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Dr. Cameron Smith, Monday, 2-2-15 February 3, 2015

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Dr. Cameron Smith, Monday, 2-2-15

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Guest:  Dr. Cameron Smith.  Topics:  Interstellar human spaceflight, space settlement, our distant human future.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Cameron Smith to the program to discuss interstellar spaceflight and our distant human future.  You can see his lecture on this topic, “Interstellar Voyaging: An Evolutionary Transition” at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CprziVZHqBk.  During the first segment of our 91 minute program, we talked about the biological and cultural challenges involving interstellar flight.  When asked why he was interested in this field and doing research in it, he talked about how important it was to influence for the good our distant human future.  He talked about human success over time in adaptation as humanity is adaptable.  He then spoke to the need for species insurance.  John in Florida called in with Mars archaeological questions, wondering what may be left of a civilization after a billion years or so. We also talked about models from Earth archaeology around the world in places like the Middle East.  Our guest said there were plenty of unknowns in trying to extrapolate Earth archeology to Mars.  Another listener asked about robots versus humans, a topic our guest had much to say about.  The bottom line is that humans are still a much better tool but robots are also needed.  We talked about ways to influence policy makers and the importance of influencing the public.  You might be surprised by some of our guest’s comments.  We talked about Mars and he said it was a good first step.  He was then asked about the Moon as a first step.  He cited a comment by Dr. Zubrin suggesting that regarding the Moon, “the cops are too close!” Listen to how our guest explained this comment.  I asked several questions about student interest in interstellar spaceflight.  Other topics in this segment included extra terrestrial life and questions about Cydonia which our guest said he had studied in detail and concluded it was not from a past civilization.

In the second segment, Cydonia questions continued to come in and Dr. Smith elaborated on his studies and conclusions.  The Swedish website Glanta came up as our guest had an article published on the site. Their English language site is http://glanta.org/?page_id=2.  The ISS came up with listener questions and our guest was critical of it since it still does not have closed loop environmental and life support.  The field of exobiology was discussed as was the need for low cost space access.  Paula in Denver asked about the need to be inspiring and to inspire students and others regarding space, interstellar flight, and our distant human future.   Cameron said we needed to start with kids and that it was important to do so.  He also spoke to the need to make sure our students have and know how to use the skills of critical thought.  The ARM came up and Cameron said it make no natural sense.  He also said we should be getting serious about going to Mars.  During the show he was asked why this was important, going to Mars, human spaceflight, interstellar flight, all of it.  He cited the need to have a humanity insurance policy as from studying the past as he has done in his field, he is all too familiar with species, nations, cultures, and such becoming extinct.  It does happen and space settlement and interstellar human spaceflight are the insurance programs for our survival.  His concluding remarks repeated saying that space colonization was a responsibility, not a luxury.

Please post your comments on TSS blog above.  You can reach Dr. Smith through me or his university website, http://pdx.academia.edu/CameronMSmith.

Dr. Taylor Dark, Tuesday, 11-5-13 November 6, 2013

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Dr. Taylor Dark, Tuesday, 11-5-13

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Guest:  Dr. Taylor Dark.   Topics:  Space advocacy per his chapter “Reclaiming The Future: Space Advocacy And The Idea Of Progress.”  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Dr. Taylor Dark to the program to discuss his chapter on space advocacy, “Reclaiming The Future: Space Advocacy And The Idea Of Progress.” Dr. Dark’s chapter appeared in a NASA book around 2007, The Societal Impact of Spaceflight.  The .pdf version is a free download at http://history.nasa.gov/sp4801-part1.pdf.  You can read Dr. Dark’s chapter at www.taylordark.com/NASA%20Chapter.pdf.  For more information about our guest, please visit his website, www.taylordark.com. I urge you to read Dr. Dark’s chapter before listening to this program.  During the first segment of our 2 hour 1 minute discussion, Dr. Dark told us about his space advocacy background given that he started the first high school L5 organization when he was around 14 years old.  From there, we talked about aspects of space advocacy and specific personalities such as Dr. Zubrin and Taylor’s early fascination with O’Neill colonies.  He then described his shift to a different view of advocacy during his undergraduate college days.  Taylor went into detail about advocacy being connected to the idea of progress for humanity and listed three major space advocacy claims: (1) No limits on growth or human capacity; (2) All good things go together meaning elements of progress are linked together & are reinforcing; (3) Innate Directionality meaning progress is always probable.  He discussed these claims on air but he goes into them in detail in his chapter.  The utopian or messianic view of some advocates was discussed.  Dr. Dark also pointed out that space advocacy was not the only outlet for science, progress for humanity, etc.  Next, he talked about the frontier idea which he said was a weak argument.  He cited many national experiences that had had no frontier and have done well with their space program.  A listener asked our guest for his three top space arguments which were space exploration for more understanding of the universe, planetary defense of potential NEO hits, & commercial activity that was really profitable.  John called in to talk about the need for low cost space access and RLVs which would in turn cause space advocates to engage in lots of potentially profitable ventures. 

In our second segment, Doug called to talk about the probable costs of the O’Neill vision including the lunar base, SSP, & the habitat.  He suggested space tourism was a potential scalable profitable venture and he talked about space and lunar settlement.  Doug also talked about propellant in Earth orbit and satellites from LEO to GEO.  I spoke with Doug about project financing and how commercial or public sector project viability is analyzed which was different from what Doug talked about.  Taylor suggested that advocates don’t typically engage in something like project financing, instead opting for solutions that fit their advocacy agenda.  Taylor talked about the challenges of many advocacy claims including HE3 and fusion and the need for large space settlements.  As we were ending the discussion, Taylor was asked about the possible impact of microbial life being discovered, past or present, or ET.  We also talked about advocacy for inspiration & education and the impact of the Chinese program on advocacy and civil/commercial space. 

Please post comments/questions on The Space Show blog above. Dr. Dark can be reached through his website.

Charles Miller, Monday, 9-30-13 October 1, 2013

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Charles Miller, Monday, 9-30-13

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Guest:  Charles Miller.  Topics:  Commercial space, small satellites, commercial crew, human spaceflight & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Charles Miller back to The Space Show for this 1 hour 31 minute program.  During the first segment, Charles talked about the future of commercial space, extending the life of the ISS, managing risk and uncertainty to maximize returns and benefits for commercial space, plus he used the company he co-founded, NanoRacks, as a commercial model utilizing the national lab ISS.  We talked about commercial crew, the success of the Space Act Agreement for contracting and pockets of congressional resistance to the commercial and Space Act programs.  In discussing commercial opportunities on the ISS, we also talked about CASIS and the role it is playing in bridging the gap and facilitating commercial companies using the ISS.  Charles then talked about his company, NexGen Space LLC and he referenced the DARPA XS-1 Reusable Spaceplane.  A listener asked our guest about a possible influx of commercial opportunities from outside the U.S.  In response to this question, Charles talked about competing cultures and why the U.S. is so strong with its culture of innovation.  Commercial crew, human spaceflight, and the need to spend 6 months training in Russia were discussed with the latter being an impediment.  Suborbital demand was a topic as were the commercial efforts by Boeing, Sierra Nevada, ATK and other mainstream aerospace companies.

In our second segment, we talked about Kickstarter and the use of crowd funding in the emerging commercial space industry.  Innovation and low cost space access were key topics and themes for this segment.  Listener Jack asked about space entrepreneurial management teams & what to look for in a quality team.  I asked Charles to tell us where he thought the industry would be in ten years.  Charles talked about small satellite constellations, far more affordability across the board, and a large growth space tourism industry.  He also mentioned that the turning point will come when we have cheaper access to space than today. Toward the end of our discussion, Charles was asked for his suggestion for the best path to pursue for those seeking commercial space careers. In response, he talked about getting real hardware and flight experience & mentioned high schools that provide this experience.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog per above.  Charles Miller can be reached through me using drspace@thespaceshow.com.

DC-X 20th Anniversary Program, Sunday, 5-26-13 May 27, 2013

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DC-X 20th Anniversary Program, Sunday, 5-26-13

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Guests:  Dr. William Gaubatz, Cathy Harper, Nino Polizzi, Chris Orwoll.  Topics:  We discussed the DC-X SSTO rocket & its 20th anniversary celebration.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed Dr. William Gaubatz, Cathy Harper, Nino Polizzi, & Chris Orwoll to the program to discuss the 20th anniversary of the DC-X SSTO prototype rocket and the celebration planned for August 16-18 at Spaceport America and the New Mexico Museum of Space History in Alamogordo, NM.  Please visit their website for more information about the celebration and the DC-X: www.dc-xspacequest.org.  Our program was 1 hour 38 minutes in one segment.  Dr. Gaubatz started off with a DC-X overview and information about the anniversary celebration.  Bill was followed by Nino who talked about the DC-X team and participants in the event.  He also provided us with his email address for specific follow up per his discussion.  Please contact him directly about this program. Next, we talked with Cathy. She provided us with information about the conference, the logistics for the first day at Spaceport America, then the balance of the event in Alamogordo at the NM Museum of Space History.  We talked about the International Space Hall of Fame and the first ever team induction to the Hall of Fame.  The listeners and I asked several questions about a team induction and Cathy and then later the other guests explained the idea behind a team induction in addition to telling us who the DC-X team members were, including specific companies/contractors for the project.  Chris Orwoll spoke about the museum and its new relationship with the Smithsonian Institution as it is now a Smithsonian Affiliate.  We talked about the benefits for the NM museum with this new relationship.  Chris outlined new museum plans for the NewSpace addition with the DC-X SpaceQuest exhibit.  Listeners asked many questions via email and by telephone.  Jack from VA called in with questions about the team and the government contracting method used with DC-X.  Dave Ketchum called in to talk about the impact of DC-X on hobby rocketry.  Several listeners email in questions about why DC-X was cancelled, the politics of it, and one wanted to know who designed the aeroshell for the rocket.  Montana John emailed in asking about the payload mass fraction to the GTOW of the vehicle.  Chris also talked more about the museum and its plans, funding plans, and development already underway.  Listeners and the guests did spend time talking about the politics of the DC-X, SSTO, and low cost launches to LEO, along with the politics of it all then and now.  One question asked our guests had to do with why there was so much support & interest for DC-X 20 years after the project was cancelled.  Don’t miss our guest responses.  Toward the end, our guests summarized the conference logistics and plans for the DC-X celebration. Chris and Cathy then told us that the museum had been selected to house the NSS archives.  This is important so listen to what they had to say. If you have NSS or L5 archives, please contact them or the curator per their instructions.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  If you want to email either of the guests, you can do so through me.

Jason Andrews, Monday, 11-5-12 November 6, 2012

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Jason Andrews, Monday, 11-5-12

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Guest:  Jason Andrews.  Topics:  Cubesat, Nanosat integration, launch services, Andrew Space, Spaceflight & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. We welcomed back Jason Andrews to update us on both Andrews Space and Spaceflight.  You can follow along on the respective websites, http://andrews-space.com & www.spaceflightservices.com Jason was with us for one hour to discuss cubesat and nanosat payload integration, the services offered by Andrews Space and Spaceflight for small satellite launchers and related issues.  Spaceflight does publish their price list on their website and we did talk about their pricing.  Check it out at http://spaceflightservices.com/pricing-plans. We discussed market and financing conditions, the use of international launchers, integrating international payloads, ITAR, U.S. launchers and the possibility of using either Chinese or Indian launchers.  Jason went through their turnkey services offered with Spaceflight, then we talked about hardware and the integration of Andrews Space with Spaceflight.  Listeners asked lots of questions, including one about a sustainable lunar colony.  Other questions addressed the status of a secondary payload and general ride sharing terms, primary payload obligations and considerations, and the potential need for a dedicated small launcher.  Insurance was also talked about and included issues concerning self-insurance to buying insurance in the marketplace.  Many with payloads less than $1 million do opt for being self-insured.  Another issue talked about concerned secondary payload compatibility with the primary payload and the required safety audit for the secondary payload.  In talking about Andrews Space, Jason told us about the SHERPA Space Tug and the larger spacecraft using the ESPA Ring which closes the gap between a 3 kilo and 180 gram spacecraft. As our discussion with Jason ended, he talked about hiring opportunities for both companies and the availability of internships.
     In our brief second segment, I went over The Space Show schedule this week as programming has been cancelled for Tuesday due to wanting to watch election results and on Friday due to my probable jury duty.  I urge you to check the website newsletter Wednesday evening and then again Thursday evening because if my jury duty is cancelled, I will call up the scheduled Friday program and you will find out about it via the website newsletter.
     Please post your comments/questions for Jason Andrews on The Space Show blog.

Paul Breed, Tuesday, 10-30-12 October 31, 2012

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Paul Breed, Tuesday, 10-30-12

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Guest:  Paul Breed.  Topics:  Low cost space access & developing a nanosat launcher.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, & discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, & any discussion must be relevant & applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work, but must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright & trademark policies.  We welcomed back Paul Breed of Unreasonable Rockets to discuss space business plans, low cost space access, NewSpace outcomes to date, & his nanosat launcher business concept.  In our first segment of this two hour discussion, Paul started out by presenting us with an overview of space access & NewSpace vehicle development starting with the Shuttle through today.  We talked about both orbital & suborbital launches & his comparing the suborbital industry with the orbital launch industry.  He made a very good case for his comparison but see what you think after hearing our discussion.  Paul summarized & discussed the vehicles under development & then he gave us an overview of his nanosat launcher concept.  He told us that we could download & read his business plan & more at his blog, www.unreasonablerocket.blogspot.com.  He has three documents on his blog for your download & review.  In our discussion, Paul outlined his financial performance characteristics for his concept & responded to listener questions about it.  Charles called in to support Paul’s concept & to plug his Microlaunchers concept.  I brought in Dr. John Jurist on another line who joined in talking about the business plan Paul made available on his blog.  Some of the issues talked about were one man business operations as opposed to a company with staff, engineers, etc. key man insurance, venture capital considerations, company infrastructure, & funding levels.  We also talked about what makes an effective business plan.  John & Paul then entered a discussion about nanosat launcher first stages as opposed to needing a two or three stage rocket.
    In the second segment, the issue of venture capital flowing to hardware as opposed to software came up for discussion.  I referred to earlier programs plus a lecture we had at the NewSpace meeting about the flow going to software now, not hardware.  Paul continued on with some of the technical concepts for his nanosat launcher concept, we talked about the three components of cost plus market timing, financial interest in such a plan, & the fact that the nanosat launcher market is undergoing exponential growth.  Paul also talked about “hitchhiking” secondary payload rides, academic launches for cubesats & the market for the launches, & the interest in nanosat launchers outside the U.S., especially the entrepreneurial interest in such a business.  Paul talked about the fact that NASA has set very high expectations, that Hollywood movies have done the same & that such contributions to the industry are & have been destructive.  Don’t miss this discussion.  We talked about some of the newer technologies available today including 3D printing & crowd source financing as examples.  In concluding our discussion, Paul asked for listener feedback on his business plan & concept as well as for ideas using Kickstarter as a possible source of financing.
     Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog per above.  Paul can be reached directly through is own blog.

The John Batchelor Show, “Hotel Mars,” Wednesday, 5-9-12 May 10, 2012

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The John Batchelor Show, “Hotel Mars,” Wednesday, 5-9-12

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Guests:  John Batchelor, Dr. David Livingston. Topics: Responsive Space, Reinventing Space Conference 2012.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. During our 11.5 minute segment, John and I discussed many responsive space issues, dual use technology for DOD and the commercial industry concerning the responsive space goals of low cost launch, redundancy, backup, and the rapid replacement of space assets as needed on a case by case basis.  We talked about improving technology enabling us to evolve closer to a true responsive space capability.  Commercial space applications were discussed and I mentioned one conference talk about the possibility of commercializing weather satellites with the government buying the data rather than building, financing, deploying, and operating weather satellites.  For more information on the subject, visit the conference website, www.responsivespace.com.

If you want to email John Batchelor, you can do so through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.  Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.

Reinventing Space Conference 2012, Tuesday, 5-8-12 May 9, 2012

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Reinventing Space Conference 2012, Tuesday, 5-8-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1770-BWB-2012-05-08.mp3

Guests:  Open Mic at the Reinventing Space Conference 2012.  Topics:  Responsive space, low cost space access, Army satellite program, university projects, students & education, Dream Chaser, Women in Aerospace Southern California Chapter.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  This Space Show program was an “open mic” discussion for those attending the Reinventing Space Conference 2012.  The Space Show made its microphones available to those in attendance to speak on any topic of interest to them.  Our discussion topics included responsive space, low cost space access, pushing technology, the U.S. Army satellite program and the launch of the Army’s SMDC-One satellite, the first Army satellite launch in 50 years.  Others spoke about university projects, STEM education, the lack of interest in space /STEM subjects by among the younger population, challenges in the field of education, and the Women In Aerospace Southern California Chapter.  We started out with Dr. Jim Wertz providing us with an overview of the responsive space issues and what we can expect in the coming years.  George Vamos, Dr. Wertz & as Dr. Van Allen discussed offsets and technology trades in lowering launch costs.  Other participants talked about progress they have seen and experienced over their many years of working in the aerospace field.  We heard from Charles Kilmer on this subject.  He was followed by John London of the Army SMDC/ARSTRAT.  He talked about the first Army satellite launch in 50 years, the SMDC-One.  We also learned about future plans for Army satellites in support of the warfighter.  He  talked about the Army launching satellites the size of a loaf of bread and a bread box at 1/2000th the cost of a more traditional satellite.  Rachel and Krystal from Sierra Nevada spoke about Dream Chaser.  We learned more about their upcoming vehicle testing schedule as well as new agreements with Florida.  I also inquired about Dream Chaser for space tourism which as you will hear will follow their priority which is commercial crew to the ISS.  Larry Martin talked about his University of Hawaii project but we also had a participant from the University of N. Dakota and a recent graduate from Georgia Tech. I apologize for not getting their names for this program summary.  These students talked about the challenges in getting younger students interested and aware of space.  Our final participants represented Women In Aerospace and the Southern California Chapter.  Jeanne Innis Olson and Nicole Johnson spoke about the organization & their California chapter.  Those interested in learning more about the organization should contact Wendy Williams at wendy.williams@atk.com.

Please post your comments/questions regarding this program Space Show blog.  I have listed participant bios for those that have a bio on file with The Space Show.

Henry Vanderbilt, Thursday, 3-22-12 March 23, 2012

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Henry Vanderbilt, Thursday, 3-22-12

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Guest:  Henry Vanderbilt.  Topics:  Space Access Society Conference, Phoenix, ArizonaApril 12-14, 2012.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed back Henry Vanderbilt to the program to discuss the upcoming Space Access Society Conference, April 12-14, 2012 to be held at the Grace Inn in Phoenix, Arizona. For the conference agenda, registration and full hotel information, visit www.space-access.org.  During the first part of our initial segment, Henry provided us with an historical overview of not only the development and evolution of the Space Access Society meetings and conference, but also his own personal work in the space arena leading up to his excellent space activism of today which focuses on the space transportation issue.  This is a comprehensive look at activities that have brought space exploration and development to today since about 1986.  While Henry has been a frequent Space Show guest, this is perhaps the most detailed look we have had from him regarding his space evolution and the rise in importance of the Space Access Society (SAS).  Later in this nearly hour long segment and until our break, Henry highlighted many of the speakers that will be at the conference.  You can see the full list and the three day agenda at www.space-access.org/updates/sa12info.html.

In our second segment, we talked about more of the speakers but mainly focused on those that would address policy and budget issues as not all of the SAS speakers are on the business/entrepreneurial side of space development.  Some of the highlights included the NASA Chief Technology Office, ULA, policies for going beyond LEO, and advocacy on issues supported by SAS.  As part of this discussion, we talked about SLS, ISS, Space X, depots, and budgetary pressures on NASA and key members of congress.

If you have comments/questions, please post them on The Space Show blog URL.  If you have questions for Henry about SAS, you can email him at space.access@space-access.org.

Dr. Jeff Bell, Monday, 2-20-12 February 21, 2012

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Dr. Jeff Bell, Monday, 2-20-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1717-BWB-2012-02-20.mp3

Guest:  Dr. Jeff Bell.  Topics:  Dr. Bell’s assessment of NASA, the science missions, human spaceflight, the Russian space problems, & Phobos-Grunt conspiracy theories.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed Dr. Jeff Bell back to the program for his assessment of space today in theUnited States, along with the problems facing the Russian space industry and the Phobos-Grunt conspiracy theories as to why the mission failed.  Those familiar with Dr. Bell and his Space Show programs will not be disappointed as this two hour plus discussion is vintage Jeff Bell.  Dr. Bell started with an assessment of the problems over the last year and half or so with the Russian space industry and its management.  Jeff does a good job of summarizing their history of manufacturing, technology, and engineering problems going back to the time of Sergei Korolev.  He also shares with us his experiences working with the Russians on the Phobos 88 mission.  He said typical characteristics of Russian missions leading to problems include being too ambitious, costly for their budgets, and the labor allocated to the projects.  He suggested that we in theU.S. do the same thing and cited MSL and Curiosity as an example.  He had much to say about the early Soviet Venus probes and how their data was widely discounted outside of theSoviet Union. He then said Space X might be overextending and he cited several ongoing Space X projects which might distract from their primary mission at hand which is to get Falcon and Dragon operational.  Listeners asked about the Russian problems driving customers away from doing business withRussia in favor of ULA in theU.S. Here, Dr. Bell had much to say about ULA pricing, overhead costs without NASA sharing them, and more.  He also mentioned what was happening to Delta 2 given the GPS system needing larger rockets as an example of the impact of government policy/spending in space industries.  Dr. Bell turned to the latest Phobos-Grunt conspiracy theories for the mission failure.  At the end of this segment, Dr. Bell talked about the JWST & Curiosity in terms of overly complex and costly missions.

In the second segment, Jeff talked about the Newt space policy suggestions and the idea of the Moon as the 51st state.  He had much to say about the ridicule in the media and was not surprised by it.  He used this as an example to say reality “conflicts with the space cadet world view.”   In talking about Mars missions, he said people had been conned by the Mars theory of life stories and promoters.  He said that Mars and HSF were not worth it.  Several listeners called in to debate Jeff on these comments but Jeff took no prisoners.  He then talked about the ISS and its less than full utilization and that the entire idea of HSF had come and gone.  At one point in response to a listener question/comment, Dr. Bell said that all Zubrin offered was a 60’s program!  Jeff did have good things to say about the science and robotic missions, said our planet exploration would be with robots, not humans, and that we needed more missions like the Kepler Space Telescope.  He repeated throughout the discussion that nothing useful has come form HSF nor would it.  He offered that the basic technology was from the70’s and had not changed.  He said overall interest in space had declined since Apollo.  In his closing comments, he said he was still hopeful that NewSpace would decrease the launch costs as that would be a game changer.

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