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Jay Barbree, Monday, 7-28-14 July 29, 2014

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Jay Barbree, Monday, 7-28-14


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Guest:  Jay Barbree.  Topics:  Neil Armstrong and Jay’s new book, “Neil Armstrong: A Life of Flight,” plus SLS, Orion, NASA Budgets and more.   Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back long time NBC space news reporter Jay Barbree to the show to discuss his new book, “Neil Armstrong: A Life of Flight.  Our program made use of the 60 minute format and one segment. We welcomed Jay to the show but as you will hear, there was a technical glitch as we started so you will hear the program being restarted.  No program time was lost.  Jay started by sharing with us the timeline he worked on for this book which spanned several decades.  He also set the stage by detailing his special relationship with Armstrong that made it possible for him to write this type of book.  He started Chapter 1 with the story of Neil ejecting from his fighter jet during the Korean War.  As you will hear, Neil was one of the early pilots ejecting from a jet fighter.  He flew into an anti-aircraft wire stretched between two mountains and it removed part of his plane.  He was unable to make it back to the Essex but he did manage to keep the plane in flight and when he ejected, he was over a Marine base.  Jay talked extensively about Neil seeing himself as a research test pilot and he referenced the old NACA plus his efforts that eventually paid off to get a test pilot assignment at Edwards AFB to fly at Dryden which has since been renamed after Neil Armstrong.  Jay talked about one X-15 flight where he overshot the landing.  The flight being described, the Pasadena Over flight, demonstrated Neil’s skills and expertise as a test pilot.  Jay talked about how Neil always wanted to go to space, plus his teaching career later in life.  A listener asked Jay about Neil and the Apollo 11 crew.  Jay had much to say on this subject, & why the specific Apollo 11 crew members were selected by Neil and Deke Slayton.  He also talked about the facts of Neil being the first to walk on the Moon, the conspiracy theory about their not being photos of Neil on the Moon because Buzz would not take any and much more.  Another listener wanted to know why Neil became far more public after the Columbia accident.  In his response to this question, Jay talked about Neil not liking the press and wanting to keep his privacy.  In the book, Jay Barbree referred to Armstrong, Collins, and Aldrin as the misfits.  Don’t miss this great discussion.  Later, another listener wanted to know about Neil’s objections to cancelling the Constellation Return to The Moon program.  Jay went into some detail on this subject, including commenting on commercial space, SpaceX and more.  One thing he pointed out as did Neil and other astronauts was that what SpaceX and the new commercial industry was accomplishing, as outstanding as it was, is, and will be, was already done back in the day with our early space program, especially with Apollo.  As part of this discussion, Jay spoke about the SLS and NASA budgets, suggesting more money for NASA was not needed, but they needed to be more effective and efficient with how they spend their annual $18 billion plus.  He talked about consolidation, wastes at the centers and he told the LBJ story about the president’s insistence on locating Mission Control in Houston.  As our discussion was drawing to a close, Jay talked about Neil’s concept for incremental exploration which started out by going no further from Earth than three days with a 3 day return and no further out than a three second communication delay.  Once we mastered that, we go to the next goal and this way we incrementally explore space as we develop the ability to do so.  As the program ended and since Jay talked about getting old and his age throughout the show, I asked him if he planned to send his ashes to space upon his death.  Don’t miss his answer and our program’s conclusion.

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Jay Barbree, Monday, 3-5-12 March 5, 2012

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Jay Barbree, Monday, 3-5-12


Guest:  Jay Barbree.  Topics:  Overview of the space program today, SLS, presidential politics and NASA.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed NBC veteran space reporter Jay Barbree back to The Space Show for a conversation that focused on our best options for today’s space program.  Our discussion was one hour forty minutes without a break.  We started out discussing Jay’s thoughts when he reported on the last shuttle flight given he had reported on every shuttle flight ever made.  He also told us he had updated and reissued his best selling book “Moonshot” which he co-authored with Alan Shepherd and Deke Slayton.  Remember, if you buy it from Amazon with this specific URL, Amazon makes a contribution to The Space Show: www.amazon.com/Moon-Shot-Alan-Shepard/dp/1453211977/ref=onegiantlea20.  Other topics discussed included a comparison of the original astronauts to astronauts today and the need to return to the Moon.  In fact, Jay told us about ideas being discussed to use the ISS to do a figure 8 loop to and from the Moon rather than crashing it into the ocean at the end of its life.  To do this, he said nuclear propulsion was needed and this led him to discuss the overall need for the nuclear rocket, especially for going to Mars.  A listener asked him if he favored a one way trip to Mars and he said yes.  Don’t miss his complete answer.  Next, we started talking about the Space Launch System which ended up as the main discussion topic for the balance of the program.  Jay strongly supports SLS and is concerned that it might be cancelled.  We talked about what the Obama administration would likely be doing with space and then he talked about his conversations with the Republican candidates and his impressions of each one and their interest in space.  He talked at length about Newt’s Florida primary comments and returning to the Moon in general. He also talked about the need for space settlement given the vulnerability of Earth.  Later, a listener asked Jay if he was familiar with the accusations being made against NASA for how they dealt with the chimps in the early space program and their idea to get KSC to donate space for a chimp museum documenting abuse during their NASA days and dedicating to stopping lab research.  Jay was not familiar with the story but listener Tim found the story on the PETA website:  http://www.peta.org/b/thepetafiles/archive/2012/02/29/peta-to-launch-memorial-at-space-center.aspx.   Jay talked more about the SLS but also about Falcon 9, Dragon, the Boeing CTS 100, and the Atlas 5.  He expressed his concerns many times that the politicians might actually mess up NASA and our future, specifically by cancelling SLS, Orion, or both.  At the end, he told us about his MSNBC.com series “Getting to Mars” which is already underway.  Post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog URL above.