like another Apollo.  Near the end, we talked about the ISS and its success.  In his concluding remarks, he pointed out that we live in scary times and that global changes were happening very fast.  This fast rate of change is a key predictors of the coming space boom.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog above.  You can email Dr. Cordell through his website.

John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 12-4-13 December 5, 2013

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John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 12-4-13

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Guests: John Batchelor, Leonard David, Gordon Chan, Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  Chinese Chang’e 3 launch to the Moon, their lunar program.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce.  This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com.  Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm).

During our 11 minute plus discussion, John, Leonard David, Gordon Chang & I discussed the recent Chinese Chang’e 3 launch to the Moon on Dec. 2, 2013.  We discussed the lunar orbiting of the spacecraft before its attempted landing at Sinus Iridum (Bay of Rainbows).  We talked about some of the complexities of a soft landing and the scientific instrument package on board. Of special interest was the autonomous hazard avoidance capability that even NASA has not yet tried on a spacecraft. Leonard was asked about the Chinese military in their space program and their overall plans for the Moon as part of their space program.  They do have a lunar sample return mission planned and their program is advancing.  Leonard talked about their rover, the mission, and suggested it was clearly a 21st century effort.

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Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Tuesday, 12-3-13 December 4, 2013

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Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Tuesday, 12-3-13

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Guest:  Robert (Bob) Zimmerman.  Topics:  launch competition, commercial space, China, gov. space programs, budget issues.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed back Bob Zimmerman for his Tenth Anniversary Space Show program!  During the first segment of this two hour two minute program, Bob addressed many issues and listener concerns starting with the SpaceX Falcon 9 GEO launch success & the looking back to his first Space Show program on Dec. 3, 2003.  He compared and contrasted his comments then to those today. He also blogged about this on his Behindtheblack.com blog at http://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/exciting-times-in-space.  Listeners expressed their concern about the Chinese space program, their recent lunar landing mission and the day when they can put a human on the Moon.  Listeners wanted to know if this would spark a new space race between China and the U.S.  Bob said no and I agreed with him for slightly different reasons.  However, one of Bob’s consistent and recurring themes (and tonight’s discussion was no different) is that he opposes large government space programs as he says they don’t work.  He provided much evidence for this during our discussion.  During this segment we also talked extensively about launch competition and the benefits from competition in the marketplace.  Listener Al asked about DOD space and if DOD might see the Chinese space program differently.  Bob also mentioned space property rights and he said the existing situation should change based on U.S. law as the model for commercial space to flourish.  There was more talk about the Chinese program which Bob was not too concerned about.  Listen for his reasoning.  John in Ft. Worth called in to also talk about the Chinese program and suggested at some point their success might just humiliate the U.S. into competitive action.  Neither Bob or I thought it was likely that anything would humiliate congress today.  John and Bob then had an interesting discussion on this subject.

In Part 2 of our program, Dr. Lurio called in to talk about being thrilled to the bone by the SpaceX launch and to comment on NewSpace & commercial space issues. Like Bob, he opposes SLS as a big waste.  Bob and Charles then talked about their distaste for large gov. programs such as what JFK created, again saying they don’t work.  Both wondered what space and other things would look like today had JFK not been assassinated.  Dream Chaser was mentioned, again as everyone’s favorite spacecraft.  Al emailed in again to point out the differences in the space perspective of seniors and young people.  Tim called in to mention the Code of Conduct issue with possible international launch standards and how this might hurt the developing US commercial launch business.  I mentioned a Business Week article saying the suborbitals are going to look to R&D flights for repeat customers which they definitely need. Here is the article: www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-11-27/spaceflight-companies-virgin-galactic-xcor-blue-origin-eye-r-and-d-clients.  Toward the end of the program there was more talk about SLS, NASA budget issues, the need to cancel SLS per Bob’s perspective, and economic risks posed to NASA’s planetary science program.  Bob closed out the program with his comments on Inspiration Mars and Mars One, plus a Von Braun comment from 1954 in which it was reported that he said it would take 100 years of research in space to travel to Mars.  Bob said its been 60 years so far and we do not have the capability to do a human flight to Mars today.  Lurio mailed in the last comment about the NASA press conference earlier in the day with his and Bob’s reading that the planetary program was all but dead financially.  The final comments dealt with SLS and the Redirect Mission which Bob completely discounted.

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John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 11-13-13 November 14, 2013

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John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 11-13-13

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Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. Paul Spudis, Gordon Chang, Dr. David Livingston:  Chinese lunar launch, the Chang’e 3 mission.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce.  This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com.  Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm).

During our 11 minute plus discussion, John, Paul, Gordon, and I talked about the upcoming Chang’e 3 mission to land a lunar robotic probe on the Moon with a scheduled launch of Dec. 1, 2013.  Dr. Spudis described the instrument package, the proposed science to be done, the payload capabilities of the launcher setting the stage for future Chinese lunar missions, and the absence of an American lunar program.  Both John and Gordon expressed concern that the Chinese space program is part of their military and they asked several questions detailing their concern with China and a possible military space program.  I agreed with Paul when he said the biggest concern he had was the fact that the U.S. was not in the game, abdicating leadership to the Chinese and others.  We also talked about the power supply for the Chang’e 3 mission hardware and surviving the long and very cold lunar night using batteries.

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Dr. Taylor Dark, Tuesday, 11-5-13 November 6, 2013

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Dr. Taylor Dark, Tuesday, 11-5-13

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Guest:  Dr. Taylor Dark.   Topics:  Space advocacy per his chapter “Reclaiming The Future: Space Advocacy And The Idea Of Progress.”  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Dr. Taylor Dark to the program to discuss his chapter on space advocacy, “Reclaiming The Future: Space Advocacy And The Idea Of Progress.” Dr. Dark’s chapter appeared in a NASA book around 2007, The Societal Impact of Spaceflight.  The .pdf version is a free download at http://history.nasa.gov/sp4801-part1.pdf.  You can read Dr. Dark’s chapter at www.taylordark.com/NASA%20Chapter.pdf.  For more information about our guest, please visit his website, www.taylordark.com. I urge you to read Dr. Dark’s chapter before listening to this program.  During the first segment of our 2 hour 1 minute discussion, Dr. Dark told us about his space advocacy background given that he started the first high school L5 organization when he was around 14 years old.  From there, we talked about aspects of space advocacy and specific personalities such as Dr. Zubrin and Taylor’s early fascination with O’Neill colonies.  He then described his shift to a different view of advocacy during his undergraduate college days.  Taylor went into detail about advocacy being connected to the idea of progress for humanity and listed three major space advocacy claims: (1) No limits on growth or human capacity; (2) All good things go together meaning elements of progress are linked together & are reinforcing; (3) Innate Directionality meaning progress is always probable.  He discussed these claims on air but he goes into them in detail in his chapter.  The utopian or messianic view of some advocates was discussed.  Dr. Dark also pointed out that space advocacy was not the only outlet for science, progress for humanity, etc.  Next, he talked about the frontier idea which he said was a weak argument.  He cited many national experiences that had had no frontier and have done well with their space program.  A listener asked our guest for his three top space arguments which were space exploration for more understanding of the universe, planetary defense of potential NEO hits, & commercial activity that was really profitable.  John called in to talk about the need for low cost space access and RLVs which would in turn cause space advocates to engage in lots of potentially profitable ventures. 

In our second segment, Doug called to talk about the probable costs of the O’Neill vision including the lunar base, SSP, & the habitat.  He suggested space tourism was a potential scalable profitable venture and he talked about space and lunar settlement.  Doug also talked about propellant in Earth orbit and satellites from LEO to GEO.  I spoke with Doug about project financing and how commercial or public sector project viability is analyzed which was different from what Doug talked about.  Taylor suggested that advocates don’t typically engage in something like project financing, instead opting for solutions that fit their advocacy agenda.  Taylor talked about the challenges of many advocacy claims including HE3 and fusion and the need for large space settlements.  As we were ending the discussion, Taylor was asked about the possible impact of microbial life being discovered, past or present, or ET.  We also talked about advocacy for inspiration & education and the impact of the Chinese program on advocacy and civil/commercial space. 

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The John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 10-16-13 October 17, 2013

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The John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 10-16-13

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Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. Joan Johnson-Freese, Gordon Chang Dr. David Livingston:  Topics:  ITAR, NASA & Chinese restriction, Kepler Conference at AMES.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce.  This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com.  Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm).

 During our 11 minute plus discussion, John, Dr. Joan Johnson-Freese, Gordon Chang  and I talked about recent restrictions placed on Chinese students and space industry professionals in attending the Kepler Conference to be held at NASA Ames.  We talked ITAR in general, the Chinese space program which is not a civil program, ITAR’s lack of standards and enforcement, and related issues.  We also discussed related national security issues and choices available to NASA based on congressional actions on these issues.

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Space Show 2000th Program & 12th Anniversary Tribute, Tuesday, 5-7-13 May 8, 2013

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Space Show 2000th Program & 12th Anniversary Tribute, Tuesday, 5-7-13

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Guests:  Dr. John Jurist and Dr. Doug Plata served as co-hosts.  Topics: This program honored The Space Show for its more than 2,000 programs and its upcoming 12th anniversary.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

This Space Show program stands out among all Space Show programs as it honors The Space Show for having passed the 2,000 program mark plus the upcoming 12th anniversary of the program later this month.  Dr. Plata and Dr. John Jurist organized this program, much of which was a surprise to me.  Dr. Plata set up a special tribute email address, honordrspace@gmail.com and they both contacted guests and listeners for their comments on the program and what they believe The Space Show has meant to them, the space world, and to our space development efforts.  Our 1 hour 47 minute program was in two segments but this summary will not be divided by segment as topics overlapped one another. Dr. Jurist asked me lots of questions about how the program started, how it has changed over the years, how the audience has changed, and how I’ve changed.  After asking one or two questions and getting my long winded responses, Dr. Plata read some great emails sent in by guests and listeners.  This was the format for the entire program.  Honestly, I was really surprised by the comments, the statements of support and meaning for The Space Show and by those of you that took time from your busy schedules to say a few words about the program.  It was a very humbling experience for me and I am glad it was an audio only program rather a webinar as I was really moved by the outpouring of support for the program and me.  Doug did not have time to read all the emails that came in but we intend to post them to the blog and will continue posting them to the blog as they come in.  Please use the special email address above but for those of you that use the regular program address, I will copy and post them to the blog as well.  John asked lots of questions about the economic impact on space, both here and around the world, about private space, NASA, human spaceflight, and such.  I spoke about public/private partnerships, the need, in my opinion, for American leadership in science and space, and why.  We also took phone calls from listeners wanting to comment on this special Space Show program.  As our program was drawing to a close, John asked me about library quality archives for research with a truly searchable, interactive academic data base.  We talked about this, what it might take to do it given the number and average length of Space Show programs.  If any of you have actual library, research and multimedia academic catalog search experience, we would like to hear from you to find out about creating a truly researchable, academic Space Show catalog/library.  If you have that type of specialized experience, please contact me using drspace@thespaceshow.com.  Perhaps we will create a funding mechanism to create the library for our archived programs and new programs coming up.

We welcome your comments/questions and more so post them on The Space Show blog.  I look forward to many more years with The Space Show, to continuing to provide a civil and credible forum for the discussion of all perspectives and points of view, and to give a voice to many of you that have much to say but are without a microphone. This program was number 2,004 and as I said on the air, the program would not exist without you the listeners and with you the guests who so freely give of your time to help us all learn more about space, science, and all that we talk about and share on The Space Show.  Thank you very much and as I said on the show and as many of you said as well, the next 2,000 shows will be even more valuable to us all than the first 2,000!  The Space Show only exists because of you the listeners and you the guests.  I never lose sight of that.  I never will.

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Dr. Henry Hertzfeld, Tuesday, 3-5-13 March 6, 2013

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Dr. Henry Hertzfeld, Tuesday, 3-5-13

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Guest:  Dr. Henry Hertzfeld.  Topics:  Commercial space, Mars, human spaceflight, regulations & economics.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed Dr. Henry Hertzfeld back to the show for a fascinating 90 minute discussion regarding commercial space, human spaceflight (HSF), recently announced HSF Mars missions, increasing the launch rate, and more.  During our initial segment, Dr. Hertzfeld addressed my question about lowering launch prices to increase the launch rate.  Dr. Hertzfeld did a classic economic study on this subject several years ago and I asked him if today’s current market and commercial space progress had altered his earlier conclusions.  He said no. Later, I asked if space solar power (SSP) could drive launch rates down.  The short answer was no but don’t miss what he had to say about SSP economics, launches, and debris issues.  Jerry emailed in a question about SpaceX being a commercial company given its receipt of government money.  Henry had much to say about what makes a company commercial or not and if it is even an important issue.  Another listener wanted to know about the deep space commercial ventures announced in 2012 and in 2013.  The listener wanted to know if these were really commercial ventures, if regulations could stop them, and what would happen re the ventures needing property rights or the equivalent.  One of the things our guest reiterated several times during our discussion was the need for stability and predictability for the commercial industry.  Questions came in about benefit sharing and he mentioned the likelihood that some sort of international system would develop on these issues. I asked what constituted an acceptable ROI and the example of controlled ROIs as in the utility industry came up.  Doug wanted to know about rocket reusability and its impact on launch costs.  We also talked about both Mars One and the new Inspiration Mars mission.  As part of this discussion, astronaut rescue and the rescue treaty were discussed.  In the second segment, Doug called to discuss property rights for a NEO as opposed to the Moon, wondering if the Moon might be more valuable.  Doug & Henry talked about our having returned lunar rockets as a model for commercially returning lunar products but Henry suggested there might be a difference in returning something for science as compared to commercial exploitation.  Later, we addressed human spaceflight and its challenges.  The Chinese space program was brought up as was the risk of a space war.  Dr. Hertzfeld was asked about putting 10,000 people on Mars, space migration, species survival, space settlement, and the need to explore as possible drivers for HSF.  My final question pertained to our evolving to a business friendly environment in space.  Simply put, we are not there yet.

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Dr. John S. Lewis, Wednesday, 2-20-13 February 24, 2013

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Dr. John S. Lewis, Wednesday, 2-20-13

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Guest:  Dr. John S. Lewis.  Topics:  The Chelyabinsk meteorite, Asteroid 2012 DA14, the Chinese program and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed back Dr. John Lewis to discuss recent meteorite impacts, NEO flybys, asteroid minding, the Chinese space program and more.  In the first segment of our 90 minute program, Dr. Lewis talked briefly about accepting the position of Chief Scientist for the new company, Deep Space Industries.  He also spoke in general terms about this emerging industry.  Our initial caller asked Dr. Lewis about his writing science fiction so you will hear about that as well.  We then turned our attention to the Chelyabinsk meteorite and the flyby of Asteroid 2012 DA14.  Visit www.johnslewis.com for detailed information on these events plus much more.  The Russian meteorite  was estimated to be about 10,000 tons or the mass of a U.S. Navy cruiser.  Dr. Lewis explained why it was not detected before hitting the atmosphere.  We then speculated on what would have happened had it come in over a large city such as London.  Dr. Lurio called in to talk about his joining Deep Space Industries as the Chief Scientist.  Charles also wanted to know about the previous announcements that he would be an advisor for Planetary Resources.  Dr. Lewis explained this and corrected misunderstandings regarding the issues addressed by the question.  Jack sent in an email seeking mining comparisons here on Earth to those in space given his being in mining country in Virginia.  Another listener asked about the potential dollar value of the Chelyabinsk meteorite.  In his response, John suggested the best value for using asteroids in space re ISRU.  Another question came up about hollowing out an asteroid and using it for HSF travel.  Dr. Lewis talked about this idea dating back to 1918 and Robert Goddard.  Kelly asked about moving an asteroid to a low lunar orbit and if a human mission to a NEO was a good stepping stone for a human flight to Mars. John had much to say to us on both of Kelly’s questions.

In the second segment, we opened with my asking John about the Chinese space program and their high launch rate.  Don’t miss John’s comprehensive answer about both the Chinese military space program and their quasi-civil space program.  It was most informative.  Next, John told us about an incident when he was 13 years old living in a Boston suburb with what was probably a meteorite coming in overhead that disturbed his entire neighborhood.  It’s a fascinating story that illustrates events like we just saw in Russia are fairly common throughout history.  Don’t miss this story!  Another topic in this segment was the low quality science and news reporting in this country. Dr. Lewis expressed concern about this with some explanations to help us understand the reality of today’s news reporting services.  Listener Bruce sent in an email asking about nuclear explosions to deflect a larger asteroid and doing such tests in space.  Again, Dr. Lewis had much to say and offer us on this issue.  This led to a discussion on detecting Earth-bound NEOs, what sizes we can and cannot detect today, the amount of warning time we might have and more.  Near the end of our discussion, Emma in NYC sent in a note asking John what the Chelyabinsk meteorite  would have looked like had it come in over a Martian settlement.  John’s response was fascinating and very descriptive.  Pooley sent in an email with the classic NASA NEO website, http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/ca.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can reach Dr. Lewis through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com or his own blog per above.