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Charles Miller, Friday, 8-14-15 August 15, 2015

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Charles Miller, Friday, 8-14-15

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Guest: Charles Miller. Topic: The “Evolvable Lunar Architecture that Leverages Commercial Space Capabilities and Public Private Partnerships” study. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Charles Miller to discuss in detail the recently released NASA Study, “Evolvable Lunar Architecture that Leverages Commercial Space Capabilities and Public Private Partnerships.” You can read and download the report, “Evolvable Lunar Architecture that Leverages Commercial Space Capabilities and Public Private Partnerships” at http://titan04.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/nexgen/Nexgen_Downloads/NexGen_ELA_Report_FINAL.pdf. During the first segment of our 1 hour 39 minute show, Charles introduced us to the study, the background as to why the need for the study, plus he said that to find an affordable way to move humans out into the cosmos there needed to be an affordable way to do it. He briefly summarized the history of efforts to return to the Moon since Apollo, then explained why this new approach, modeled after the COTS program, was so much better. Through the creative use of the public-private partnership program, returning to the Moon can be easier and more affordable. Charles was asked lots of listener questions including questions that addressed the TRL level of both NASA and the private companies to go to the moon, public and private risk taking, commercial competition, and the strategic use of fuel depots to further reduce mission costs. He explained their program step by step through three phases. Listener Dan asked a series of question about robots being serviced on the Moon, asking if the humans would be better placed elsewhere to control the lunar robots using low latency telepresence rather than humans on the Moon. Don’t miss how Charles responded to this series of questions that Dan emailed us. BJohn was also active with questions ranging from asking about the Lunar Mission One program to questions about the costs and assumptions used in the NASA study, even the use of GEO. Other listeners wanted to know about lunar settlement as part of this study, lunar habitats, and using L2 rather than the lunar surface. Listeners also asked Charles about lunar microgravity issues and radiation. Charles had the most to say about radiation issues. Later in the segment he said the plan called for a migration of the initial program to something like an international lunar authority modeled after CERN and modern airport authorities. Dan asked another question about getting astronauts off the moon in an emergency wondering if there would be greater safety margins if humans were not required on the lunar surface. Charles indicated that there would be a lunar escape system on the Moon. When questioned about the economics, it was clear that the study had in mind to facilitate human expansion BLEO so options not expanding the human presence BLEO were not options considered for the study. Todd asked if SLS was considered in their analysis. The answer was no as they only looked at commercial launch options, not government launchers. More questions came up about how the project would be financed relative to the NASA budget. Don’t miss this analysis and explanation.

In the second segment, BJohn asked about the Falcon Heavy regarding fuel depots. Charles said it was a LEO only launcher so not considered in their study. More listener questions came in regarding depots. BJohn also asked about the use of GEO. Charles explained why this was not an option. Eric and Charles had quite the email exchange about needing humans on the lunar surface. Charles said they were primarily there to repair and maintain the robots and equipment. Eric kept asking about using robots for the repair and maintenance but Charles said that technology was not available at this time. Their give and take was a good discussion of the subject. As Charles pointed out, since a commercial company would be on the moon with the robots, they would have every reason to advance their technology to be more cost effective so moving toward robotic servicing of the lunar surface robots would be something a company would be motivated to do to save on operating costs. However, that technology was not available today. Listener Josh wanted to know about other potential lunar businesses including lunar tourism. Charles was asked about lunar cubesats, then near the end he was asked about property rights and lunar resource exploitation. As the program was about to end, we talked about the political process and progress the study needed to make as it worked its way through the policy makers, Congress, and others. Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above.

You can reach Charles Miller through his company, NextGen Space LLC or me.

 

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Russell Cox, Tuesday 8-11-15 August 12, 2015

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Russell Cox, Tuesday 8-11-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2524-BWB-2015-08-11.mp3

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Guest: Russell Cox. Topics: The Lunar Initiatives Workshops. See www.lunarinitiatives.com. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed Russell Cox to the program for our 92 minute discussion of the Lunar Initiatives workshops. Follow us at www.lunarinitiatives.com. Russell began the discussion by providing us with the background that led him to create the Lunar Initiatives workshop series. The start goes back to 2009 with the lunar missions that showed there was water ice at the poles. He said this changed the Moon and science for all time and opened up an entirely new realm of lunar possibilities and opportunities. He spent some time discussing the key lunar missions & their significance. Next, we turned our attention to the Lunar Workshops, Lunar Art, and the Lunar Challenges. All are described on his website so check them out. Regarding the workshops, he has a LunarCubes workshop, the Lunar Surface Applications workshop, the Lunar Scientific Opportunities in Cislunar Space (SOCS) workshop, and the Lunar Conference. Read about all of these events on his website but for our discussion, we mostly talked about LunarCubes and cubesats, Cislunar space, and near the end of the show, LunarArt. In addition to discussing The Lunar Initiatives events, Russell talked about returning to the Moon, lunar hackathons, prizes and contests, entrepreneurial efforts to go to the Moon, the Google Lunar XPRIZE, cubesats, the Do It Yourself (DIY) emerging markets, and more. Listeners asked him questions about lunar exploration, the technology readiness level of the entrepreneurs wanting to develop a business for going to the Moon, lunar settlement, lunar habitats, and using the Moon as a stepping stone for other solar system destinations. Don’t miss his response to these questions.

 

In the second segment, Russell spent more time on human lunar exploration and settlement and the need to push the technology today to do what we can today rather than waiting to be able to do more in future years. He said the road to the Moon is open! Russell described several existing opportunities including one by Space Systems Loral that you will find interesting. A listener asked him if we needed to focus on developing cislunar transportation, then our conversation switched to Lunar Art and their programs and contests in this area. He said poetry and short stories were included in this category and the contest. Late in the segment, Tim called in to raise questions about settlement given the possibility of gamma ray bursts plus comments from Dr. John Lewis regarding the Moon. Before the show ended, our guest addressed a few more listener emails, then spoke more about the LunarCubes program and website, www.lunarcubes.com.

 

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Dr. Bruce Damer, Friday, 6-12-15 June 12, 2015

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Dr. Bruce Damer, Friday, 6-12-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2492-BWB-2015-06-12.mp3

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Guest:  Dr. Bruce Damer.  Topics:  Sustainable space exploration to Mars & elsewhere per his two TEDxSantaCruz talks.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed Dr. Bruce Damer back to the show to discuss his two new TEDxSantaCruz talks regarding sustainable space exploration and new theories on the origins of life.  Watch the first of his two TEDx talks on sustainable space exploration at www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLMHcUg36yc.  His second TEDx talk addressing new theories on the origins of life can be viewed at www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qiW4aUqtvA.  In the first segment of our 1 hour 28 minute discussion, Dr. Damer introduced us to his concept for sustainable space exploration, including round trips to Mars.  His spacecraft is the S.H.E.P.E.R.D   which he fully explained with great animation in the TEDx talk.  This is a method for capturing and enclosing a small but valuable asteroid between Mars and Jupiter, using a chemical process to mine it for volatiles and to fill special tanks with the volatiles and return the cargo to where it is needed, Mars, the moons of Mars, cislunar space, the Moon, or an orbiting space station.  Bruce spent the first segment of our program discussing this technology and the concept, plus explaining how it can be used to facilitate and enhance human spaceflight including human exploration of the solar system.  The YouTube video is just under 10 minutes so be sure to watch it.  Listeners asked him many questions to fully understand the concept so the YouTube talk and his Space Show discussion go hand in hand with one another.

 

In the second segment, Bruce as asked about the cost to develop, launch, and operate S.H.E.P.E.R.D for a humans to Mars mission.  Bruce did not have costs available but used the Rosetta Mission as an approximate guideline for estimating costs. Also in this segment, he noted the use of inflatables in space and the long history of success in using them back to the early days of the space age and the Echo communication satellites.  He also referenced Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 on orbit through Bigelow Aerospace.  He then said that inflatables would be safer for humans due to less radiation.  Don’t miss his comment on this issue.  Bruce then talked about water and shielding.  As the program was nearing its end, Dr. Damer discussed the second TEDx talk regarding new theories on the origins of life.  He also connected the dots for us with both talks so don’t miss what he had to say. By the way, the sustainable space exploration talk opened the TEDx session and his origins of life talk was the closing talk at the event.  Toward the end, he talked about outreach with his new idea and said he would be giving a FISO talk on S.H.E.P.E.R.D June 24 so those of you who listen to FISO talks be sure to catch this one live or on archives.  Before the show ended, Bill emailed in a question asking him if he had a compelling rational for Martian HSF.  Don’t miss what he said about this.  A Phoenix listener asked Dr. Damer if his concept would help Mars One.  Then a series of questions came in asking Bruce about the use of his idea for going to the Moon, cislunar development, the moons of Mars or someplace else in the solar system.  Bruce said it would support all of these missions and explained why.  Jim asked Bruce to explain why he thought mining an asteroid would be so difficult and far out yet he was mining volatiles from the asteroids he covers up with his plan.  Bruce explained that he was using a chemical process to free up the volatiles, not mining them.

 

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Open Lines and 2014 Predictions, Sunday, 12-22-13 December 23, 2013

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Open Lines and 2014 Predictions, Sunday, 12-22-13

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Guest: Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  Space predictions for 2014, SLS, Mars One, Inspiration Mars, radiation, policy, and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

Welcome to our final Open Lines program for 2013.  This two hour 1 minute discussion also included space industry predictions for 2014 per our callers.  Note that the first segment was long, 90 minutes, followed by a shorter second segment.  In the first segment, I suggested seeing the NASA Earthrise 45 anniversary recreation of the Apollo 8 Earthrise photo that was released by NASA Goddard.  Andy Chaikin helped create it and does the narration.  It shows where the astronauts were coming around the Moon on Apollo 8 and how they managed to see Earthrise and get the famous picture.  You can hear the astronauts talk about it as they scramble to take the photo.  See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE-vOscpiNc.  Mike Listener was our first caller about Mars One and his being doubtful the program will ever get off the ground. Besides believing they will have sticker shock from the pending Lockheed Martin study, he doubted their capability as do I and others that called into the show.  He deferred predicting re the Code of Conduct until 2015.  SLS John from Ft. Worth called in and said congress would avoid confrontation so he predicted SLS and Orion would continue for 2014.  He also said Mars One would not happen.  We talked about radiation and the recent Classroom program addressing the subject, the Chinese lunar mission getting attention, and then he said we need a competitor to shake us up (China?).  He also was not optimist on Inspiration Mars.  Falcon Heavy Doug called in to discuss the Falcon Heavy 2014 flight which was on the SpaceX manifest.  He predicted three things for 2014:  Virgin flight, SpaceX getting close to hover technology over the ocean with about 8 flights for 2014 with good recovery progress being made, and #3, the launch of Falcon Heavy.  He thought 2015 might prove more interesting.  He repeated the Mars One comments and then he mentioned that our recent radiation Classroom show should have focused more on solutions. He gave an example using a lunar settlement scenario.  He also discounted the need to have a hab on the Moon equal the same radiation protection as provided by Earth’s atmosphere, instead suggesting 80% of that protection level would suffice for a three year lunar mission.

In the second segment, Dr. Charles Lurio called on a bad cell phone connection.  He concurred about the Virgin flight with Branson aboard, but also pitched XCOR, having much to say about their progress.  He also talked about the ISS and its growing list of commercial opportunities. When asked about Google Lunar XPrize, he said he was pessimistic. Listen to his comment for the details.  Regarding HSF, it needs to get cheaper and we need a commercial space transportation system.  He also talked about SLS and recent proposals to make the project cancel proof.

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