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Dr. Paul Spudis, Friday, 12-11-15 December 12, 2015

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Dr. Paul Spudis, Friday, 12-11-15

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Guest: Dr. Paul Spudis. Topics. 2015 space year review, RTM & Cislunar development, comprehensive key space issues review. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Paul Spudis back to the program for a 2015 space year in review. During the first segment of our 1 hour 31 minute discussion, we covered much ground reviewing key events of 2015 including European, Russian, & Chinese space accomplishments & missions. Dr. Spudis got several emails on a wide range of topics from space advocate rhetoric to Orion, CST 100, Dragon V2 and more. Regarding advocate mission plans and projects, he said the technology people talk about and want to use in their various space mission designs does not really exist. He used going to the Moon to harvest water ice for water and fuel as an example of where we are today. That said, he indicated that there are only so many wants to do certain types of space projects so it was likely that which advocates called for could end up in actual mission plans and real projects. Budget issues were also discussed as well in this segment. Listener Christa asked if the return to the Moon and cislunar development will become a future policy priority. Dr. Spudis had much to say on this topic so don’t miss it. This included the possible impact of the 2016 presidential election on space policy. Jeff in Boston inquired about the aging process and other human factors as challenges/obstacles to doing BLEO projects. Dr. Spudis offered us an interesting perspective on the human factors issues. Jack in Portland inquired about our guest’s views on asteroid mining and the language used in the new commercial space law recently signed b the president. Our guest shared his views with us on these issues. We talked public-private partnerships and government procurement. Kim called from Mexico to inquire about the Lalande Crater on the Moon & the cracks or fissures seen in the photos, plus impact melt and more. She also talked about young and old craters which Paul defined for us upon my request. A young crater would be less than a billion years old! Near the end of the segment Paul talked about the challenges in closing a business case for going to the Moon at this time, plus the proper role for government in this situation. Sandra asked about the lunar space elevator.

In the second segment, Kim called back to inquire some more about Lalande crater, thorium bright spots, and more. BJohn emailed in asking about lunar landers, then Rodney brought up space settlement. Paul had interesting comments on space settlement you will wan to hear. A good portion of the second segment was spent on Mars. Back to the budget, he said the challenge was to do more in the most efficient ways possible while reducing the need for more funding. The Mars-Moon debate came up again with Paul explaining why returning to the Moon before going to Mars was important Solar power for missions and habitats was discussed along wit ISRU usage. Don’t forget to reach Paul’s article on Air and Space about the asteroid mining section in the Commercial Space Law just signed into reality by President Obama. See Paul’s writings at www.airspacemag.com/author/paul-d-spudis/?no-ist as well as at www.spudislunarresources.com. While there, check out his “Close but no Cigar” article we discussed on air (www.spudislunarresources.com/blog/the-new-space-resources-law-close-but-no-cigar).

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Dr. Charles Lurio, Tuesday, 11-10-15 November 11, 2015

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Dr. Charles Lurio, Tuesday, 11-10-15

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Guest: Dr. Charles Lurio.  Topic:  Commercial Space law updates, NASA, SLS, HSF, space leadership plus more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed back Dr. Charles Lurio for this comprehensive commercial space update plus Dr. Lurio took a hard look at human spaceflight.  During the first segment of our nearly 1 hour 55 minute show, Charles started with the news that broke just before airtime that congress had approved the new commercial space legislation.  The House and Senate compromised on the learning period extending it to 2023.  Charles hit on some highlights of the bill but said he had not yet had time to read the final version since the news literally broke minutes before air time.  Other first segment discussion topics included the return to flight for Falcon 9 and the Cygnus which will launch on an Atlas 5 until Antares has a return to flight sometime early next year.  Charles talked about the new Russian rocket motor for Antares and its relationship to other major Russian rocket motors.  Next, we talked about the NASA delay for the commercial cargo awards and their letter to Boeing saying that the cargo version of the CST 100 was no longer under consideration.  Charles speculated that the delay might have been taken to allow for return to flight for the Falcon and for the Cygnus on the Atlas 5.  Paul in NY emailed Charles asking for him to tell us his favorite commercial space company and his favorite NewSpace company.  Charles said he loved SpaceX and commented on them moving the ground in the launch industry.  He said he has always been a fan of XCOR and gave us some update at to the XCOR progress and challenges, especially in their wing production.  Charles also said that the asteroid mining companies, particularly Deep Space Industries, were starting to attract foreign capital as he mentioned investment interest from the Czech Republic.  I asked Charles if he was satisfied with the way the industry was developing so far.  He said he was amazed with it and what has happened so far, but made the point that commercial space was far from being on easy street.  He then explained his comments listing examples to support his comments.  I asked him about the NASA Roadmap to Mars and he repeated back to me, you meant the “Jokemap” to Mars?  That should provide you with a clue as to the rest of the discussion on this topic.  Before the break, Don called from New Hampshire to talk about radiation, Brookhaven, and human spaceflight.  Charles and Don talked about shielding, the lack of real quality experiments plus finding out answers to other needed questions for HSF BELO including life support systems, microgravity, plus lots more. Charles concluded that NASA was not serious about space, something many guests have said over and over again in recent years.  Don said the system management was shortsighted.  Charles said what we needed was a new NACA, not so much NASA.  This remained a theme for Charles for the rest of the show.  Before ending the call, Don talked about Japanese radiation experiments and equipment that NASA won’t use, citing NE213 and a newer version, EJ301.

 

In the second segment, I asked Charles what would be a reasonable set of expectations for our commercial and HSF program given the state of comprehensive matters facing the US and the world at this time in 2015.  Charles had some very interesting things to say in response to this question which actually commanded most of the second segment.  A subtopic in this discussion was the subject of technology and technology development.  Again, don’t miss what he said about technology.  I asked Charles about the development of cislunar space and the Moon.  He would welcome both but listen to all of what he had to say about this because he repeated himself that we were not doing anything.  Doug in S. California called in with multiple questions for Charles about what was needed for a flyby to Mars and more.  It appeared to me that Doug was not getting what Charles was talking about though Charles kept saying that Doug was not asking the right set of questions.  In summary, I think Doug was suggesting technology advancements lowering costs for example, would compel policy makers and the public to support and create the space policy we seem to yearn for when this subject comes up on the show. Charles kept repeating that the technology to be used was not the issue. Instead, the issue was political in that there was no will to do things, no leadership.  Since this is something I have ranted about on many Space Show programs, I supported Charles on the leadership issue and I do believe that having the will to do something serious in space and having the leadership to actually get policies in place that can be implemented are much bigger problems than the technology or even the financial side of things.  Once the policy and will are there, implementation is next and that is when technology will be looked at and decided upon.  See what you think about this discussion with Dr. Doug.  Later, on the same subject, Charles said it was very difficult to change society attitudes.  Doug Messier emailed in comments that it was easy to rant on NASA but pointed out the slow going of many commercial space projects from suborbital development to rocket development.  Doug suggested that had progress been faster, leadership and some of the issues Charles was bringing up would be there and the industry might be different today.  Both Charles and I agreed with Doug Messier except the reality on the ground is what has to be dealt with and for which solutions are needed regarding moving the commercial industry and HSF forward.  As the show was ending, Charles said development would not and does not follow a predicted path.  He also said that it was possible for there to be “moments of great acceleration” that could jump us forward.  This subject has not come up in recent years on TSS but it is worth noting that one cannot count on or build project around the hope for serendipity to change something.  Great if it happens but no way can one count on or plan  on it happening.  In the end, Charles and I both said that there is far more leadership awareness today than yesterday. I suggested that from Space Show interviews, lots of bright people were focused on solving this problem and I had faith that it would be solved though I had no idea of a timeline or what the solution would look like.  Charles concluded that commercial space and HSF will continue to evolve incrementally over time on an unpredicted path.

 

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Jay Wittner, Ron Jones, Sunday, 10-18-15 October 19, 2015

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Jay Wittner, Ron Jones, Sunday, 10-18-15

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Guests: Jay Wittner, Ron Jones. Topics: The Integrated Space Plan which is a real and detailed timeline of our future in space for the next 100 years. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed both Jay Wittner and Ron Jones to the program to discuss the Integrated Space Plan (ISP), “a real and detailed timeline of our future in space for the next 100 years. Vehicles, Stations, Settlements, Moon, Mars, Asteroids.” You can see the ISP at https://integratedspaceanalytics.com/cms/plan and also their previously successful Kickstarter site, www.kickstarter.com/projects/486671231/integrated-space-plan-envisioning-humanitys-future. Wired Magazine did an excellent article on the plan which you can download and read at www.wired.com/2015/08/wildly-detailed-100-year-plan-getting-humans-mars.. Discovery also did a nice article on the ISP dated Oct. 16, 2015 which you can read and download @ http://news.discovery.com/space/private-spaceflight/isp-the-ultimate-plan-to-launch-humanity-to-the-stars-151016.htm. During the first segment, Ron provided us with the history of the ISP which goes back several decades. He explained its purpose and how it has changed and evolved over time. In fact, later in the show I asked our guests if the time had finally come for the ISP to come into its own given the developments and progress in space development. You will certainly want to hear this discussion which comes much later in the show. The first segment is mostly devoted to describing the ISP and responding to basic listener questions about it as it was new to most listeners. I also urge you to look at it on the web using the above links so you can be come familiar with the plan and its blocks. Remember, it is a broad enabling approach that includes many different paths to accomplish space development, exploration and a spacefaring economy/society. It is not about a specific program or project as we are used to discussing on The Space Show. Specific plans and projects can nicely fit in the appropriate blocks on the ISP as the ISP is a collection of logical and plausible multiple paths to space development without saying this or that specific plan is THE plan we must follow. Toward the end of the first segment, John in Freemont, CA asked about the Shackleton Energy plan as was recently discussed on The Space Show. This was a good example for our guests to show how the ISP could nicely accommodate the Shackleton plan but that the ISP was actually much broader and more inclusive than just the three part Shackleton plan discussed on The Space Show. As you will hear, there is no conflict between the two.

In the second segment, Jay was asked how people could get a poster copy of the ISP. Jay and Ron told listeners how to order a poster copy (the rolled version in a tube is the best way to get it). We also talked about support for the ISP by many from within all segments of the space industry. Later, much was said about outreach for the private sector and also the student population, especially through SEDS. Jay and Ron invited listener participation and feedback and they gave out their respective email addresses or told listeners how to find their addresses on their website, www.thespaceplan.com.   We talked about disruptive technologies and how they were represented on the ISP. GPS was used as an example since I referenced Uber from our Friday Space Show program. As part of our disruptive discussion, our guests talked about SpaceX, the Falcon Heavy, reusability, and more. A listener asked about cislunar development and how that was represented on the ISP. Frequent Space Show guest Gerald Driggers called in with many interesting comments so make sure you listen to his discussion. His call was followed by John from Ft. Worth asking about actual markets & customers for the businesses.  Our guests talked about the key to customers would be lowering the cost to orbit, then they mentioned space tourism and specific payloads. As our program was ending, both guests offered closing comments and take away statements.   Both made a final appeal for listener participation and feedback as the ISP is a continuingly evolving plan.

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Dr. Bruce Damer, Friday, 6-12-15 June 12, 2015

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Dr. Bruce Damer, Friday, 6-12-15

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Guest:  Dr. Bruce Damer.  Topics:  Sustainable space exploration to Mars & elsewhere per his two TEDxSantaCruz talks.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed Dr. Bruce Damer back to the show to discuss his two new TEDxSantaCruz talks regarding sustainable space exploration and new theories on the origins of life.  Watch the first of his two TEDx talks on sustainable space exploration at www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLMHcUg36yc.  His second TEDx talk addressing new theories on the origins of life can be viewed at www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qiW4aUqtvA.  In the first segment of our 1 hour 28 minute discussion, Dr. Damer introduced us to his concept for sustainable space exploration, including round trips to Mars.  His spacecraft is the S.H.E.P.E.R.D   which he fully explained with great animation in the TEDx talk.  This is a method for capturing and enclosing a small but valuable asteroid between Mars and Jupiter, using a chemical process to mine it for volatiles and to fill special tanks with the volatiles and return the cargo to where it is needed, Mars, the moons of Mars, cislunar space, the Moon, or an orbiting space station.  Bruce spent the first segment of our program discussing this technology and the concept, plus explaining how it can be used to facilitate and enhance human spaceflight including human exploration of the solar system.  The YouTube video is just under 10 minutes so be sure to watch it.  Listeners asked him many questions to fully understand the concept so the YouTube talk and his Space Show discussion go hand in hand with one another.

 

In the second segment, Bruce as asked about the cost to develop, launch, and operate S.H.E.P.E.R.D for a humans to Mars mission.  Bruce did not have costs available but used the Rosetta Mission as an approximate guideline for estimating costs. Also in this segment, he noted the use of inflatables in space and the long history of success in using them back to the early days of the space age and the Echo communication satellites.  He also referenced Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 on orbit through Bigelow Aerospace.  He then said that inflatables would be safer for humans due to less radiation.  Don’t miss his comment on this issue.  Bruce then talked about water and shielding.  As the program was nearing its end, Dr. Damer discussed the second TEDx talk regarding new theories on the origins of life.  He also connected the dots for us with both talks so don’t miss what he had to say. By the way, the sustainable space exploration talk opened the TEDx session and his origins of life talk was the closing talk at the event.  Toward the end, he talked about outreach with his new idea and said he would be giving a FISO talk on S.H.E.P.E.R.D June 24 so those of you who listen to FISO talks be sure to catch this one live or on archives.  Before the show ended, Bill emailed in a question asking him if he had a compelling rational for Martian HSF.  Don’t miss what he said about this.  A Phoenix listener asked Dr. Damer if his concept would help Mars One.  Then a series of questions came in asking Bruce about the use of his idea for going to the Moon, cislunar development, the moons of Mars or someplace else in the solar system.  Bruce said it would support all of these missions and explained why.  Jim asked Bruce to explain why he thought mining an asteroid would be so difficult and far out yet he was mining volatiles from the asteroids he covers up with his plan.  Bruce explained that he was using a chemical process to free up the volatiles, not mining them.

 

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Dr. Paul Spudis, Monday, 1-19-15 January 20, 2015

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Dr. Paul Spudis, Monday, 1-19-15

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Guest:  Dr. Paul Spudis.  Topics:  Science, ARM, 2016 elections & space policy, return to the Moon and much more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Dr. Paul Spudis for this 1 hour 52 minute discussion.  Note that we lost our phone connection with Dr. Spudis several times in the second segment.  I’ve removed the dead air and related time sequences but you will know when we lost the connection.  Each time we got Dr. Spudis back on the line we then started where we were cut off. No discussion comments were lost. I apologize for the inconvenience.  In Part One, I asked Dr. Spudis how he assessed a change in space policy that might include a return to the Moon as a result of the 2016 presidential elections.  Its an interesting space policy and historical discussion you don’t want to miss.  I then directed our discussion to the article Dr. Spudis wrote on his blog, http://www.spudislunarresources.com/blog/overthrowing-science, “Overthrowing Science.”  I urge you to read this article as we spent the balance of the first segment discussing his observations and perspectives and the order of scientific development and progress.  As we approached the end of the segment, I asked Paul how we could protect ourselves from the misleading and manipulative information often presented to us as science.  He offered a few suggestions including the need to be skeptical & to do at least basic due diligence on the subject from a variety of sources.

In the second segment, we turned our attention to an article,  http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/19/7560263/nasa-asteroid-redirect-mission-politcal-suicide, “Is NASA’s asteroid mission the agency’s political downfall?”  For about half of this segment, Paul went into detail on the ARM, why it was problematic at best, the constraints of such a mission, and more.  For those interested in the ARM, this is an exceptionally detailed discussion so don’t miss it.  Listeners then wanted to return to classic Dr. Spudis so the lunar questions started coming in via email.  Doug sent in a few emails asking about lunar volatiles, LCROSS, and the use of lunar solar panels for the energy of a lunar habitat.  Paul said initially the power would be solar but it would have to evolve to nuclear fission reactors.  BJohn wanted to know about the Lunar Resource Prospecting Rover plus he asked questions about lunar results from asteroid hits.  Tim asked about a reusable lunar shuttle and Dr. Kiehl asked lunar mining and crater questions.  Several other listeners sent emails comparing terrestrial geology to lunar and Martian geology, even asking if studying petroleum geology in grad school would be relevant to space planetary geology since the person wanted to work in the space industry.  Toward the end Paul was asked about the progress of cislunar development.  I asked our guest for closing comments so again, listen sharply as he had important things to say for us all.

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Dr. Paul Spudis, Monday, 10-20-14 October 21, 2014

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Dr. Paul Spudis, Monday, 10-20-14

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Guest:  Dr. Paul Spudis.  Topics:  A wide ranging discussion on current space topics including the Moon, ARM, Mars, and policy.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Paul Spudis back to the program for a wide ranging discussion on space topics plus we take a look at some of his recent blog posts.  You can follow his blog posts at www.spudislunarresources.com/blog and http://www.airspacemag.com/tag/once-and-future-moon/?no-cache&no-ist.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 52 minute program, Dr. Spudis talked about his blog article for a lunar tour, “A Lunar Road Trip” (www.spudislunarresources.com/blog/a-lunar-road-trip).  We talked with Paul about ways in which a future lunar tourist could actually move around on the Moon to see the places Paul described in his article.   The two methods discussed were hopping and using a vehicle on the order of the Lunar Winnebago concept.  The first listener question asked Dr. Spudis about the U.S. private sector doing lunar missions instead of the government.  He was also asked about the private lunar programs such as Golden Spike and others.  He spoke to some degree about the Google Lunar XPrize.  Paul also addressed the Chinese lunar program, then we talked about cislunar space and its economic development.  The ARM came up and Dr. Spudis called it a stunt.  He suggested it would be an Orion mission because there was no place to send Orion other than ARM.  He mentioned Inspiration Mars which he said was the ultimate stunt and ahead of its time.  In terms of changes in our space policy, he did not see any changes happening soon.  Next up was the NRC Pathways HSF Study which we have discussed on many Space Show program.  He said they asked and answered the wrong questions.  See what you think after hearing his comments.  Another topic that came up dealt with prizes.  He said they had not produced the desired outcome and cited evidence for it  saying prizes were overstated in terms of their impact on space development.  BJohn sent in several email questions including asking about Moon-Mars differences wondering why the Moon would be a good training place for HSF to Mars.  As the segment ended, we talked about water on the Moon and if it was now confirmed.

In the second segment, we honored James Charles Floyd on his 100th birthday for his role in the Canadian Avro Aero project and more.  BJohn asked about X37 B & then Dr. Spudis was asked about his blog post regarding recent government sponsored spaceflight studies and panels (“Quinquennial Follies” at http://www.spudislunarresources.com/blog/quinquennial-follies).  I asked Paul about space advocacy influence on policy and he told us an interesting story based on his experience regarding lunar space policy.  Don’t miss it.  Listeners asked about our technology readiness today for cislunar development and the building of a lunar outpost.  Our last email question came from Phil in New Brunswick asking about virtual space universities, teaching, and lectures.

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Dr. Mike Griffin, Tuesday, 9-16-14 September 17, 2014

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Dr. Mike Griffin, Tuesday, 9-16-14

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Guest:  Dr. Mike Griffin.  Topics: Human spaceflight policy, political choices, space technology, Mars, Moon, Asteroids and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back to the program Dr. Mike Griffin.  During the first segment of our 90 minute discussion, Mike talked about human spaceflight (HSF) and the commercial space market.  He said exploration would be a government project or at least with government in the lead, especially if the commercial market was not there.  He threw water on the argument that our space policy was budget driven.  Instead, he talked about it being based on choices we make. It was not and is not about the money.  His comments throughout or discussion on this topic supported his argument.  He even said the cost of space for the U.S. taxpayer was around 15 cents/day.  This discussion evolved to one on the importance of leadership which we agreed was in short supply today.  Included in this discussion was Mike’s vision for our space policy & program, plus he explained its importance and value to our nation both today and for the future.  He spoke to the issue of what society wants and the choices it makes that shape our future.  Space should be part of our national policy debate and hopefully such a debate would enable quality choices to be made that keep us on the leadership edge with all nations.   Mike was asked who he thought would be next on the Moon and he said China.  We also talked about the private sector taking us back to the Moon with HSF.  He said that the private sector could do this, capital was not an issue, but for the private sector to do it there needs to be a closing of the business case which he did not see at this time.  SLS John called in & asked about space advocacy diversity which he said seemed to be at war with NASA & whatever the program of record might be.  Mike had much to say about this, especially about inefficiencies in government organizations and projects.  He also said if the private venture or industry cannot make money, then it should be a federal project. Many times during our discussion he said that there are things that a society should do just because they are hard & they don’t have to look good on the balance sheet.  John also asked about the RD-180 engine, Mike offered us his conclusion as to why we should be a new version of the RD-180 so that we do not continue being dependent on Russia for space related hardware, etc.  Later, he was asked about cislunar space development which he said should be a public enterprise.  He cited many examples and models supporting the public development of this important space infrastructure.  SLS was discussed.  Mike very clearly articulated the case for SLS today and again repeated that SLS future missions are about choices, not the budget.  Don’t miss his comments.  As the segment ended, Randy emailed a question asking for the rational & silver bullet for HSF.  In my opinion, Mike gave an excellent response to this question so don’t miss it.

In the second segment, Mike got some questions about NASA doing more R&D and even forming a NACA-like division or program.  We talked about NASA R&D, the need for a NACA-like program and more.  Dave, our caller, commented on leadership, then Bill in Denver emailed in a question about using fuel depots and smaller launch vehicles rather than heavy lift vehicles like SLS.  Again, Mike had much to say about heavy lift, including that while possible to do smaller vehicle launches., the numbers don’t pan out for efficiency.  You need to listen to this full discussion which also addressed some bogus assumptions regarding inefficient heavy lift decision making.  Nuclear propulsion and Vasimr came up, , then we again focused on vision that takes on big challenges because we can!  More was said on lunar colonies evolving to longer BLEO missions plus cislunar commerce, especially cislunar cargo missions.  Another listener asked about being dependent on the Russians for HSF to the ISS and if shuttle was retired too early.  Mike talked about having wanted to fly shuttle at a minimum rate annually until a new vehicle was operational.  We talked about the role of the congress and White House as compared to the role of the NASA Administrator.  Later, we talked about the role of public support and individuals petitioning congress on space policy.  Listen to his story about the Hubble repair mission.  I even asked if poorly written and fantasy driven letters to informed staffers helped or hurt the cause.  Listen for Mike’s response. In summary, Mike said his wish was that people would share is view that there are important things for society to do but that don’t look good on a balance sheet.  In the end, he said he was optimistic that his positive views on space would prevail and that when policy makers realized that China was going to put people on the Moon and what that would mean for the US, it would not be allowed to happen.

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Dr. Mike Griffin, Tuesday, 10-29-13 October 30, 2013

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Dr. Mike Griffin, Tuesday, 10-29-13

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Guest:  Dr. Mike Griffin.  Topics:  This was a wide ranging and broad discussion re US space policy, commercial space, HSF, lunar issues, & more.  . Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm

During the first segment of our 91 minute discussion with Mike, we talked about the lack of a coherent national space policy and how best to use tax payer dollars for the public good.  Mike discussed the fact that there was no credible alternative to the RTM program, no clear path to any set of discernible goals.  I asked Mike about NASAs asteroid redirect mission.  He did say it had interesting potential and it was better than nothing but as listeners agreed, it was not a grabbing and inspiring program.  Listeners asked Mike about Constellation which he said was a space system architecture.  We talked about a lunar base and access to Mars.  I asked Mike about the public’s interest in space & you don’t want to miss his response.  Daniel brought up budget issues, commercial ventures, and the current administration.  We also talked public/private partnerships and multi-year programs and policy challenges.  Mike was asked about the VSE and bipartisan support though Jon emailed in his disagreement on that issue.  Mike talked about goals as being important to congress and the need for an effective policy to have bipartisan support.  Mike was asked about the ISS and the potential for discovery and we he responded to a listener question about the mass needed in orbit to support a lower mass on the Moon.  The ratio is 10::1. 

In the second segment, June asked about economies of size in launch vehicles and heavy lift.  Barbara emailed in about a COTS like program for HSF.  Trent called from Australia to inquire about Stratolaunch.  Doug called to ask about cislunar development and what a program that supported that development might look like.  Mike had much to say on this subject, don’t miss it.  We talked extensively about the role of government and the private sector, including government subsidies.  A listener talked about scientific discovery and serendipity.  John asked about the Ares 1 vibration and solids in comparison to liquids for safety.  John in Ft. Worth asked Mike about SLS and Orion as a capabilities holding program and Mike agreed.  The idea is to maintain capabilities until the time they can be used.  During the entire program, I asked Mike about his public service, how he dealt with attacks and criticism, and how he got his interest in space.  This is an important discussion. 

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Brad Blair, Tuesday, 10-23-12 October 24, 2012

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Brad Blair, Tuesday, 10-23-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1879-BWB-2012-10-23.mp3

Guest: Brad Blair.  Topics:  Space debris mitigation ideas, space governance, space mining, ISRU, plus other topics.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work, but must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies. We welcomed Brad Blair back to the program to discuss several issues including a law suit against governments per the Liability Convention to create a super fund to use in mitigating space debris.  Other topics included space mining, ISRU development, HSF to Mars, Cislunar development, the Red Bull Stratos jump, space skydiving, the NIAC-RAP (Robotic Asteroid Prospector Project), and more.  During the first segment of our two hour discussion, Brad focused on the space debris lawsuit. He explained the concept, the state liability issues in the Liability Convention, the idea of creating a superfund, and practical issues in doing this.  He suggested interested parties talk to space attorney Declan O’Donnell for more information.  Declan, a frequent Space Show guest, can be contacted using isdac.usis@gmail.com or 1-800-632-2828.  We fielded many listeners questions and phone calls about the lawsuit & superfund idea, some of which continued into the second segment.  Brad talked about large and small debris removal issues, mostly in LEO, and he suggested the use of Earth-based lasers as a debris removal tool.  We also talked about space salvage & the use of a bidding system for private companies to remove & possibly recycle space debris.  As we neared the end of the segment, Doug asked about Lunar ISRU, either excavating or using explosives on the Moon, and mining tools such as the slusher bucket.

Our second segment started off with Brad talking about space mining & the use of space resources. He then talked about his NIAC RAP project.  A caller asked him why the taxpayers should fund space debris cleanup per his lawsuit idea.  You will want to hear this discussion.  We got several emails and a call from Spike regarding debris and mining issues.  Next, Brad talked about commercial markets and market development for space projects.  He also talked about the potential of 3D printing and said many times that we are at a tipping point for commercial space development. He talked about space visions for space settlement and development.  Doug called back to ask about his space skydiving ideas using a rocket instead of a balloon.  At the program’s end, he told us about his venture, NewSpace Analytics, LLC.

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Walt Anderson, Friday, 10-5-12 October 5, 2012

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Walt Anderson, Friday, 10-5-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1866-BWB-2012-10-05.mp3

Guest:  Walter (Walt) Anderson.  Topics:  Walt rejoins the space community after seven plus years & talks about it all!  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. NOTE:  Walt’s comments and opinions are his and his alone, some may be controversial, & some of you may be offended. As I said at the end of the program & on various blog posts during the week before this program, The Space Show believes Mr. Anderson has as much right to speak freely on The Space Show as any other guest.  We strongly believe in second chances for people and new beginnings.  We are an educational program and we air all sides of complicated issues & do not shy away from controversy.  Walt Anderson is not an exception to Space Show policy.  On a personal note, I wish Walt great success in his new ventures and in fulfilling his deep commitment to expanding space for the benefit of us all.  All listeners are encouraged & welcome to post comments about this program on The Space Show blog with civility being the only requirement for your comments.
     During the first segment of our discussion, I asked Walt to tell us how the space industry has changed during his absence from the business.  Walt talked about many changes for the better, noting the change in government policy which is now supportive of the private space industry.  A listener asked him about his thoughts on NewSpace being ready for prime time investment. Walt had much to say on this topic & specifically mentioned three prime areas including resource usage & asteroid mining/capture, SSP, & space habitats.  From this discussion, Walt talked about management team importance & quality.  Walt was asked about technology changes & his getting up to speed with new technology.  He had interesting things to say so don’t miss it.  Next, our discussion took a different turn as Ben asked about movie & TV prison stereotypes, prison friends, running the “biz” from prison, etc.  Walt spoke openly and directly in response to Ben’s questions.  He also had much to say about prisoner treatment in our federal prison system.  Carl emailed in to ask Walt about federal liens against him & what happens to any new monies raised for new business ventures.  Does the government seize such funds raised?  Walt openly addressed these concerns.
     In our second segment, Trent from Down Under asked about the upcoming SpaceX mission to the ISS and Nanoracks.  From here we started talking about MirCorp & the efforts to privately buy Mir, Walt’s role in that, what happened with NASA, Dan Goldin, even Dennis Tito.  Walt discussed the electrostatic tether project & what happened just a day too late.  Rick Tumlinson called & also talked about Mir, Dennis Tito, & this early commercial attempt to buy the Mir Space Station.  At my request, Rick told us about his new Earthlight Institute project.  Near the end, Walt was asked about suborbital space developments & citizen science projects.  Final discussion topics included his preference for either human spaceflight or commercial robotic missions, asteroid and lunar mining, & NASA budget issues.  Walt left us with a set of thoughtful concluding comments so make sure you hear them.
     Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show Blog.  If you want to email Walt, do so through me & I will forward your note to him.