Dennis Wingo, Tuesday, 8-18-15 August 19, 2015Posted by The Space Show in Uncategorized.
Tags: "Secular Stagnation and Space: A Way Beyond Our Current Economic Plateau, BLEO economics, Cislunar space, Dennis Wingo, DIY programs, Dr. Alvin Hansen, economic growth, FAA AST, industrial manufacturing capability, international space cooperation, Keynesian economics, lunar resources., macro economics, Maker Faire, Maker programs, minorities & space advocacy, NASA budget, national investment, political leadership, regulatory environment, secular stagnation, Silicon Valley, space advocacy, space budget, space economic growth, technology investment, vocational training, Zero G Zero Tax
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Dennis Wingo, Tuesday, 8-18-15
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Guest: Dennis Wingo. Topics: Economic secular stagnation, space development & economic growth, space advocacy, leadership, & more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.
We welcomed Dennis Wingo back to the show to discuss his recent blog article at https://denniswingo.wordpress.com/2015/08/05/secular-stagnation-and-space-a-way-beyond-our-current-economic-plateau, Secular Stagnation and Space: A Way Beyond Our Current Economic Plateau.” During the first segment of our 1 hour 54 minute program, Dennis started out by defining secular stagnation as used today but also as coined back in December 1938 by then Harvard economics professor, Dr. Alvin Hansen, in his paper titled “Economic Progress and Declining Population Growth” (see this link for the March 1939 publication of his paper, www.jstor.org/stable/1806983?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents). This discussion led to Dennis providing us with both a pre-WW2 economic summary of the U.S. economy, then a post war U.S. economic summary. The latter discussion had a special focus on the years including our early space program with a high degree of technological investment up to the present where new technology investment has been declining. Dennis provided us with economic stats and facts to support what he was talking about. Given the current status of our economy and work force, Dennis advocated for a substantial new technology spending increase with a significant focus on space development technology. Later, he included specialized job training but you will hear more about that later. During this segment, Dennis received many email questions by the listeners on the topics being discussed. Note that our discussion was much broader than just focusing and talking about space economic development.
In the second segment, Ben started us off with an email claiming that the labor force and culture of the U.S. today was vastly different from that of the 50s -80s so looking for a solution that worked back then would likely not work today. Dennis spent most of the segment both refuting and responding to this question because it brought up the subject of vocational training which was prevalent during the early period but not now. Dennis explained why vocational training was so important and why it had been decimated. I once again shared my experiences lobbying the California legislature to pass workforce education (the new name for vocational training) legislation. Dennis advocated for the Do It Yourself (DIY) community which is growing around the country along with the Maker movement with events like Maker Faire. He also talked about meaningful vocational training for job training for young people not working or wanting to improve their work and career prospects. To support this, he cited older programs that did this and the success they brought to the people who participated and to the nation. He also talked about legal and legislative efforts to bring some sort of vocational training back to public education with modern tools, computers, and the technology of today, not the 50s. Dennis strongly supported the proposed Zero G Zero Tax legislation. Later in the segment, listeners asked him where he would start space economic growth and then what he thought the NASA budget would need to be to facilitate the level of economic growth being talked about on this program. Do not miss these discussions. Share your thoughts with us on The Space Show blog per above. Near the end of the program, several listeners emailed Dennis about changing the way space advocacy organization think because they typically do not present their advocacy case in terms of benefitting economic and industrial growth. Dennis had a lot to say about this. I suspect some organizations may not like it either! Another topic brought up was our current regulatory regime and environment and was it capable of supporting space industrial growth of the magnitude Dennis said was needed. When asked about international cooperation, he was very positive, especially with regards to European and Japanese technology. They have excellent technology and a passion to invest in technology, including space technology. As the program was ending, Dennis again returned to the theme regarding the need for genuine leadership in the country, regardless of political party or ideology. For the record, Dennis was equally critical of our political leadership regardless of party.
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Dr. Bruce Cordell, Friday, 6-19-15 June 20, 2015Posted by The Space Show in Uncategorized.
Tags: : Dr. Bruce Cordell, Apollo moon landings, China space program, ebullience, economic growth, economic turnaround, European Space Agency, global warming, government space programs, ISS, Mars, Maslow Window, Panic of 2008, President Kennedy space policy, presidential elections & space policy, public private partnerships, Return to the Moon, Russian space policy, societal negativity., SSP
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Dr. Bruce Cordell, Friday, 6-19-15
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Guest: Dr. Bruce Cordell. Topics: Maslow Windows, economic growth, the start of a new space program era. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.
We welcomed back Dr. Bruce Cordell for updates to his Maslow Window theory predicting an upcoming era of new space development and expansion. During the first segment of our 2 hour 2 minute discussion, Dr. Cordell started out with an example that he said showed Russian’s interest and importance in space. I’ll let it be a surprise, you decide. From there, Dr. Cordell explained the basics of the Maslow Window conditions but rather than going back decades and centuries in history as he has done in past shows to confirm the cycles and the big projects coming after the cycles, he started with President Kennedy, his economic policy, the return of ebullience to the country, and eventually our moon program. Bruce then jumped forward to recent times, pointing to milestones in our economy and national mindset over the years since Apollo and why he thinks conditions are right today to see a new major space program develop as part of economic and forward growth for the country which again, he suggested might be just around the corner. Much of the first segment was devoted to his explaining why what I just wrote is so. There were several email questions from listeners. For example, Jerry challenged Dr. Cordell by saying that things were very different today than in the time of JFK and the Apollo program. He said that today there would have be a refocus of the entire nation to overcome the lack of any ebullient feelings in the country or to kindle a desire to spend big money on space anything. Bruce agreed with Jerry but listen to his full explanation & rational for his theory. Bruce cited the lack of ebullience throughout the country, polls showing that most Americans have a negative view of things right now and for the future, and said this was all part of the coming turnaround leading to economic growth and major development projects that take place twice a century. Bruce received some questions about not wanting a government program but letting the private companies or commercial markets do the next big projects. He thought dependency on the government for big projects would continue for years to come due to the costs but welcomed commercial industry support and public private partnerships. Later in the segment, Bruce assigned a high degree of importance to the Chinese space program suggesting it might be part of the turnaround needed to return ebullience to the country to set the stage for a large project which he suggested might be a competitive space project due to China’s space program. Bruce also took this opportunity as he did in the next segment to advocate returning to the Moon as the next logical step in our space development program. He also cited recent comments made by the new Director of ESA that he said supported the coming Maslow Window.
In the second segment, Bruce returned to a question asked earlier by Bill about the possible impact of the 2016 presidential election on triggering this new, great space project. Bruce spoke directly to the idea of presidential impact & potential policy changes. He was asked if any of the candidates would strongly support such policies in the primaries and he and others suggested it would likely be done after a new president was elected, not during the campaign. Listen to his reasoning for this. This prompted me to get in there with my two cents worth on this discussion which was very different from what Bruce was talking about. Fortunately, my comments/rant did not go on for too long but see what you think of it. Post your thoughts on the blog, thumbs up or down. Bruce told me after the show that he appreciated my engaging him as I did in this particular show. During this segment, Bruce mentioned other examples of space events and happenings to support his overall theory. Later in the segment to support his thesis on the return of economic growth, he cited a recent Wall Street Journal article, “The Return of Growth Economics”(www.wsj.com/articles/the-return-of-growth-economics-1434063021). I supported the idea of the return to growth economics but in my comments I mentioned above, I took it further saying that a space project might be seen as a tool to benefit the national industry and spur economic growth. I also said it would not come from a space advocacy perspective but rather space would be used as a tool for national policy and benefit. Dennis Wingo recently addressed the economy in his article “Secular stagnation and space: a way beyond our current economic plateau” which you can read at http://room.eu.com/articles?id=88. Dennis is returning to The Space Show next month to discuss this and other items of interest. As our program was drawing to a close, Dr. Cordell offered us some takeaway points and a good set of concluding remarks.
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Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson, Friday, 3-8-13 March 9, 2013Posted by The Space Show in Uncategorized.
Tags: " Cosmos TV Show, " SpaceX, "Space Chronicles: Facing The Ultimate Frontier, China, collaboration, culture of innovation, deep space, delusional thinking, economic growth, frontier development, fuel depots, government as advance man in space, human spaceflight, innovation nation, inspiration, JFK Rice University Speech, Mars, military threats, NASA budget, NASA space vehicles, Neil deGrasse Tyson, public/private partnerships, space contribution to GDP, space education, space exploration, space goals, space pioneering., space race, space wars, STEM
Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson, Friday, 3-8-13
Guest: Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson. Topics: Dr. Tyson’s book, “Space Chronicles: Facing The Ultimate Frontier,” delusional thinking, space exploration, space economic power. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.
We welcomed backed Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson to this 60 minute discussion about the new release of the paperback version of his current book, “Space Chronicles: Facing The Ultimate Frontier.” If you buy the book with this Amazon link, Amazon will make a contribution to The Space Show/OGLF: http://www.amazon.com/Space-Chronicles-Facing-Ultimate-Frontier/dp/0393343626/ref=onegiantlea20. The book is a collection of all of Dr. Tyson’s thoughts about the past, present, and future in space. It consists of essays, tweets, op-eds and more, plus an appendix with important documents such as the original agreement creating NASA in the late 1950s. Neil said that some of the points he made in the book were that space was expensive and that we do things in space for one of two reasons: 1. As a result of military threat or war; 2: In support of economic growth of the country. He then supported his argument with historical facts, making the point that we do not explore for the sake of exploring, that exploration is not in our DNA, that we do not go into space to inspire future generations of kids, and then he even mentioned that the famous JFK Rice University speech which he said was a lie in that weeks before in a speech before Congress, President Kennedy put forth the real reason we were going to the Moon which was to show the world a path of freedom over tyranny. Dr. Tyson documents this on p. 192 of his book by saying that “Kennedy did adopt a military posture in his speech to Congress.” Neil stressed this point during our discussion in support of the above reasons for developing. More about this speech can be found at www.history.com/this-day-in-history/jfk-asks-congress-to-support-the-space-program. The actual text of the speech can be seen at www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/xzw1gaeeTES6khED14P1Iw.aspx. Dr. Tyson also talked about the problem of delusional thinking among space enthusiasts, a theme we went back to several times during our discussion. Another point he made was about the importance of innovation and having a culture of innovation with space goals supporting the economic growth of an innovative nation. Kelly asked a question about the best way to increase NASAs budget in bipartisan support of space for STEM, inspiration, spin-offs, etc. Our guest said all of the reasons cited in Kelly’s question were irrelevant. Don’t miss what he said. We also talked about the need for infrastructure and Neil said that governments have to pave the way for the frontier and the private companies follow and economically develop it. He said the commercial companies do not and will not be able to open the space frontier with the needed infrastructure. I then depicted government as sort of an advance man in space with the privates being able to capitalize that infrastructure development for profit & national wealth. A listener asked about China, a space race, and a possible space war. Dr. Tyson also said that we should have launch vehicles that go everywhere for research and innovative reasons and we needed to shift our culture to seeing space as a long term national investment for creating wealth for the nation, far beyond the term of our elected officials. He talked about SpaceX and the need for a rich and fertile collaboration between government and the commercial companies regarding space. I asked our guest about testifying before Congress. You will want to hear what he had to say about that based on his experiences in do so. We talked about space and grass roots movements. He talked about GDP economic growth during the Apollo period and then what happened each decade after that through the current period. Jim sent in a question pointing out possible contradictions in his comments & suggested fuel depots as a way to minimize the quantity of rockets and launches. Dr Tyson said he was hardware agnostic and that in developing infrastructure and paving the way for the privates in space, fuel depots might very well be part of infrastructure but that government would be doing them, especially early on. Later, Dr. Tyson talked about our system being a political system and that it was not going to change. He used this as one of the examples of delusional thinking given many enthusiasts who don’t accept this reality & believe they can bypass or work around the political nature of our government and systems. Near the end of our discussion, he was asked about the Inspire Mars mission which he said was probably a stunt but that it might serve the purpose of showing the government that lots of people are interested in an HSF to Mars. Another listener wanted to know if the Inspire Mars mission turned out bad, would it derail human spaceflight. He did not think it would do that given other space accidents with the loss of crew.
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Dr. Michael Simpson & Langdon Morris, Sunday, 12-9-12 December 10, 2012Posted by The Space Show in Uncategorized.
Tags: " Aerospace Technology Working Group (ATWG), "International Cooperation For The Development of Space, Chinese Space Program, Dr. Michael Simpson, economic growth, Futron Space Competitive Index, human spaceflight, international participation in the space sector, ISS, ITAR, Langdon Morris, NASA, NewSpace, niche space markets, niche space specialization, public/private partnerships, Secure World Foundation, space policy, U.S. spaceports
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Dr. Michael Simpson & Langdon Morris, Sunday, 12-9-12
Tags: civil space., commercial space, Dr. Haym Benaroya, Dr. John Jurist, economic growth, government investment, government spending, NASA, NASA budget, space benefits, space community civility, space entrepreneurs, space inspiration, space medicine, space policy, space technology, space vision, STEM, U.S. congress, zero sum game
Dr. John Jurist, Dr. Haym Benaroya, & DrSpace, Monday, 4-9-12
Guests: Dr. John Jurist, Dr. Haym Benaroya. Topics: Space policy ideas as presented in our Op-Ed & Open Letter which you can read on The Space Show blog. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed back Drs. Jurist and Benaroya to discuss our two articles to be published regarding U.S. space policy. You can read the drafts of these two articles on The Space Show blog per the URL above for this particular program and date. We are asking for your constructive feedback, comments, and questions as our intention is to refine both letters and submit them for publication. All comments and feedback are welcome but the most useful feedback will offer suggestions for how to make our letters more effective in fostering space policy that supports economic, STEM, and space program growth on the civil side as well as on the private, entrepreneurial, & commercial side. In addition, The Space Show suggests that listeners write their own 1,000 word Op-Ed and submit it to The Space Show. I will put it up on the blog, plus offer you time on The Space Show to articulate your perspective and views. We know that some of you will disagree with what we have said and we do want your contribution to the discussion as you will hear during this program. So do join in on the overall space policy debate. Don’t just sit on the sidelines, get your ideas out there to advance the discussion. During our discussion which was 90 minutes without a break, the three of us explained why we decided to write and publish our thoughts on space policy and our future in space, plus we went into some detail as to the content of leach letter. We fielded several listener questions which offered suggestions as well as critiques of both our approach and our content. Several of the listener comments offered no suggestions for making the letters more effective, opting instead to tell us where we were going wrong. Please post your comments, suggestions, and feedback on the blog. Any emails sent directly to me regarding our letters and this discussion will be posted on the blog in your name without any editing on my part. If you want to send an email to Dr. Jurist or Dr. Benaroya, please send it to me at email@example.com and I will gladly forward it for you.