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Small Sat Conference 2013, Friday, 8-16-13 August 16, 2013

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Small Sat Conference 2013, Friday, 8-16-13

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Guests:  Robert (Bob Meurer; George Torres.  Topics:  Two separate interviews from Small Sat 2013 on ATK commercial space & ATK Aerospace Group.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

Our first interview is with Robert (Bob) Meurer, Director of the ATK Business Development Division in Beltsville, MD.  During this 33 minute segment, we talked about how the small satellite market has changed and evolved since we talked with Bob at last year’s conference, plus we got updates on the DARPA Phoenix project, ViviSat, commercial opportunities and issues, the hot new market for on-orbit satellite servicing and the leadership role of ATK in this rapidly developing industry.  For this interview, Dr. John Jurist was co-host.  We focused on commercial development and related issues such as space tugs, even Moore’s Law as a metric, distributive satellite networks, the need for competitive ROIs, and more.  Bob spent more time with us regarding ViviSat and geo telecommunication two ton satellites.  We also addressed the emerging competition, the impact of sequestration and lots more.   ITAR came up as did the relevance on the ATK business of the Small Sat Conference.

Our next segment featured George Torres, Vice President of Communications for the ATK Aerospace Group in Salt Lake City, UT.  George talked about the announcement for ATK being awarded the ALV first and second stage contracts for the boosters for the Stratolaunch project.  George described the boosters, their proposed capability, and more.  We also talked about the high energy solid rocket propellant used by ATK for this project, then I asked George about the five segment booster from the Aries 1 which was cancelled a few years ago.  The five segment booster is interchangeable with the sections of the four segment booster used by the shuttle and now these boosters are being used for the SLS.  We talked about the upcoming static firing tests for the new SRBs for Stratolaunch and SLS.  George then talked about the ATK work in the field of composites and how they are a leader in the industry, doing the composite work for many other companies.  He described the ATK Aerospace Group which includes two launch groups, two satellite groups, and the composite group.  Before our segment with George ended, we returned to the subject of the five segment booster and SLS, focusing on the previous development motor static tests and the upcoming static firing tests actually being qualification motor tests.  Near the end of the segment, George updated us on the Liberty Launch Vehicle. ATK is now positioning Liberty for the cargo market but this will depend on the market for the capacity Liberty offers.

Please post your comments on The Space Show blog per above. You can email either of our two guests through me.

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Dr. John Jurist, Webinar, Sunday, 10-28-12 October 29, 2012

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Dr. John Jurist, Webinar, Sunday, 10-28-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1882-BWB-2012-10-28.mp3

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Guest:  Dr. John Jurist.  Topics:  This webinar focused on rocket mission, planning, risk & cost analysis using copyright protected spread sheets created by Dr. Jurist.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work, but must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies. You can see the webinar at https://vimeo.com/channels/thespaceshow.  We welcomed Dr. Jurist to this special two hour webinar on rocket mission, planning, risk, & cost analysis.  Dr. Jurist developed a series of copyrighted spread sheets for this discussion. Callers had the opportunity to “massage” the numbers to see what happened with costs, success probabilities, & how many launches might be needed depending on the rocket being evaluated.  We relied upon published data for all rocket systems discussed, even when only theoretical.  Much of the discussion during this webinar focused on comparisons of Falcon 9, Falcon Heavy, SLS, and the Liberty Launch Vehicle. We also used a Falcon 1e as a baseline for comparison.  Dr. Jurist and the callers planned missions to LEO and the ISS, the Moon, and Mars.  We also looked at costs of total payloads delivered into LEO as a function of launch vehicle reliability and cost for multiple launches into the same position in LEO. Even with our two hour discussion, we did not get to cover several spreadsheet pages that rough out launch vehicle configurations and costs as a function of payload and total production runs. We will cover more of this material in the upcoming parts of this webinar series through early next year.  Dr. Jurist addressed questions dealing with simultaneous launches and third party depot operations including fuel sales and space tug services.  Some other subjects were also discussed in the webinar including the recent high altitude jump by Felix Baumgartner and combating the spin.  We also talked about the recent statement made by Felix about not spending money on Mars missions in favor of saving the Earth.

Please post your comments & questions on The Space Show blog.  Dr. Jurist and I will respond to your blog posts.  If you want to talk to Dr. Jurist about his spreadsheet and your possible use for it, you can email him at jmjurist@aol.com.

Space Show Audition Program, Tuesday, 10-16-12 October 17, 2012

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Space Show Audition Program, Tuesday, 10-16-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1874-BWB-2012-10-16.mp3

Guests: Dr. David Livingston & Audition callers. Topics: This first time ever Audition show had a variety of topics per below. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube or other private channels/websites/publications. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright & trademark policies which we do enforce.Welcome to our fist Space Show audition program. Most callers talked about their projects to earn a place as guest on the program. We received email questions from listeners for the caller. Tell us on the blog if you would like to hear a specific caller as a guest on The Space Show. John was our first caller regarding his concept for a Two-Stage-Tether-to-Orbit program.  I’ll upload his two PDF documents to the blog, both of which explain in detail what he summarized on air. Doug was next to talk about Cislunar development around lunar ice at the poles, a moderate heavy lift such as the Falcon Heavy, propellant transfer and depots, and depot locations along with cargo transportation. Doug was asked about markets for his concept which he said might include satellite servicing. When asked about his time line in a “perfect world” supporting his concept, he suggested about 11-12 years. He also talked about a lunar settlement and his Lunar Cots Petition (www.ipetitions.com/petition/lcots). Andrew in Tucson was the next caller, encouraging people with ideas to assemble a garage type tool shop to learn to make simple parts of the hardware supporting their ideas. He talked about tools going back to WW2 & the ’60s as being valuable & important today. He explained why he was encouraging people to learn to do at least the basics of building their project components which would help obtain financing & spur the interest of others. He will soon have some of his videos on YouTube so search under his name for more on his idea, “Andrew Tubbiolo.” Jeff from Tucson called next to talk about taking a holistic view of space programs/projects such as SLS. He talked extensively about the need for solid rocket propellant per SLS & made the case for NASA being an integral part in our national security via its use of solids, space projects, etc. He stressed the holistic broader view over a more narrow view brought up by listener emails such as cost, economics, etc.

Our much shorter second segment started with a call from Armen who talked about the interstellar roadmap which could change the way space projects are financed.  He talked about financing being the bottleneck for space projects, then explained how the Fed creates money, debt/credit relationships, and how something like QE3 could be replaced by putting the $40 billion in one month toward space companies per the roadmap. The roadmap by Star Voyager was discussed. You can obtain more information from the Leeward Space Foundation (www.leewardspacefoundation.org). For specifics, www.leewardspacefoundation.org/id32.html. Our caller then talked about the International Space Development Hub (ISDH) at www.isdhub.com. ISDHub has proposed NASA Ames transform Hangar One at Moffett Field from a parking space to a space business hub. For details, see www.isdhub.com/about-us.

Place your comments/questions on our blog. Let us know who you would like to hear as a guest on The Space Show. You can email the callers through me.

Here are the two tether articles referenced above and from the first caller discussion:

Two-Stage-Tether-to-Orbit-Paper

Two-Stage-Tether-to-Orbit-Presentation

Rand Simberg, Tuesday, 5-15-12 May 16, 2012

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Rand Simberg, Tuesday, 5-15-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1775-BWB-2012-05-15.mp3

Guest:  Rand Simberg.  Topics:  Space Frontier property rights and risk aversion.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed back Rand Simberg to discuss his research paper on space property rights, Homesteading the Final Frontier (http://cei.org/sites/default/files/Rand%20Simberg%20-%20Homesteading%20the%20Final%20Frontier.pdf).  In the second part of the program, we discussed his next project focusing on our being too risk averse.  Our property rights discussion addressed many areas including land claims, the Outer Space Treaty, the Moon Treaty, English Common Law, royalty payments, commercial space development & enhancement, government regulation, marketable space real estate, both the Antarctica & Arctic models,  & the Law of the Sea Treaty.  Issues about launch country liability/responsibility were discussed & several listeners commented to Rand on his ideas, both for & con.  I also strongly recommend you read his paper per the URL above as he does a good job of laying out his idea and why he believes it to be both viable and important.

In the last segment, we switched topics to his newest project dealing with risk aversion.  He said the working title of his new project would be “We Are Not Killing Enough People.”  When I questioned him about the wisdom of such an inflammatory title, he said it was meant to get attention.  Listen to the discussion and see what you think.  Rand & listeners cited many examples of what is believed to be excessive regulation that either already does or has the potential to limit our choices as to what we can and cannot do.  I also cited examples from my own life about choosing risky things to do without having to be concerned about government regulations at the time.  But Rand kept the topic focused on space as much as possible & put forth a strong case for individual choice as long as it does not impact third parties & he made a strong connection with choice to economic growth, development, & resource expansion/utilization.  He also talked about the need to be free to fail and that frontiers have never been settled throughout history without the loss of life.  Near the end of the program, one listener said to Rand that “life without risk is a fantasy.”  Our congress was a big part of the focus of the discussion & here, Rand suggested that since most in Congress don’t care that much about space & most people don’t either, that when we write to our representatives, our letters have more impact than usual because they so seldom here from space supporters other than those in the industry lobbying for this or that policy.  Rand received lots of agreement on his risk conclusions & his idea that more people need to die to develop the frontier, but he also got strong opposition to his ideas.  Bill was one who opposed Rand’s ideas from a marketing & adverse publicity perspective.  Jim suggested that Rand & others needed to convince the public & Congress that space was a frontier and that it was actually worth dying for in settling/taming it.  For the most part, there was strong support for being less risk averse & for settling & economically developing the space frontier.  When Rand’s new project is published, I will be sure to call your attention to it so you can read & evaluate it for yourself.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog above.  Rand can be contacted through his own blog, Transterrestrial Musings at www.transterrestrial.com.  You can also comment on his Space Show appearance on his blog in addition to our blog.

Mark Bray, Monday, 12-12-11 December 12, 2011

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Mark Bray, Monday, 12-12-11

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1671-BWB-2011-12-12.mp3

GuestSearch:  Mark Bray.   Topics:  Aerospace engineering standards.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign.  We welcomed Mark Bray back to the program to discuss standards for NASA and the aerospace engineering field.  You can also check out Mark’s blog at http://braynstorms.com as was mentioned near the end of this two hour discussion.  Also, The White Paper referred to in our discussion, “Achieving Innovation and Affordability Through Standardization of Materials Development and Testing” can be downloaded from  http://braynstorms.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Achieving-Innovation-and-Affordability.pdf.  NOTE THAT MR. BRAY IS SPEAKING FOR HIMSELF DURING THIS INTERVIEW.  HE IS NOT SPEAKING FOR NASA, ANY CONTRACTOR OR ANY OTHER PARTY.  As we began our discussion with Mark, we talked about the situation at Marshall Space Flight Center (MSFC) and Huntsville in terms of projects, employees, moods, morale, etc.  Mark was comprehensive in his perspective, even talking about ATK, New Space and government procurement as well as the FAR.  Mark then shifted to standards and talked quite a bit about testing methods and why standards are needed.  Listeners asked about Space X and standards as well as Dr. Mike Griffin and standards at NASA when he was the administrator.  Later in the segment, we backed up and got Mark to explain the problems regarding standards or the lack thereof.  Later, a listener asked Mark for some examples.  One example he gave us was Henry Ford and standards at the early Ford Motor Company.  Toward the end of the segment, Mark started addressing liability issues along with fielding a question about the Dream Chaser vehicle.  In the second segment, we talked about government contracts and some oversight.  Mark explained testing in greater details and we asked why there would be opposition to standards.  Mark also raised the issue of why there was no PE title for aerospace engineers. You might be surprised by what he had to say about this.  During this segment, we again discussed liability protection for the developing companies.  Mark was very critical of putting energy into liability shielding and protection over standards. I supported Mark in his comments.  Make sure you hear this discussion which may prove controversial for many of you.  Near the end, I asked Mark about his fellow employees at MSFC and how they processed the economic news regarding the US and from around the world.  I wanted to know how the teams understood and applied to their jobs and profession the economic information and conditions in the country.  Don’t miss his pearls of wisdom closing comments.