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Rand Simberg, Monday, 6-9-14 June 10, 2014

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Rand Simberg, Monday, 6-9-14

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Guest:  Rand Simberg.   Topics:  HSF safety, risk taking, our space dependency on Russia, and much more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Rand Simberg for a 1 hour 36 minute discussion regarding our HSF dependency on Russia, risk taking space safety, and more.  In our first segment, Rand talked about his book, “Safe Is Not An Option” (see http://www.safeisnotanoption.com), as well as his pointing out that what he said in his book about our growing dependence on Russia for our HSF is coming to pass.  This led to a discussing of the Sen. Shelby language in the proposed NASA funding appropriations bill to account for fixed costs in a similar way such costs are accounted for in the FAR.  Rand summarized his HSF safety comments by repeating one of his better known statements that many of us agree with, that is HSF is not important!  He discussed his meaning of this statement throughout today’s program.  Rand talked about HSF being worth the risk, 16 years of ISS and only now starting to do useful things, one of which he identified as an important drug project for curing MSRA.  This discussion prompted several listener emails including one from Jim asking if we were seeing the end of NASA/government HSF?  Tony asked Rand what he would favor were he the supreme space dictator of the country.  Rand suggested returning to the old NACA model.  Later, he said HSF is not a mature industry and compared to the 1920s airplane design as that is where spaceflight design is today.  He had much to say about safety as a priority and safety regulations.

In the second segment, Ben asked him about SpaceX being qualified for AF spy satellite launches.  I asked Rand about the Dragon V2 as he was present at the unveiling.  He went inside the capsule and shared his perspectives with us.  Space settlement came up and Rand received many email questions referring to it.  He was asked about SpaceX fast tracking Dragon V2 depending on what happens with the Russians.  We talked about influencing congress and Rand suggested writing to members of congress as the count is totaled by the members.  Given the overall low numbers for the space advocacy community, getting letters to congress is important.  Near the end of the segment, he was asked about Inspiration Mars and Mars One, he talked about the serious need for a gravity lab to determine the minimal gravity prescription.  Before our discussion ended, we talked about the NRC Pathways study on HSF and Mars.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog above.  You can contact Rand through his book website, Transterrestrial Musings (www.transterrestrial.com), or me.

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Classroom with Drs. John Jurist & Jim Logan, Tuesday, 12-17-13 December 16, 2013

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Classroom with Drs. John Jurist & Jim Logan, Tuesday, 12-17-13

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Guests:  Dr. Jim Logan, Dr. John Jurist.  Topics: This was a Classroom show on radiation issues for deep space travel, Mars and Moon settlements.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Dr. Jim Logan and Dr. John Jurist to this special 2.5 hour Space Show classroom in-depth discussion on space radiation. We focused our discussion on deep space, Mars, the Moon and BLEO missions. Note that on both The Space Show blog (see above) and The Space Show Classroom blog (http://spaceshowclassroom.wordpress.com),  Dr. Jurist has a Power Point presentation on radiation.  During the program, our guests referred to specific slides that you will want to check out.  In our first segment, Dr. Logan started out by telling us about his interest in the subject, why he has been writing a paper on the subject for publication, and how this Classroom show came about.  He cited our short duration spaceflight experience, the Apollo missions, Space Shuttle flights, and then how things started to change when we had six month ISS visits.  Dr. Logan also made it clear that space was not a benign emptiness type of environment.  He said the reality was that interplanetary space was a sea of disruptive ionizing radiation wrecking havoc on biologic systems.  We moved forward in our discussion from that point.  We talked about the findings of the MSL RAD instrument regarding radiation on the way to Mars and on the surface of Mars.  Both John and Jim spent some time putting the RAD numbers through analysis to let us know what this means for human missions to Mars.  We talked shielding, possible materials, passive and active.  We talked extensively about water and the use of hydrogen as well for shielding.  Our guests addressed the two types of radiation, the GCR (galactic cosmic rays) and the CME/solar flare.  Here, John suggested listeners look at his slide 13 as we talked about protons and neutrons.  Jim said there was no magic bullet and talked about shielding effects of Earth’s atmosphere.  Pay attention here as Jim introduced us to the  RP scale.  For being on the surface, he said nothing less than RP100 would suffice.  For the vehicle, an RP5 was required.  John introduced us to career limits for radiation for men and women astronauts of different age but the career limits are for LEO and not BLEO.  BLEO limits are expected to be more restrictive when made public in April 2014.  Earth Mars transit times were discussed, especially in the context of Brian’s email that suggested a 180 day transit time.  Both our guests said that was unlikely with chemical propulsion and all of us again stressed the need for nuclear thermal propulsion.  Microgravity was talked about, especially in the context of side effects due to the radiation environment.  Jim then brought up the EVA subject and spacesuits.  Briefly, Jim said that quite possibly the ISS construction represented the zenith of EVAs which may become a thing of the past.  Don’t miss why he said this plus his description of serious spacesuit limitations.  We talked about life support to Mars and here Jim suggested we should use Open Loop! Again, listen to the rational behind this recommendation.  Don’t miss what our guests said about theories & movies making it sound easy to go to Mars and that the radiation would be nothing more than just a few more cigarette packs a year.  Our last topic addressed informed consent issues.

In the second segment, I asked our guests for a readiness timetable were there sufficient funding and technology advancements.  I also inquired if Russia, China, and others assessed the radiation risks in a similar way to the U.S.  We then talked about radiation and space pregnancy, fetus development, birth, and informed consent for the fetus, a baby, and a child under 18.  Ethical issues regarding child birth and space pregnancy were talked about as well.  Curt had sent in email questions which our guests answered, especially about drinking irradiated water and microgravity DNA damage & what this may mean for radiation effects.  Next, I asked Jim and John to tell us their 2-5 steps for the start of designing a Mars human mission.  Jim went first and listed Day 1 and Day 2 activities, John listed his top three priorities which were different than those suggested by Jim.  Don’t miss this discussion as its very instructive as to how to do or at least start mission planning for a human mission BLEO.  Roger sent in a question asking if the crew should be senior citizens since they have more resistance to radiation.  Don’t miss what our guests said about this idea.  It may surprise you.  Our next topic was would going to Deimos be easier.  Yes, it would but it would be a very different kind of human  mission.  Jim had some great comments about Mars gravity.  Briefly, he said it was the “best.” Later, when asked to compare the Moon and Mars, our guests said lunar radiation was worse than Mars.  Also, the Mars atmosphere does provide limited shielding while there is no such thing on the Moon.  Jim had earlier talked about a sphere being the perfect shape for an interplanetary spaceship.  Shelia emailed in wanting to know if heavy lift made a difference and if the sphere was so good, why were capsules being used? Don’t miss the response.  We then talked about the complexities of rendezvous and docking, especially in the context of fewer launches (heavy lift) as compared to many more launches (smaller rockets).  Near the end, I asked our guests if either thought our nation, the public, NASA, our leaders and politicians were sufficiently motivated to do a human Mars mission.  Jim did not think so and had much more to say in reply to this question.  John was more pessimistic.  Both thought it was more likely that the private sector would mount a human Mars mission rather than our seeing a government mission, but raising the needed capital might turn out to be a show stopper.  The three of us then talked about what it was like growing up in the 40’s, 50’s, and 60’s as compared to today.  John and I (John is a bit more than 2 years older than me) were probably more harsh than Jim in our assessment of today, but we all realize that the younger generations will be taking us to space, building the next smartphone and more. I talked about my visits to Google, Apple, SpaceX, etc. and the excitement in the air in belonging in their work forces which does not seem to exist with NASA. This opened the door for Jim to put it on the line about his NASA experiences and the potential opportunities providing NASA can somehow reorganize.  He did not think the type of reorganization he was talking about would happen.  Both our guests left us with excellent takeaway points and concluding pearls of wisdom.

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Rand Simberg, Tuesday, 6-25-13 June 26, 2013

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Rand Simberg, Tuesday, 6-25-13

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Guest:  Rand Simberg.   Topics:  Rand’s new book release, “Safe Is Not An Option,” human spaceflight potential regulation.  Please direct all comments/questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments & questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright & are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those of you interested in the opportunity to submit feedback on the NRC congressionally mandated Human Spaceflight Study, please go to www.nationalacademies.org/humanspaceflight.   Please remember that your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm).

We welcomed Rand Simberg back to the program for this 1 hour 47 minute discussion regarding his about to be released book, “Safe is Not An Option.”(http://safeisnotanoption.com).  Check out the book summary: http://safeisnotanoption.com/book-summary.  During our first hour, Rand explained the production challenges he has had with the book, the name change from last fall, & delays. He compared similarities with a book printing production run to the launch/flight rate.  With both he said one needs to get the rate way up there for economies of scale.  For the balance of our discussion, we talked about human spaceflight risk taking, the regulatory environment of today, &  potential risks to this regulatory environment down the road after 2015.  Rand supports individual choice & believes that regulation regarding flight safety would be detrimental to this developing industry. The subtitle of the book makes Rand’s case:  “Overcoming The Futile Obsession With Getting Everyone Back Alive That Is Killing Our Expansion Into Space.” Jim emailed to ask Rand to compare the risk taken by Virgin & XCOR flight participants with risky terrestrial ventures.  Rand suggested this would depend on the informed consent documents required under current FAA regulations.  Trent asked about one way trips to Mars & Mars One.  This brought up the discussion of space ethics & the Mars One position of pregnancy & childbirth as an ethical issue, not a personal choice issue as is the decision to do a one way trip to Mars.  Rand stressed that his book has to do with people taking their own risk, not the government, regulators, or policy makers dictating risk taking.

In the second segment, we fielded several questions from Curt on risk taking & Congress, plus he asked Rand about the nomad gene.  Another listener emailed in a question focused on the role of the media in helping to make space important beyond the space community.  Another listener wanted to know if Rand could see a day where to avoid government regulation, private human spaceflight would take place outside the United States.  I asked Rand about feedback he has received regarding his book & thesis, his interest in a Washington, DC media event upon the book’s release, selling the book at the upcoming NewSpace 2013 Conference, & if in his research, he came across papers, books, or other works advocating similar positions to his. During the entire discussion, Rand repeated his understanding that space is not important to the policy makers.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog above. Rand can be reached through his own blog on the About page at Transterrestrial Musings at www.transterrestrial.com.

Dr. Alan Stern; Open Lines, Sunday, 3-24-13 March 25, 2013

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Dr. Alan Stern; Open Lines, Sunday, 3-24-13

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Guest:  Dr. Alan Stern.  Topics:  Golden Spike & the NSRC 2013 conference followed by Open Lines in the last hour.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed back Dr. Alan Stern for the first hour of this two hour program.  Dr. Stern first talked about his new company, Golden Spike, then he told us about the upcoming NSRC 2013 Conference.  Please visit these websites for more information:  http://goldenspikecompany.com; http://nsrc.swri.org.  Dr. Stern started by telling us about the Golden Spike company plan, goals, objectives, and time tables.  He talked about the technology, their business plan, pricing, who may want to buy the two seats to go to the Moon for $1.5 billion and what they might do on the Moon though that is the choice of the customer.  He talked about the number of launches needed based the specific launch vehicle to be used.  We also talked about the lunar lander, challenges to the mission, and the company financial needs.  Return payload requirements were mentioned which are 50 kilos at this time.  Questions were asked about EVAs and spacesuits, capsule life support, radiation, etc.  Dr. Stern also received questions pertaining to the future plans for Golden Spike and potential mission expansion plans.  As we approached the end of the first segment of the two hour program, we talked about the upcoming NSRC 2013 conference to be held from June 3-5 in Broomfield, CO.  Alan went through the logistics, keynote speakers & he talked about the potential impact of sequestration on the conference.  During our hour with Dr. Stern, he also talked about two Indiegogo programs underway.  The first  campaign Alan talked about re $1 for each mile to the Moon can be found at http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/golden-spike-is-sending-nations-and-people-to-the-moon-join-in.  Later, Alan talked about naming the closest exoplanet via Indiegogo.  Check it out at www.uwingu.com.

In our second segment, we went to Open Lines.  I talked about the recent set of astronaut panels at Rocky Mountain College and when they might be archived on Space Show websites.  I also went over the coming Space Show schedule.  Doug called to talk about sequestration and he had Space X, Falcon Heavy and reusable questions per our discussion with Dr. Stern.  Later, John from Atlanta called re Golden Spike, Inspiration Mars, and the NASA budget.  He also talked about the continuing resolution (CR) and did not think there would be much blowback on Congress or NASA budget and spending issues.  In our sequestration comments, we talked about the FAA closure of some controlled airports and the political use of the sequestration.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog above  You can email our guest or any of our callers through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Dr. Claude Piantadosi, Monday, 3-18-13 March 19, 2013

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Dr. Claude Piantadosi, Monday, 3-18-13

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Guest:  Dr. Claude Piantadosi.  Topics”:  We discussed Dr. Piantodosi’s book, “Mankind Beyond Earth,” human spaceflight, Mars missions, radiation, microgravity.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed Dr. Claude Piantadosi to the program to discuss his new book, “Mankind Beyond Earth: The History, Science, and Future of Human Space Exploration.”  If you buy the book using this Amazon URL, www.amazon.com/Claude-A.-Piantadosi/e/B001IU0QRS/ref=onegiantlea20, Amazon will contribute to The Space Show/OGLF.  During our first segment of this two hour discussion, we compared the space environment to the undersea environment, and live support and environmental issues with a nuclear submarine as opposed to what we have available today for space flight.  Our guest talked about the advantages of human spaceflight (HSF) over robotic missions, plus the contributions to advancing technology, science & our understanding of our own environment derived from HSF.  Radiation & microgravity issues were mentioned and listeners started asking detailed questions pertaining HSF and Mars missions.  Much of this segment focused the two planned Mars missions and the human factors challenges.  In addition to a comprehensive analysis from the medical perspective, listeners also pointed out that Inspire Mars would likely have indirect if not direct public money supporting the mission.  Most were less supportive of the mission if it included public money, direct or indirect.  Dr. Piantadosi talked about radiation & microgravity unknowns and variables. He also talked about our current time line for meeting human factors & life support challenges over the near term which was not good.

In our second segment, we talked about affordable space & how to achieve it. Heavy lift and SLS came up as did fuel depots and reusability.  A listener asked about older people being more radiation resistant or tolerant. Long duration spaceflight mental issues came up and our guest talked about them in the context of crew selection and training.  Procreation in space was discussed as was the mass needed for water radiation shielding.  Our guest suggested that since the shuttle retirement, our space program had lost its focus.  He said there were no plans to get us the next level of information needed for travel beyond the Van Allen Belts.  He also talked about a lunar first program to learn and get the needed information to go to an asteroid or Mars, suggesting this might be a 15-20 year research program.  In the context of lengthy missions, our guest addressed sequestration and the need for international projects and financing. When asked if the recently announced private deep space missions had an edge over public mission, he did not think so.  Don’t miss what our guest said about this.  In closing, he urged us to engage in critical reading and critical thinking about problems.  Space is essential & we need to move forward with it using a good development & exploration plan.

Please post your comments/questions for Dr. Piantadosi on The Space Show blog above.  You can reach our guest through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Mark Sundahl, Friday, 3-1-13 March 2, 2013

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Mark Sundahl, Friday, 3-1-13

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Guest:  Mark Sundahl.  Topics:  Commercial space law issues and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed Mark Sundahl back to the show to discuss current commercial space law issues, the recent FAA COMSTAC meeting, and more.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 24 minute discussion, Mark talked about the recent FAA COMSTAC meeting held in Washington, DC.  Mark focused on ITAR Reform in his summary.  He discussed the reform measures taken last year but said they have yet to be implemented.  Other topics in this segment included commercial space development, and the need for secrecy regarding space property rights issues for commercial space companies.  He used space mining as an example.  At one point he said it would be in a space mining company’s interest to keep all their mining research secret to avoid any possibility of the space age equivalent of “claim jumping.”  Listeners sent in emails to ask our guest about the Cape Town Convention which is an international space treaty.  Mr. Sundahl discussed the Cape Town Convention in some detail during the first part of the program.  As part of this discussion, we talked about satellite financing, the liability treaty, the sale and transfer of satellites or using them for collateral for financing and the potential impacts of this per the U.S. ITAR.  As this segment was ending, our guest addressed launch vehicle certification which may be required for operation in some European and foreign spaceports as compared to needing a launch license in the United State.

In the second segment, Carnival Cruise Lines and their limited liability waiver and informed consent contract clauses were brought up by a listener who heard me mention the subject on the last open lines program.  Mark had much to say about Carnival Cruise Lines as a potential indicator of what may happen with suborbital space tourism.  Our guest was asked about the recently announced Inspiration Mars mission and if U.S. government regulations could prevent such a mission.  Mark had much to say about human spaceflight regulations now and in the future.  We also talked about the developing cubesat industry and Mark offered some concerns around space debris issues.  As the program ended, we talked about new space law programs at various U.S. law schools and some differences and similarities with U.S. space and international space law.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog above  You can contact Mr. Sundahl through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Open Lines, Tuesday, 2-19-13 February 20, 2013

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Open Lines, Tuesday, 2-19-13

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Guest:  Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston.  Topics: Carnival Cruise lines & informed consent, space radiation, nanosat launchers, & much more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

     We started our one hour fifty-one minute Open Lines discussion by my throwing out some suggested topics which included recent USA Today polls on human spaceflight to Mars and informed consent using the recent Carnival Cruise Line cruise from hell as a possible indicator of what may happen in the space tourism industry.  Dave, our first caller, talked about the new efforts to create NTRs and have nuclear propulsion using tungsten as the fuel base. Dave had lots to say about the tungsten as well as traditional fuels.  I next read a listener email about an NCIS Los Angeles 2011 episode about satellite sale to a foreign party and ITAR,.  Next, we talked about another listener email calling our attention the SpaceWorks Nanosatellite Market Report, and then up next was the CNN interview with Bill Nye and the CNN anchor asking Bill if global warming was causing the NEOs and events like the Russian meteorite.  Thanks to Tim for sending in the URL for the interview which you can see and hear at  www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObU7awpJctQ.

     In our second segment, Pooley called in to support my informed consent and Carnival Cruise Line comments plus he again told us why he did not think the space tourism industry would be successful.  Charles also talked about the Russian meteorite and the need for a dedicated cubesat or nanosat launcher over and above flying small sats as secondary payloads. In addition, we talked about the Google Lunar XPrize and the absence of launch contracts for the ride to the Moon.  Tim called to talk about the nanosat launch industry, we talked about the upcoming Virgin Galactic1 small satellite launchers and deep space radiation and HSF.  The dedicated small sat launcher reminded me of an Oct. 13, 2008 Jurist Space Review article proposing a university consortium for such a launch system and the condemnation he got for his proposal.  Dr. Jurist called in to talk about his proposal and the response.  You can read his 2008 Space Review article here:  www.thespacereview.com/article/1228/1.  I also asked Dr. Jurist about Tim’s radiation comments and he explained this particular radiation issue to us. He also said there was a real lack of valid data points so much of what Tim, John and I were talking about was simply an unknown or extrapolated from data pools that may be quite different from those at the lower end of exposure.  In discussing this subject, Dr. Jurist talked about American radiation standards, astronauts as radiation workers, and the European standards.  At the end of the program, Tim called to talk about the Carnival Cruise Line incident and informed consent. Tim suggested tort reform with caps but also put forth a novel behavioral theory and I told him I would absolutely go on the five day cruise from hell to earn a million dollars!

     Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can email any of the participants in this program through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Doug Messier, Tuesday, 1-29-13 January 30, 2013

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Doug Messier, Tuesday, 1-29-13

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Guest:  Doug Messier.  Topics:  Spaceport America and Virgin Galactic informed consent, liability, & contract issues per www.parabolicarc.com & much more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.  We welcomed Doug Messier back to the program to discuss his reporting on Spaceport America and Virgin informed consent issues and possible contract issues.  We also talked to him about his management of Parabolic Arc, his possible expansion of the blog and even accepting guest contributors.  Check out his reporting and stories at www.parabolicarc.com. Our first subject was on Spaceport America and Virgin starting with Doug’s most recent post about possible Virgin rent payment disputes followed by the informed consent issues which may now have been resolved through negotiations with Virgin, the NM legislature, and NM trial attorneys.  We took listener calls and emails and as it turned out, the spaceport and Virgin story was controversial with listeners all over the board on these issues ranging from Charles who believes the spaceport and the industry are way ahead of their time to others who believe success will definitely prevail for the spaceport, Virgin and the industry.  Another issue discussed in the first segment was the hybrid rocket engine, possible Virgin problems with it, and related items. Doug shared his information with us on the subject and provided us with a brief history & overview on the hybrid engine.  We talked about powered test flights and the difficulty in doing these ventures given they always seem to be about two years away from operations.

     In the second segment, Doug told us about activities at the Mojave Air and Space Port including the construction for Stratolaunch.  Somehow we ended up again discussing hybrid engines and informed consent.  Doug was asked about Virgin and XCOR differences and he spoke as much as he could about the Lynx but said he was under NDA with XCOR as he is working on an XCOR book.  He seemed to favor the XCOR approach.  We talked about his future plans for Parabolic Arc. He is thinking of broadening it to other areas and accepting guest contributions.  I asked him about his visits to see the ATK five segment SRB tests and his thoughts on solids, ATK, etc.  He had much to say about it and SLS.  He continued talking about Mojave, I asked him if he had ever seen the Orbital L1011 and he told us about his tour of it and hearing Bill Weaver speak about his SR-71 breakup and survival.  A listener asked him about Interorbital out of Mojave, we talked about Dream Chaser, and more.

     If you have comments/questions for Doug, post them on The Space Show blog. You can email him through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Wayne White, Monday, 10-15-12 October 15, 2012

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Wayne White, Monday, 10-15-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1873-BWB-2012-10-15.mp3

Guest:  Wayne White.   Topics:  Space law, The Space Pioneer Act, property rights & commercial space development.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed Wayne White back to the program to discuss his proposal for The Space Pioneer Act (SPA).  His Power Point presentation on this Act has been uploaded to The Space Show blog.  Later in the program we talked about his new business venture, SpaceBooster, LLC.  Background on SpaceBooster has also been uploaded to The Space Show blog.  Mr. White started our discussion with an overview on his proposed SPA and the five United Nations treaties that generally control the behavior in space by all nations, including the issues of property rights, space salvage, and space mining.  Mr. White spent a considerable amount of time on this discussion, the Outer Space Treaty (OST) and the Moon Treaty.  Our guest then introduced us to the idea of “innovative financing” which is a type of tax being proposed in the U.N.  This prompted quite the discussion. Next, our guest took us to salvage law, the Law of the Sea Treaty, and the space asset registration lists with both the Air Force and the U.N. Transferring ownership title of space based assets was a major part of this part of the discussion, including reciprocity with similar laws that might eventually be enacted in other countries.  Atty. Michael called in and we had a mini-legal debate on these issues, the treaties, enforcement, and alternatives.  Wayne then introduced us to the Deep Sea Hard Mineral Resources Act as being relevant to parts of The Space Pioneers Act.

In our second segment, Wayne talked about the history of many of our laws consistent with what he proposes in his Act.  He said that 2012 was the 150th anniversary of the Homestead Act and he connected the benefits of the Homestead Act with what might happen in space with the SPA.  He also talked about the 1872 General Mining Act which then led him to talking about Article 2 of the OST.  Our guest was calling for the “use it or lose it” regime.  Space mining was discussed in this segment along with jurisdictional issues, both internationally and domestically.  Later in the segment, Wayne talked about his new business, SpaceBooster LLC.  You can find out more by visiting their website, www.spacebooster.com though Wayne did say the website is still under construction and being developed.  Near the end of the program, we talked about space tourism liability, informed consent, insurance, and the meaning of the term “spaceflight participant” as opposed to being a passenger.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can reach Wayne White, Atty, through The Space Pioneer Act presentation on our blog.

WWhite Space Pioneer Act SRR 6-5-12

SpaceBooster Corporate Resume

Michael Ciannilli, Leonard David, Tuesday, 7-17-12 July 17, 2012

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Michael Ciannilli, Leonard David, Tuesday, 7-17-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1816-BWB-2012-07-17.mp3

Lessons Learned from the Columbia accident & NASA’s human spaceflight experience

Guests:  Michael Ciannilli, Leonard David.  Topics:  Columbia lessons learned & human spaceflight safety issues.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed Michael Ciannilli of NASA to the program to discuss lessons learned from the Columbia accident & NASA’s history of human spaceflight. Leonard David of Space.com returned as a co-host for this program.  Our nearly two hour no break discussion started with Michael providing us with an historical overview of the Columbia accident.  We talked about the debris retrieval process & the fact that about 38% of Columbia was retrieved.  Michael was asked about surprises & among the many he mentioned, one in particular dealt with the tile & thermal impact showing burning on the inside & how that was a clue to what happened to Columbia.  Michael then listed several lessons learned.  When I asked if he could prioritize the items he mentioned, he said they were all important.  We talked about the Columbia Accident Investigation Board (CAIB), return to flight, incorporating lessons learned, & more.  Leonard asked about the idea of NASA HSF safety excesses & we asked Michael if lessons learned & HSF safety issues were shared with both the private sector companies & the Russians.  I asked Michael about educational outreach & he had some interesting things to say about the international internet audience as well as the local audience.  The subject of urban legends came up in the outreach discussion & we honed in on the idea of the possibility of a rescue mission.  You do not want to miss this important discussion.  Other issues discussed included the foam problem, Leonard asked about the “bone matrix” he saw in use at the CAIB hearings, & I mentioned the need to really know & understand the hardware given our recent intimate visit with Endeavour.  Cultural issues were a part of this discussion, including the risk of workforce lulls & the need to avoid complacency.  Michael cited tile issues as an example going back to STS 1 and studying all missions to really understand tile concerns.  One email dealt with NASA risk aversion & some space enthusiasts saying that to open the space frontier we need to “kill more people.”  Michael addressed these issues, going over the NASA mission & imperatives, their responsibilities, and the risks of all sorts of consequences coming to life.  We talked about individual worker responsibility and accountability with Michael giving us both NASA and personal insights into this subject.  We then talked about the balancing act required in weighing the risk trades of cutting costs, cutting corners, taking more risks, taking less risks, etc.  He suggested private companies will go through a similar process and talked about the consequences of decisions which can be devastating with the loss of a crew to the termination of a program or the loss of the company.  Michael explained the Criticality One status and what it means in the risk analysis process.  Another listener asked if shuttles still had life left in them at the time of retirement. The short answer was yes but don’t miss what Michael has to say about the condition of space shuttle fleet at the time of retirement.  Another issue discussed dealt with trying to find a lower cost way of operating shuttle and dealing with all their infrastructure without compromising safety.  Near the end of the program, we took a Southern California call asking about potentially different standards for government astronauts and private-sector astronauts.  I was asked to lead off with my opinion which I did from a business liability perspective, then Michael and Leonard discussed the subject. We had lots to say about informed consent, litigation, & the uncertainties inherent when involved in a jury trial.  As we were winding down the program, Michael provided us with his closing comments, then I added in my own comments that focused on the sports inspirational speaker, Ray Lewis, linebacker with the Baltimore Ravens, who gives a terrific inspirational speech to teams around the country, “Pissed Off For Greatness.”  You can find lots of information about this by using Google for his name or the speech title.  Essentially, this is about not accepting mediocrity in what you do & I extrapolated it to space.  HSF workers, regardless of being with NASA or any company as well as others involved in the space field cannot accept mediocrity.  Being pissed off for greatness implies that if you are not pissed off for greatness, then you willing to settle for being mediocre in what you do.  Michael, Leonard and I talked about this at the end of the program.  I hope you will concur with me that extrapolating this inspirational sports talk to space fits.  Michael closed us out by saying it takes courage to stand up and say something if you believe something is off or not right in the program.  He further said it takes a lot to challenge the bureaucracy and stand up but that we all have to do it when the situation arises.

Please post your comments and questions on The Space Show blog URL above.  If you want to email Michael or Leonard, do so through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com and I will forward it to the person of your choice.