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Tim Dooley, Tuesday, 8-25-15 August 26, 2015

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Tim Dooley, Tuesday, 8-25-15

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Guest: Timothy (Tim) Dooley; Topics: The Victorian Space Age and Tim’s new book, “Tales From An Alternate History.” Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back to the show Tim Dooley to discuss terraforming Venues from the perspective of his new book “Terraforming Venus: Tales From An Alternate History.” His excellent book is available at Amazon and if you purchase it using the OGLF portal (instructions are on our website and all archived summary programs including those on our blog) Amazon will make a contribution to TSS/OGLF. Visit Tim’s website, www.victorianspaceage.com. Also, it is important to note that Tim’s work is part of the steampunk genre and it is pure fantasy. Tim was not constrained by reality, physics, or engineering. His only limitations had to do with his imagination. Sit back and let your imagination go and enjoy the Victorian Space Age stories and times and the amazing images that Tim has produced to illustrate the stories. In our first segment, Tim introduced us to his storyline comprising Tales From An Alternate History. In addition, if you follow along with us on Tim’s Victorian Space Age website, he tells you how to access story lines he is discussing, how to see the illustrations, and to follow the time lines. I strongly suggest you listen to this show and follow along on the website. The first storyline we talked about focused on his book, “Terraforming Venus.” Tim introduced us to the main characters, the propulsion technology, and how Venus was terraformed by figuring out how to change the rotation period to match Earth’s rotation of a 24 hour day. Note again all of this is pure fantasy so let your imagination run wild as Tim details the Victorian Space Age for us, starting with activity on Venus. Later in the segment, Tim was asked how he handled life support issues, microgravity, spacesuits, and more. Given the Victorian Space Age and fantasy, Tim was not constrained by the realities of space travel so the Victorian Space Age space program could do just about anything in space. He also introduced us to silicon based life, to aliens, and in the second segment aliens become more a part of the timelines. In responding to a question about rockets, Tim said rockets were the mainstay of the space program in this period, even for interstellar travel. Don’t miss how he designed interstellar travel for this period. A listener asked if the Victorian Space Age was a private or commercial project or government run program. He said it was government but the US let down in some areas so the European Consortium stepped forward for Mars travel. Before the segment ended, he told us how he modeled a character regarding Mars travel after Dr. Robert Zubrin.

In the second segment, John from Ft. Worth called us to talk physics, fantasy and more. Additional clarification was given us on the European Consortium and Mars with Tim telling us how to access the Mars information on the website by going to the specific timeline and then to specific pages within the timeline. In response to another question, Tim said he has completed 32 stories but hopes to complete a total of 60 such short stories and four books. Other topics Tim was asked about included the use of airships during this time period, spaceports, gravity & radiation issues. Tim was later asked if any of the alien inhabitants on other planets got angry and attacked Earth. He said yes. He was also asked if different species mated with humans to create another species and he said yes, that too was in his alternate history. Dr. Doug emailed about science fiction and fantasy & wondered about readers wasting time with the fantasy, time that was not spent benefitting humanity. Note Tim’s response to Doug’s question plus my comments. I suggested not everything in space had to do with benefitting humanity and I loved a good fantasy and entertainment. Tim’s work is certainly that, no questions asked. Tim mentioned that being off world was a frequent concept he used as in his alternate history as humans were and are not confined to Earth. Later, Tim was asked about nuclear power in steampunk, how he dealt with health, illness, disease and related items in his timelines, then Tim from Huntsville called to ask Tim questions about writing a book and overcoming writer’s block. Tim concluded our discussion by focusing on “Terraforming Venus,” his alternate history timeline, his website, and his Facebook page.

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Brent Sherwood, Friday, 5-1-15 May 2, 2015

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Brent Sherwood, Friday, 5-1-15

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Guest:  Brent Sherwood.  Topics:  Human spaceflight, The year of the dwarf planets, Pluto, Ceres, budget math for space.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Brent Sherwood for updates to his human spaceflight analysis work previously presented on The Space Show.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 48 minute discussion, Brent started out with a brief discussion on scientific missions and the year 2015 being the Year of the Dwarf Planet.  He talked about the Dawn Mission and Ceres, New Horizons and Pluto, and the oceans on the outer planet moons.  Exoplanets and the habitable zone were also part of this discussion which included an assessment of just how our knowledge has changed regarding the compositing of the solar system.  To redirect the conversation to the purpose of today’s show, human spaceflight (HSF), I asked Brent when we would see HSF beyond LEO (BLEO). I asked about what seemed to be a new space advocacy push for space settlement. Brent then examined why HSF and referred us to his earlier work and the four reasons for HSF which were explore, exploit resources, to experience space, and settlement.  He said settlement was clearly part of the debate, talked about earlier workshops which would avoid the topic and then spoke to the recent Pioneering Space meeting held in Washington, DC where there was a consensus reach for space settlement.  He had good things to say about the meeting and the consensus resolution and talked about the broad space industry representation at the meeting as it was not just NewSpace.  Don’t miss what he had to say about it and space settlement.  Brent was also asked if our National Space Policy Act needed to be amended to reflect space settlement as the official goal of NASA.  Later, he was asked about the stepping stone or incremental approach to HSF development.  He supported this approach, spoke to the challenges for HSF such as life support and more.  As we were closing out the first segment, he offered us valuable insights on this topic so don’t miss what he had to say.

In the second segment, John from Florida called in to ask about grand space visions like an O’Neill orbital colony.  Brent proceeded to discuss grandiose visions in the context of how challenging they were plus their replacement cost.  Here, he used the replacement cost for Manhattan as an example of what he was talking about.  He cited a different type of example, the NASA Ames Space Settlement Contest that had nearly a thousand entries this year from 21 countries with the winner writing a 247 page grand space vision report.  Brent also spoke to the inspiration factor when talking about this contest.  A variety of listener emails were read on air for Brent to respond to, then I asked him if he thought Mars was the Holy Grail for HSF.  He said no so don’t miss why he said that.  He was asked about nuclear propulsion, then we talked about returning to the Moon , cislunar development, and then back to Martian settlement.  He was asked about going to the moons of Mars and he said there were two ways to settle Deimos.  Don’t miss his comments here either.  Near the end of the program, he said the physics of HSF were good but the problem was centered in being grounded in what he called program or budget math.  The budget math for HSF simply does not work, especially for a commercial venture.  He closed on the reality check of being grounded in budget math and the difficulty in going to Mars with humans.

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The John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 10-15-14 October 16, 2014

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The John Batchelor Show Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 10-15-14

Featuring Dr. Oliver de Weck, Sydney Do, Koki Ho,  Andrew Owens 

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John Batchelor and I welcome Dr. Oliver de Weck, Sydney Do, Koki Ho, & Andrew Owens to Hotel Mars for our regarding their paper and analysis, “An Independent Assessment Of The Technical Feasibility Of The Mars One Mission Plan.” You can download their 35 page report at  http://web.mit.edu/sydneydo/Public/Mars%20One%20Feasibility%20Analysis%20IAC14.pdf.  We welcomed the MIT authors of the paper “An Independent Assessment Of The Technical Feasibility Of The Mars One Mission Plan.”  John recorded four segments for an hour broadcast on The John Batchelor Show which is why you will hear the archived version divided into four segment with their own introduction.  In addition, we used a conference calling system to bring all but one of the authors on the program so you will hear a tone difference in this show and perhaps a soft echo type sound.  We apologize for any inconvenience this might cause you.

 

We started our 40 minute program by John asking Dr. de Weck for the origin of this paper.  Dr. de Weck took us back to beginning in 2004 providing us with an interesting leading up to the present time.  Given the number of guests on the program, John and I directed our questions to each person by name.  Some of the issues we talked about were life support for being on Mars and other issues referenced in their report & analysis “An Independent Assessment Of The Technical Feasibility Of The Mars One Mission Plan.” We also discussed the Mars One plan to grow food and the possible O2 poisoning resulting from that effort.  Since Mars One said that all the technologies were here now and on the ISS, the authors used the ISS as a source.  They discovered that many of the needed life support technologies are not available or tested for space let alone the Martian environment even if used here on Earth.  Our guests took us through many of the assumptions of the Mars One Mission as taken from their own statements and website.  The authors concluded that most if not all the technologies needed for humans to survive on Mars per their mission plan were today at a very low TRL or Technology Readiness Level.  Other issues that we talked about focused on the need for spare parts with this need rapidly growing to a point beyond Mars One capabilities.  3D printing was discussed as a replacement for spare parts  as was ISRU, the possible need for a rescue mission, Martian gravity & artificial gravity, Falcon Heavy launches and Dragon’s lined up on the Martian surface for the habitat plus other parts of the Mission Plan.

 

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Dr. Robert Zubrin, Tuesday, 8-6-13 August 7, 2013

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Dr. Robert Zubrin, Tuesday, 8-6-13

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 Guest:  Dr. Robert (Bob) Zubrin.  Topics:  The 16 Annual Mars Society Convention, radiation, HSF to Mars, Mars One, Inspiration Mars.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  PLEASE NOTE THAT IF YOU ARE ATTENDING THE CONFERENCE AND WOULD LIKE TO BE A ROVING REPORTER FOR THE SPACE SHOW WITH CELL PHONE REPORTS, PLEASE EMAIL ME.

We welcomed Dr. Robert (Bob) Zubrin back to the program to discuss the upcoming Mars Society 16th Annual Conference, Mars human spaceflight, Inspiration Mars, Curiosity, RAD, radiation levels, Mars One and much more.  For more information about the conference, visit http://www.marssociety.org/conventions/2013.  For information about The Mars Society, visit http://www.marssociety.org/home.  During our one hour discussion with Dr. Zubrin, we started our talking about the main conference speakers including Dennis Tito and Dr. Steven Squyres, among others.  In talking about Dennis Tito coming to the conference, we spent time discussing the Tito Inspiration Mars mission.  Bob had much to say about this mission, the likelihood of mission success, radiation issues, equipment and life support issues, and more.  In talking about radiation and the Curiosity RAD findings, Bob had much to say about NASA and their willingness to do a Mars HSF mission.  We took several listener emails and a call about radiation & even the use of nuclear propulsion to shorten the transit time for less radiation exposure for the crew.  Bob suggested that if we had nuclear propulsion, he would not increase the transit time (listen to his reason why which has to do with orbits & a free return to Earth), but he would increase the payload to take additional spare parts & life support equipment as he said equipment failures were a major risk factor on such a mission.  Bob talked some more about successes in the private sector, including SpaceX. He was also asked if SLS was necessary and he said he believed in more than one source for a launch vehicle and he supports heavy lift.  He also talked about the importance of government infrastructure and launch services for the future.  Don’t miss this discussion.  Later in the segment, Bob talked about the Mars Society 365 Mission (see http://ma365.marssociety.org).  Bob described this mission, why it is so important & why we should support it.  Jane emailed a question about Bob’s National Review article we mentioned, “Remembering Ploesti,” from August 3 (http://nationalreview.com/node/355074/print) and after extrapolating to today, wondered if humanity was ready for human spaceflight to Mars.  Bob provided us with an exceptional response to Jane’s question and comment so please listen and take note of what he said. I believe it to be very important.  As the program was ending, Ben wanted Bob to clarify his position on choosing either the Moon or Mars.  Don’t miss this response.  Bob left us with concluding comments to do something and support something.

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Bas Lansdorp of Mars One, Friday, 5-10-13 May 11, 2013

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Bas Lansdorp of Mars One, Friday, 5-10-13

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Guest:  Bas Lansdorp of Mars One.  Topics:  The Mars One mission, a comprehensive discussion.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.  We welcomed back Bas Lansdorp, CEO of the Mars One project located in Holland.  For more information, visit their website www.mars-one.com.

During the first segment of this 94 minute program, Bas took us through the basics of the Mars One concept and mission.  I asked him for clarification as to their company structure given some of the newsletters from last year regarding converting from a for profit to a nonprofit organization.  During the discussion, Bas fielded numerous email listener questions addressing a long list of issues relevant to the Mars One mission.  For example, we talked about why a one way mission, the flight time and launch windows for Mars, radiation, the differences with ISS and Mir crews in LEO as compared to going through the Van Allen Belts and entering deep space with cosmic radiation and possible solar flares.  Bas talked about using 25-40 CM of water shielding.  We talked about the psychological/emotional health of the crew, growing food on Mars, livestock, and a Martian greenhouse.  Resupply from Earth came up & we inquired about the need for Earth resupply as compared to being Martian self-sufficient, plus other life support issues.  Mars One plans on sending cargo missions and supplies to Mars well in advance of the first human mission so Earth resupply may not be what is needed.  Another listener asked Bas about the planetary protection rules and if Mars One was up on them. Bas said yes and appears to be supportive of planetary protection efforts & regulations.

In our second segment, I asked him about his PR given that Mars One gets so much positive PR.  Crew selection questions came in & Bas said the most important qualification for the crew would be to get along in groups.  They plan on teaching the crews all the needed skills so they do not have to select engineers, doctors, etc.  He said that when they hire the first crew, it will undergo the comprehensive training for the mission over 7 years.  Bas got questions about the costs and using a reality TV model for funding purposes.  Bas corrected the listener as their model is the Olympics, not a reality TV show.  Another listener wanted to know about the possibility of their being denied an FAA launch license.  Still another set of questions came in about a Mars One failure leaving an unsupported colony on Mars.  Bas had much to say about this issue so don’t miss his comments.  We also talked about nations implementing the Astronaut Rescue Treaty if Mars One went under & there was no other company in its place.  More was said about the applicants, about 80,000 so far.  He told us most want to go to do something useful to improve humanity and the world. Going because you are unhappy on Earth or something like that will not get you accepted as a Mars One crew member.  Bas said he would be at two upcoming California events for those wanting to meet him, the Space Tech Conference in Los Angeles (www.spacetechexpo.com/conference-program-2013) and ISDC at the end of May in San Diego (http://isdc.nss.org/2013).

If  you have comments/questions for Bas Lansdorp, please post them on The Space Show blog.  You can email Bas through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Dr. Joan Vernikos, Friday, 4-5-13 April 5, 2013

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Dr. Joan Vernikos, Friday, 4-5-13

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Guest:  Dr. Joan Vernikos.  Topics: Inspiration Mars flyby mission, human factors, counter measures, mitigation strategies.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed Dr. Joan Vernikos back to the program, this time to discuss the proposed Inspiration Mars flyby mission.  In the first half of our two hour program, Dr. Vernikos said it was a doable mission but that new ideas and solutions needed to be developed for the human factors.  When asked about the biggest problem, our guest said it would be the ability of the two person crew to get along and work together for the full mission.  This issue came up several more times during the program so you will hear more about it over the two hour discussion.  We took an early question from Dwayne about the overall air quality in the spacecraft and issues with bacteria and the air filtration.  Dr. Joan had much to say about this as it could be a problem depending on lots of factors including the ability to repair a damaged system during the mission.  Dr. Joan talked about life support and psychological issues along with the human factors.  Microgravity and radiation issues came up but again, there was a focus on the risk of destructive & irritating behavior with the crew members.  One of the recurrent themes was to look for alternative ways to develop tools and counter measures rather than doing much the same year after year which has been our history in developing human spaceflight protocols.  Dr. Rowe called in to strongly suggest that such a flyby mission should be delayed until 2032, putting forth his best arguments for the delay and why it should not be attempted in 2018.  Bill listed lots of medical events that could happen and which we cannot treat in space, all in support of delaying the flight until human spaceflight is better developed & we know more about it.

In the second segment, Doug called & talked about regulators possibly saying the crew was intentionally attempting to commit suicide. He talked about the medical code 5150 regarding intentional suicide. We also talked about possible regulatory issues around the issuance of a launch license.  Doug also talked about radiation, both within the Van Allen Belts and on the way to deep space.  Next, Dr. Dilip Sarkar from Norfolk called in to discuss alternative human factor countermeasures such as yoga.  Check our Dr. Sarkar’s website, https://sites.google.com/site/dilipsarkar/home.  The discussion of yoga for pre-flight training and to help with countermeasures was most interesting. Dr. Rowe called in several more times to challenge Dr. Joan and Dr. Sarkar on their yoga theories regarding spaceflight.  I believe you will find the discussions and calls very informative.  As the program was ending, Dr. Joan was again asked about the biggest challenge and she said it would be the human interaction with the crew. We also talked about the mental issue of withdrawal from Earth which will be pronounced on a Mars flight.

If you have comments/questions, post them on the blog.  You can email Dr. Joan through her website, www.joanvernikos.com.  I also recommend you sign up for her newsletter.

The John Batchelor Show “Hotel Mars,” Wednesday, 3-13-13 March 14, 2013

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The John Batchelor Show “Hotel Mars,” Wednesday, 3-13-13

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Guests:  John Batchelor, Taber MacCallum, Dr. David Livingston:  Topics: Inspiration Mars flight details.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce.  This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com.  Please note that there were some minor audio issues with this archive recording.

During our 11 minute plus discussion with Taber MacCallum of Paragon Space Development Corporation, we talked about the Inspiration Mars proposed human spaceflight flyby mission.  Some of the topics covered included the launcher, which space capsule would be used, the habitat for use when traveling to Mars, EDL back on Earth, crew size and gender, and life support

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Dr. Erik Seedhouse, Sunday, 9-30-12 October 1, 2012

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Dr. Erik Seedhouse, Sunday, 9-30-12

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Guest:  Dr. Erik Seedhouse.  Topics: Ocean outposts, living underwater, and the oceans as an analog to space.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. Dr. Erik Seedhouse returned to discuss his book “Outpost: The Future of Humans Living Underwater.  If you buy the book from Amazon with this URL, Amazon will contribute to The Space Show: www.amazon.com/Ocean-Outpost-Underwater-Springer-Popular/dp/1441963561/ref=onegiantlea20. In our first segment, Dr. Seedhouse introduced us to the subject of living underwater.  We discussed some of the basics per the outline suggested by the contents in his book.  You can see the book’s contents at www.amazon.com/Ocean-Outpost-Underwater-Springer-Popular/dp/1441963561/ref=onegiantlea20#reader_1441963561. Follow along for the general topic discussion. He received questions about comparing living underwater to living in space or perhaps on the Moon or Mars.  I asked our guest about human factors issues such as those experienced in long duration spaceflight.  Dr. Seedhouse talked about bone necrosis with the saturation divers.  Other issues in this segment dealt with scuba as a pre-requisite for spaceflight training, the recent deep dive in a small submarine by James Cameron, and the amount of money spent on ocean habitat R&D compared to that being spent in space.
      In our second segment, we went into detail on many of the topics in his book including biochemical decompression, liquid breathing, vasculoid, and artificial gills.  We compared space suits to dive suits, specifically the ADS2000 hard suit.  Several listeners called in asking about time lines for operational ocean outposts and habitats as well as many of the advanced technologies Dr. Seedhouse was telling us about.  Near the end of the program, our guest went into more detail about budgets for developing the capacity to live underwater as compared to the NASA budget and what the private space sector is now doing.  Erik also compared the amount of press, media , & PR given to space matters as related to ocean matters.
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Dr. Harley Thronson, Friday, 1-27-12 January 28, 2012

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Dr. Harley Thronson, Friday, 1-27-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1699-BWB-2012-01-27.mp3

Guest:  Dr. Harley Thronson.  Topics:  “Accelerating the Future: The Importance of Human Achievements Beyond LEO Within a Decade.”  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed Dr. Harley Thronson back to the show to discuss the existing and future planning for human spaceflight beyond LEO (BEO).  We talked about two recent Space Review articles Dr. Thronson wrote which I believe you will find very interesting.  (www.thespacereview.com/article/1985/1 and www.thespacereview.com/article/1756/1.  In addition, Dr. Thronson discussed the Future In Space Telecon (FISO) series that he hosts every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM EST.  To learn more about FISO and get on their mailing list visit http://spirit.as.utexas.edu/~fiso/fisowg.html and www.futureinspaceoperations.com.   In our first segment, we discussed the FISO telecons, then we switched to what’s next for human spaceflight (HSF) after LEO or BEO (beyond Earth orbit).  For this discussion, we referred to the two Space Review articles referenced above.  As we learned, there is considerable thought being given within NASA and among others at to what is next after the ISS and how do we start preparing for it.   Dr. Thronson talked about prioritizing what has to be done to move beyond the ISS and LEO.  Also in the mix were mission and even hardware design compromises that may enhance our ability to be ready to fly sooner, not later.  Those involved in this planning are of the opinion that we must compromise and also must fly soon, start something, otherwise we will lose opportunities and drive up costs even more than they will be.  Much of this has to do with being able to capitalize on the existing ISS workforce and those who know how to do space stations and HSF.  If we do not retain these people, then starting over again years later will be costly and will have a huge learning curve associated with it.  The goal of planners and thinkers Dr. Thronson is working with is to be BEO by the end of the decade.  We discussed where to go and here, our guest had much to say about Mars and the Moon, but said Earth-Moon libration points were best for starting out using a stepping stone approach.  Much of the first segment went into detail about these subjects and issues.

In the second segment, we talked about crew safety, using previously built but never used ISS modules as the basis for a BEO station, and compromises that can get us going quicker, not later but not adversely impacting safety.  Michael called in to talk about accidents and inevitable fatalities with HSF and the industry to properly handle them when/if they happen.  Both Dr. Thronson and I had much to say about safety, accident management, and this subject.  Another listener wanted to know when there would actually be work on BEO projects rather than just talking about them.  Dr. Thronson had much about getting started, time lines, mission readiness and more.

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