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Dr. John Jurist, Sunday, 10-25-15 October 24, 2015

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Dr. John Jurist, Sunday, 10-25-15

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Guest: Dr. John Jurist.  Topics:  The Space Program of the 1960s.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Dr. John Jurist to present his popular talk, “The Space Program of the 1960s.”  I have uploaded to The Space Show blog his Power Point presentation that he uses with this talk  so be sure to visit it.  He refers to many of the Power Point slides during this two hour Space Show program, especially slides featuring historical pictures.  The specific URL for this program on our blog is https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2015/10/24/dr-john-jurist-sunday-10-25-15.  During the first segment of our two hour program, Dr. Jurist discussed the origins of our space program going back to the 1920s with Robert Goddard and his rockets, and even earlier to Tsiolkovsky with the rocket equation.  John then advanced the story through WW2, V2 rockets, the development of the hydrogen bomb, the creation of the NSF, then on to Sputnik and the eventual launch the first American satellite.  During this overview, Dr. Jurist received many listener questions as well as questions from me so this is quite the comprehensive discussion.  John also pointed out the interest in space from the public which drove media coverage.  He referenced Walt Disney, von Braun’s popular work, sci fi films, & Colliers Magazine articles.  He mentioned several stand out events such as JFK’s Rice University speech, the Apollo 1 fire and then Apollo 7 which contained thousands of human spaceflight safety advancements and improvements and the testing of many of those advancements with the Apollo 7 flight.  A listener asked about nuclear propulsion and NERVA.  This resulted in a phone call from Dr. Dewar who continued the discussion with nuclear propulsion but advanced it to include the development cryogenic systems to support the H bomb and then these systems making their way to NASA.  John and Jim had much to say about the H bomb and space development connections so don’t miss this discussion.  By the way, Dr. Dewar is returning to The Space Show on Dec. 6.  John talked about the biomedical advancements in aviation that contributed to safer HSF. Here, he mentioned the work by Dr. John Paul Stapp and others, especially out of Holloman AFB in New Mexico.  Don’t miss this discussion or the relevant PPT slides.

In the second segment, John from Ft. Worth called to continue the discussion about the H-bomb and space connections, huge airplanes to deliver the large bombs and the later development of compact warheads which lead to the use of smaller missiles.  They also compared these advancements to the Soviet Union program of the day as the soviets used a different system for the bomb which resulted in it being smaller than the initial American weapons.  The two John’s continued talking about cryogenic development.  Dr. Jurist then advanced the discussion to the economic benefits of space development and how space has advanced the standard of living for everyone on the planet.  Some side discussion topics including space and former V.P. Spiro Agnew, space shuttles, Skylab, and bone metabolism resulting in the DEXA scan.  Dr. Doug called in to talk about baby boomers and the creation of graduate students in STEM and non-STEM fields.  He also asked if a DEXA scan could be made small enough to go to the ISS for real time measurements.  Dr. Jurist offered an easier way for those real time studies.  Several listeners asked Dr. Jurist if we could recreate this type of program today.  John said he was doubtful, especially given the IRB would likely have a total fit with self-experimentation.  He spent more time on the Apollo 1 fire, then he got questions about the opportunity cost of space development asking if we would not have had the same advancements if not more had we spent the money on programs other than space.  Don’t miss how John responded to this question.  Another listener pointed out emergency and trauma medical advancements as a result of recent wars and asked our guest if those advancements would have come about had it not been for the recent wars that helped develop these new treatment protocols.  Again, don’t miss how Dr. Jurist responded to this question.  As our program was ending, Dr. Jurist offered concluding comments that you will certainly want to hear and consider.

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Michael Mackowski, Tuesday, 7-28-15 July 29, 2015

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Michael Mackowski, Tuesday, 7-28-15

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Guest: Michael Mackowski. Topics: Space Advocacy past, present, and in the future. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed Michael Mackowski to The Space Show to discuss his book “Adventures in Space Advocacy,” space advocacy in history through to the future, spacecraft model building and much more. During the first segment of our 90 minute program, Michael talked about growing up as a “child of Apollo” and being inspired by our early space program. He went on to get an EE degree and to work in the industry. He said it was an exacting time, especially when the Galileo Jupiter mission finally happened. He talked about the start of organizations such as L5, The Planetary Society, AIAA, and his own early ventures into space advocacy which are detailed in his book, available at Amazon at www.amazon.com/Adventures-Space-Advocacy-Personal-Activism/dp/1511564911/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1438189701&sr=8-1. He talked about moving, heading to Phoenix and engaging in space advocacy once again after a brief pause when he was in Washington, DC. This led us to a discussion about individual advocacy efforts as compared to group or organizational efforts. Michael was asked how he has sold human spaceflight to a general audience, his most receptive audience, and lobbying congress. Our guest spent some time discussing the challenges in advocating human spaceflight to the general public so don’t miss this discussion. Space tourism came up as a probable kick starter once the industry starts commercial operations. Michael thought that space tourism could provide a crucial boost for industry support even outside the space community.

 

In the second segment, we talked about Michael’s interest in spaceflight models. If you visit his website, www.space-city-mike.net, you can click on scale models on the right side menu bar (http://space-city-mike.net/modeling). Michael described the industry, licensing challenges, specialty model builders and more. He also talked about using models in the form of make and take kits when talking to young students about space. Model building through 3D printing was discussed, then I switched the topic to inquire about his success in outreach with adults and children. He said 5-7th grade was the best group to talk with as high school was probably too late. As for speaking to adult groups, he said it was usually about entertainment but that it seldom produced advocacy action on the part of the adults hearing the talk. I seconded that experience given my talks with adults on space this and that. Near the end, we talked trends, the increasing influence of social media, passion, and connecting pace to our future.

 

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Rand Simberg, Bill Simon, Monday, 7-20-15 July 21, 2015

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Rand Simberg, Bill Simon, Monday, 7-20-15

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Guests: Rand Simberg, Bill Simon. Topics: July 20th celebration, Evoloterra.com, U.S. space policy. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. We welcomed back Rand Simberg and Bill Simon to the show to discuss the importance of July 20, 1969, our having landed on the Moon leaving Earth behind, and their ceremony, Evoloterra (www.evoloterra.com). During the first segment of our 1 hour 26 minute program, Bill and Rand talked about the creation of the Evoloterra ceremony, what it signifies and what it honors. They talked about the importance of storytelling and why they modeled Evoloterra on the Passover Seder. Both guests talked about the importance of leaving Earth’s gravity well for the first time for another planet though later Rand offered a correction to that statement since the Moon orbits Earth and the Apollo crew was always in the sphere of influence of Earth. Rand said going to Mars would be the first time humans will have left the influence of our home planet. This discussion covered a large part of the first segment. Next, we got into space policy and theoretical discussions such as what the world would be like, including US space policy, had the Soviets beat us to the Moon and established a permanent lunar base there. Both our guests offered speculative views of alternative time lines & realities had something like that actually happened. Getting into the Evoloterra relevance today, Rand took the lead and had much to say about our current space policy, how we should be doing things and why we should not be trying to recreate Apollo. In addition, our guests talked about going to Mars and at one point it was said that there was probably no path to Mars without going through the Moon. We talked about the press conference today announcing the new Return to the Moon plan. You can download and read the plan at www.scribd.com/doc/272096719/NexGen-report-on-leveraging-commercial-rockets-to-return-to-the-moon. Rand had interesting comments about it though given it had just come out a few hours before our show today, none of us had yet read the 100 page plus report. However, It will be the subject of our next Open Lines show. Rand made several points that doing great things in space did not have to come about due to a policy based on war, referring to Apollo and the Cold War. Skipping over to the second segment, we talked about previous reports regarding space policy and Rand noted that these earlier reports did not advocate a national policy for space settlement. We then discussed space settlement for a good part of this segment, with our guests explaining why it should be our national policy. For future missions, Rand kept saying they did not have to be based on battles and wars. Bill said we needed the challenges & to win. Several catalyst type events were mentioned including asteroid threats. Rand talked about addressing many issues including space mining, property rights and affordability. Both guests offered excellent closing comments, don’t miss them. Post your comments/questions on TSS blog above. You can reach Rand and Bill through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Dr. Chris Impey, Friday, 4-17-15 April 18, 2015

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Dr. Chris Impey, Friday, 4-17-15

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Guest:  Dr. Chris Impey.  Topics:  “Beyond: Our Future In Space” plus many space policy issues and our future in space.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed back Dr. Chris Impey to the program for this 63 minute program discussing his latest book “Beyond: Our Future In Space” and related policy, economic, and technical space questions.  Visit his website, www.chrisimpey.com for more information.  Please remember if you buy his book through TSS/OGLF Amazon portal, Amazon will donate a percentage of the sales price to The Space Show.  Instructions are on the website and all archived show summaries.  We began our discussion with Dr. Impey providing us with the background to his latest book in that many people believe that our space program is in the doldrums, that NASA is beset with many problems and for some, they wonder why even bother with space.  Dr. Impey wanted to show the audience that this was not the case so he wrote his latest book to show the benefits of space development and why we must have a future in space.  The book mostly focuses on the human spaceflight potential but we discussed science missions and a space program that would be much broader than just human spaceflight.  He also said the new industry was ready to go viral but had not done so yet.  He suggested some dramatic events might be the turning point in changing the momentum so don’t miss what he had to say about this.  We talked about NASA and NewSpace and he said it was no longer either or and that NASA was now partnering with NewSpace companies and the private sector.  Dr. Impey highlighted the growth in the cubesat industry as an example of things changing.  We talked about international space missions and he mentioned both Russia and China.  With regards to China, ITAR was discussed as was the potential militarization of space.  A listener asked our guest about an economic model and he said that was still troubling.  He thought mining asteroids would not be viable if at all for a very long time.  Listen to his explanation behind this conclusion.  On the other hand, he thought space tourism was shaping up to have a robust market and was optimistic that the companies would soon be flying.  I asked him for his five year timeline for big events.  He listed operations with SpaceShip2 and Virgin and that SpaceX will commercialize reusability.  He also expected to see fleets of commercially operating nano and microsats.  Next,, he said the Moon or Mars was harder with people and that would take place over the next 10-15 years.  He suggested China would visit the Moon with taikonauts in about a 15 year time frame.  He said the Moon would happen when we have a new generation of talent and innovative people pushing it at the ground floor level.  Listener Larry asked him about the regulatory risk.  He thought it would be relatively stable as it is now.  BJohn asked him about planetary science, astrobiology, geology, and biology along with the Big Bang Theory.  Next, we discussed astronomy, including Earth astronomy but also exoplanets and the habitable zone.  A listener asked him about finding life on Mars, either past or present and how that might impact the public with supporting space.  Chris had very interesting comments about this so don’t miss them.  Another listener asked him for his preference in destinations, the Moon or Mars.  He said the Moon.  Listen for the why.  Space settlement was discussed, more on the NASA budget and a question came up about the use of nuclear propulsion.  Near the end of the show he was asked about efforts in pursuing Faster Than Light Travel (FTL) and warp drive.  He was not optimistic in this area.  As the program was ending, I asked our guest how university teaching had changed over the course of his career.  This led us to talking about student loans and university funding from the state and federal government.

 

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Gerald Driggers, Monday, 11-3-14 November 4, 2014

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Gerald Driggers, Monday, 11-3-14

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Guest:  Gerald Driggers.  Topics:  Mars Settlement, The Earth-Mars Chronicles  book series.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Gerald Driggers to the program to discuss his theories about Mars settlement but his science fiction book series Earth-Mars Chronicles.  You can find out more about his work and books by visiting http://earth-mars.com.  During the first segment of our 100 minute program, Mr. Driggers talked about his early interest in space exploration, his early work in the industry & then his becoming a space age dropout as he described it.  He told us why he embarked on the Earth-Mars Chronicles series.  Listeners sent him email questions asking him why Mars was so important & why it should be the choice for human settlement off the planet.  Gerald responded to these early “why” questions.  A listener asked if he would do a one way mission to Mars. You might be surprised by his answer.  Next up was Mars One given Gerald was one of the early supporters of the organization.  Gerald had much to say about Mars One and the Mars One model for humans to Mars.  He also discussed other HSF to Mars Models but their was lots of listener interest in discussing Mars One with our guest.  Later, Gerald said we would need to be at the Technical Readiness Level 7 (TR7) to go to Mars, be it the private sector or with the government.  June emailed to ask about the minimum viable size for a Martian settlement,  including genetic screening.  Evon emailed about landing large payloads on Mars & how Gerald addressed that problem in his books.  Gerald  brought up the need for humanity to be off Earth in case Earth is destroyed so I asked him if we needed to be in a hurry to develop an off Earth presence on Mars.  Our guest suggested it would be a very long time in coming as there was no forcing function for HSF to Mars, nor is fundamental research being done regarding human survival on long duration spaceflight trips.  Doug called to ask about the economic justification for settlements on Mars & to ask if the Moon was not a better and more economic choice than Mars.

In the second segment, Kirk from Trinidad phoned in to ask about the online presence for Mars One.  We also asked him about space in Trinidad and if it was a hot topic or area of interest.  More emails came in & Christine wanted to know what was next for Gerald in Earth-Mars Chronicles.  Tony wanted to know if there was a spiritual component to HSF to Mars.  Our guest responded in the context of religions.  Judith’s note  inquired if one of greatest blockades to space exploration were the entertainment options today including video games, computers, & other forms of entertainment.

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Amnon Govrin, Friday, 10-31-14 November 1, 2014

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Amnon Govrin, Friday, 10-31-14

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Guest:  Amnon Govrin.  Topics:  We discussed our guest’s op-ed, “Is Microsoft the NASA of Software Companies.”  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Amnon Govrin to the show to discuss his thoughtful op-ed, “Is Microsoft the NASA of Software Companies.”  You can read this op-ed at http://www.spacepirations.com/2014/10/is-microsoft-nasa-of-software-companies.html.  During the first segment of our 100 minute discussion, Amnon shared his background with us and what led him to write this article.  He listed attributes of both organizations that made them similar, plus he provided his own background as a space enthusiast as well as working in the software industry and in recent years for Microsoft.  To establish the groundwork for his article, he talked to the amazing things both organizations have done as well as the innovations they have brought to not just the industry but to humanity.  He was asked about differences with one being a private company and the other a government agency plus he addressed politics which he said were plentiful for both organizations though different.  He looked at historic big projects for both organizations & the innovation of such projects.  He suggested common traits including research and technology.  Amnon talked NewSpace, also he went back to the early days of our space program with rockets and hardware, then he did the same with some of the Microsoft early projects and products.  Another topic in this segment dealt with layoffs for both organizations, consolidations, and positioning their respective organizations for the future.  He said the verdict was out on the success in doing this for both organizations.  Our guest talked about and  identified what he referred to as Black Sheep, a section of his op-ed.  Black Sheep referred to products and projects that don’t make it for one reason or another.  He said both NASA and Microsoft had a history of many Black Sheep projects and products and he identified a few including Vista and Constellation.  Michael Listner called to talk about the denaturalized approach of both organizations.  Amnon and Michael has much to say about decentralization.  About this time, we started getting breaking news information regarding the Virgin SpaceShip2 accident. We continued to report breaking news on this story during the rest of our program.

In the second segment, in addition to the breaking news reports, we talked about both organizations becoming stale meaning irrelevant, heavy, and even wasteful.  Again, our guest cited many examples for both organizations.  More interruptions took place over the Virgin accident story and news, then we moved to the conclusion section of the last segment.  He talked about the difficulty for both organizations going into the future and what may impact the future of both Microsoft and NASA.  For NASA, he mentioned NewSpace.  Then we talked competition and for NASA, he mentioned the private sector launch industry as this competition may force changes in the way NASA does thing.  He questioned if innovation was in decline.  In the final minutes of the program, I asked our guest for his 5 year view for both Microsoft and NASA.  We also talked Astronauts for Hire as our guest was a co-founder of the organization.

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Leland Melvin, Friday, 10-3-14 October 4, 2014

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Leland Melvin, Friday, 10-3-14

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Guest:  Leland Melvin.  Topics:  Spaceship Earth Grant contest, The Overview Effect, space exploration, STEM.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed former NASA astronaut Leland Melvin to the program to discuss Spaceship Earth Grants (SEG) (www.spaceshipearthgrants.com) as Leland is the president of the organization.  This program was a one hour show so there was no break as we had just one segment.  Mr. Melvin started out by telling us about SEG which he said was formed to do good in the world.  He talked about their contest for raising money to send people to space so that they will experience an orbital shift in perception (The Overview Effect) and upon return, do work and good with this new perspective of Earth.  They want this new perspective shared with others for the benefit of all.  He talked about the application for the contest and the fee structure which you will find fully explained on their website so see the above URL.  Leland explained that this was a crowd funding program though not like others that use specific crowd funding program such as Kickstarter or Indiegogo.  We also learned from a listener question that the contest winners will choose their own carrier for going to space and will need to comply with the rules & conditions set by that particular carrier.  Later, he mentioned that they would have a spaceflight training academy but details would not be announced until later in October.  The contest involves paying a fee which is on a sliding scale, submitting a video and writing an essay on why you want to go space.  I asked our guest why the average person needs to go to space.  Leland spent some time responding to this question so don’t miss this crucial discussion.  Leland was asked if students on a global bases seemed interested & inspired by space when he spoke to them.  He said yes & told us a great story about what happened with a Brooklyn student who slept through his talk.  We talked about international space cooperation, specifically with the Russians even when our non-space relationship with Russia was at a low point.  Regarding their contest, Leland talked about some of the benefits early adopters get by filling out an application, submitting the video, essay, and fee.  A listener asked if they would market their space flights for adventure as do the space tourism companies or are they only going after the change in perspective & Overview Effect benefits.  I asked Leland if he had experienced the Overview Effect on his two Atlantis flights. The same question was asked about his astronaut peers.  Leland had much to say in response to this question because when he went to space, he was not familiar with the Overview Effect but told us that what he experienced was the Overview Effect without putting a name to it.  Later in the program, we discussed SEG being founded on the principles of Muhammad Yunis, then Leland was asked by Kristin if SEG would focus on space settlement as well as tourism.  We learned that the organization was accepting applications from 156 countries.  In his summary, our guest talked about civilizations coming together through space, the orbital shift in perspective by just being in space, and the need to fund STEM programs/students.

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Howard Bloom, Monday, 1-20-14 January 21, 2014

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Howard Bloom, Monday, 1-20-14

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Guest:  Howard Bloom.  Topics:  Space policy, leadership, private space, SLS, SSP, Space Development Steering Committee & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Howard Bloom back to the show for this two hour 6 minute complex space policy, leadership, commercial space and more discussion.  During the first segment, Howard worked us into discussions about space and pop culture, space leadership and policy issues, commercial and private space issues, and the SLS as representative of extreme pork taking down the space program.  This conversation included many side tracks including space art for inspiration, Von Braun, Chesley Bonestell, and more.  We talked about The Space Development Steering Committee, their focus on private space as well as space solar power (SSP).  As you listen to this program, you will realize this is not an ordinary Space Show discussion on these topics as Howard brings to us very unique and very broad important perspectives with important information.

In the second segment, Chuck Lauer called in to talk about the Darpa XS1 suborbital program and his company submission.  Later, Howard talked about Dragon and Cygnus plus the significance difference between the two.  He advocated for fuel depots and space infrastructure.  I asked Howard about a timeline for realizing the development/implementation of the project he was talking about.  He also talked about the ISS, Mars, Phobos, and L1.  Near the end of the discussion, Howard talked about his two Kindle books available on Amazon, “How I Accentually Started the Sixties” and “The Mohammed Code:  Why a Desert Prophet Wants You Dead.”

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog.  Howard provided his social media and email address during this show for contact and for joining The Space Development Steering Committee.

Dr. Taylor Dark, Tuesday, 11-5-13 November 6, 2013

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Dr. Taylor Dark, Tuesday, 11-5-13

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Guest:  Dr. Taylor Dark.   Topics:  Space advocacy per his chapter “Reclaiming The Future: Space Advocacy And The Idea Of Progress.”  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Dr. Taylor Dark to the program to discuss his chapter on space advocacy, “Reclaiming The Future: Space Advocacy And The Idea Of Progress.” Dr. Dark’s chapter appeared in a NASA book around 2007, The Societal Impact of Spaceflight.  The .pdf version is a free download at http://history.nasa.gov/sp4801-part1.pdf.  You can read Dr. Dark’s chapter at www.taylordark.com/NASA%20Chapter.pdf.  For more information about our guest, please visit his website, www.taylordark.com. I urge you to read Dr. Dark’s chapter before listening to this program.  During the first segment of our 2 hour 1 minute discussion, Dr. Dark told us about his space advocacy background given that he started the first high school L5 organization when he was around 14 years old.  From there, we talked about aspects of space advocacy and specific personalities such as Dr. Zubrin and Taylor’s early fascination with O’Neill colonies.  He then described his shift to a different view of advocacy during his undergraduate college days.  Taylor went into detail about advocacy being connected to the idea of progress for humanity and listed three major space advocacy claims: (1) No limits on growth or human capacity; (2) All good things go together meaning elements of progress are linked together & are reinforcing; (3) Innate Directionality meaning progress is always probable.  He discussed these claims on air but he goes into them in detail in his chapter.  The utopian or messianic view of some advocates was discussed.  Dr. Dark also pointed out that space advocacy was not the only outlet for science, progress for humanity, etc.  Next, he talked about the frontier idea which he said was a weak argument.  He cited many national experiences that had had no frontier and have done well with their space program.  A listener asked our guest for his three top space arguments which were space exploration for more understanding of the universe, planetary defense of potential NEO hits, & commercial activity that was really profitable.  John called in to talk about the need for low cost space access and RLVs which would in turn cause space advocates to engage in lots of potentially profitable ventures. 

In our second segment, Doug called to talk about the probable costs of the O’Neill vision including the lunar base, SSP, & the habitat.  He suggested space tourism was a potential scalable profitable venture and he talked about space and lunar settlement.  Doug also talked about propellant in Earth orbit and satellites from LEO to GEO.  I spoke with Doug about project financing and how commercial or public sector project viability is analyzed which was different from what Doug talked about.  Taylor suggested that advocates don’t typically engage in something like project financing, instead opting for solutions that fit their advocacy agenda.  Taylor talked about the challenges of many advocacy claims including HE3 and fusion and the need for large space settlements.  As we were ending the discussion, Taylor was asked about the possible impact of microbial life being discovered, past or present, or ET.  We also talked about advocacy for inspiration & education and the impact of the Chinese program on advocacy and civil/commercial space. 

Please post comments/questions on The Space Show blog above. Dr. Dark can be reached through his website.

Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson, Friday, 3-8-13 March 9, 2013

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Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson, Friday, 3-8-13

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Guest:  Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson.  Topics:  Dr. Tyson’s book, “Space Chronicles: Facing The Ultimate Frontier,” delusional thinking, space exploration, space economic power.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed backed Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson to this 60 minute discussion about the new release of the paperback version of his current book, “Space Chronicles: Facing The Ultimate Frontier.”  If you buy the book with this Amazon link, Amazon will make a contribution to The Space Show/OGLF:  http://www.amazon.com/Space-Chronicles-Facing-Ultimate-Frontier/dp/0393343626/ref=onegiantlea20.  The book is a collection of all of Dr. Tyson’s thoughts about the past, present, and future in space.  It consists of essays, tweets, op-eds and more, plus an appendix with important documents such as the original agreement creating NASA in the late 1950s.  Neil said that some of the points he made in the book were that space was expensive and that we do things in space for one of two reasons: 1.  As a result of military threat or war; 2: In support of economic growth of the country.  He then supported his argument with historical facts, making the point that we do not explore for the sake of exploring, that exploration is not in our DNA, that we do not go into space to inspire future generations of kids, and then he even mentioned that the famous JFK Rice University speech which he said was a lie in that weeks before in a speech before Congress, President Kennedy put forth the real reason we were going to the Moon which was to show the world a path of freedom over tyranny.  Dr. Tyson documents this on p. 192 of his book by saying that “Kennedy did adopt a military posture in his speech to Congress.”  Neil stressed this point during our discussion in support of the above reasons for developing.  More about this speech can be found at www.history.com/this-day-in-history/jfk-asks-congress-to-support-the-space-program.  The actual text of the speech can be seen at www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/xzw1gaeeTES6khED14P1Iw.aspx.  Dr. Tyson also talked about the problem of delusional thinking among space enthusiasts, a theme we went back to several times during our discussion.  Another point he made was about the importance of innovation and having a culture of innovation with space goals supporting the economic growth of an innovative nation.  Kelly asked a question about the best way to increase NASAs budget in bipartisan support of space for STEM, inspiration, spin-offs, etc.  Our guest said all of the reasons cited in Kelly’s question were irrelevant.  Don’t miss what he said.  We also talked about the need for infrastructure and Neil said that governments have to pave the way for the frontier and the private companies follow and economically develop it.  He said the commercial companies do not and will not be able to open the space frontier with the needed infrastructure.  I then depicted government as sort of an advance man in space with the privates being able to capitalize that infrastructure development for profit & national wealth. A listener asked about China, a space race, and a possible space war.  Dr. Tyson also said that we should have launch vehicles that go everywhere for research and innovative reasons and we needed to shift our culture to seeing space as a long term national investment for creating wealth for the nation, far beyond the term of our elected officials.  He talked about SpaceX and the need for a rich and fertile collaboration between government and the commercial companies regarding space.  I asked our guest about testifying before Congress. You will want to hear what he had to say about that based on his experiences in do so.  We talked about space and grass roots movements. He talked about GDP economic growth during the Apollo period and then what happened each decade after that through the current period.  Jim sent in a question pointing out possible contradictions in his comments & suggested fuel depots as a way to minimize the quantity of rockets and launches. Dr Tyson said he was hardware agnostic and that in developing infrastructure and paving the way for the privates in space, fuel depots might very well be part of infrastructure but that government would be doing them, especially early on.  Later, Dr. Tyson talked about our system being a political system and that it was not going to change.  He used this as one of the examples of delusional thinking given many enthusiasts who don’t accept this reality & believe they can bypass or work around the political nature of our government and systems.  Near the end of our discussion, he was asked about the Inspire Mars mission which he said was probably a stunt but that it might serve the purpose of showing the government that lots of people are interested in an HSF to Mars.  Another listener wanted to know if the Inspire Mars mission turned out bad, would it derail human spaceflight.  He did not think it would do that given other space accidents with the loss of crew.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog and I will call them to the attention of our guest.