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Space Show Webinar with Dan Adamo, Dr. John Jurist, Sunday, 11-25-12 November 24, 2012

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Space Show Webinar with Dan Adamo, Dr. John Jurist, Sunday, 11-25-12

Audio only:  http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1900-BWB-2012-11-25.mp3

Video Stream:  http://vimeo.com/channels/thespaceshow

Guests:  Dan Adamo, Dr. John Jurist.  Topics:  Trajectory analysis to EML2, Mars, and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.  You can view our webinar on our Vimeo Space Show channel, http://vimeo.com/channels/thespaceshow.  To follow along with Dan’s pdf, use

https://thespaceshow.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/adamo-eml2roundtripr2.pdf.  We welcomed Dan Adamo back to the program and Dr. John Jurist as co-host for this special webinar addressing trajectory analysis for an EML2 mission and more.  On The Space Show blog, you will find Dan’s PDF document used during the webinar, a link to the movie he played in the second half of the webinar, and his Phobos-Grunt analysis paper we discussed near the end of the webinar. During the first hour of the webinar, Dan took us through the trajectory analysis to Earth-Moon L2 per his PDF document.  We talked about why EML2, libration points in general, and how such missions are planned.  If the resolution on the webinar video for the charts and tables used during this segment are difficult to read on your computer, please bring the document up on the PDF on The Space Show blog and follow along that way.  Dan took us through Table 1, HALO orbits, and the HOI as well as the Trans-Lunar Insertion points.  We talked about orbital characteristics, delta V, rocket size, and more  We also talked about the position of the Earth, launch windows, the Moon, & other factors influencing the planning of the mission.  While at times the discussion may seem a bit technical or overwhelming for those of us having never done mission planning at this level before, all of us will certainly have a better understanding of the factors considered and influencing both robotic as well as human spaceflight missions.  Near the end of the segment, we talked about the SLS and heavy lift & how payload capacity interacts with mission & trajectory analysis. 
     In the second hour of our webinar, Dan took us through his HD movie of the orbital trajectory talked about during the first segment, stopping it at intervals for specific explanations and questions.  The movie is in the QuickTime format but you can see it both on the webinar or by using the URL provided on the blog.  We took several listener calls & questions.  One asked Dan about the differences in planning for the robotic vs. the HSF mission using MSL & Curiosity as an example.  Dan pointed us to a YouTube video he made a few years ago with Dr. Logan using these tools for a Deimos mission (www.youtube.com/watch?v=X10GAqA4Ky4). Another listener called wanting to know the likelihood of an EML2 mission actually happening.  Dan explained why he believed this mission to be the next stepping stone in HSF.  More was discussed about SLS with Dan raising some concerns about its real capabilities & wondering if Congress is being sold unrealistic expectations. We talked about heavy lift in general & with the support of properly placed depots.  SLS and the difference with a Falcon Heavy were also discussed in terms of what the differences would mean in payload, number of launches, costs, risks, etc. 
     Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can contact either guest through me.
Dan’s PDF document is here:  Adamo EML2roundTripR2
In addition, to watch Dan’s QuickTime movie which he will be using during the webinar, please click on this URL and then select the file format .mov:


Note that you must have the QuickTime player to play this movie if you intend to download it. You can watch it from the above URL without the QT player.


Dr. Robert Farquhar, Sunday, 3-25-12 March 26, 2012

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Dr. Robert Farquhar, Sunday, 3-25-12


Guest:  Dr. Robert Farquhar.  Topics:  Our discussion centered around his memoirs in his new book and his space involvement over fifty years.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed Dr. Robert Farquhar back to the program to discuss his new book, “Fifty Years On The Space Frontier: Halo Orbits, Comets, Asteroids, and More.”  If you purchase the book using the following Amazon link, Amazon will make a contribution to The Space Show/OGLF:  www.amazon.com/Fifty-Years-Space-Frontier-Asteroids/dp/1432759272/ref=onegiantlea20.  Dr. Farquhar started out by talking about his early interest and work in aviation and space, gradually taking us up to and including the missions he has described in his excellent book.  Among some of the points he made included that in the early years, there was much more independent freedom for those working on missions while today things are done by consensus, committees, etc. When asked if the missions were improved and the costs contained by the newer methods, he said he did not think so. Its an interesting discussion you will want to hear.  He highlighted several of the early missions and we talked quite a bit about the halo orbit and Lagrange points.  He also told us stories about plaques he snuck on missions, trying to arrange one mission arrival to coincide with his birthday and more.  Great stories and for sure you will have a smile if not an outright laugh when listening to Dr. Farquhar.  He also said all of the stories he was telling us were in his book.  Later in the longer first segment we talked about human spaceflight and why he supports SLS/Orion.  This discussion took us into a more extensive conversation about L1 and L2 missions in the Earth-Moon system.

In the second segment, listeners asked about L4 with the 2010 TK7 asteroid, New Horizons, Pluto, Mercury, and more.  Bob told us additional stories, including some about the photos used in the book.  The JWST came up as did additional funding for NASA.  Bob did not think more funding was needed but thought the existing money could be used better.  The Kuiper Belt was discussed as were asteroid issues in general along with specific missions.  Neat the end of the show, I asked Bob if his space work & expertise has given him perspectives on the existence of ET.  This is a brief discussion you do not want to miss!

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