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Auditions and Co-host Program, Tuesday, 2-10-15 February 11, 2015

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Auditions and Co-host Program, Tuesday, 2-10-15

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Guests:  Space Show Host Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  How to be a guest & co-host on the program plus other topics.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

Welcome to our Audition and Co-host program.  During the first segment of our nearly 2 hour program, we did not get any audition calls from people contacting me to put themselves on The Space Show as a guest.  Toward the end of the program I took a call from Andrew regarding his being a co-host and one from Tim with an excellent suggestion for how to be on the program.  More about those calls when we get to the second segment.  For the first segment, Marshall called and talked about three sci-fi books he is writing plus I asked about his daughter who won a Space Show contest years ago and she got a tour of Loral and their satellite mfg. business.  Pooley called and talked about SpaceX, then he talked about the next several books being planned in the Microlaunchers series.

 

In the second segment, John in Ft. Worth called to talk about seeing the video on rocket reusability with Tori Bruno at Stanford. Mr. Bruno is the ULA CEO.  The better link to use when seeing this hour long video is http://youtu.be/iVFz67WCPIw.  John and I strongly recommend it.  Doug began emailing questions to John about depots and his previous calculations regarding the Falcon Heavy.  John admitted to an error in his previous analysis which he discussed that with Doug who was communicating via email.  Our next caller was Tim in Huntsville who suggested blogtalker.com for people who contact me wanting to be on the show.  Clearly such people do not follow my suggestion which is to call an Open Lines show or call when I do the auditions show but with blogtalker.com, they can actually make a short demo talk on their subject or topic for TSS and send me the URL.  Based on how well they do, the interest in the topic plus other factors, that would help me decide if a self-invited guest should be on the show.  Andrew was our last caller and he talked about himself being a co-host for topics dealing with astronomy, telescopes, engineering, machine tools, and more.  Doug communicated with Andrew by email to discuss the role of machining in the setting of an initial base (Moon or Mars) when in situ metals are accessed.  What all could be made?  I am working on this show with Andrew.

 

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Open Lines, Sunday, 2-8-15 February 9, 2015

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Open Lines, Sunday, 2-8-15

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Guests:  Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  An open line discussion on many current and historical space topics.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

Welcome to our Open Lines discussion.  In the first segment of this 2 hour 2 minute program, I put forth some suggested topics and once again, I explained phone line issues for listeners regarding land lines, VoIP, compression, cordless phones, cell phones, digital phones, and even fiber lines.  Phone line issues remain the number one problem faced by The Space Show in delivering quality audio so once again I went over the requirements and the restraints based on our equipment and broadcasting equipment in general.  Several listeners did comment on the phone line issues via email.  John from Florida was the first caller and he talked about Ernst Stuhlinger and his work plus he requested Dr. Jeff Hoffman of MIT return as a guest to the show.  During our conversation, I mentioned ULA CEO Tory Bruno recent & his lecture at Stanford on the pros and cons of rocket reusability (www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DMb2yHh5CA).  Marshall was the next caller who talked about cell phones and the DSP computer in the phone. He also talked about SOHO and replacing old satellites with new ones. We talked about the cost of doing that and Marshall said he would gladly pay 5% more in taxes if he was guaranteed the money would be used for satellite replacement. I asked other callers if they would do that but nobody bothered to respond.  Marshall said we needed a satellite replacement program so jokingly, I suggested a Cash For Old Clunker Satellites modeled after the Cash for Clunkers car program several years ago.  Michael Listner called to talk about recent news articles suggesting the FAA was going to regulate lunar business.  He clarified this for us.  Emmet sent us a note suggesting Doug had a video on the net which had gone viral thus making Doug an internet star (www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzy63276GEg).

In the second segment, Doug called the show & explained the video as a product of http://www.moonandback.com.  Doug talked about the planned SpaceX launch later in the day, the recovery of the first stage and the Falcon Heavy as part of his overall heavy lift discussion.  He also raised some questions about the Dawn Mission and its potential findings regarding Ceres.  Turbo pumps came up as did other issues with liquid rocket motors such as which fuel to use given my promoting the late April webinar addressing these and other rocket issues.  Ken from Dallas called to talk about Moon Day set for July 18, STEM, and he also mentioned Asteroid Day set for June 30.  As Ken is a sci fi movie authority, we talked some movies and TV shows.  John from Ft. Worth called and mentioned a movie and the satellite being launched by SpaceX nicknamed the Al Gore Satellite for Climate Change.  John briefly mentioned The Telegraph article showing how temperature data had been tampered with and calling it the biggest scandal ever (www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-biggest-science-scandal-ever.html).  John put forth some growth and population statistics as part of his argument against global warming.  Other subjects mentioned during this open lines by listener emails included why there was no live streaming of the first stage recovery attempt for the Falcon 9, why drones were not suitable for live streaming as they were with the Orion flight, plus many listeners emailed in about Cash for Clunkers & old satellites and the projects and work of Ernst Stuhlinger.

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Dr. Paul Spudis, Monday, 1-19-15 January 20, 2015

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Dr. Paul Spudis, Monday, 1-19-15

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Guest:  Dr. Paul Spudis.  Topics:  Science, ARM, 2016 elections & space policy, return to the Moon and much more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Dr. Paul Spudis for this 1 hour 52 minute discussion.  Note that we lost our phone connection with Dr. Spudis several times in the second segment.  I’ve removed the dead air and related time sequences but you will know when we lost the connection.  Each time we got Dr. Spudis back on the line we then started where we were cut off. No discussion comments were lost. I apologize for the inconvenience.  In Part One, I asked Dr. Spudis how he assessed a change in space policy that might include a return to the Moon as a result of the 2016 presidential elections.  Its an interesting space policy and historical discussion you don’t want to miss.  I then directed our discussion to the article Dr. Spudis wrote on his blog, http://www.spudislunarresources.com/blog/overthrowing-science, “Overthrowing Science.”  I urge you to read this article as we spent the balance of the first segment discussing his observations and perspectives and the order of scientific development and progress.  As we approached the end of the segment, I asked Paul how we could protect ourselves from the misleading and manipulative information often presented to us as science.  He offered a few suggestions including the need to be skeptical & to do at least basic due diligence on the subject from a variety of sources.

In the second segment, we turned our attention to an article,  http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/19/7560263/nasa-asteroid-redirect-mission-politcal-suicide, “Is NASA’s asteroid mission the agency’s political downfall?”  For about half of this segment, Paul went into detail on the ARM, why it was problematic at best, the constraints of such a mission, and more.  For those interested in the ARM, this is an exceptionally detailed discussion so don’t miss it.  Listeners then wanted to return to classic Dr. Spudis so the lunar questions started coming in via email.  Doug sent in a few emails asking about lunar volatiles, LCROSS, and the use of lunar solar panels for the energy of a lunar habitat.  Paul said initially the power would be solar but it would have to evolve to nuclear fission reactors.  BJohn wanted to know about the Lunar Resource Prospecting Rover plus he asked questions about lunar results from asteroid hits.  Tim asked about a reusable lunar shuttle and Dr. Kiehl asked lunar mining and crater questions.  Several other listeners sent emails comparing terrestrial geology to lunar and Martian geology, even asking if studying petroleum geology in grad school would be relevant to space planetary geology since the person wanted to work in the space industry.  Toward the end Paul was asked about the progress of cislunar development.  I asked our guest for closing comments so again, listen sharply as he had important things to say for us all.

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Tom Olson, 2014 Year In Review, Tuesday, 12-30-14 December 31, 2014

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Tom Olson, 2014 Year In Review, Tuesday, 12-30-14

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Guest:  Tom Olson.  Topics:  Space year 2014 in review.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Tom Olson back to the show for his annual end of the year review show for the space year at hand, 2014.  During the first segment of our last program for 2014, I asked Tom for positive memorable events in 2014 .  Tom came well prepared for this question.  Do you have the same memorable events list or a different one?  Let us know on the blog.  As Tom was going through his list of memorable positive events and developments for 2014, we took some email questions about Blue Atlas, the Delta IV and human rating it, and of course ULA.  Another listener wanted to know what Tom thought of the idea of a prize for an on orbiting demo propellant depot and fuel transfer.  Toward the end of the first segment, Dr. Lurio called in and talked about fuel depots, markets for them, NASA and more. We also talked about Virgin Galactic and SpaceShip2 plus what may be forthcoming from the NTSB report when it becomes available.  Antares was also discussed before the break.

In the second segment, Jeff from Tucson called in about a possible Netscape Moment.  Tom did not think much of a Netscape Moment, instead he talked about the concept of space scalable.  I got in on the discussion as did others and this led us to our discussing reusability with SpaceX and would it be a game changer.  Later in the segment, more was said about the Delta IV, ULA, Atlas and even SLS.  For 2015, Tom talked about Bigelow Aerospace getting their modules up to the ISS.  He also talked about Dragon V2 and Falcon Heavy.  In addition, Tom mentioned Power Beaming test for SSP in space beaming power from point to point but in space.  Of course SLS and Orion came up. Tom is not supportive of it, Dr. Lurio called in who is not supportive of it and holding up the fort for it was our friend SLS John.  The latter part of the show was an ongoing give and take with Lurio, Tom and SLS John highly engaged in a back and forth but as you will hear, there were no winners.  Tom and I did a bit of reminiscing because we go back with one another for more than a decade.  We wished everyone a very Happy New Year and a great 2015.  And remember, “y’all come back for more in 2015!”

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Tom Olson Year 2012 In Review, Friday, 12-26-14 December 26, 2014

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Tom Olson Year 2012 In Review, Friday, 12-26-14

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Guest: Tom Olson. Topics: The year 2012 is reviewed from the space perspective and we look forward to space development in 2012. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

 

This program which originally aired on Dec. 31, 2012 as Tom Olson gave us his annual Space Show year in review analysis with a look forward to 2013 for space development. We started our 1 hour 36 minute discussion by remembering those in our space community that are no longer with us. We specifically mentioned three dear friends though we know that others have also left us. Our program was dedicated to Neil Armstrong, Jesco von Puttkamer, and Reda Anderson. We certainly miss our friends but space development marches on like everything else in life. A few of the early issues Tom brought up in the 2012 annual overview of space included the Falcon 9 launches and Dragon missions. He also talked about ISDC and birthing of Dragon during the keynote by NASA Administrator Charlie Bolden. While on the subject of SpaceX and its mission to the ISS, Paul sent in a question asking if SpaceX dropping out of the Stratolaunch project indicated that perhaps they had “bitten off more than they could chew.” Tom and I have no inside information about SpaceX and Stratolaunch but we both thought that Paul’s comment was reasonable as SpaceX is certainly busy enough with game changing projects & technology. Cubesats were discussed given their rise in popularity and importance in 2012. It seems as if their potential is more than on the rise! Cubesat growth also cuts across many diverse space industry segments and niche markets. Bev asked about the future of 3-D printing and its potential impact on future human spaceflight (HSF). 3-D printing is certainly experiencing space industry growth & there will soon be a small 3-D printer on the ISS. Heavy lift came up and much was said about the Falcon Heavy and SLS, both looking back over 2012 & forward to 2013.

 

In our second segment, I asked if fuel depots would evolve from the Power Point & rhetoric stage to something more tangible in 2013. We talked about depots as many of the projects announced in 2012 use depot technology to enable their plan. Tom talked about warp drive becoming more possible due to the 2012 work of Dr. Sonny White. Dr. White will be a guest on The Space Show Friday, January 4, 2013. Tom next brought up NASA budget issues & possible cuts. He talked about science mission cuts, the JWST, and on the HSF side, SLS eating up much of the budget with commercial crew still needing funding. I asked Tom how he thought space advocacy made out during 2012. Mixed was a one word summary of this discussion. Next, we talked about space settlement being made part of the U.S. space policy in 2013. Tom went over the pros & cons surrounding this effort. Doug called in about space settlement & I referred him to earlier programs with Steve Wolfe who authored the Space Settlement Act of 1988 which is part of public law. Tom said space settlement was SLS dependent & that makes the potential policy controversial to many space enthusiasts since many oppose SLS. Tom said 2012 was a good year for new commercial space grandiose missions such as Golden Spike, Planetary Resources, Mars One, a lunar base, Shackleton Energy, even EML2 missions. He kept asking the questions regarding objectives, who pays, the reasons for the missions, and more. He said most of these missions rely on some form of large launcher, either the Falcon Heavy SLS. Tom talked about ITAR reform that has been signed by both houses of Congress & is applicable to the U.S. satellite industry. Human rating of the Atlas came up for a 2012 progress report, then Dave in San Antonio inquired about cyber warfare & the space industry in 2012 & the future. 2012 marked the year the space shuttles went on display in museums & Tom talked about the Russian space program investments for modernization over the coming decade. He also talked about other national space programs. Near the end of our program, we brought up the Spaceport America liability issue & the risks facing the New Mexico spaceport. Tom updated us for 2013 on the NewSpace Business Plan Competition & his work with the Exodus Group for space business consulting.

 

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Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Tuesday, 12-16-14 December 17, 2014

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Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Tuesday, 12-16-14

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Guest:  Robert (Bob) Zimmerman.  Topics: Space news projects and updates, end of the year review, looking to 2015.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Bob Zimmerman back to the program for a wide ranging discussion of space news, space companies, projects, programs and more.  During the first segment of our two hour seven minute show, Bob started off promoting his book on Apollo 8, “Genesis” as we are coming up on the anniversary of this famous flight orbiting the Moon on Christmas eve at a distant time in our past.  After Bob’s infomercial was complete, he did have much to say about the everlasting importance of the Apollo 8 mission.  I asked Bob for end of the year space events to keep our eyes on so we talked about the upcoming SpaceX Falcon 9 launch and the attempt to recover the first stage on a barge as part of the SpaceX reusability plan.  We also talked about the Russian Angara rocket test flight.  A listener asked Bob for updates on the NTSB accident investigation for Virgin Galactic.  Bob also talked about SLS (it was yet another recurrent theme throughout the program) and as predicted, he had nothing good to say about it or Orion.  BJohn emailed us to ask about nuclear propulsion.  Both Bob and I responded and while we support it, there does not seem to be a business case for it or demand for it so there is no significant push to make it happen.  Marshall called to talk about the impact of falling oil prices on the space economy.  I had much to say about this as did Bob who in the end talked about trusting capitalism, freedom, and private enterprise to do the right thing.  We also talked about the impact of falling oil prices on the Russian economy, specifically their space program.  I then brought up the interest rate risk which is a huge potential danger for the US economy.  Luis emailed in about Falcon 9 prices of $5-7 million per a January 2014 Parabolic Arc article.  Note that this was clarified early in the next segment.

In segment two, Dr. Charles Lurio called to explain more about the SpaceX launch cost referenced by Luis in the previous segment.  Charles also talked about the Orbital effort to replace the Antares  rocket motor with another Russian motor, the RD 181.  Joe emailed in a note about the compact fusion plans for Lockheed.  Bob used the opportunity to criticize the large companies, their projects, pork, you name it.  Doug emailed in about some Boeing YouTube videos which Bob completely dismissed as having zero relevancy on anything.  Bob also took some slams at Orion and the recent test flight.  Next, we talked about the new announcement about Curiosity finding methane on Mars.  Bob added more to the story and said it was a wait and see situation but ultimately we would have to there to really answer questions about it.  SLS John called and said the program of record was going forward and made the point that for private enterprise to do something in space as Bob kept talking about, there needed to be a profit motive and he doubted that existed other than for some orbital and comsat missions.  Bob disagreed leaving the door open for a private company to pursue something not previously considered, again saying he trusted in the ingenuity of the private sector.  John reported that he had modeled the Falcon Heavy and could show it would take 53 metric tons to LEO.   Bob then talked about Falcon Heavy being cheaper than SLS (planned that is) so there really was no need for SLS.  Henry emailed a question about a possible Europa mission & Bob suggested if they would kill SLS, money could be directed to the planetary science department for things like a Europa mission plus they could still reduce the NASA budget.  In his concluding comments, Bob said he was skeptical about the suborbital industry and that its time had come and gone given the emerging orbital capsules and flight plans.  He concluded saying he was looking forward to the upcoming SpaceX launch abort tests.

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Dr. Jeff Foust, Monday, 12-15-14 December 16, 2014

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Dr. Jeff Foust, Monday, 12-15-14

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Guest:  Dr. Jeff Foust.  Topics:  Space news and events and a look into 2015.  Lots of quality space analysis.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Jeff Foust back to the program.  In the first segment of our 1 hour 53 minute discussion, Jeff covered many space events and projects including Jeff’s “Commercial Spaceflight After the Antares and SpaceShipTwo Failures” talk at the National Air and Space Museum on Dec. 8th.  We also talked about commercial space and here, Jeff gave us a good definition to use in general for commercial space.  He then provided us with economic stats for the entire commercial space industry and its segments including commercial satellites, ground service, NewSpace, and more.  Our guest said that Orion and SLS were at one end of the commercial space spectrum while at the other end one finds XCOR & Virgin Galactic.  Michael Listner called to talk about the Orion EFT 1 flight needing a commercial launch license as well as a return license given that it was a commercial flight contracted for by NASA in contrast to a NASA flight using a commercial company.  The discussion changed to the Virgin Galactic and Orbital Antares accidents and the potential impact of those accidents on both the companies and the commercial space industry in general.  Orbital’s proposed merger with ATK was mentioned as were possible replacement engines for Antares including the use of an ATK SRB.  A listener then brought up the Russian sanctions and the continued seemingly good relationship we have with Russia regarding space.  As the segment was ending, Alan in Tucson asked about reports that the Russians would leave the ISS in 2020.

In the second segment, our first caller was Dwayne who wanted to talk about delays and slipped launch schedules regarding the SpaceX launch manifesto. Jeff and Dwayne had an excellent discussion on this topic so don’t miss it.  Related topics came up in the discussion including reusability, customer needs such as an on time launch versus wanting a lower price and more.  Jerry sent in an email asking about the Raptor tests by SpaceX but Jeff said not much was being made public about them.  The NASA FY 15 budget came up again and Jeff went into some detail as to what part of NASA got what.  Public/private partnerships were mentioned & fully discussed in the segment.  Jeff did point out that the project must entice a private company to participate meaning that it  probably needs to have a strong business case for the project otherwise why would a private commercial company join with NASA.  Jeff indicated these opportunities might be few and far between at this time but when they work, they are a good way to structure the project.  There was a listener inquiry about SLS and cancellation. Jeff had much to say about this too.  Near the end of the segment, we talked more about public/private partnerships, the Delta 2 rocket and Antares, plus rocket certification for a NASA HSF launch, a science mission, and a DOD launch as all three have different certification requirements.  Our final topics included a brief mention of the suborbital industry, Dragon Lab, Skybox, Google Space, and Planet Labs.  Jeff offered us a good set of closing comments so be sure to listen to them.

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Open Lines, Sunday, 12-14-14 December 15, 2014

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Open Lines, Sunday, 12-14-14

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Tags:  Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  NASA Orion/SLS budget, Lunar Orbital Station, backing up Earth’s species and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

Welcome to our Open Lines discussion program.  During the first segment of our 2 hour 7 minute program, I started the discussion with a few suggested topics and program announcements.  The only suggested topic that had anything like legs was the 19% budget increase for SLS/Orion in the new FY 15 spending bill just passed by Congress.  BJohn sent in an email asking about a possible Lunar Orbital Station, maybe with Orion, in lieu of the ARM.  Next, Doug called in from S. California to promote the concept of Bio Preserve, backing up Earth’s species.  He talked about the need for this and why and how it might be done.  I suggested he check out the Lifeboat Foundation as they have something of a similar plan though its not identical to what Doug was talking about.  I did ask Doug how such a backup plan would be paid for and like most good ideas, paying for them presents challenges though Doug had decent suggestions.  Brett then called in to talk about his online book, “How To Be A Rocket Scientist.”  Get more information about the book and the ten tips that we talked about by visiting his website, http://www.howtobearocketscientist.com.  He said the book is aimed at the high school audience but he has been hearing from adults and college students who also find the book valuable.  We highlighted a few of his ten tips for discussion.

In the second segment, SLS John called re the NASA budget and said there was plenty of money and the funding increase for SLS/Orion put us on the right path.  John continued to make the case that SLS/Orion is our best chance to avoid being stuck in LEO.  I asked him about commercial space options and he said continuing with SLS/Orion does not prevent the commercial industry from following its own path.  Doug sent in a few emails to John about his comments including one saying that continuing with SLS/Orion blocks the possibility of public/private partnerships.  I challenged Doug’s comment on this because it assumes that monies saved by not having an SLS/Orion program would be used on Doug’s chosen space projects.  In fact Doug did say that we need to better spend tax payer money. While we can all agree with that, the best use of taxpayer money is clearly subjective and would depend on who you were talking with about the use of the money.  Marshall called next to inquire about an update show on space solar power.  I told him I would attempt to get a quality and realistic guest on the program early in the new year.  We then heard from Charles Pooley.  Charles talked about the first year anniversary of his first Microlaunchers book, book two which is in progress and plans for book three.  He also said he was interested in the NASA Challenge dealing with laser communications from space.  Also during the show I went over the final end of the year schedule and the plan to play archived end of the report program with Tom Olson as I did last year leading up to our live program with Tom for end of the year on Dec. 30.  I also pointed out that we would have one more Open Lines program this year on Sunday, Dec. 28.

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Dennis Wingo, Monday, 12-1-14 December 2, 2014

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Dennis Wingo, Monday, 12-1-14

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Guest:  Dennis Wingo.  Topics:  NASA ARM Mission, RTM, HSF to Mars, solar system economic development & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com . Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.  We did have a few audio problems as Dennis used a cell phone and we lost the connection a few times due to storms across N. California.

We welcomed back Dennis Wingo for this 93 minute discussion. PLEASE NOTE THAT WE ARE NOW CONDUCTING OUR ANNUAL FUND RAISING DRIVE.  WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE SPACE SHOW AND ITS PROGRAMMING EFFORT.  During our first segment, Dennis talked about his recent blog article at http://denniswingo.wordpress.com, To ARM or Not To ARM: Is That Really Our Question.  I urge you to download and read this article as Dennis refers to it many times over during our discussion.  He started out with an analysis of what was thought to be the NASA ARM mission as compared to what it has become today.  As you will hear, he was supportive of the initial mission, not the current evolved mission.  He explained why the shift in his position which was based on making the ARM mission a minimalist type mission.  He explained the differences in detail.  Budget reasons were cited as a primary reason for the mission being downgraded.  Dennis offered us an historical analysis & perspective of the NASA budget.  SLS, Falcon Heavy, & lots of space policy made it to this segment.  Dennis talked about solar electric propulsion for ARM, then he was asked about the likelihood of the next president initiating an RTM program.  Doug emailed about a COTS like program with ULA & Masten for a lunar lander.  Dennis had much to say about a lunar lander dating back to the Gemini era up to new, lower cost ideas coming from the commercial space industry.

In the second segment, Dennis continued talking about the upcoming new Congress and what might emerge as a different type program with a different budget though he thought we were more likely to entertain the status quo.  Several listeners wanted to know if it would boil down to the Moon vs. ARM or the Moon vs. Mars.  Don’t miss his response to these questions.  Our guest suggested we all watch the “Wanderers” video which you can see at http://vimeo.com/108650530.  Dennis mentioned that we did not need a government program as such for space but he did speak in favor of public/private partnerships.  We spoke much about the need for space and lunar infrastructure.  Sally asked him to explain the difference with the economic development of the solar system and space settlement.  He said space settlement was very much a part of a space economic development effort.  In response to another set of listener questions, Dennis talked about the 90-10 rule when has about robots in space as compared to astronauts.  Doug called to talk about investment capital for commercial space plus other issues.  I then asked Dennis if Lunar Cots or industrialization was included in solar system economic development and if so, at what stage?  Kirk emailed in a question challenging the role played by offering prizes.  Don’t miss what Dennis had to say in response to Kirk’s email.  Before we ended the program, Dennis mentioned his latest blog article about Apollo betrayed by the very people who made the Apollo mission happen.  You can read this article at http://denniswingo.wordpress.com.

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MIT Students Analysis of the Mars One Mission Plan, Tuesday, 11-25-14 November 26, 2014

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MIT Students Analysis of the Mars One Mission Plan, Tuesday, 11-25-14

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Guests:  Sydney Do, Koki Ho, Sam Schreiner, Andrew Owens.  Topic:  This program provides a comprehensive discussion of the Mars One Mission Plan by the MIT student team.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.  We welcomed the MIT team from the Department of Aeronautics and Astronautics to discuss their paper and work “An Independent Assessment Of The Technical Feasibility Of The Mars One Mission Plan.  Download their study at http://web.mit.edu/sydneydo/Public/Mars%20One%20Feasibility%20Analysis%20IAC14.pdf.  You can also download the Reddit discussion mentioned in the second half of our program at http://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/2irk1u/mit_study_predicts_marsone_colony_will_run_out_of.  In addition, check out the MIT Strategic Research Engineering Group at http://strategic.mit.edu.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 49 minute program, Sydney started with background on why the team undertook the Mars One Mission Plan analysis, told us their goals and objectives for doing the analysis, and the role that each team member played in examining the Mars One Mission Plan.  We addressed most of the issues brought to our attention by the MIT study, many in great detail.  We also asked the team about their feedback from the space community as well as Mars One. So far, they have not been in touch with Mars One though they did ask Mars One for information in doing their analysis but no reply was received.  What they have heard from Mars One to date has been through third party reports.  On the other hand, the public’s response has been both very good and helpful.  You will have a better understanding of this and the open source software the team used when you listen to Kirk’s call at the top of the second segment.  The MIT team did not seek out or interview any of the Mars One mission volunteers, advocates, or supporters.  Much was said about Mars One website claims that their mission could be done with current technology including technology used on the ISS.  The MIT team took a hard look at these claims and then evaluated the claims which fell short.  They explained the technologies, the TRLs, and why they fell short of Mars One claims and needs.  We also talked about the ever increasing launch mass every two years with a new crew, supplies, etc.  They showed how this was not sustainable and why.  We talked about the very high number of launches needed before the first crew ever got to Mars plus the increasing number of launches needed at each two year launch window using the Falcon Heavy and a modified Dragon as suggested by Mars One.  The number of launches and their close-in interval has never been done before, even on a global basis.  We talked about making parts on Mars with 3D printing but noted that was not a current technology but that it would evolve over time with no time line available as to when 3D printing could reduce launch masses on the resupply missions.  Much was said about growing crops on Mars, separating the crop environment from the human environment and why, the need for much larger crop space than suggested by Mars One, plus a host of other critically related issues revolving around CO2 and O2.  As you will hear, the logistics of the Mars One settlement are complicated, costly, and very challenging.  The MIT team also determined that it might prove cheaper to bring food up from Earth rather than trying to grow the needed food supplies on Mars.  The MIT team pointed out that the one way mission not only made the Mars settlement far more complex but significantly more costly given it does not have an ending point.  During both segments, our MIT guests pointed out many of the assumptions in play by Mars One, where they were able to work with Mars One assumptions, and when they had to go to the literature, including NASA, to work the problem.  In this segment, I asked out guests at what point would the Mars One settlement be independent from Earth.  Their answer might surprise you.  As the segment closed, a listener asked if they had read the book “The Martian” and what they thought of it.  A few team members had read it & they liked it.  Listen to what they said about that type of survival on Mars and how missions were plan to avoid such a predicament.

 

In the second segment, Kirk was first up with his call from Trinidad.  He talked about the plant models and open source files and the error the MIT team made which they briefly mentioned in the first segment.  This relates to a flaw in the open source program dealing with CO2 and O2.  It’s a good discussion which also took place offline with Sydney and Kirk.  The MIT team is working this problem and error.  This is important so do pay attention to the discussion with Kirk.  Food systems were talked about again with the team suggesting the colony would be better off bringing food from Earth.  INSITU Resource Usage was talked about as well as sustainability issues to get the settlement up to 12 people over several years.  Tim called in asking about a Mars One analog here on Earth and what drove the costs so high for Mars One.  Again, we heard the one way mission was a huge cost driver.  Tim also asked if the costs would be the same for a lunar settlement.  Surprisingly, our guests said the costs would be similar if the lunar settlement was a one way project as the same type of issues would then have to be dealt with just as is the case for Mars.  Our final call was from John in Montana who applauded the team for their realism.  He mentioned that the health of the crew on Mars was not considered but assuming the crew is healthy when it lands on Mars and can live their, as people age, their medical care and costs rise.  As we heard, no such analysis was made or considered for these issues or their ethical component which the MIT team brought up.  Here we learned that the main assumption was a healthy crew from landing on Mars all the way through the Martian settlement process.  Such an assumption is not realistic but to do the analysis, one has to decide at what level an illness or injury will be treated and at what level crew members will not get treatment.  As the team said, to answer these questions also requires a study of ethics.  In fact, given the extreme financial requirements for the mission plan and its continuation every two years, our guests were asked what would happen and who would pay to keep the Martian settlers alive if Mars One defaulted and could not come up with the needed funds to sustain the mission.  While our guests were familiar with this issue, it was not part of their study.  Nobody knows if governments would come to the rescue or if the Martian settlers would be left to their own survival efforts.  The MIT team said these types of ethical issues would need resolution for any Mars settlement mission. They also questioned if it would be sufficient to just sign informed consent documents that included their knowing there would be no rescue attempts for any reason.  They suggested the UN as the forum that might undertake this type of analysis and policy.  As the show was ending, our team was asked about animal food stocks brought from Earth.  Each of our guests offered us closing comments which you will want to hear.

 

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