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Rick Boozer, Monday, 1-27-14 January 28, 2014

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Rick Boozer, Monday, 1-27-14

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2174-BWB-2014-01-27.mp3

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Guest:  Rick Boozer.    Topics:  SLS, NASA, Commercial Space, Space Development Steering Committee.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed back Rick Boozer to continue discussing his premise that congressional mismanagement as adversely impacted NASA and that money going to SLS is money better spent elsewhere.  During the first segment of this 1 hour 45 minute program, Mr. Boozer reintroduced his book to us (he was a guest on TSS regarding his book on August 12, 2013), talking to us about adverse congressional management of NASA the why he believe SLS is damaging to NASA.  Mr. Boozer is very effective in sating his case, with lots of passion.  He references earlier proposals by ULA and SpaceX to build larger heavy lift rockets than the full size SLS for a fraction of the SLS cost but those proposals were dismissed, paving the way for SLS.  We also talked about private sector efforts in making rockets rather than the government doing it, also COTS and Commercial Crew.  At times I countered Rick’s perspective with a few of the better known pro-SLS arguments such as SLS is a place holder for key parts of the aerospace workforce.  Don’t miss what Rick had to say about this idea.

In the second segment, Doug called in with SLS questions based on the assumption that SLS does fly.  Our guest talked about a heavy lifter not needed for the Moon but most likely needed for human spaceflight to Mars.  Another listener asked Rick if he had a Plan B if SLS continued to be funded.  Rick said the Plan B is today’s status quo.  During both segments of this program, our guest mentioned SLS & competing private heavy lift vehicle studies carried out by Dr. Alan Wilhite of Georgia Tech.  Rick provided me with several URLs to this information.  Check out this information at www.newspacewatch.com/docs/IAC-12.D3.2.3.x15379-NASAStudy.pdf & http://spirit.as.utexas.edu/~fiso/telecon/Wilhite_2-13-13/Wilhite_2-13-13.pdf.  Also, Rick suggested a debate on the SLS topic.  I would be willing to do a Space Show debate with Rick opposing SLS.  If you have a suggestion for someone to represent support for SLS, please let know.  Toward the end of the program, we asked Rick about his future book plans and he talked about a crowd funding program regarding the preservation of valuable astronomical data.  Also, visit Rick’s own blog, http://astromaven.blogspot.com.

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Bas Lansdorp of Mars One, Friday, 5-10-13 May 11, 2013

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Bas Lansdorp of Mars One, Friday, 5-10-13

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2006-BWB-2013-05-10.mp3

Guest:  Bas Lansdorp of Mars One.  Topics:  The Mars One mission, a comprehensive discussion.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.  We welcomed back Bas Lansdorp, CEO of the Mars One project located in Holland.  For more information, visit their website www.mars-one.com.

During the first segment of this 94 minute program, Bas took us through the basics of the Mars One concept and mission.  I asked him for clarification as to their company structure given some of the newsletters from last year regarding converting from a for profit to a nonprofit organization.  During the discussion, Bas fielded numerous email listener questions addressing a long list of issues relevant to the Mars One mission.  For example, we talked about why a one way mission, the flight time and launch windows for Mars, radiation, the differences with ISS and Mir crews in LEO as compared to going through the Van Allen Belts and entering deep space with cosmic radiation and possible solar flares.  Bas talked about using 25-40 CM of water shielding.  We talked about the psychological/emotional health of the crew, growing food on Mars, livestock, and a Martian greenhouse.  Resupply from Earth came up & we inquired about the need for Earth resupply as compared to being Martian self-sufficient, plus other life support issues.  Mars One plans on sending cargo missions and supplies to Mars well in advance of the first human mission so Earth resupply may not be what is needed.  Another listener asked Bas about the planetary protection rules and if Mars One was up on them. Bas said yes and appears to be supportive of planetary protection efforts & regulations.

In our second segment, I asked him about his PR given that Mars One gets so much positive PR.  Crew selection questions came in & Bas said the most important qualification for the crew would be to get along in groups.  They plan on teaching the crews all the needed skills so they do not have to select engineers, doctors, etc.  He said that when they hire the first crew, it will undergo the comprehensive training for the mission over 7 years.  Bas got questions about the costs and using a reality TV model for funding purposes.  Bas corrected the listener as their model is the Olympics, not a reality TV show.  Another listener wanted to know about the possibility of their being denied an FAA launch license.  Still another set of questions came in about a Mars One failure leaving an unsupported colony on Mars.  Bas had much to say about this issue so don’t miss his comments.  We also talked about nations implementing the Astronaut Rescue Treaty if Mars One went under & there was no other company in its place.  More was said about the applicants, about 80,000 so far.  He told us most want to go to do something useful to improve humanity and the world. Going because you are unhappy on Earth or something like that will not get you accepted as a Mars One crew member.  Bas said he would be at two upcoming California events for those wanting to meet him, the Space Tech Conference in Los Angeles (www.spacetechexpo.com/conference-program-2013) and ISDC at the end of May in San Diego (http://isdc.nss.org/2013).

If  you have comments/questions for Bas Lansdorp, please post them on The Space Show blog.  You can email Bas through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson, Friday, 3-8-13 March 9, 2013

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Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson, Friday, 3-8-13

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1968-BWB-2013-03-08.mp3

Guest:  Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson.  Topics:  Dr. Tyson’s book, “Space Chronicles: Facing The Ultimate Frontier,” delusional thinking, space exploration, space economic power.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed backed Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson to this 60 minute discussion about the new release of the paperback version of his current book, “Space Chronicles: Facing The Ultimate Frontier.”  If you buy the book with this Amazon link, Amazon will make a contribution to The Space Show/OGLF:  http://www.amazon.com/Space-Chronicles-Facing-Ultimate-Frontier/dp/0393343626/ref=onegiantlea20.  The book is a collection of all of Dr. Tyson’s thoughts about the past, present, and future in space.  It consists of essays, tweets, op-eds and more, plus an appendix with important documents such as the original agreement creating NASA in the late 1950s.  Neil said that some of the points he made in the book were that space was expensive and that we do things in space for one of two reasons: 1.  As a result of military threat or war; 2: In support of economic growth of the country.  He then supported his argument with historical facts, making the point that we do not explore for the sake of exploring, that exploration is not in our DNA, that we do not go into space to inspire future generations of kids, and then he even mentioned that the famous JFK Rice University speech which he said was a lie in that weeks before in a speech before Congress, President Kennedy put forth the real reason we were going to the Moon which was to show the world a path of freedom over tyranny.  Dr. Tyson documents this on p. 192 of his book by saying that “Kennedy did adopt a military posture in his speech to Congress.”  Neil stressed this point during our discussion in support of the above reasons for developing.  More about this speech can be found at www.history.com/this-day-in-history/jfk-asks-congress-to-support-the-space-program.  The actual text of the speech can be seen at www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/xzw1gaeeTES6khED14P1Iw.aspx.  Dr. Tyson also talked about the problem of delusional thinking among space enthusiasts, a theme we went back to several times during our discussion.  Another point he made was about the importance of innovation and having a culture of innovation with space goals supporting the economic growth of an innovative nation.  Kelly asked a question about the best way to increase NASAs budget in bipartisan support of space for STEM, inspiration, spin-offs, etc.  Our guest said all of the reasons cited in Kelly’s question were irrelevant.  Don’t miss what he said.  We also talked about the need for infrastructure and Neil said that governments have to pave the way for the frontier and the private companies follow and economically develop it.  He said the commercial companies do not and will not be able to open the space frontier with the needed infrastructure.  I then depicted government as sort of an advance man in space with the privates being able to capitalize that infrastructure development for profit & national wealth. A listener asked about China, a space race, and a possible space war.  Dr. Tyson also said that we should have launch vehicles that go everywhere for research and innovative reasons and we needed to shift our culture to seeing space as a long term national investment for creating wealth for the nation, far beyond the term of our elected officials.  He talked about SpaceX and the need for a rich and fertile collaboration between government and the commercial companies regarding space.  I asked our guest about testifying before Congress. You will want to hear what he had to say about that based on his experiences in do so.  We talked about space and grass roots movements. He talked about GDP economic growth during the Apollo period and then what happened each decade after that through the current period.  Jim sent in a question pointing out possible contradictions in his comments & suggested fuel depots as a way to minimize the quantity of rockets and launches. Dr Tyson said he was hardware agnostic and that in developing infrastructure and paving the way for the privates in space, fuel depots might very well be part of infrastructure but that government would be doing them, especially early on.  Later, Dr. Tyson talked about our system being a political system and that it was not going to change.  He used this as one of the examples of delusional thinking given many enthusiasts who don’t accept this reality & believe they can bypass or work around the political nature of our government and systems.  Near the end of our discussion, he was asked about the Inspire Mars mission which he said was probably a stunt but that it might serve the purpose of showing the government that lots of people are interested in an HSF to Mars.  Another listener wanted to know if the Inspire Mars mission turned out bad, would it derail human spaceflight.  He did not think it would do that given other space accidents with the loss of crew.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog and I will call them to the attention of our guest.

Dave Reneke, Tuesday, 11-29-11 November 30, 2011

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Dave Reneke, Tuesday, 11-29-11

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1663-BWB-2011-11-29.mp3

Guest: Dave Reneke.  Topics:  Space in Australia, a different view of U.S. space policy, astronomy, SETI.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at

https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign.  We welcomed Dave Reneke to the program to discuss all space issues from the Australian perspective.  Find out more about Dave, his space and astronomy work, plus sign up for his free newsletter at www.davidreneke.com.  Starting out, I asked our guest about the Perth radio telescope used by ESA that seems to be the only location making some contact with the Russian Phobos-Grunt mission.  After talking about Perth and its geography, our guest mentioned the competition for the Square Kilometer Array Telescope (SKA) competition which has been narrowed down to the Australian location or a location in S. Africa.  Dave mentioned the SKA telescope and its capabilities throughout our discussion.  As we learned, the Perth area is actually quite quiet regarding radio noise and a good location for the radio telescope array.  Dave received email questions about the space awareness level of the average Australian as well as for his students.  Having been to the U.S. several times, our guest said that there was not much difference between Australians and Americans when it comes to space awareness and knowledge.  We also talked about commercial space, space tourism, and our current American space policy.  Josh asked about the difference in the night sky from the southern hemisphere view as compared to what most of us see here in the northern hemisphere.  Dave gave us some good comparison notes which I think you will find interesting, especially about the Southern Cross, some of the planets, the Big Dipper, Orion (the Swordsman in Australia), and even the Milky Way.  We talked about national television coverage in Australia of the recent MSL launch, and then some more about issues facing the U.S. space policy of today.  In our second segment, Dave got a listener question about Australian concern and coverage for space debris falling to Earth and he reminded us about Skylab coming down in Australia and told us some interesting stories about it.  I asked him about the Air Force UFO article on his website.  He had much to say about it and his previous work as a UFO investigator.  We then switched to talking about deep space, Pioneer 10, and SETI searches.  We mentioned the potential water planet discovery, Gliese 586g, and much more.  Dave was asked when the effects of our sun cease and a deep space mission starts having effects from a different solar system or from being in deep space.  Dave talked about a region of turbulence hitting Pioneer 10 and suggested deep space really starts when our solar system effects end. He referenced the heliosheath. We also talked about the Voyager Interstellar Mission.  Dave told us a few stories about Apollo 11 that he learned from his day long meeting with Buzz.  He concluded with a long term hundred year vision suggesting that eventually there will be travel beyond the speed of light with routine space travel.  Post your comments/questions on the blog URL above. Dave can be contacted through the Contacts page on his website.