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The John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 9-23-15 September 24, 2015

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The John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 9-23-15

Special Guest:  Dr. Robert Zubrin

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Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. Robert Zubrin, Dr. David Livingston. Topics: NASA’s Road to Mars plans. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program. Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm). For those of you listening to archives on live365.com & rating the programs, please email me the reasons for your rating. This will definitely help improve Space Show programming. Thank you. Please note that audio and transition issues are a result of copying the John Batchelor broadcast & are not within my control as they originate in the Batchelor studio.

 

John Batchelor and I welcomed Dr. Robert (Bob) Zubrin to the program to discuss the NASA Road to Mars per the Evolvable Mars Campaign: Status Update as published Sept. 22, 2015 by NASA Spaceflight.com at www.nasaspaceflight.com/2015/09/sls-manifest-phobos-mars-2039. John and I asked Bob about parts of the plan including 41 SLS launches, cislunar development missions, a mission to Phobos and then finally in 2039 a Mars surface landing. Bob was highly critical of all stages of the plan. He also said it was the subject of a big debate at the recent Mars Society Conference. You can see the debate Dr. Zubrin referenced at www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo4-ros2yEk&list=PLn0lnGc1SaimPHpRoH0XlwiCih-jYjC7F&index=11. Bob called the NASA plan absurd, was highly critical of plans to go to Phobos saying the science was at Mars, not on Phobos, plus he described orbital challenges and difficulties created by going to Phobos. Several times he said the plan was nothing more than a way to spend money on NASA projects. Near the end of the segment I asked Bob about the plan being sustainable and also leading to the settlement of Mars. You can imagine his response to my questions. In summary, he said a humans to Mars mission needs to be done from start to finish within the two terms of a president, not spread out over 25 years as is the case with the NASA Road to Mars program.

 

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Dr. Robert Zubrin, Tuesday, 6-2-15 June 3, 2015

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Dr. Robert Zubrin, Tuesday, 6-2-15

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Guest:  Dr. Robert (Bob) Zubrin.  Topics:  Mars Society Convention 2015, Convention debate topics, HSF to Mars issues & concerns.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Dr. Robert (Bob) Zubrin to discuss the upcoming Mars Society Convention in Washington, DC from August 13-16, 2015 (see www.marssociety.org/a/marssociety.org/www/conventions/18th-annual-international-mars-society-convention). During our 1 hour 45 minute program without a break, Dr. Zubrin not only told us about the upcoming Mars Society Convention for 2015, but talked about Human Spaceflight (HSF) to Mars by addressing many specific issues, concerns, and topics.  Starting off with the Convention, it is August 13-16, 2015 at the Catholic University of America in Washington, DC.  Special hotel prices are available at the Phoenix Park Hotel (see www.marssociety.org/conventions/18th-annual-international-mars-society-convention/hotel-and-transportation for reservation details).  Bob told us about the keynote speakers but also the special format this year for debates. Several topics will be debated including Moon vs. Mars, Mars One feasibility with the MIT team and Bas from Mars One, how best to achieve commercial space plus other topics.  Bob then started getting questions from listeners & myself on a wide variety of Mars HSF mission topics.  To start with, I asked Bob to comment on what several recent Space Show guests have said about our not being ready for HSF to Mars for a variety of reasons including radiation, other human factors, the costs, and the trip risk which would turn it into a survival mission and nothing more.  Before Bob responded to my specific question, he commented on the recent radiation paper, “How a trip to Mars would mess with your brain.”  Bob was very critical of this paper and spent time going through it and showing where he believed it to be bogus.  You can read Bob’s critique at www.marssociety.org/home/press/announcements/invalidclaimsmadeforwhathappenstoyourbrainonthewaytomarspublication.  Bob spent a good amount of time debunking the original article so don’t miss his comments.  Before moving on, I again asked Bob to respond specifically to what my guests had said as none of them mentioned the paper in question.  We had an interesting discussion on risk taking and the role of government as part of our discussion.  John in Florida called to ask about the concept of a nuclear explosion on Mars per Space Show guest Dr. John Brandenberg.  This led to questions about shortages of PU238, space policy & political leadership. Doug had questions about an Earth Return Mission and later he eventually called in to get a more precise answer to what he was asking.  We talked about one way missions, how best to explore Mars, and the responsible way to tackle the eventual settlement on Mars.  Emmet from NY called in to ask about Elon Musk Mars and NASA plans and why they seem to ignore going for artificial gravity.  Again, Bob had much to say about this issue which he said was different for Musk and NASA.  He felt Musk would address it as the challenge became more real for him.  As far as NASA goes, he said it was criminal to have avoided the issue for decades.  Don’t miss his comments.  Jackie emailed in a question about character in the book “The Martian,” wanting to know if crew were stranded on Mars could they actually do some of the things the character in the book did to survive.  You might be surprised by Bob’s answer.  Matt in Germany asked a question about Mars via the Moon, BJohn asked about the use of a cycler for Mars transportation & Kirk called to talk about an article he had read about fossil ice at Valles Marineris.  Kirk will post a comment about this on the blog after the show is archived.  Next up was the subject of terraforming Mars. Bob had much to say about this plus he offered a possible terraforming timeline. Doug then wanted to know if Bob was referring to paraterraforming when he mentioned the use of Domes on the Martian surface but Bob said no.  Tim called to talk about the radiation paper discussed earlier and mentioned a second experiment saying that antioxidants negated the radiation effects. Bob was not familiar with the second study but summarized his comments about the paper.

BJohn emailed in about rocket advances from the Saturn V for a Mars mission, we talked about what it would mean to use a Falcon Heavy for Mars missions, then Marshall called to inquire about sources of power on Mars, particularly nuclear and getting a large enough nuclear reactor to Mars.  Marshall and Bob talked about a Topaz like reactor.  Another question came up about using the Martian moons for the early human missions rather than Mars.  Bob explained why in his mind this was not a good idea.  He then compared the radiation dosage of long term ISS usage for ISS astronauts to the transit time and radiation dosage for a Martian crew.  Don’t miss what Bob had to say about this.  In Bob’s concluding comments, we focused on the upcoming convention but also on the importance NASA and a HSF mission to Mars in the context of the world today.  This is an important part of our program so don’t miss it.  In concluding, Bob said “It is time again for NASA to astound the world to show what free men can do.”  You will likely hear me use Bob’s closing statement on many future Space Show programs.

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Andy Weir, Monday, 11-10-14 November 11, 2014

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Andy Weir, Monday, 11-10-14

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Guest:  Andy Weir.  Topics:  We engaged author Andy Weir in a thorough discussion of his best selling book, “The Martian” along with the essential engineering & needed technology for survival.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed best selling author Andy Weir to the program to discuss his book “The Martian.”  For more information, visit his websites, http://www.andyweirauthor.com and http://www.galactanet.com.   During the first segment of our 100 minute show, Andy started out by telling us how he came up with the story idea, & his three years spent in writing the book.  I asked if he used consultants, NASA, or other aerospace experts.  He said no & that most of the feedback and help came through suggestions from people who read the chapters he put up on his website.  Andy also did his own research, math work, physics, and engineering analysis.  He talked about a few errors that were pointed out to him & indicated that the most challenging work were the times and orbits regarding Mars and the missions described in the book. During the show, Andy got lots of email questions and phone calls regarding certain story lines and sections of the book.  He was also asked about life on Mars but that issue was not relevant to his story.  He did get questions about the human waste recycling carried out on Mars & why he chose Mars and not the Moon or another destination.  Sandra asked him about the private space company plans to visit and/or settle Mars given how hard it was for Andy’s character, Watney, to survive.  Andy had very interesting comments on this question including the Elon Musk Mars plans and then Mars One.  Human factors were brought up including radiation, microgravity, vision problems, and more.  Andy did address these issues in the book so listen to his reply to this line of questioning.  As the segment ended, we talked about using Phobos and Deneb for Martian navigation along with Watney’s trek to get to Pathfinder to use its parts for communication.  NASA came up several times in the segment as readers get a pretty good “view” of NASA problem solving, information, data, and PR control, plus amazing creativity.

In the second segment, we had lots of listener emails and phone calls.  Andy was asked what science fiction had influenced him, then he got an interesting email from Andrew in Tucson who had actually worked on the Pathfinder hardware.  Andrew said Andy was spot on accurate!  Dr. Doug called on many topics including using the Hohmann Transfer Orbit which Andy did not use as he designed Hermes, the big spaceship, to work with constant acceleration using ion propulsion.  The Aldrin Cycler was also mentioned.  Listeners mentioned the new movie Interstellar and made some comparisons if they had read “The Martian” and seen the move.  In both segments, we talked about “The Martian” being made into a film for release in a year.  Andy said so far the scriptfollowed the book but he did say he has no editorial input to the movie.  We got a call from Curt in Taiwan who wished there was a PG version of the book given he wants his kids to read it and some of the language is course.  Sara emailed us from Denver asking if Andy had considered making the hero character Watney a woman instead of a man.  Tim was the last caller & he wanted to know if the hard science & engineering would be in the movie.  During this final segment, Andy was asked about how he got to Mars without a transfer orbit.  He suggested we view his animated video on this at http://www.galactanet.com/martian/hermes.mp4.  In addition, he referred us to his Google talk.  You can easily find it by searching for “Andy Weir Google Talk.”

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  You can reach Andy through his websites or me.

 

Dr. Robert Zubrin, Thursday, 3-13-14 March 14, 2014

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Dr. Robert Zubrin, Thursday, 3-13-14

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Guest:  Dr. Robert (Bob) Zubrin.  Topics:  Everything Mars, Mars Society Arctic 365 and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Zubrin back to the show for this 90 minute discussion about everything Mars and the Mars Society.  Dr. Zubrin opened up by telling us about the Mars Artic 365 program (http://ma365.marssociety.org) and their fund raising efforts through Indiegogo and other programs (www.indiegogo.com/projects/ma365-a-one-year-mars-simulation-in-the-canadian-arctic).  Throughout the entire program, Dr. Zubrin received questions/comments about Arctic 365.  He was asked about telepresence and having the sim in a more populated place than the arctic.  Bob dismissed telepresence as not being nearly as effective as having humans work “on Mars” & he stressed the importance of simulating a real Mars working mission.  Bob went over the logistics and scheduling for this first crew for Arctic 365, plus remaining opportunities and ways for people to participate in the program as the crew selection process is closed.  We talked about the costs and crew skill sets, plus Mars Society fund raising efforts for this program.  Jack emailed about radiation on Mars and as before, Bob suggested it was not as big a risk as many claim.  He was also asked about teaming up with Mars One on Arctic 365 program.  Bob said he was open to doing things with Mars One and suggested Arctic 365 would be a perfect training program those who train the Mars One crews.  Later, Bob was asked about doing a completely private mission to Mars.  Bob used this as a spring board to describing the kind of policy & political leadership in government and NASA, both of which he said absent for now.  He even proposed some broad based financing suggestions.  Doug called wanting to know his thoughts on Phobos & Deimos.  Bob used this as an opportunity to support a flyby mission. He was not that supportive of visiting the Marian moons.  Don’t miss his explanation for his position.  As the segment was ending, I asked him about life on Mars.  Bob thinks there probably is life on Mars, don’t miss what he had to say about this.

In the second segment, Steve asked Bob about the Delta V needed for going to the Moon as compared to Mars.  He talked about the Moon being easier than Mars.  Again, don’t miss all of Bob’s response to Steve’s question/comment.  NASA and political leadership were more fully discussed in this segment, then he was asked about the SLS. Here, Bob had a lot to say. While critical of SLS, he would not cancel it.  Again, don’t miss his comments on this topic.  He talked about SpaceX & Falcon 9, heavy lift in general, crew size on a Mars mission, and finally possible threats from the Chinese space program.  Toward the end he talked about electric propulsion for slow cargo missions, then I asked him for his thoughts on the Mars cycler system.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog.  You can email Dr. Zubrin through me.

 

John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 11-27-13 November 28, 2013

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John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 11-27-13

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Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. Robert Zubrin.  Topics:  Manned Mars missions with Russian participation.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce.  This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com.  Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm).

During our 11 minute plus discussion, John and Dr. Robert Zubrin discussed manned missions to Mars with Russian participation.  Unfortunately, I was unable to participate due to a lousy cell phone connection as I was at a friend’s house for a party.   During the segment, Dr. Zubrin made several important points given he had just returned from Russia.  He said he found lots of people willing to do a joint Mars human mission with us but also many want to turn the clock back to Cold War days.  He had much to say about Putin and why a manned Mars mission would go a long way toward neutralizing the dark forces within Russia, including Putin.  Bob talked about advancing humanity and the investment in human capital as the return we would all benefit from in a human Mars mission.  Dr. Zubrin’s motivation for the joint Russian -US manned Mars mission seemed right on the target to me and those at the party listening to the segment on one of Batchelor’s streaming internet stations.

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Dr. Taylor Dark, Tuesday, 11-5-13 November 6, 2013

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Dr. Taylor Dark, Tuesday, 11-5-13

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Guest:  Dr. Taylor Dark.   Topics:  Space advocacy per his chapter “Reclaiming The Future: Space Advocacy And The Idea Of Progress.”  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Dr. Taylor Dark to the program to discuss his chapter on space advocacy, “Reclaiming The Future: Space Advocacy And The Idea Of Progress.” Dr. Dark’s chapter appeared in a NASA book around 2007, The Societal Impact of Spaceflight.  The .pdf version is a free download at http://history.nasa.gov/sp4801-part1.pdf.  You can read Dr. Dark’s chapter at www.taylordark.com/NASA%20Chapter.pdf.  For more information about our guest, please visit his website, www.taylordark.com. I urge you to read Dr. Dark’s chapter before listening to this program.  During the first segment of our 2 hour 1 minute discussion, Dr. Dark told us about his space advocacy background given that he started the first high school L5 organization when he was around 14 years old.  From there, we talked about aspects of space advocacy and specific personalities such as Dr. Zubrin and Taylor’s early fascination with O’Neill colonies.  He then described his shift to a different view of advocacy during his undergraduate college days.  Taylor went into detail about advocacy being connected to the idea of progress for humanity and listed three major space advocacy claims: (1) No limits on growth or human capacity; (2) All good things go together meaning elements of progress are linked together & are reinforcing; (3) Innate Directionality meaning progress is always probable.  He discussed these claims on air but he goes into them in detail in his chapter.  The utopian or messianic view of some advocates was discussed.  Dr. Dark also pointed out that space advocacy was not the only outlet for science, progress for humanity, etc.  Next, he talked about the frontier idea which he said was a weak argument.  He cited many national experiences that had had no frontier and have done well with their space program.  A listener asked our guest for his three top space arguments which were space exploration for more understanding of the universe, planetary defense of potential NEO hits, & commercial activity that was really profitable.  John called in to talk about the need for low cost space access and RLVs which would in turn cause space advocates to engage in lots of potentially profitable ventures. 

In our second segment, Doug called to talk about the probable costs of the O’Neill vision including the lunar base, SSP, & the habitat.  He suggested space tourism was a potential scalable profitable venture and he talked about space and lunar settlement.  Doug also talked about propellant in Earth orbit and satellites from LEO to GEO.  I spoke with Doug about project financing and how commercial or public sector project viability is analyzed which was different from what Doug talked about.  Taylor suggested that advocates don’t typically engage in something like project financing, instead opting for solutions that fit their advocacy agenda.  Taylor talked about the challenges of many advocacy claims including HE3 and fusion and the need for large space settlements.  As we were ending the discussion, Taylor was asked about the possible impact of microbial life being discovered, past or present, or ET.  We also talked about advocacy for inspiration & education and the impact of the Chinese program on advocacy and civil/commercial space. 

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Dr. Haym Benaroya, Tuesday, 8-13-13 August 14, 2013

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Dr. Haym Benaroya, Tuesday, 8-13-13

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Guest:  Dr. Haym Benaroya.  Topics:  Lunar data analysis, Return to the Moon, space policy & more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Dr. Haym Benaroya, mechanical and aerospace engineer at Rutgers University, back to the show to discuss lunar thermal and seismic analysis, space policy, human spaceflight, Mars, and more.  Our intention was to do a one hour program but due to incoming listener phone calls, this program lasted for 1 hour 39 minutes without a break!  In addition, the discussion at times with callers was quite heated, very passionate and ripe with disagreement, especially between callers and myself.  Frankly, there were times I just had enough of the gloom and doom and the la la land fantasy stuff so I blasted back on what the callers more than the guest were saying.  We started the program with an update from Dr. Benaroya on thermal and seismic analysis of lunar data collected from sensors left on the Moon by the Apollo missions.  The data has been run through new models for up to date processing.  As it turns out, for seismic activity, an igloo like structure which Dr. Benaroya described is probably the best for the habitat. Also, he said only flimsy items such as an antenna would like be risky structures due to lunar seismic activity.  I asked him to compare lunar seismic activity to the seismic activity of California and Japan.  We have it much worse here on Earth!  We talked about radiation issues & Haym suggested about 10 feet of regolith on the top of the hab would probably be OK other than for a solar event.  He also said much more data was needed for actual lunar structural engineering.  I asked him what the first lunar settlers would do during their day and this took us to HSF to Mars issues, microgravity concerns, and the Moon as a stepping stone to Mars.  John Hunt was the first of the callers, focusing on policy with the politicians.  Haym talked 3D printing with him, then I asked John if the program he was describing could be done in 10 years.  After forcing him to provide us with a yes no answer, he said no. Haym said the same but both agreed technology was not the problem, leadership was the problem.  We talked the need for profits for private ventures and opened up public/private partnerships for discussion on the show.  I asked both how to start implementing their plans & that was the opening salvo of the fireworks that unfolded for the rest of the show.  Doug called next and talked about his ideas for what astronauts on the Moon would do and his lunar development ideas.  I then challenged both caller and guest to outline their steps for making their happen.  I thought their implementation plans were severely lacking and opened up on each of them but more so on Doug for the balance of his call.  Haym said the first step was to rebuild U.S. launch capabilities. Doug had a different first step & talked about government funding as in a private/public partnership similar to what SpaceX has with NASA for Falcon.  I asked Dough how he intended to sell the importance & value of the program he suggested to those controlling policy and funding.  See what you think of this discussion & post your comments on our blog.  After Doug cleared the line, Charles Pooley called in & at one time I said he was the longest playing broken record in Space Show history! I told him he was full of doom and gloom and other people see things differently and I did not want is view of things to be right or prevail, suggesting others see things differently than he does. Again, your comments are welcome.  Near the end, I simply was rejecting the “dismal situation” facing our space program. While Haym agreed that things were not good today, he talked about how he inspires and works with his students so they can create a positive space environment during their careers and for our future.  Just before the show ended, Tim called at the last minute and I promised to send him a Timex given his rotten sense of timing show after show. With Tim, we talked propulsion, Zubrin’s thoughts on going to the Moon, & the two private Mars missions on the drawing board.  In his concluding remarks, Haym explained why he was not supportive of either Inspiration Mars or Mars One.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog. Haym can be emailed through me or his Rutgers website.

 

Dr. Robert Zubrin, Tuesday, 8-6-13 August 7, 2013

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Dr. Robert Zubrin, Tuesday, 8-6-13

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 Guest:  Dr. Robert (Bob) Zubrin.  Topics:  The 16 Annual Mars Society Convention, radiation, HSF to Mars, Mars One, Inspiration Mars.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  PLEASE NOTE THAT IF YOU ARE ATTENDING THE CONFERENCE AND WOULD LIKE TO BE A ROVING REPORTER FOR THE SPACE SHOW WITH CELL PHONE REPORTS, PLEASE EMAIL ME.

We welcomed Dr. Robert (Bob) Zubrin back to the program to discuss the upcoming Mars Society 16th Annual Conference, Mars human spaceflight, Inspiration Mars, Curiosity, RAD, radiation levels, Mars One and much more.  For more information about the conference, visit http://www.marssociety.org/conventions/2013.  For information about The Mars Society, visit http://www.marssociety.org/home.  During our one hour discussion with Dr. Zubrin, we started our talking about the main conference speakers including Dennis Tito and Dr. Steven Squyres, among others.  In talking about Dennis Tito coming to the conference, we spent time discussing the Tito Inspiration Mars mission.  Bob had much to say about this mission, the likelihood of mission success, radiation issues, equipment and life support issues, and more.  In talking about radiation and the Curiosity RAD findings, Bob had much to say about NASA and their willingness to do a Mars HSF mission.  We took several listener emails and a call about radiation & even the use of nuclear propulsion to shorten the transit time for less radiation exposure for the crew.  Bob suggested that if we had nuclear propulsion, he would not increase the transit time (listen to his reason why which has to do with orbits & a free return to Earth), but he would increase the payload to take additional spare parts & life support equipment as he said equipment failures were a major risk factor on such a mission.  Bob talked some more about successes in the private sector, including SpaceX. He was also asked if SLS was necessary and he said he believed in more than one source for a launch vehicle and he supports heavy lift.  He also talked about the importance of government infrastructure and launch services for the future.  Don’t miss this discussion.  Later in the segment, Bob talked about the Mars Society 365 Mission (see http://ma365.marssociety.org).  Bob described this mission, why it is so important & why we should support it.  Jane emailed a question about Bob’s National Review article we mentioned, “Remembering Ploesti,” from August 3 (http://nationalreview.com/node/355074/print) and after extrapolating to today, wondered if humanity was ready for human spaceflight to Mars.  Bob provided us with an exceptional response to Jane’s question and comment so please listen and take note of what he said. I believe it to be very important.  As the program was ending, Ben wanted Bob to clarify his position on choosing either the Moon or Mars.  Don’t miss this response.  Bob left us with concluding comments to do something and support something.

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Dr. Jeff Foust, Monday, 8-5-13 August 6, 2013

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Dr. Jeff Foust, Monday, 8-5-13

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2062-BWB-2013-08-05.mp3

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Guest:  Dr. Jeff Foust.  Topics:  Space news, space policy, NewSpace, budgets, Mars, & you name it! It’s all here today.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed back Dr. Jeff Foust for this comprehensive space policy, news, and budget discussion.  During the first segment of this1 hour 49 minute show, Jeff brought us up to date with Armadillo Aerospace and the decision by John Carmack to put the company into “hibernation.”  Jeff’s report was comprehensive and we hope that John is able to raise additional capital to resume his work.  Our next topic focused on the partisan budget fight regarding the 2013 NASA Authorization.  Jeff reported on this in the current issue of The Space Review (see www.thespacereview.com/article/2342/1).  Again, this was a very comprehensive discussion on the NASA 2013 Authorization and Appropriation bills, and the partisanship in congress. Among listener questions were those wanting to know if NASA was being signaled out for special budgetary treatment or getting the same treatment as other parts/branches of the government.  You don’t want to miss this discussion.  Also discussed was the potential impact of NASA and civil space issues on commercial space and the NewSpace industry.  Jeff then received some questions about the NewSpace 2013 Conference which he attended.  Before going to break, I asked Jeff to go over the criteria for submitting an article to The Space Review.  He suggested contacting him with your idea at jeff@thespacereview.com, plus he went over the main article requirements.

In the second segment, Dr. Foust was asked about SLS, then we talked about crowd funding.  A listener asked him if there was any research showing how many crowd funding success stories actually used the money raised as intended in their offer.  Neither Jeff nor I had that information but we would welcome it if any of you know those stats. Ron emailed us about the potential economic boom from NewSpace & commercial space, a possible Netscape moment, and would such an economic boom be noticed & well received by congress.  Our guest had much to say about the Netscape Moment theory for NewSpace which led to a discussion on how government can both enable and hinder space development.  We then discussed Curiosity one year after landing on Mars (see his Space Review article on this at www.thespacereview.com/article/2344/1).  From here, we talked about HSF and Mars, specifically Mars One and Inspiration Mars.  Jeff told us about attending the recently held Mars One event at GWU last week, plus he had much to say about the proposed mission.  We talked about the idea of going to Mars rather than the first to the Moon, then to Mars.  As the program was ending, Jeff mentioned the upcoming DC-X 20th anniversary celebration in New Mexico (www.dc-xspacequest.org).

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John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 3-6-13 March 6, 2013

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John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 3-6-13

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1965-BWB-2013-03-06.mp3

Guests:  John Batchelor, Dr. Robert Zubrin, Dr. David Livingston:  Topics: Inspiration Mars, human spaceflight to Mars.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce.  This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com.

During our 11 minute plus discussion with Dr. Zubrin, we talked about the Inspiration Mars proposed human spaceflight mission and the previous Athena Project Bob proposed in the mid-1990’s.  Bob talked about the orbital dynamics, cosmic radiation, microgravity, possible NASA mission support, and more.  Bob also spoke about the availability of hardware for the Inspiration Mars mission but the need for a new thermal protection system.

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