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Darren Charrier, Tuesday, 5-5-15 May 6, 2015

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Darren Charrier, Tuesday, 5-5-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2468-BWB-2015-05-05.mp3

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Guest:  Darren Charrier.  Topics:  Darren’s SEDS projects for a 3D printed engine, lunar lander, 6U cubesat communications unit, HE3 lunar mining & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed UCSD freshman aerospace engineering student Darren Charrier to the show to discuss his UCSD SEDS projects including building a 3D rocket motor and a 6U cubesat communications center for their lunar lander. Make sure you see the video of his TED talk, www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9umkenQDoY.  In the first segment of our 1 hour 27 minute program, Darren started off explaining his interest in space, the Moon, and mining lunar HE3 to solve energy problems around the world.  He also explained why he decided to attend UCSD over other aerospace engineering schools.  We then got into the specifics of the three SEDs projects being worked on at UCSD by Darren’s team, the 3D printed rocket motor which was an existing program before Darren came to UCSD, plus the lunar lander and the 6U cubesat lunar orbiting communications satellite needed for their lunar lander.  The group intends to ride share to the Moon but it was too early to announce anything specific about that.  The timeline is by Darren’s graduation from UCSD in approximately four years.  We also learned that the 3D rocket motor will enter the competition later this summer in Green River, UT (we usually do a Space Show program on this event once the winners are known), plus their 6U cubesat bird will be entered in a NASA competition.  Darren was asked about his team and the UCSD administrative support for their projects, plus he was asked for specifics regarding the 3D printed rocket motor including its performance specs.  Darren talked about fuels that will likely be used by the 3D motor plus they may use a version of it to propel the lunar lander which they want to make a soft landing on the lunar surface.  Abut the lander, I inquired what it would do on the surface.  He said they would be pleased if it accomplished the soft landing plus survived a lunar day.  They want it to call home and take photos.  Our guest received several questions about the UCSD SEDS chapter as well as SEDS on a national level.  One listener asked him if they had ITAR issues, especially with foreign students.  Don’t miss his response to this question.  Bill called from Chicago to talk about Darren given he knows hm.  We learned much about this young, inspired student and future industry leader.

In the second segment, I asked Darren if he wanted to carry out his lunar plans as a private company or with government. He wants to be a private company with the government as a customer.  We also talked about Darren’s larger set of plans for the Moon including his starting a lunar landing business, servicing lunar tourism, additional mining over and above HE3 and more.   When asked about going to Mars, he said the path to Mars was through the Moon.  He supported asteroid mining but thinks it is far from being ready now and the path again goes through the Moon.  Doug called to ask more questions about the 3D motor and mining HE3 on the Moon. This latter subject was a major part of the Part 2 discussion with listeners as there were many questions about mining HE3, fusion development, HE3 on Earth, and even seriously using thorium rather than trying to develop lunar HE3 resources.  John from Ft. Worth called in on this and suggested using lunar HE3 for advanced spacecraft propulsion from the Moon rather than bringing it back to Earth.  There was plenty of listener interest in the fusion-HE3 discussion.  Returning to asteroid mining, Darren said one of his goals was to mine asteroids but that it was still a very long ways off.  He said “mine the moon first!”.  As the show was ending, we talked some more about thorium here on Earth, appropriate conferences for Darren to attend and he gave a shout out to his team members.

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Dr. Erik Conway, Monday, 4-13-15 April 14, 2015

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Dr. Erik Conway

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Guest:  Dr. Erik Conway.  Topics:  Dr. Conway’s book, “Exploration and Engineering: The Jet Propulsion Laboratory and the Quest for Mars”  & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Erik Conway to the show to discuss his new book, “Exploration and Engineering: The Jet Propulsion Laboratory and the Quest for Mars,” JPL history, engineering, Mars missions, and much more all from the historical perspective.  In the first segment of our 1 hour 28 minute discussion, I asked Dr. Conway how JPL engineers did things that led to major Mars exploration breakthroughs.  He cited the Mars Pathfinder mission as an example and the decision to use airbags for the landing.  Dr. Conway took us through the process, the cost benefit analysis of the decision and the role played by budgets, the engineers, policy makers, and others contributing to the mission.  Our guest provided us with other examples as well from other Mars projects and missions.  Listeners asked our guest about human missions.  Here, Dr. Conway had much to say throughout our discussion focusing on the fact that humans are dirty with bacteria, planetary protection is a priority, and there is zero risk or near zero risk for a human mission.  When asked if the Moon required the same planetary protection policies as Mars, he said no though in the early days of lunar exploration, it did.  I asked our guest about the roles played by policy makers and engineers and this resulted is a very interesting discussion. Don’t miss it.  Listener Barbara in Seattle asked our guest about Curiosity cost overruns and how that would be reported on in history.  This led to a discussion about the impact of management and others on the initial design and budgets.  Later, Dr. Conway was asked why JPL had a focus on Mars in the first place.  Doug called in to ask about the humans vs. robot debate for science.  Don’t miss the response to this question by our guest.  Doug also brought up the issue of finding past or present life on Mars and what that might mean for future  Mars missions.  Dr. Conway agreed that probably all sides in the argument of avoiding Mars to avoid contaminating and disturbing life to the opposite perspective will be arguing the issues for a long time to come.  Dr. Conway addressed commercialization and while supporting reduced launch costs said the cost reduction needed to be magnitudes lower than even the lower costs of today.  Dwayne called and addressed planetary protection, then he turned his attention toward asking about the research opportunities at JPL for outside historical researchers.  Erik explained why these opportunities were limited, partly holding ITAR responsible.

In the second segment, Erik talked about the risk versus return on the costs.  He talked about there being almost zero tolerance for accidents and losses with Mars missions and human missions.  He also said the zero risk tolerance for these missions has been a significant cost driver.  Our guest had much to say on this subject with regards to Mars so don’t miss it as it covered most of the second segment. Later in this segment, Jake inquired about the early JPL history and its founders and their impact on the JPL of today.  Penny wanted to know about the Cal Tech-JPL relationship.  Dwayne sent in an email asking about the Faster, Better, Cheaper programs and what happened with the JPL programs using this approach.  This was an interesting way to wind up the show. As we were ending we learned that Goddard has no historian so their programs are not being recorded or document.  I sked Erik the difference in JPL and the APL.  Note how he explained the difference between the two labs, their risk tolerance, and decision process.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  You can reach Dr. Conway through JPL or me.

Dr. Eligar Sadeh, Tuesday, 2-24-15 February 25, 2015

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Dr. Eligar Sadeh, Tuesday, 2-24-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2422-BWB-2015-02-24.mp3

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Guest:  Dr. Eligar Sadeh.  Topics:  Export Control modifications & current affairs in space development/exploration.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Dr. Eligar Sadeh to update us on changes in the export control regimes for the U.S.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 44 minute segment, Dr. Sadeh discussed new changes in export control, mainly for satellites.  As Dr. Sadeh explained it, the new regime was moving toward self-policing by the industry with minimum government oversight.  During this segment, Eligar explained this, noted the changes from the previous ITAR regime, and we talked about the self-policing nature of the new regime. I took a rather “doubting thomas” view of the self-policing aspects of the new regime, both from a government and industry perspective.  Frequent listeners to this program will not be surprised by my view which by the way was rebuked by several callers to the show supporting the self-policing and minimum government oversight methodology as explained by our guest.  During this segment, we also inquired about the small satellites, cubesats, and the burden falling on the companies for compliance, even smaller start-up companies.  Eligar said many times that the process was in transition but the final rules have been published and now it is up to the companies to follow them.  When asked about major transition issues, our guest cited liability shifting to the companies and the self compliance issues plus monitoring.  As the segment was ending, Dave called in as one of the rebukes to my skeptical comments to make comparisons to similar changed that happened in the nuclear power industry in 1996.

In the second segment, Ft. Worth John (there are so many John’s calling the show I feel compelled to identify which John called) to support the new regime and to disagree with my skeptical analysis.  John offered some good insights and he made some excellent comments that added to our discussion.  Later in this segment, I asked Eligar for his thoughts on public private partnerships, international space partnerships, human spaceflight, robotic missions and more.  Christine in Salem sent us an email asking why Congress and those making space policy fail to value space as we in the advocate and enthusiast community value it.  Eligar challenged Christine with a comprehensive and very interesting reply.  Eligar was then asked if the new export regime was reached in a bi-partisan way.  Our guest had much to say about space being bi-partisan.  He also spoke about the academic journal Astropolitics as he is the editor of the journal.  Tim from Huntsville was our last caller.  He inquired about collision and liability issues  for small sats colliding with large satellites.

If you have questions/comments please post them on TSS blog per the above URL.  You can reach Dr. Sadeh through me.

 

Golden Oldie: Elon Musk from 10-24-01 replayed Tuesday, 10-28-14 October 28, 2014

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Golden Oldie: Elon Musk from 10-24-01 replayed Tuesday, 10-28-14

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Guest:  Elon Musk from Oct. 24, 2001; Topic: Golden Oldie Archive Play regarding the Mars Oasis plan and Elon’s ideas for a multi-planet species by settling on Mars.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.   For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

This is a Golden Oldie program from Oct. 24, 2001.  At this time, The Space Show was known as Business Without Boundaries and was aired on a Phoenix radio station.  The formatting of the program was that of the radio station as they divided the 60 minute discussion into 5 short segments. All the commercial breaks and music from back then are included in this discussion.  Elon was the 16th guest on The Space Show (Business Without Boundaries).  In the first segment, we talked about the why of Elon’s interest in space and the need to be on a second planet.  Mr. Musk talked about the different reasons for wanting to go to space but for him it was to insure survival of our species by being a multi-planet species.  Elon then discussed his Mars Oasis Project which was time lined for 2005 as a private mission.  He wanted to rally American public opinion for the need for a human presence on Mars.  Our guest took us deeper into Mars Oasis with his greenhouse plans and some of the crops he thought would be suitable for the project.

In the second segment, Elon again said they were looking for a 2005 launch with a landing on Mars in 2006.  A listener asked him about using off the shelf technology and Bruce from Stanford wanted to know about Russian-US cooperation since the plan was to use a converted Russian SS18 ICBM for the launch vehicle.  Our guest also identified some of the equipment that would be part of the Mars Oasis payload.  John in St. Louis asked Elon if this was a commercial project with an expected ROI.  The answer was that it was a humanitarian project and no ROI was expected.

In the third segment, Elon was asked to estimate the costs for the project.  He said that NASAs cheaper missions were around $200-250 million and full cost missions were higher. In this segment he suggested the costs might be 10-15% of the lower NASA costs.  He was also planning two missions since it was possible for one to fail.

In the fourth segment, Elon was asked additional questions about the costs which he approximated at $20-$30 million.  Another question dealt with regulatory issues. Here, Elon did talk about ITAR but said at present there were no laws or regulations regarding a private mission to Mars.  Remember now, our discussion took place in 2001. Near the end of this short segment, questions about using the NASA DSN came up as Mars Oasis would need to communicate with Earth.  Elon suggested a design for his own communication network which he said might be commercialized down the road for other upcoming commercial space users.

In the fifth and final short segment, Elon summarized our discussion and said that he wanted to both change the world & create a world.  He also said we were closer to being able to go to Mars than JFK was when he said we would go to the Moon.

Post your comments on The Space Show blog but remember, this discussion aired Oct. 24, 2001.  9/11 had just happened.  We were preparing for war, our nation was very different then than it is today.  If you listen to later interviews with Elon, you will hear him discuss why Mars Oasis was tabled and why he thought it necessary to build his own rocket and rocket company.  You can find these archived programs using the GuestSearch tool on our website.  Search for his name.  You want the programs where he was the guest, not just talked about by others. Hats off to Elon Musk for his flexibility and for his work in making sure his vision eventually comes to life and reality.

Mark Bray, Monday, 10-27-14 October 28, 2014

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Mark Bray, Monday, 10-27-14

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Guest:  Mark Bray.  Topics:  Mark talked about NASA and related issues, his run for Congress, congressional issues, space in the campaign & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Mark Bray to the program to discuss the role of space policy in his congressional campaign.  During the first segment of our 91 minute program, Mark explained why he was running for congress as an Independent candidate for the 5th District in Alabama.  We quickly focused in on the role of space in his congressional race.  In addition, is space a priority issue, how much of one, and in his district, how space aware are the voters.  I asked Mark about aerospace engineers and other engineers in the U.S. Congress.  I doubt you will be surprised the demographics Mark shared with us.  I also asked Mark for his committee choices should he win and how easy it might be for him to get a seat on one of the science, technology & space committees.  Mark talked about commercial space, the support for it in the Huntsville area, and public/private partnerships.  The art of compromise was discussed & our guest noted the absence of it in congress.  Mark explained the assets a engineer brings to the table in complex decision making and why that background is well suited for being in congress.  Since Mark works on SLS in his engineering job, of course he got a few questions about it.  I wanted to know if members of the public asked or commented to him one way or the other on SLS & its future.  He said SLS comments, when he got them, were more general.  Judy sent in a note about a video on his website, http://www.brayforcongress.com, which focused on the NASA culture of the 60s.  Mark said he was focusing on the new, young NASA that could take on the near impossible and do things because it was not yet a tried and proven member of the government bureaucracy. Today, NASA is the bureaucracy and because of that, it operates differently.  His comments were interesting, don’t miss them.  Bob asked Mark about the private sector creating jobs as opposed to the claims that the public sector creates the job.  Again, don’t miss his reply.  Dr. Rowe asked a question about making astronaut medical data more freely available to researchers, wanting to know if Congress could make such data more readily available.

In the second segment, Mark said he wanted to establish himself as the go to guy on space issues for congress.  Greg called in to talk about why space matters as a national issue.  Tim from Huntsville was the last caller on the program.  He brought up needed ITAR reform to which Mark said there were meaningful reforms on the table that he supports.  He then brought up spaceports and launch restrictions, then I asked our guest to rank campaign priorities including the economy, healthcare, foreign policy, Ebola, ISIS, Russia, and space.  Mark said the economy trumped all issues but listen to see where space is on this list.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog.  You can reach Mark Bray through me.

 

Jeremy Straub, Joe Vacek, Friday, 10-17-14 October 18, 2014

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Jeremy Straub, Joe Vacek, Friday, 10-17-14

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2338-BWB-2014-10-17.mp3

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Guests:  Jeremy Straub, Joe Vacek.  Topics:  The impact of rules & regulations on small businesses, academics from a smallsat perspective.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Jeremy Straub & Joe Vacek to the program to discuss the impact of rules and regulations on small businesses, startups, entrepreneurs, academics, and researchers, all from the small satellite industry perspective.  Originally we were to do a one hour program but we went long for 80 minutes. in just one segment.  We started our discussion on the light subject of Joe’s all weather bike riding, including the winters in Grand Forks, ND with studded bike tires.  After talking about cross country and all weather bike riding, we talked about how small businesses are adversely impacted by rules and regulations which according to the Supreme Court, have the effect of legally passed laws. Our guests started off citing ITAR and remote sensing as an example.  Most of the rules & regs are in support of the large satellite industry so it can be burdensome on small satellites.  I asked about privacy issues which were addressed in detail during our program.  Our guests said that privacy issues was the opening of Pandora’s Box.  Later in the discussion, privacy came up again in the context of the 4th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.  Our guests talked about the difference in federal privacy issues as compared to state issues, specifically regarding aerial surveillance.  Later, more was said about ITAR issues as well as issues raised by the Export Administration Regulations (EAR).  The issue of the need for a variety of government licenses from different agencies was discussed along with the burden this can cause for the groups we focused on in this discussion.  We talked about compliance, what happens if the rules & regs are violated, even if by accident.  Our guests pointed out the compliance burden on the smaller organizations as well as the legal defense costs if such a strategy is deployed by the companies.  As a possible remedy, both our guests talked about establishing a safe harbor rule which they described during our discussion.  In short, if a good faith effort was made to comply but something was done wrong or missed, a safe harbor rule would help the company avoid significant prosecution.  Our guests strongly recommended doing due diligence on the rules & regulations prior to starting the business or a specific type of mission.  They even suggested hiring a professional to do the due diligence if the company cannot do it themselves but they stressed many times during the segment that it was essential to do thorough rule & regulatory due diligence.  I asked our guests for closing comments.  Jeremy & Joe left us with important points to consider based on our discussion.  We thanked the listeners for emailing in questions and comments.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  You can reach either of our guests through me.

Rex Ridenoure, Monday, 10-6-14 October 7, 2014

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Rex Ridenoure, Monday, 10-6-14

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Guest:  Rex Ridenoure.  Topics:  Ecliptic Enterprises updates, commercial space, commercial space and the future.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Rex Ridenoure to the show for this 96 minute discussion containing Ecliptic Enterprises updates, commercial space programs and business models,  plus much more. In the first segment, our guest provided us with updates for Ecliptic from the time he left the company to do consulting for private missions and then his return to the position he left.  Government sequestration happened about the same time and hurt Ecliptic as you will hear, plus it caused Rex to come back to Ecliptic. You will also hear how business has come back for Ecliptic since sequestration ended.  Rex talked about new contracts, the focus of their business and more.  He spoke about RocketCam and updated us on some of its new market potential plus features and advancements.  We talked about the emergence of cubesat companies as potential Ecliptic customers given the advancements in this field.  Rex talked about a new emerging business line for the company in the form of being an integrating contractor rather than only a subcontractor to a prime.  Export control and ITAR were discussed when I asked if RocketCam was being sold to foreign launchers.  The short answer was no but listen to what Rex had to say about export control and the hope for new rules in the near future.  Rex introduced us to the concept of experiment control on the ISS.  This pertains to experiments on board the ISS being controlled by ground personnel rather than by the ISS crew.  Doug called to ask about the purpose of the Ecliptic projects plus goals for Rex with his work.  Don’t miss the killer reply Rex gave Doug.  Other topics in this segment dealt with rad tolerant hardware as opposed to radiation hardened hardware and streaming data back to Earth on the DSN or another system.

In the second segment, Rex spent most of the time talking about commercial space and his years in service to developing commercial space including early in his career. See the career time table for Rex that I have posted on the blog.  Rex identified a few of the early commercial space projects he was involved with, then he said we had finished the first wave of reconnaissance of our solar system.  Listen to his explanation for this statement.  Rex next talked about one of the next big commercial areas for development which he said would be bringing  space resources to the Earth economic system.  Listener Paul emailed a question asking about commercial space efforts in other countries.  Following that discussion, Rex told us about attending the 10th anniversary XPrize event at Mojave which was an invitation only event.  I asked Rex if people were disappointed that ten years had gone by without commercial spaceflights.  He did say that their was an air of disappointment in the room among those attending the event.  Near the end of our show, Rex was asked about HSF to Mars.  He also talked about the early program Elon Musk wanted to do, Mars Oasis.  SLS came up for discussion, then Rex provided us with a list of take away points for our discussion.  He ended by saying that commercial launch dated back to 1963 and the trend was for more commercial launches and space projects.  He said commercial space was based on a 50 year old proven model.

Please post your comments/questions for Rex Ridenoure on TSS blog per above.  You can reach Rex through me or the Ecliptic website, http://www.eclipticenterprises.com.

Chris Carberry, Joe Cassady, Sunday, 8-17-14 August 18, 2014

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Chris Carberry, Joe Cassady, Sunday, 8-17-14

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Guests:  Chris Carberry, Joe Cassady.  Topics:  ExploreMars.org and projects ExoLance & Time Capsule, Mars life detection experiments.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Chris Carberry, Executive Director of ExploreMars.org and for the first time Joe Cassady to discuss current and new ExploreMars.org projects including the ExoLance Mission and the Time Capsule.  During the first segment of this 90 minute program, Chris provided us with a brief overview of ExploreMars.org, then he got into the specifics of their new project, ExoLance.  For more information about it and the crowd funding financial program, see http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/exolance.  Both Chris and Joe spent most of this segment with the details of this mission which will flyto Mars on an existing NASA or ESA Mars mission in the 2020s, dropping up to six tungsten penetrators loaded with life detection experiments to penetrate the Martian surface by up to 1-3 meters.  Our guests answered many emails as well as phone questions including specifics about the penetrators, the locations they would search, the tungsten penetrators serving as ballast on the main spaceflight missions, the impact velocity, and much more.  Chris and Joe several times referenced the work of Dr. Gil Levin for his labeled release (LR) experiments on the Viking missions, plus the work of Dr. Chris McKay at NASA Ames.  Both are key to designing the mission and scientific instrumentation for the penetrators.  I hope you find this detailed discussion as interesting as I found it.

In the second segment, we talked about other ExploreMars.org projects including the student led Time Capsule.  For more information, visit http://www.timecapsuletomars.com.  According to the website, the Time Capsule project sends to Mars digital messages from tens of millions of people from all corners of Earth in the form of text, images, audio and video clips.  This will Enable tens of millions of people from every country on Earth to upload their pictures, short movies, text messages and other digital media to the time capsule for about $1.00 for 10 mb.  Joe and Chris described the project, the student leaders behind it, and they invited all to participate.  Later in the segment, our guests talked about the next Humans2Mars conference scheduled for early May 2015.  They also talked some about this year’s conference and the many people that attended it plus the thousands of others around the world who saw it via streaming.  As you will hear, more than a thousand schools worldwide logged in to see the speakers as well.  Clearly, going to Mars gets people’s attention around the world like nothing else in the space field.  We got an email about possible ITAR issues with the crowd funding program and I asked our guests for Plan B if life was not discovered by the penetrators.  You might find their response to this question interesting, perhaps even entertaining.  Several listeners suggested some more advanced technology for the penetrators but the guys want to keep the first round very simple and affordable.  Based on the success of the first round of penetrators, they might evolve for future experiments.

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NewSpace Conference 2014 Interviews, Friday, 8-1-14 August 1, 2014

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NewSpace Conference 2014 Interviews, Friday, 8-1-14

Featuring Dr. Alex Saltman of CSF & Congresswoman Donna Edwards

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Guests:  Dr. Alexander Saltman; Congresswoman Donna Edwards.  Topics:  Two separate NewSpace interviews, first with Dr. Alex Saltman of CSF.  Next, Congresswoman Donna Edwards.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

The Space Show brings you two separate NewSpace Conference 2014 interviews.  The first interview is with Dr. Alexander Saltman, the Executive Director of the Commercial Spaceflight Federation.  Following Dr. Saltman is an interview with Congresswoman Donna Edwards of the 4th District of Maryland.  Unfortunately, the room audio with Congresswoman Edwards was bad and below Space Show audio standards.  We apologize for the poor audio.  In the first interview with Dr. Alex Saltman, we learned about the Commercial Spaceflight Federation (CSF).  For more information about it please visit http://www.commercialspaceflight.org.  Not only did Alex talk about CSF, how it lobbies for commercial space policy per its membership and a host of other space issues, he about congressional lobbying since he was on the staff of Adam Schiff who has JPL and Cal Tech in his district.  Alex provided us with good pointers on how to reach our congressional members or their staff, how to make the most of an appointment and the best ways to communicate with them about space policy.  We got a glimpse of congress from both the congressman’s perspective and the constituent in how best to reach their MOC.  Alex brings many of these skills to the CSF because CSF does for commercial space what many of us do in our advocacy except on a larger scale and in a far more professional way.  I believe you will find the interview interesting & beneficial.

In the next interview with Congresswoman Donna Edwards, Democrat, 4th District of Maryland ( http://donnaedwards.house.gov), we talked specifically about space policy and programs in the congress.  Dr. Jeff Foust and Doug Messier were also present at the press conference and the three of us took turns asking questions.  Congresswoman Edwards also delivered the keynote luncheon address on Saturday at the NewSpace Conference.  She is on the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee where she sits on The Subcommittee on Space and is the Ranking Member.  Some of the questions and topics discussed with Congresswoman Edwards included possible regulations and amending of the CSLA, SLS, Orion, the Asteroids Act 2014, commercial space, public/private partnerships, the NASA budget, bipartisanship on space, the Russian RD-180 rocket motor, the recent Chinese ASAT test, and the theft of intellectual property.  We also asked our guest for the best ways to reach her regarding space advocacy as well as other members of congress.

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Robert (Bob) Meurer, ATK, Wednesday, 7-30-14 July 30, 2014

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Robert (Bob) Meurer, ATK, Wednesday, 7-30-14

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2290-BWB-2014-07-30.mp3

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Guest:  Robert (Bob) Meurer.  Topics:  ATK Space Systems and small satellites, SmallSat 2014, business trends & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Bob Meurer, VP of Business Development, Commercial & International Programs and Director Civil Space Programs for the Space Systems Division, ATK Aerospace Group.  During our 60 minute one segment discussion, we explored the small satellite market, its trends, and development/evolution over the years to where the industry is today.  As you will hear, the industry has undergone tremendous growth, capital is now showing up, large players are taking note of entrepreneurial companies such as Skybox, Google and Facebook are in the industry among others.  Bob took us back to his start of the industry in 1986 which was also the first year of the SmallSat Conference.  This historical overview is really interesting because back then, nobody could contemplate what we see in the industry today, plus a small satellite back then bears practically no relationship to a small satellite and cubesat of today regarding specs, capabilities, size, performance, etc.  I asked our guest if the SmallSat conference had influenced the industry or if the industry was influencing the conference.  We had an interesting discussion about this. We talked about the impact of Silicon Valley on the industry and Bob referenced several companies worth noting.  Given the global business presence of our guest and ATK, I asked how political instability around the world impacted international business.  Don’t miss this discussion.  ITAR came up and Bob noted new rules starting Nov. 10, 2014 that shift some items to commerce control instead of state dept. control.  This should ease some restrictions on commercial activities.  Toward the end, we talked about on orbit servicing and the ATK commercial venture ViviSat for satellite life extension. Check it out at http://www.vivisat.com.

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