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Dennis Wingo, Tuesday, 8-18-15 August 19, 2015

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Dennis Wingo, Tuesday, 8-18-15

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Guest: Dennis Wingo. Topics: Economic secular stagnation, space development & economic growth, space advocacy, leadership, & more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed Dennis Wingo back to the show to discuss his recent blog article at https://denniswingo.wordpress.com/2015/08/05/secular-stagnation-and-space-a-way-beyond-our-current-economic-plateau, Secular Stagnation and Space: A Way Beyond Our Current Economic Plateau.” During the first segment of our 1 hour 54 minute program, Dennis started out by defining secular stagnation as used today but also as coined back in December 1938 by then Harvard economics professor, Dr. Alvin Hansen, in his paper titled “Economic Progress and Declining Population Growth” (see this link for the March 1939 publication of his paper, www.jstor.org/stable/1806983?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents). This discussion led to Dennis providing us with both a pre-WW2 economic summary of the U.S. economy, then a post war U.S. economic summary. The latter discussion had a special focus on the years including our early space program with a high degree of technological investment up to the present where new technology investment has been declining. Dennis provided us with economic stats and facts to support what he was talking about. Given the current status of our economy and work force, Dennis advocated for a substantial new technology spending increase with a significant focus on space development technology. Later, he included specialized job training but you will hear more about that later. During this segment, Dennis received many email questions by the listeners on the topics being discussed. Note that our discussion was much broader than just focusing and talking about space economic development.

 

In the second segment, Ben started us off with an email claiming that the labor force and culture of the U.S. today was vastly different from that of the 50s -80s so looking for a solution that worked back then would likely not work today. Dennis spent most of the segment both refuting and responding to this question because it brought up the subject of vocational training which was prevalent during the early period but not now.  Dennis explained why vocational training was so important and why it had been decimated. I once again shared my experiences lobbying the California legislature to pass workforce education (the new name for vocational training) legislation. Dennis advocated for the Do It Yourself (DIY) community which is growing around the country along with the Maker movement with events like Maker Faire. He also talked about meaningful vocational training for job training for young people not working or wanting to improve their work and career prospects. To support this, he cited older programs that did this and the success they brought to the people who participated and to the nation. He also talked about legal and legislative efforts to bring some sort of vocational training back to public education with modern tools, computers, and the technology of today, not the 50s. Dennis strongly supported the proposed Zero G Zero Tax legislation. Later in the segment, listeners asked him where he would start space economic growth and then what he thought the NASA budget would need to be to facilitate the level of economic growth being talked about on this program. Do not miss these discussions. Share your thoughts with us on The Space Show blog per above. Near the end of the program, several listeners emailed Dennis about changing the way space advocacy organization think because they typically do not present their advocacy case in terms of benefitting economic and industrial growth. Dennis had a lot to say about this. I suspect some organizations may not like it either! Another topic brought up was our current regulatory regime and environment and was it capable of supporting space industrial growth of the magnitude Dennis said was needed. When asked about international cooperation, he was very positive, especially with regards to European and Japanese technology. They have excellent technology and a passion to invest in technology, including space technology. As the program was ending, Dennis again returned to the theme regarding the need for genuine leadership in the country, regardless of political party or ideology. For the record, Dennis was equally critical of our political leadership regardless of party.

 

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Dr. Bruce Cordell, Friday, 6-19-15 June 20, 2015

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Dr. Bruce Cordell, Friday, 6-19-15

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Guest:  Dr. Bruce Cordell.  Topics:  Maslow Windows, economic growth, the start of a new space program era.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed back Dr. Bruce Cordell for updates to his Maslow Window theory predicting an upcoming era of new space development and expansion.  During the first segment of our 2 hour 2 minute discussion, Dr. Cordell started out with an example that he said showed Russian’s interest and importance in space.  I’ll let it be a surprise, you decide.  From there, Dr. Cordell explained the basics of the Maslow Window conditions but rather than going back decades and centuries in history as he has done in past shows to confirm the cycles and the big projects coming after the cycles, he started with President Kennedy, his economic policy, the return of ebullience to the country, and eventually our moon program.  Bruce then jumped forward to recent times, pointing to milestones in our economy and national mindset over the years since Apollo and why he thinks conditions are right today to see a new major space program develop as part of economic and forward growth for the country which again, he suggested might be just around the corner.  Much of the first segment was devoted to his explaining why what I just wrote is so.  There were several email questions from listeners.  For example, Jerry challenged Dr. Cordell by saying that things were very different today than in the time of JFK and the Apollo program.  He said that today there would have be a refocus of the entire nation to overcome the lack of any ebullient feelings in the country or to kindle a desire to spend big money on space anything.  Bruce agreed with Jerry but listen to his full explanation & rational for his theory.  Bruce cited the lack of ebullience throughout the country, polls showing that most Americans have a negative view of things right now and for the future, and said this was all part of the coming turnaround leading to economic growth and major development projects that take place twice a century. Bruce received some questions about not wanting a government program but letting the private companies or commercial markets do the next big projects.  He thought dependency on the government for big projects would continue for years to come due to the costs but welcomed commercial industry support and public private partnerships.  Later in the segment, Bruce assigned a high degree of importance to the Chinese space program suggesting it might be part of the turnaround needed to return ebullience to the country to set the stage for a large project which he suggested might be a competitive space project due to China’s space program.  Bruce also took this opportunity as he did in the next segment to advocate returning to the Moon as the next logical step in our space development program.  He also cited recent comments made by the new Director of ESA that he said supported the coming Maslow Window.

 

In the second segment, Bruce returned to a question asked earlier by Bill about the possible impact of the 2016 presidential election on triggering this new, great space project.  Bruce spoke directly to the idea of presidential impact & potential policy changes.  He was asked if any of the candidates would strongly support such policies in the primaries and he and others suggested it would likely be done after a new president was elected, not during the campaign.  Listen to his reasoning for this.  This prompted me to get in there with my two cents worth on this discussion which was very different from what Bruce was talking about.  Fortunately, my comments/rant did not go on for too long but see what you think of it.  Post your thoughts on the blog, thumbs up or down. Bruce told me after the show that he appreciated my engaging him as I did in this particular show.  During this segment, Bruce mentioned other examples of space events and happenings to support his overall theory.  Later in the segment to support his thesis on the return of economic growth, he cited a recent Wall Street Journal article, “The Return of Growth Economics”(www.wsj.com/articles/the-return-of-growth-economics-1434063021).  I supported the idea of the return to growth economics but in my comments I mentioned above, I took it further saying that a space project might be seen as a tool to benefit the national industry and spur economic growth.  I also said it would not come from a space advocacy perspective but rather space would be used as a tool for national policy and benefit.   Dennis Wingo recently addressed the economy in his article  “Secular stagnation and space: a way beyond our current economic plateau” which you can read at http://room.eu.com/articles?id=88.  Dennis is returning to The Space Show next month to discuss this and other items of interest.  As our program was drawing to a close, Dr. Cordell offered us some takeaway points and a good set of concluding remarks.

 

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Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson, Friday, 3-8-13 March 9, 2013

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Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson, Friday, 3-8-13

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1968-BWB-2013-03-08.mp3

Guest:  Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson.  Topics:  Dr. Tyson’s book, “Space Chronicles: Facing The Ultimate Frontier,” delusional thinking, space exploration, space economic power.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed backed Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson to this 60 minute discussion about the new release of the paperback version of his current book, “Space Chronicles: Facing The Ultimate Frontier.”  If you buy the book with this Amazon link, Amazon will make a contribution to The Space Show/OGLF:  http://www.amazon.com/Space-Chronicles-Facing-Ultimate-Frontier/dp/0393343626/ref=onegiantlea20.  The book is a collection of all of Dr. Tyson’s thoughts about the past, present, and future in space.  It consists of essays, tweets, op-eds and more, plus an appendix with important documents such as the original agreement creating NASA in the late 1950s.  Neil said that some of the points he made in the book were that space was expensive and that we do things in space for one of two reasons: 1.  As a result of military threat or war; 2: In support of economic growth of the country.  He then supported his argument with historical facts, making the point that we do not explore for the sake of exploring, that exploration is not in our DNA, that we do not go into space to inspire future generations of kids, and then he even mentioned that the famous JFK Rice University speech which he said was a lie in that weeks before in a speech before Congress, President Kennedy put forth the real reason we were going to the Moon which was to show the world a path of freedom over tyranny.  Dr. Tyson documents this on p. 192 of his book by saying that “Kennedy did adopt a military posture in his speech to Congress.”  Neil stressed this point during our discussion in support of the above reasons for developing.  More about this speech can be found at www.history.com/this-day-in-history/jfk-asks-congress-to-support-the-space-program.  The actual text of the speech can be seen at www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/xzw1gaeeTES6khED14P1Iw.aspx.  Dr. Tyson also talked about the problem of delusional thinking among space enthusiasts, a theme we went back to several times during our discussion.  Another point he made was about the importance of innovation and having a culture of innovation with space goals supporting the economic growth of an innovative nation.  Kelly asked a question about the best way to increase NASAs budget in bipartisan support of space for STEM, inspiration, spin-offs, etc.  Our guest said all of the reasons cited in Kelly’s question were irrelevant.  Don’t miss what he said.  We also talked about the need for infrastructure and Neil said that governments have to pave the way for the frontier and the private companies follow and economically develop it.  He said the commercial companies do not and will not be able to open the space frontier with the needed infrastructure.  I then depicted government as sort of an advance man in space with the privates being able to capitalize that infrastructure development for profit & national wealth. A listener asked about China, a space race, and a possible space war.  Dr. Tyson also said that we should have launch vehicles that go everywhere for research and innovative reasons and we needed to shift our culture to seeing space as a long term national investment for creating wealth for the nation, far beyond the term of our elected officials.  He talked about SpaceX and the need for a rich and fertile collaboration between government and the commercial companies regarding space.  I asked our guest about testifying before Congress. You will want to hear what he had to say about that based on his experiences in do so.  We talked about space and grass roots movements. He talked about GDP economic growth during the Apollo period and then what happened each decade after that through the current period.  Jim sent in a question pointing out possible contradictions in his comments & suggested fuel depots as a way to minimize the quantity of rockets and launches. Dr Tyson said he was hardware agnostic and that in developing infrastructure and paving the way for the privates in space, fuel depots might very well be part of infrastructure but that government would be doing them, especially early on.  Later, Dr. Tyson talked about our system being a political system and that it was not going to change.  He used this as one of the examples of delusional thinking given many enthusiasts who don’t accept this reality & believe they can bypass or work around the political nature of our government and systems.  Near the end of our discussion, he was asked about the Inspire Mars mission which he said was probably a stunt but that it might serve the purpose of showing the government that lots of people are interested in an HSF to Mars.  Another listener wanted to know if the Inspire Mars mission turned out bad, would it derail human spaceflight.  He did not think it would do that given other space accidents with the loss of crew.

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Dr. Michael Simpson & Langdon Morris, Sunday, 12-9-12 December 10, 2012

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Dr. Michael Simpson & Langdon Morris, Sunday, 12-9-12

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Guests:  Dr. Michael Simpson, Langdon Morris.  Topics:  International space cooperation & the new ATWG book, “International Cooperation For The Development of Space.” Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. We welcomed Dr. Michael Simpson and Langdon Morris to the program to discuss the new & important book, “International Cooperation For The Development of Space.” The book is available on Amazon.com at www.amazon.com/International-Cooperation-Development-Space-1/dp/1478186232/ref=onegiantlea20 and via Kindle @ www.amazon.com/International-Cooperation-Development-Technology-ebook/dp/B00941YBAG/ref=onegiantlea20. If you purchase this book through Amazon, a donation will be made to The Space Show/OGLF.  As you will hear me say throughout our program, this book helps make a very strong case, especially to those outside the space community, for why space development is so important.  I strongly urge you to read this book and to share it with as many as possible.  As we started our discussion, Langdon Morris provided us with an overview of the book, including the purpose behind it, and the global mix of authors and viewpoints supporting international cooperative space development.  We talked with Dr. Simpson about his Chapter 2:  “Broadening The Base: Cooperation As A Springboard For New Participants In the Space Sector.”  We learned about new countries being involved in space development, their requirements for getting involved in space which include economic growth, and the niche specialty areas being pursued by these new players.  I asked about the absence of human spaceflight in the international cooperation discussion.  This prompted a most interesting exchange with our guests on the subject, one you do not want to miss.  Our guests provided us with great examples of real benefits flowing from international cooperative space development, including emergency services for disasters such as Katrina.  We took listener calls suggesting international financial participation in cooperative space projects might make high ticket items more plausible such as SLS or a Mars mission.  There was general agreement on this theory but as our guest pointed out, there still needs to be international agreement on the project and its management.  Another benefit of international cooperation points to project stability over time.
      In our second segment, Doug called in to ask about a two track system consisting of a public sector track and a second track for public/private partnerships.  Our guests suggested the public/private direction would be more viable. Don’t miss their explanation for this approach.  We talked about competition as compared to international cooperation. Our guests were also asked about the impact of ITAR on U.S. international cooperation.  We talked about the Chinese space program and our guests were asked about the NewSpace segment.
      Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can email our guests through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Dr. John Jurist, Dr. Haym Benaroya, & DrSpace, Monday, 4-9-12 April 9, 2012

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Dr. John Jurist, Dr. Haym Benaroya, & DrSpace, Monday, 4-9-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1748-BWB-2012-04-09.mp3

Guests:  Dr. John Jurist, Dr. Haym Benaroya.  Topics:  Space policy ideas as presented in our Op-Ed & Open Letter which you can read on The Space Show blog.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed back Drs. Jurist and Benaroya to discuss our two articles to be published regarding U.S. space policy.  You can read the drafts of these two articles on The Space Show blog per the URL above for this particular program and date.  We are asking for your constructive feedback, comments, and questions as our intention is to refine both letters and submit them for publication.  All comments and feedback are welcome but the most useful feedback will offer suggestions for how to make our letters more effective in fostering space policy that supports economic, STEM, and space program growth on the civil side as well as on the private, entrepreneurial, & commercial side.  In addition, The Space Show suggests that listeners write their own 1,000 word Op-Ed and submit it to The Space Show.  I will put it up on the blog, plus offer you time on The Space Show to articulate your perspective and views. We know that some of you will disagree with what we have said and we do want your contribution to the discussion as you will hear during this program.  So do join in on the overall space policy debate.  Don’t just sit on the sidelines, get your ideas out there to advance the discussion.  During our discussion which was 90 minutes without a break, the three of us explained why we decided to write and publish our thoughts on space policy and our future in space, plus we went into some detail as to the content of leach letter.  We fielded several listener questions which offered suggestions as well as critiques of both our approach and our content.  Several of the listener comments offered no suggestions for making the letters more effective, opting instead to tell us where we were going wrong.  Please post your comments, suggestions, and feedback on the blog.  Any emails sent directly to me regarding our letters and this discussion will be posted on the blog in your name without any editing on my part.  If you want to send an email to Dr. Jurist or Dr. Benaroya, please send it to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will gladly forward it for you.

1.  9 April 2012 – Open Letter to Our Government

2.  9 April 2012 – The United States at the Crossroads

Dr. Phil Chapman, Friday, 3-23-12 March 24, 2012

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Dr. Phil Chapman, Friday, 3-23-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1741-BWB-2012-03-23.mp3

Guest:  Dr. Phil Chapman.  Topics:  The status of our human spaceflight program, NASA, commercial space.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed back Dr. Phil Chapman to suggest ways forward to improve our space program, specifically the human spaceflight (HSF) program.  Dr. Chapman started us off with an assessment that the NASA HSF program was at this time dismal.  Among the reasons cited were the likely number of U.S. astronauts that would be flying to the ISS through 2020 per the Soyuz and the fact that the pilots for U.S. astronauts will either be Russian or working for Space X.  All in all, he suggested that there might be 25-30 slots available and they would be filled by technicians.  During this nearly hour long first segment, he continued to summarize the problems and challenges, then he switched to probable solutions from the commercial side with a focus on Space X, the Falcon 9, and Dragon.  Phil had much to say about congressional support of SLS, the use of SRBs, and more.  He talked about the commercial value in returning to the Moon or going to an asteroid for Platinum Group Metals (PGM).  He indicated that future space activity had to be in support of settlement and commercialization.  Dr. Chapman then took us into an economic discussion and the need for space to be expanding, growing and developing new markets. As part of this discussion, both of us and the listeners had much to say about our policy makers. This brought up the “sustainable” discussion that many of you have heard before.  You do not want to miss Dr. Chapman’s economic discussion in this segment. Near the end of the segment, we talked about RLVs and the probable cost difference between a commercial venture and one undertaken by NASA.

In the second segment, Charles led off with a call suggesting a merger between Space X and Bigelow and simply bypassing NASA for everything.  After Charles finished, Phil talked about one probable driver for changing the space game, space solar power (SSP).  Dr. Chapman spent much of this segment laying out the case for SSP from a technical as well as economic/business perspective.  We also talked about policy and Zero G Zero Tax.  Public/Private partnerships were discussed and then Phil talked about international cooperation as compared to international competition.  Don’t miss this discussion.

If you have comments/questions for Dr. Phil Chapman, please post them on The Space Show blog URL above.  If you want to email Dr. Chapman, send your note to me and I will forward it to him.

 

Mark Whittington, Sunday, 2-26-12 February 26, 2012

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Mark Whittington, Sunday, 2-26-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1721-BWB-2012-02-26.mp3

Guest: Mark Whittington.  Topics: Space Budgets, policy, & politics.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed Mark Whittington back to the show for this 2.5 hour wide ranging discussion on space budgets, the economy, space policy and space politics, plus economic issues facing the nation and others around the world.  We also talked about space perspectives of all those running for president including President Obama and the Republican party challengers.  Mark talked about two article he wrote that were pertinent to our discussion.  These articles are (1) “Moon Base Supporters Struggle to Justify the Project:”

www.examiner.com/space-news-in-houston/moon-base-supporters-struggle-to-justify-the-project; and (2) “A Lunar Exploration Reading List for Mitt Romney:”

www.examiner.com/space-news-in-houston/a-lunar-exploration-reading-list-for-mitt-romney.  In our first segment of 45 minutes, we talked about Texas space politics & redistricting, the Johnson Space Center, & the proposed FY 13 budget.  Mark suggested Congress would rewrite most of the budget but that the Senate would likely not pass a budget so we would end up on CR.  I asked Mark how that would lead to programs being cancelled such as ExoMars if we are still on CR as those programs are embedded in the CR from year to year.  Mark described the process through administrative acts by NASA, Congress, or the President re cancellation, and what the Appropriations Committee would have to do to avoid them. For the most part, more money would need to be found for NASA but that was not likely. Mark talked about what constitutes commercial saying that for something to be really commercial, it has to be able to fail. We compared today’s commercial space programs to gov. programs in terms of Mark’s criteria.  Listeners asked about SLS & Orion, wondering if it & when SLS would be cancelled. The idea of a lunar base was discussed in light of the comments made a few weeks ago in the Florida debate by Newt.  Mark also talked about what he thought might be the space policy of the other candidates though not that much is known other than for Newt, Mitt, and President Obama.  Mark talked about cutting out other budgetary items to make room for a quality space program & he highlighted the high speed rail program.

In our long second segment, Marshall called with a question about the original Mercury astronauts still alive.  We  talked some about human factors, microgravity, and life support issues.  Listeners asked about the Chinese space program & their military buildup.  Here, I referenced the recent congressional testimony of Ronald Burgess, Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency.  The article I referenced is at http://bigthink.com/ideas/42630.  Mark spoke at length about exploration, citing his favorite history story involving Prince Henry The Navigator of Portugal. Jim asked Mark that if he believed commercial space was the best path forward & that SLS was a bad idea, how would he go about getting more support for commercial space even at the expense of SLS.  Mark offered some concrete ideas in response to Jim’s question. John from Billings sent in a few notes & then later called to talk about why there is such an argument about SRBs as compared to liquid rocket motors.  Challenger was mentioned along with Constellation but mainly Mark said that people’s behavior tends to find ways to support their beliefs. Terry, another Texan like Mark, called to ask why Sen. Hutchinson so strongly opposes commercial space.  Mark offered a pretty good answer.  Risk taking, more on SLS, Dream Chaser & the CST 100 were discussed along with the new project, Stratolaunch. As our program drew to a close, I asked Mark to summarize space policy for 2012 which he did do but then more questions came in.  Becky wanted Mark to connect the dots vis a vis our economy & how this might impact NASA & all space development.  This led to quite a little economic discussion with Mark, myself, and Dr. Jurist who called in about that time.  As usual, I went off on my rant about space as an investment, not an expense.  Jack got in the last word asking for three key events impacting space for 2012 other than the election.  Mark said the upcoming Space X flight, what Congress does with the budget, and the planned Chinese mission later this year.  In his concluding remarks, Mark talked about the economic options facing the country & he left us with a few points to consider.  He urged us to participate in Town Hall meetings and ask the candidates space questions.

If you have comments/questions please post them The Space Show blog.  Marks blog, Curmudgeons Corner, is at http://curmudgeons.blogspot.com.

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