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Charles Chafer, Monday, 10-26-15 October 27, 2015

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Charles Chafer, Monday, 10-26-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2572-BWB-2015-10-26.mp3

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Guest: Charles Chafer. Topics: Commercial space history & overview, space burial and memorial services. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Charlie Chafer back to the program to discuss commercial space, the Celestis space memorial services and flights, plus much more. During the first segment of our 88 minute program, Charlie started out by providing an overview of the commercial space history since he played a huge role in its start decades ago. For example, he talked about the fist ever commercial launch that was done by his company, the regulatory and permit process back then, and how the industry has evolved since those early days. It’s a most interesting discussion with one of the major founders of the commercial space industry. We then changed topic to talk about the space memorial services and how this industry has changed since 1994 when Charlie co-founded Celestis. As for today, Celestis has a global customer space offering several categories of space memorial services, all of which are described on the Celestis website, www.celestis.com. There launches are far more routine today with more launch vehicle availability. Regarding the lunar service, he talked about sending Eugene Shoemaker’s remains to the Moon, then later in the second segment, he talked about the commercial space significance of having done this. Celestis offers four services including Earth Rise which is suborbital, an orbital service known as Earth Orbit or Earth view, the Lunar Service, and the Voyager Service which is a deep space mission. He described each service but also he talked at length as to how Celestis carries out a memorial spaceflight starting with advance work before the launch, tours of the launch pad, a special Celestial memorial service, and the launch. Listeners asked Charlie several questions about the service including listener Judy who had seen rocket launches before and wondered how those attending a memorial service launch viewed watching a rocket launch. Before the segment ended, Charlie was asked about pet memorial services. Celestis offers the Celestis Pets Memorial service. Check out www.celestispets.com for more information on this service.

In the second segment, we focused on commercial space, customers, markets, commercial waves and more. Our guest pointed out some thoughts that might suggest a possible commercial space “bubble” ahead. He also talked about & described the three waves of commercial space history. Charlie talked about his interest in opening up commercial markets in the space weather field and we talked about the value of data as a product. Regarding SSP which he mentioned, he said it has not developed but may do so down the road in the future. The same for pharmaceuticals and other energy related possibilities. We talked about the many commercial applications, customers, and uses for GPS, truly a successful commercial space field and product. A listener asked Charlie how he thought the commercial markets might change if we had low cost commercial launches available to go to private, commercial space stations instead of the ISS. Jake wanted to know Charlie’s thoughts on SLS and Orion. I asked Charlie if he saw any possibilities for human spaceflight commercial products or services in the near to intermediate term. Other points of interest included space tourism and adventure travel, especially for orbital flight which might be 15-17 years in the future. A listener then asked Charlie about the lunar memorial service and if you had to be a special person to get permission to be have remains sent to the Moon. Charlie described the process they went through with Gene Shoemaker and why they did it the way they did it because they wanted to set a commercial space precedent for the future. Among his closing comments, he said space is hard and take action to follow your dreams.

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Jay Wittner, Ron Jones, Sunday, 10-18-15 October 19, 2015

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Jay Wittner, Ron Jones, Sunday, 10-18-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2567-BWB-2015-10-18.mp3

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Guests: Jay Wittner, Ron Jones. Topics: The Integrated Space Plan which is a real and detailed timeline of our future in space for the next 100 years. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed both Jay Wittner and Ron Jones to the program to discuss the Integrated Space Plan (ISP), “a real and detailed timeline of our future in space for the next 100 years. Vehicles, Stations, Settlements, Moon, Mars, Asteroids.” You can see the ISP at https://integratedspaceanalytics.com/cms/plan and also their previously successful Kickstarter site, www.kickstarter.com/projects/486671231/integrated-space-plan-envisioning-humanitys-future. Wired Magazine did an excellent article on the plan which you can download and read at www.wired.com/2015/08/wildly-detailed-100-year-plan-getting-humans-mars.. Discovery also did a nice article on the ISP dated Oct. 16, 2015 which you can read and download @ http://news.discovery.com/space/private-spaceflight/isp-the-ultimate-plan-to-launch-humanity-to-the-stars-151016.htm. During the first segment, Ron provided us with the history of the ISP which goes back several decades. He explained its purpose and how it has changed and evolved over time. In fact, later in the show I asked our guests if the time had finally come for the ISP to come into its own given the developments and progress in space development. You will certainly want to hear this discussion which comes much later in the show. The first segment is mostly devoted to describing the ISP and responding to basic listener questions about it as it was new to most listeners. I also urge you to look at it on the web using the above links so you can be come familiar with the plan and its blocks. Remember, it is a broad enabling approach that includes many different paths to accomplish space development, exploration and a spacefaring economy/society. It is not about a specific program or project as we are used to discussing on The Space Show. Specific plans and projects can nicely fit in the appropriate blocks on the ISP as the ISP is a collection of logical and plausible multiple paths to space development without saying this or that specific plan is THE plan we must follow. Toward the end of the first segment, John in Freemont, CA asked about the Shackleton Energy plan as was recently discussed on The Space Show. This was a good example for our guests to show how the ISP could nicely accommodate the Shackleton plan but that the ISP was actually much broader and more inclusive than just the three part Shackleton plan discussed on The Space Show. As you will hear, there is no conflict between the two.

In the second segment, Jay was asked how people could get a poster copy of the ISP. Jay and Ron told listeners how to order a poster copy (the rolled version in a tube is the best way to get it). We also talked about support for the ISP by many from within all segments of the space industry. Later, much was said about outreach for the private sector and also the student population, especially through SEDS. Jay and Ron invited listener participation and feedback and they gave out their respective email addresses or told listeners how to find their addresses on their website, www.thespaceplan.com.   We talked about disruptive technologies and how they were represented on the ISP. GPS was used as an example since I referenced Uber from our Friday Space Show program. As part of our disruptive discussion, our guests talked about SpaceX, the Falcon Heavy, reusability, and more. A listener asked about cislunar development and how that was represented on the ISP. Frequent Space Show guest Gerald Driggers called in with many interesting comments so make sure you listen to his discussion. His call was followed by John from Ft. Worth asking about actual markets & customers for the businesses.  Our guests talked about the key to customers would be lowering the cost to orbit, then they mentioned space tourism and specific payloads. As our program was ending, both guests offered closing comments and take away statements.   Both made a final appeal for listener participation and feedback as the ISP is a continuingly evolving plan.

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