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Dr. Eligar Sadeh, Tuesday, 5-19-15 May 20, 2015

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Dr. Eligar Sadeh, Tuesday, 5-19-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2476-BWB-2015-05-19.mp3

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Guest:  Dr. Eligar Sadeh.  Topic:  Public Private Partnerships for U.S. space launch systems, cis lunar development & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Eligar Sadeh back to the show to discuss his recent Astropolitics published article, “Report: Public Private Partnerships and the Development of Space Launch Systems in the United States.”  You can find this report on The Space Show blog for this particular program. During the first segment of our 92 minute program, Dr. Sadeh introduced us to the topic and the Report subjects which you can read on TSS blog.  He addressed the traditional aerospace contracting model, the problem with cost overruns which hurt the traditional model and some of the issues with fixed price contracts, especially with technology and commercial opportunities.  We talked about risk reward and he cited SpaceX and Orbital Sciences as examples of the success of the private public partnership type of arrangement.  In addition, Eligar suggested that such partnerships were supportive of developing programs such as space transportation services.  Other topics in the first segment included SLS, National Security Space, big science programs, planetary missions, and others that still use the traditional model.  Our guest introduced us to the Better Buying Power approach which he referenced several times during the show.  Tim called from Huntsville to talk about risk, profits, and cubesats.  Eligar then went into some detail about the competitive launch environment, specifically for national security payloads and how that is now changing and opening up.  Jake emailed us to inquire if Congress was fully on board with these new public private partnerships.  Jennifer wanted to know how international participation might change the public private partnership relationship.  Next, I asked Eligar to explain the Acquisition Death Spiral which was in Fig. 4 of his Report paper.

In the second segment, John from Ft. Worth was our first caller & he wanted to address the risk in a fixed price contract.  John and Eligar had an interesting discussion on controlling costs and risks so don’t miss it.  Later, I asked Eligar to explain the New Entrants Certification Guide (NECG) which was issued in 2011.  This document provides the guidelines for the competitive launch environment for national security and other launch competitors.  Our next caller, Doug, wanted to talk about public private partnerships beyond LEO, specifically the Moon.  Eligar talked with Doug about leveraging assets for the private sector, citing the ISS and a few of the commercial users as examples.  Both Doug and Eligar had a very interesting and comprehensive discussion on this topic which considered cislunar transportation, a lunar hab, possible commercial incentives to drive commercial involvement, and more.  Policy and leadership were part of this discussion as was the fact that there currently is no lunar hab, Lunar Cots, or cislunar transportation policy nor is one being considered.  After the discussion with Eligar ended, we used the balance of our time to discuss the likelihood of a fast moving lunar based Chinese space program influencing the US to fast track developing a lunar hab and cislunar transportation.  Prior to our discussion ending, I asked Eligar how listeners could get copies of the journal Astropolitics as Eligar is the editor for it.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  You can each Dr. Sadeh through me or his email address on his Report on the blog.

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Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Monday, 4-30-12 April 30, 2012

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Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Monday, 4-30-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1764-BWB-2012-04-30.mp3

Guest:  Robert (Bob) Zimmerman.  Topics:  Space X static test, Congress & commercial crew, Planetary Resources & space property rights.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed Bob Zimmerman back to the program to discuss today’s Falcon 9 static test, Congress & commercial crew, and the Planetary Resources announcements of last week.  Visit Bob’s website for more information, http://behindtheblack.com.  During the first segment, Bob talked about congress and its proposed treatment of commercial crew including down selecting the companies, reducing funding, and moving to the FAR instead of remaining with the Space Act Agreement.  Bob got lots of questions about markets in space and why commercial companies need government money in the first place.  In this segment, we also talked about the Falcon 9 static test today and its relevance for congress.  Bob targeted SLS for discussion. As you will hear, there was not much support for SLS among those of us listening to today’s program.

In the second segment, we talked about the Planetary Resources venture announced last week.  Part of our focus was on the 9″ space telescope, its likely uses and resolution.  We talked about it for asteroid finding and Earth imaging – with serious reservations.  Bob suggested that the real business for the company was in selling the space telescopes to customers wanting that product or service as the mining was still a decade or so out into the future.  In talking about the telescope, we discussed pointing, stability, resolution, being placed on the Moon, and less than ideal light coming from the asteroids.  In talking about space telescopes, we discussed Hubble and the JWST.  In other space news updates, Bob talked about Orbital moving Antares to the pad for its testing and there is an article on his blog about it being seriously over budget: www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/orbital-sciences-development-costs-increase-371291.  Another topic we discussed was the Chinese political system and its turmoil, also its economy and how this might impact their space program.  Bob had much to say about this as well as India and its space program which he said might prove to be the dark horse in space development.  Toward the end of this 2 hour 8 minute program, Michael Listner called in to talk about legal issues for Planetary Resources in their resource extraction stage of development, plus property rights, the Outer Space Treaty and even the impact of the Moon Treaty. Bob and Michael had a spirited debate about these issues, including the potential influence of the Moon Treaty and international customary law which Bob completely dismissed.  Michael has an excellent article on the subject at www.spacesafetymagazine.com/2012/04/26/commercial-space-leap-earth-orbit-legal-implications/.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog. You can reach Bob Zimmerman through his website.

Mark Sirangelo, Wednesday, 1-4-12 January 5, 2012

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Mark Sirangelo, Wednesday, 1-4-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1682-BWB-2012-01-04.mp3

Guest: Mark Sirangelo.  Topics:  Dream Chaser, hybrid rocket motors, human spaceflight & more.

You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomes Mark Sirangelo of Sierra Nevada Corp Space Systems to the program to discuss Dream Chaser, hybrid rocket motors, human spaceflight, space policy, budgets and more.  You can learn more about Dream Chaser at http://sncspace.com/space_exploration.php.  For those of you interested in learning more on the previous NASA HL-20 concept vehicle, visit www.nasa.gov/centers/langley/news/factsheets/HL-20.html.  We started our discussion by asking Mr. Sirangelo for a brief history and overview of Dream Chaser.  He talked about the lifting body design and the capabilities of a lifting body, including costs and reusability.  In response to questions he did say it was meant for LEO though later in the program he discussed the potential to scale Dream Chaser up if markets warranted it.  He was also asked to compare the Dream Chaser style of vehicle to a capsule.  Mark was asked about the choice of rocket, the Atlas V.  While he explained that choice, he also said Dream Chaser was rocket agnostic. Don’t miss his comments on the rocket question.  A listener asked him to clarify the current status with the SAA, the FAR, and a possible CCDEV 3 round of NASA support.  Mark said there would be a round three with a call for awards in February with winners announced later in the summer.  He talked about the companies going to the next level, the Critical Design Review (CDR) and what this means for NASA as well as the companies.  Mark talked about the switch back to the SAA but said at some point down the road, the FAR will likely be used, probably in the acquisition stage.  Again, you do not want to miss what he had to say on this important issue.  Yves from Canada asked about the launch abort system for Dream Chaser and its ability to land in places and the ocean instead of a designated runway.  We talked about test flights, the number of needed flights, and the view that testing is not based on the number of flights but on successfully completing the essential and needed testing/flight protocols.  In our second segment, Trent called from Australia and wanted to know more about the full history and struggles for Dream Chaser up to now.  This time around Mark provided us with a more comprehensive vehicle history.  We also talked quite a bit about the hybrid rocket motor so you will for sure want to hear this segment.  Mark was asked if the Dream Chaser hybrid was the same being used for the Virgin SS2 and he said essentially yes other than for size.  He was asked some more questions about his work on SS2 for Virgin but deferred those questions to Virgin .  Our guest received a few questions about the GAP, buying rides on the Soyuz, recent Soyuz issues, and speeding up the development of Dream Chaser.  Harry wanted to know about using Dream Chaser for various types of orbital space tourism, and much was said about certifying Dream Chaser as safe for human spaceflight.  Near the end, Robert wanted to know if Dream Chaser might be used for Point to Point travel.  John from Jersey City called to ask about multiple markets for Dream Chaser.  As our discussion was drawing to a close, our guest was asked about hypergolic fuels and reaction control systems and again about the thermal protection system.  Please post your comments/questions for Mark Sirangelo on The Space Show blog at the above URL.

Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Wednesday, 12-21-11 December 22, 2011

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Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Wednesday, 12-21-11

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1676-BWB-2011-12-21.mp3

Guest:  Robert (Bob) Zimmerman.  Topics:  Space Act Agreement, private compared to government space, Kepler planet discovery, bats.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign.  Merry Christmas to all of you from The Space Show.  We welcomed Bob Zimmerman back to the show for policy, news, and bat updates.  Make sure you visit his blog for interesting and timely news and posts, http://behindtheblack.com. We started our two hour discussion with Bob saying that NASA reverting back to using the SAA instead of the FAR was perhaps the most significant moment in space since the Apollo landings. Listen to his explanation which he talked about multiple times during the program. Do you agree?  In talking about the SAA, we also talked about the new NASA budget of $406 million for crew, including the amounts already allocated, leaving about $100 million less for the companies.  We talked about the need to have launch competition with at least two companies.  In addition, since NASA will “certify” the private HSF vehicles, we talked about what that might be like and the continued control over the companies by NASA.  As you will hear over and over again, Bob does not look favorably on government space programs and believes the future is to be found within the private sector.  Do you agree with Bob?  Another point Bob made in discussing the SAA was that it probably sounded the death knell for SLS.  Again, listen to what he had to say on this subject.  Kelly called in and sent us information about another effort to commercialize the remaining two space shuttles.  We talked about this and similar plans in detail.  The new Stratolaunch concept came up and Bob got a few questions about air launch and the performance gain from doing an air launch. Our discussion closed in the management team involved in the project as being a “dream team.”  In the second segment, we talked about the new Earth-like planet discoveries by the Kepler Space Telescope, including two in the habitable zone.  Later, we talked about human rating the Atlas and Delta rockets, and the DOD-ULA deal which may not happen.  Listeners asked Bob about the Russian space program in light of Phobos-Grunt, about SETI, and even possible one way missions to Mars.  Alistair asked about the possible impact on US policy makers if China was about to go to the Moon & establish a lunar base.  Later we talked about Telstar, ATT, airmail, and space politics..  We concluded with a bat update on White Nose Syndrome.  Bob suggested three areas to look for in 2012: the Falcon 9 launch, the test flight of Antares, and Virgin Galactic SS2 engine tests and flights.  Please post your comments and questions on The Space Show blog URL above.

John Batchelor “Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 12-21-11 December 22, 2011

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John Batchelor “Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 12-21-11

Special Guest:  Mike Gold, Bigelow Aerospace

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1675-BWB-2011-12-21.mp3

Guests:  John Batchelor, Mike Gold, Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  John Bachelor discussed Bigelow Aerospace and NASA’s deciding to go with the Space Act Agreement for continued commercial contracting.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign.  As many of you know, I have been doing a weekly eleven minute segment on the John Batchelor Radio Show with Mr. Batchelor on various space topics. Sometimes I appear with John as the only guest on the segment, at other times I co-host the segment with John and bring on board an expert in the subject being discussed. Mr. Batchelor has given The Space Show permission for these segments to be archived on The Space Show site and blog. Mr. Batchelor calls these segments “Hotel Mars” and they are targeted toward his significant live and podcast highly educated general audience. Find out more about the excellent John Batchelor Show and listen to his archived segments at http://johnbatchelorshow.com. You can hear the live stream of his show if it is not carried live in your radio market at http://www.wabcradio.com/article.asp?id=531472. For this segment of Hotel Mars, his special guest was Mike Gold of Bigelow Aerospace. John and I discussed the BA 330 expandable habitat with Mike, the need for commercial crew transportation to the ISS, and Bigelow Aerospace readiness were there available rides to space for Bigelow space stations, crew & passengers.  We talked about NASA’s decision to stay with the Space Act Agreement for contracting, NASA certification, and the allocation of the NASA commercial crew budget of $406 million, much of which is already allocated.  Other topics in this 11 minute plus segment included the Falcon 9, human rating the Atlas or Delta, and even international launch options if U.S. launchers are not available.  Please post your comments/questions on the blog.  If you want to send a note to Mr. Batchelor or Mike Gold, send it to me and I will forward it for you. Special thanks to Dr. Charles Lurio of the Lurio Report for suggesting this program to me.

Mark Bray, Monday, 12-12-11 December 12, 2011

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Mark Bray, Monday, 12-12-11

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1671-BWB-2011-12-12.mp3

GuestSearch:  Mark Bray.   Topics:  Aerospace engineering standards.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign.  We welcomed Mark Bray back to the program to discuss standards for NASA and the aerospace engineering field.  You can also check out Mark’s blog at http://braynstorms.com as was mentioned near the end of this two hour discussion.  Also, The White Paper referred to in our discussion, “Achieving Innovation and Affordability Through Standardization of Materials Development and Testing” can be downloaded from  http://braynstorms.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Achieving-Innovation-and-Affordability.pdf.  NOTE THAT MR. BRAY IS SPEAKING FOR HIMSELF DURING THIS INTERVIEW.  HE IS NOT SPEAKING FOR NASA, ANY CONTRACTOR OR ANY OTHER PARTY.  As we began our discussion with Mark, we talked about the situation at Marshall Space Flight Center (MSFC) and Huntsville in terms of projects, employees, moods, morale, etc.  Mark was comprehensive in his perspective, even talking about ATK, New Space and government procurement as well as the FAR.  Mark then shifted to standards and talked quite a bit about testing methods and why standards are needed.  Listeners asked about Space X and standards as well as Dr. Mike Griffin and standards at NASA when he was the administrator.  Later in the segment, we backed up and got Mark to explain the problems regarding standards or the lack thereof.  Later, a listener asked Mark for some examples.  One example he gave us was Henry Ford and standards at the early Ford Motor Company.  Toward the end of the segment, Mark started addressing liability issues along with fielding a question about the Dream Chaser vehicle.  In the second segment, we talked about government contracts and some oversight.  Mark explained testing in greater details and we asked why there would be opposition to standards.  Mark also raised the issue of why there was no PE title for aerospace engineers. You might be surprised by what he had to say about this.  During this segment, we again discussed liability protection for the developing companies.  Mark was very critical of putting energy into liability shielding and protection over standards. I supported Mark in his comments.  Make sure you hear this discussion which may prove controversial for many of you.  Near the end, I asked Mark about his fellow employees at MSFC and how they processed the economic news regarding the US and from around the world.  I wanted to know how the teams understood and applied to their jobs and profession the economic information and conditions in the country.  Don’t miss his pearls of wisdom closing comments.

Dr. Jeff Bell, Friday, 12-9-11 December 9, 2011

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Dr. Jeff Bell, Friday, 12-9-11

(Note: This interview aired live on 11/30/11)

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1669-BWB-2011-12-09.mp3

GuestSearch:  Dr. Jeff Bell.  Topics:  Phobos Grunt mission, space policy, commercial crew, rocket reusability & more.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign . Please note that this program was recorded live on Nov. 30, 2011 and is being archived today, Dec. 9, 2011.  We welcomed Dr. Jeff Bell back to the show for a wide ranging discussion on multiple topics starting with the troubled Russian Phobos Grunt Mission.  This Space Show  program is vintage Jeff Bell with something to say about most everything, hard hitting, critical, take no prisoners, and of course, thought provoking. Dr. Bell started our discussion talking about the Phobos-Grunt Mission.  To put it in context with Russian lunar & planetary missions, he gave us a brief history of the Russian exploration program starting in 1958.  This is an interesting history lesson you do not want to miss. In bringing the history current to Phobos Grunt, the problems faced by the Russian program seem a bit clearer.  We then talked about some of the many space blog comments with suggestions for rescuing or saving the mission and he totally debunked them.  Jeff mentioned shuttle rescues, X-37B rescues, even Virgin suborbital rescues.  He also mentioned some of the conspiracy theories out there (he spent more time on them later in our discussion),  finger pointing the blame for the mission problems.  Next, Dr. Bell addressed the recent SpaceShipTwo drop test that was a problem and he wasted no time in stating what is wrong with the SS2 design as well as what he said was a problematic track record for the project.  He also had much to say about the use of composites and fundamental design flaws.  Space debris issues came up and Dr. Bell referenced USA 193.  Terry called in to ask about the hydrazine and nitrogen tetroxide (NTO) or nitric acid on board Phobos Grunt. When we started the second segment, Dr. Bell again went over the conspiracy theories re Phobos Grunt that appeared in some news articles.  One he mentioned was the HARP theory which he debunked as well as the biological warfare theory.  We then talked about commercial crew and Dr. Bell said Congress does not want it to be successful and he explained why.  Near the end of this discussion, Trent called in from Australia.  He wanted to know at what point Jeff thought commercial crew was changing from maybe working out to going down for the count.  What was the turning point for our guest?  During their exchange, Jeff said that space travel was not politically important anymore, instead political pork was the priority.  Trent mentioned his blog, QuantumG, http://quantumg.blogspot.com.  Check it out for his comments on Space X, Commercial Crew and more.  Jeff read his Space X comments and then started discussing the Space X reusability plan.  As the program ended, we talked about the JWST and I asked Dr. Bell what part of the space program he liked, if any.  He did have something he liked, the science and robotic missions.  If you have a comment/question for Dr. Bell, please post it on the blog URL and I will make sure he sees it.