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Jay Wittner, Ron Jones, Sunday, 10-18-15 October 19, 2015

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Jay Wittner, Ron Jones, Sunday, 10-18-15

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Guests: Jay Wittner, Ron Jones. Topics: The Integrated Space Plan which is a real and detailed timeline of our future in space for the next 100 years. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed both Jay Wittner and Ron Jones to the program to discuss the Integrated Space Plan (ISP), “a real and detailed timeline of our future in space for the next 100 years. Vehicles, Stations, Settlements, Moon, Mars, Asteroids.” You can see the ISP at https://integratedspaceanalytics.com/cms/plan and also their previously successful Kickstarter site, www.kickstarter.com/projects/486671231/integrated-space-plan-envisioning-humanitys-future. Wired Magazine did an excellent article on the plan which you can download and read at www.wired.com/2015/08/wildly-detailed-100-year-plan-getting-humans-mars.. Discovery also did a nice article on the ISP dated Oct. 16, 2015 which you can read and download @ http://news.discovery.com/space/private-spaceflight/isp-the-ultimate-plan-to-launch-humanity-to-the-stars-151016.htm. During the first segment, Ron provided us with the history of the ISP which goes back several decades. He explained its purpose and how it has changed and evolved over time. In fact, later in the show I asked our guests if the time had finally come for the ISP to come into its own given the developments and progress in space development. You will certainly want to hear this discussion which comes much later in the show. The first segment is mostly devoted to describing the ISP and responding to basic listener questions about it as it was new to most listeners. I also urge you to look at it on the web using the above links so you can be come familiar with the plan and its blocks. Remember, it is a broad enabling approach that includes many different paths to accomplish space development, exploration and a spacefaring economy/society. It is not about a specific program or project as we are used to discussing on The Space Show. Specific plans and projects can nicely fit in the appropriate blocks on the ISP as the ISP is a collection of logical and plausible multiple paths to space development without saying this or that specific plan is THE plan we must follow. Toward the end of the first segment, John in Freemont, CA asked about the Shackleton Energy plan as was recently discussed on The Space Show. This was a good example for our guests to show how the ISP could nicely accommodate the Shackleton plan but that the ISP was actually much broader and more inclusive than just the three part Shackleton plan discussed on The Space Show. As you will hear, there is no conflict between the two.

In the second segment, Jay was asked how people could get a poster copy of the ISP. Jay and Ron told listeners how to order a poster copy (the rolled version in a tube is the best way to get it). We also talked about support for the ISP by many from within all segments of the space industry. Later, much was said about outreach for the private sector and also the student population, especially through SEDS. Jay and Ron invited listener participation and feedback and they gave out their respective email addresses or told listeners how to find their addresses on their website, www.thespaceplan.com.   We talked about disruptive technologies and how they were represented on the ISP. GPS was used as an example since I referenced Uber from our Friday Space Show program. As part of our disruptive discussion, our guests talked about SpaceX, the Falcon Heavy, reusability, and more. A listener asked about cislunar development and how that was represented on the ISP. Frequent Space Show guest Gerald Driggers called in with many interesting comments so make sure you listen to his discussion. His call was followed by John from Ft. Worth asking about actual markets & customers for the businesses.  Our guests talked about the key to customers would be lowering the cost to orbit, then they mentioned space tourism and specific payloads. As our program was ending, both guests offered closing comments and take away statements.   Both made a final appeal for listener participation and feedback as the ISP is a continuingly evolving plan.

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Russell Cox, Tuesday 8-11-15 August 12, 2015

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Russell Cox, Tuesday 8-11-15

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Guest: Russell Cox. Topics: The Lunar Initiatives Workshops. See www.lunarinitiatives.com. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed Russell Cox to the program for our 92 minute discussion of the Lunar Initiatives workshops. Follow us at www.lunarinitiatives.com. Russell began the discussion by providing us with the background that led him to create the Lunar Initiatives workshop series. The start goes back to 2009 with the lunar missions that showed there was water ice at the poles. He said this changed the Moon and science for all time and opened up an entirely new realm of lunar possibilities and opportunities. He spent some time discussing the key lunar missions & their significance. Next, we turned our attention to the Lunar Workshops, Lunar Art, and the Lunar Challenges. All are described on his website so check them out. Regarding the workshops, he has a LunarCubes workshop, the Lunar Surface Applications workshop, the Lunar Scientific Opportunities in Cislunar Space (SOCS) workshop, and the Lunar Conference. Read about all of these events on his website but for our discussion, we mostly talked about LunarCubes and cubesats, Cislunar space, and near the end of the show, LunarArt. In addition to discussing The Lunar Initiatives events, Russell talked about returning to the Moon, lunar hackathons, prizes and contests, entrepreneurial efforts to go to the Moon, the Google Lunar XPRIZE, cubesats, the Do It Yourself (DIY) emerging markets, and more. Listeners asked him questions about lunar exploration, the technology readiness level of the entrepreneurs wanting to develop a business for going to the Moon, lunar settlement, lunar habitats, and using the Moon as a stepping stone for other solar system destinations. Don’t miss his response to these questions.

 

In the second segment, Russell spent more time on human lunar exploration and settlement and the need to push the technology today to do what we can today rather than waiting to be able to do more in future years. He said the road to the Moon is open! Russell described several existing opportunities including one by Space Systems Loral that you will find interesting. A listener asked him if we needed to focus on developing cislunar transportation, then our conversation switched to Lunar Art and their programs and contests in this area. He said poetry and short stories were included in this category and the contest. Late in the segment, Tim called in to raise questions about settlement given the possibility of gamma ray bursts plus comments from Dr. John Lewis regarding the Moon. Before the show ended, our guest addressed a few more listener emails, then spoke more about the LunarCubes program and website, www.lunarcubes.com.

 

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Dr. Arlin Crotts, Monday, 2-16-15 February 17, 2015

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Dr. Arlin Crotts, Monday, 2-16-15

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Guest:  Dr. Arlin Crotts.  Topics:  Lunar exploration, commerce, & human development in addition to many related topics.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Arlin Crotts back to the show to discuss his new book, “The New Moon: Water, Exploration, and Future Habitation” plus lunar related science and development issues & concerns. For more information, visit Dr. Crotts website, http://user.astro.columbia.edu/~arlin/research.html.  In the first segment of our 93 minute program, I asked Dr. Crotts to summarize lunar science and development progress since his last appearance on TSS, Oct. 27, 2009 through today.  Dr. Crotts had much say in this summary, especially with lunar water, hydroxyls, minerals, LCROSS, volatiles, and more.  Don’t miss this summary. Listeners asked many questions about INSITU Resource Utilization on the Moon, polar ice, water ice, volatiles, fuel possibilities, and more.  I asked if he had detected an increase in the public’s awareness of the Moon and many of these issues plus I wanted his thoughts on the private sector commercial opportunities and plans opening up for the Moon.  The balance of this segment featured calls and listeners emails asking about the lunar poles, volatiles, craters & the Resolve Mission.

In the second segment, Dr. Crotts was asked about the Lunar Mission One Kickstarter project and their wanting to drill 100m into the Moon.  Dr. Crotts did not comment on the project but did talk about why we needed more and deeper lunar drilling exploration.  Our guest also talked about his book in detail in this segment, saying it was very detailed, well documented and supported, and that readers would learn things about the Moon not previously known or written about given his access to original lunar exploration and Apollo documents.  Other topics in this segment addressed humans to Mars or the moons of Mars, the timing of human lunar settlement which he supported but not until we know much more about the Moon to do it safely and correctly.  We talked about this approach in some detail.  Space settlement was discussed and he said it would happen sooner or later but that we needed more lunar science first before we settled the Moon.  Near the end of the segment, Dr. Crotts was asked about NASA’s ARM project.  Space mining came up and then just before the program ended, Eric inquired about Transit Lunar Phenomena (see http://user.astro.columbia.edu/~arlin/TLP).  Tim was our last caller asking about the use of RTGs.  Dr. Crotts talked about reactors on the Moon and mentioned the smaller Toshiba 4G reactor.

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Dr. Doug Plata, Sunday, 2-1-15 February 2, 2015

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Dr. Doug Plata, Sunday, 2-1-15

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2405-BWB-2015-02-01.mp3

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Guest:  Dr. Doug Plata.  Topics:  The initial lunar base for colonization.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Dr. Doug Plata to the show to discuss his ideas and concepts for an initial lunar base which he named Lunar Base One.  Follow along with this important website.   http://www.cislunarone.com/lunarbaseone.htm.  Be sure to click on the link in the upper left hand corner to download the Lunar Base One Reference Material. In the first segment of our 2 hour 1 minute discussion, Doug focused on introducing us to his Lunar Base One concept and Lunar Cots.  To follow this discussion, make sure you go to the Lunar Base One website per the above URL as he follows the information on that site for our discussion.  During Doug’s discussion, he took calls and emails from listeners on a wide range of associated topics, questions, and comments.  Listener questions covered telerobotics, wireless power transfer, artificial gravity & the use of a centrifuge at the base, wired power as in missile wire, laser beam power, battery usage, lunar dust, radiation, water, a lunar greenhouse, and check lists re solar panels, propellant, fuel cells, radiation, and more.

In the second segment, Eric called using a cell in Florida to discuss robotics over humans.  Later, Doug was asked if returning to the Moon would divert resources needed for going to Mars, the moons of Mars, or even an asteroid.  Don’t miss his response to this question.  BJohn asked about line of site communications with Earth or if there would be a need for lots of communication satellites.  Doug and John from Ft. Worth had an interesting discussion on several key points, then Doug spoke to lunar tourism, the transportation needs, then I asked him about changing space policy.  Specifically, I asked what he would say before Congress re changing our policy as to why the Moon were he to testify before both House and Senate committees.  Give your ideas on this on the blog because no matter how cool the technology and engineering may be, without a policy to go back to the Moon, most likely nothing will happen.  Rasmus called from Toronto suggesting the use of mylar over a small crater. You don’t want to miss this discussion.  As the show was drawing to a close, Doug spoke about his return to the Moon track at this year’s Space-Access Conference  which will be in Phoenix in late April.  He finished up his discussion talking about artificial gravity, the use of a long arm centrifuge on the Moon running at about a 5.4 RPM by the lunar team.  He also spoke about inflatables and what he learned in his discussions with the University of Maine professor.

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               MJ-2011c

Dr. Doug Plata, Sunday, 3-16-14 March 17, 2014

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Dr. Doug Plata, Sunday, 3-16-14

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Guest:  Dr. Doug Plata.  Topics:  Selected trades for the Cis-Lunar One Transportation Architecture as developed by Dr. Plata.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. Please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Dr. Doug Plata to the show to discuss his selected trades for his Cis-Lunar One Transportation Architecture.  You can find Doug’s Choices of Selected Trades document on The Space Show blog at https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com under the summary for this particular program and date.  In the first segment of our 2 hour 6 minute discussion, Dr. Plata started out giving us an overview of his project, mostly by reading to us the “Overview of the Cis-lunar One Architecture” which is part of his document on our blog.  In addition, Dr. Plata wants your feedback regarding his project, including constructive criticism.  You can email Dr. Plata at dougspace007@gmail.com.  After discussing the project overview with us, Doug started addressing the trades listed in his document.  We started with Trade 1 Launcher.  Doug went through all of his considerations for launchers, was clear that he was not ruling any particular rocket out of the question.  Make sure you note his “Table1: Choice of Launcher & Fuel.”  The led us to discussing payload issues for the mission.  Also note that Doug has named his lunar craft the Condor upper state LL as you will see that name show up throughout our discussion.  Doug then went to Trade #2 and discussed propellant choices.  Note his Table showing the specifics of his Choice of Fuels assuming 53 tons at LEO and a 15% dry mass.  He received several listener questions, including questions about where to on the Moon.  See Trade 8 Initial Landing Sites for his choices and reasoning.  We skipped to Trade 12 Power in Shadows.  He discussed power options in some detail and went through the four options listed in this trade.  Mary Beth sent in some questions asking Doug about his propulsion discussion and Marshall called in with a series of questions about ice and the regolith.  Doug then took us to Trade 17 Repairs.

In our second segment, Doug started with Trade 17 repairs, focusing on redundancy, spare parts, & surface equipment easy designs.  Later in the segment, Dr. Plata was asked about lunar dust and maintenance/problems for the equipment.  A listener emailed him about market possibilities, our guest fielded other listener email questions and then Doug addressed Trade 9 Landed Configurations including belly landings and tail landings. Trade 14 Surface Equipment was discussed, then John called in to talk about a needed detailed lunar surface survey.  I asked our guest for his detailed cost projections for his mission followed by his next step in promoting his architecture.  He talked about having called his Congressman, Representative Mark Takano.

Please post comments/questions/feedback on TSS blog per above.  You can also email Dr. Plata at his above email address, plus its on his trade document which is on TSS blog.

Dr. Young K. Bae, Monday, 11-18-13 November 19, 2013

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Dr. Young K. Bae, Monday, 11-18-13

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Guest:  Dr. Young K. Bae.  Topics: Photonic Laser Thrusters(PLT) & the Photonic Railway.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed back to the program Dr. Young K. Bae to discuss his award winning research and work with Photonic Laser Thrusters (PLT) and his Photonic Railway concepts.  During the first segment of this 90 minute program, Dr. Bae provided us with the background for his interest in PLT and just exactly what it was that he was working on.  Do note that PLT would be for in space use, not for launching out of Earth’s gravity field.  Dr. Bae’s discussion is somewhat technical so it might help be following with his website, www.ykbcorp.com and the article about his NIAC award,   http://www.nasa.gov/spacetech/niac/2013phaseII_bae.html.  He talked about the use of mirrors, ISP, chemical rocket fuel comparisons, and more.  In terms of technology readiness levels, its not there yet but it is evolving.  Dr. Bae was asked to describe his four-step developmental plan to achieve human interstellar flight using PLTs.  Briefly, the four steps are 1) Development of PLTs for satellites and NEO manipulation, 2) Interlunar Photonic Railway (a two-way multi-stage PLT system), 3) Interplanetary Photonic Railway, and 4) Interstellar Photonic Railway.  He discussed each step in some detail.  We also talked about faster than light travel and time lines required for PLT development. We learned than interstellar PLT travel is maybe a century or more away.  Going to the Moon would be about ten years away.  Dr. Bae spoke for the need of a commercial return to make the projects viable. Based on this discussion, we talked about the role for government and the private sector in space and technology development.  Additional topics in this section included Silicon Valley criteria and mindset, the old Bell Labs, NIAC, and writing scientific papers that do not add to the bottom line.  Joe wanted to have a definition of his Photonic Railway so Dr. Bae went into more detail on this concept.

In the second segment, Dr. Bae was asked to talk about the new NIAC as opposed to what it was like before when it was shut down.  Dr. Bae offered a great before and after comparison.  Listner Ben asked about PLT competition and this took us into a discussion on high powered lasers.  Pooley called in with questions and comments about the collector and the deceleration process plus the reflectors.  Both Charles and Dr. Bae spoke about the earlier work of Dr. Robert Forward.  Charles also asked about formation flying.  Near the end, Sally asked about Advanced Soft X-ray Technology, then we talked more about fusion, and finally Barbara wanted to know when you know it is time to pull the plug on your research and move on.  This was a great discussion, don’t miss it.

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Michael Belfiore, Monday, 10-21-13 October 22, 2013

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Michael Belfiore, Monday, 10-21-13

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Guest:  Michael Belfiore.  Topics:  XCOR, space tourism, commercial space, DARPA, robotics, and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Michael Belfiore back to the show to discuss his recent XCOR Aerospace article (see www.airspacemag.com/space-exploration/The-Lynxs-Leap-223968551.html).  For more information, visit Michael’s website,  http://michaelbelfiore.com.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 44 minute program, Michael talked extensively about XCOR Aerospace and the Lynx per his above Air and Space Magazine article.  Michael has been a long time follower of XCOR and it shows in this discussion.  We also talked about the other suborbital companies and space tourism in general.  Michael was asked about XCOR’s plans to go orbital from suborbital which was another topic Michael had much to say about.  He said his preference was to fly on a Lynx for the more personal and intimate space experience, including wearing a space suit.  Michael said he was bullish about the overall space tourism industry, he is attracted to the growing small satellite industry but remains partial to human spaceflight.  We talked about SLS which he tends to ignore and discount, SpaceX and Orbital Sciences.  The topic of Cislunar space development came up and while Michael said he was supportive, he is drawn to asteroid economic development.  Before our segment ended, he updated us on the Google Lunar XPrize and I congratulated him for winning the NewSpace Journalism Award this year.

In the second segment, Michael was asked about DARPA which he follows. We talked about Starship 100, the DARPA management style & out of the box operations, the Dec. 20th robotic competition that Michael will attend, plus other important attributes of DARPA.  He mentioned upcoming magazine articles he will be writing for Popular Mechanics and AEON Magazine.  Michael was asked about other national space programs including China’s, Russia’s, and more. Doug called to talk about interstellar DARPA activities, and his cislunar economic ideas.  We also talked about returning to the Moon for settlement.

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Dr. Haym Benaroya, Tuesday, 8-13-13 August 14, 2013

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Dr. Haym Benaroya, Tuesday, 8-13-13

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Guest:  Dr. Haym Benaroya.  Topics:  Lunar data analysis, Return to the Moon, space policy & more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Dr. Haym Benaroya, mechanical and aerospace engineer at Rutgers University, back to the show to discuss lunar thermal and seismic analysis, space policy, human spaceflight, Mars, and more.  Our intention was to do a one hour program but due to incoming listener phone calls, this program lasted for 1 hour 39 minutes without a break!  In addition, the discussion at times with callers was quite heated, very passionate and ripe with disagreement, especially between callers and myself.  Frankly, there were times I just had enough of the gloom and doom and the la la land fantasy stuff so I blasted back on what the callers more than the guest were saying.  We started the program with an update from Dr. Benaroya on thermal and seismic analysis of lunar data collected from sensors left on the Moon by the Apollo missions.  The data has been run through new models for up to date processing.  As it turns out, for seismic activity, an igloo like structure which Dr. Benaroya described is probably the best for the habitat. Also, he said only flimsy items such as an antenna would like be risky structures due to lunar seismic activity.  I asked him to compare lunar seismic activity to the seismic activity of California and Japan.  We have it much worse here on Earth!  We talked about radiation issues & Haym suggested about 10 feet of regolith on the top of the hab would probably be OK other than for a solar event.  He also said much more data was needed for actual lunar structural engineering.  I asked him what the first lunar settlers would do during their day and this took us to HSF to Mars issues, microgravity concerns, and the Moon as a stepping stone to Mars.  John Hunt was the first of the callers, focusing on policy with the politicians.  Haym talked 3D printing with him, then I asked John if the program he was describing could be done in 10 years.  After forcing him to provide us with a yes no answer, he said no. Haym said the same but both agreed technology was not the problem, leadership was the problem.  We talked the need for profits for private ventures and opened up public/private partnerships for discussion on the show.  I asked both how to start implementing their plans & that was the opening salvo of the fireworks that unfolded for the rest of the show.  Doug called next and talked about his ideas for what astronauts on the Moon would do and his lunar development ideas.  I then challenged both caller and guest to outline their steps for making their happen.  I thought their implementation plans were severely lacking and opened up on each of them but more so on Doug for the balance of his call.  Haym said the first step was to rebuild U.S. launch capabilities. Doug had a different first step & talked about government funding as in a private/public partnership similar to what SpaceX has with NASA for Falcon.  I asked Dough how he intended to sell the importance & value of the program he suggested to those controlling policy and funding.  See what you think of this discussion & post your comments on our blog.  After Doug cleared the line, Charles Pooley called in & at one time I said he was the longest playing broken record in Space Show history! I told him he was full of doom and gloom and other people see things differently and I did not want is view of things to be right or prevail, suggesting others see things differently than he does. Again, your comments are welcome.  Near the end, I simply was rejecting the “dismal situation” facing our space program. While Haym agreed that things were not good today, he talked about how he inspires and works with his students so they can create a positive space environment during their careers and for our future.  Just before the show ended, Tim called at the last minute and I promised to send him a Timex given his rotten sense of timing show after show. With Tim, we talked propulsion, Zubrin’s thoughts on going to the Moon, & the two private Mars missions on the drawing board.  In his concluding remarks, Haym explained why he was not supportive of either Inspiration Mars or Mars One.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog. Haym can be emailed through me or his Rutgers website.

 

Dr. Bruce Damer, Tuesday, 7-9-13 July 10, 2013

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Dr. Bruce Damer, Tuesday, 7-9-13

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Guest:  Dr. Bruce Damer.  Topics: Human NEO mission study & design project, asteroids, planetary protection & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  Please remember that your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm).

We welcomed Dr. Bruce Damer back to the show to discuss his 3D real time simulations, the human NEO mission study & design project, planetary protection, astronaut safety and much more.  Here are the websites Bruce mentioned on air:  www.damer.com, www.levityzone.com, and www.digitalspace.com.  In addition, later in our discussion Bruce also talked about a Dave Brody YouTube video that was relevant to our discussion.  You can find this video at www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAm9escDxu0.   In the first segment of our 1 hour 31 minute discussion, Dr. Damer talked about the renewed interest in asteroid projects within NASA and by others, especially after the Russian event a few months ago.  Dr. Damer had lots to say about a recent meeting he attended at AMES, budgets, and the renewed interest in the subject.  Listeners started asking him questions early on, including questions about docking with an asteroid with little or no gravity, the use of aerogel to collect micrometeorite particles, plus the recently announced commercial asteroid missions being planned.  Robots versus humans came up many times, Curt asked about the use of the ISS, prioritizing budgets, lunar basis, etc.  Doug called in regarding the incremental approach Dr. Damer had mentioned or as referred to in our discussion, stepping stones.

In the second segment, we talked about the designs on www.digitalspace.com and the Brody YouTube video per the above URL.  Also discussed was planetary protection with the use of the gravity tractor. We talked about needed lead times to interfere with a potentially dangerous NEO that might be headed for Earth,  then more questions came in about a lunar base and what Bruce thought to be more important, the lunar base, Mars, or the NEO mission.  Doug called in to discuss and challenge some of the mission planning ideas Bruce put forth, especially around trial and error, R&D, incremental development and long time lines.  Near the end, we talked about human spaceflight safety & the ideas put forth by Rand Simberg & others that we needed to take more risks, not make safety the extreme priority.  Bruce had many relevant & important comments on this subject.  Final comments focused on 50-100 years in th future with asteroid & other capabilities but only if we keep moving forward today.

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Robert (Rob) Kelso, Friday, 6-21-13 June 22, 2013

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Robert (Rob) Kelso, Friday, 6-21-13

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Guest:  Robert (Rob) Kelso;  Topics:  The PISCES Program plus additional Hawaiian space projects & assets.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Rob Kelso, Executive Director of PISCS, to the program.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 28 minute program, Mr. Kelso not only introduced us to the Pacific International Space Center (PISCES) in Hawaii, but also to the long standing space related traditions & history with the state of Hawaii.  As our discussion was held on the summer solstice, this certainly contributed to making Rob’s Hawaii space historical summary most interesting & relevant.  Rob noted the role played by Hawaii as an analog site for the Apollo training and newer robotic missions.  In fact, much of our discussion focused in on features within Hawaii that are being used more and more for space analog sites, insitu learning, 3 D printing methodology, and technical development.  Rob talked about the PISCES engagement of both public and private sectors & the need to help develop 21st century skills within the Hawaiian aerospace industry.  Also discussed in this segment were the relationships with other NASA centers, both for human spaceflight as well as robotic and science missions.

In our second segment, we talked about the PISCES signing of six memoranda of understanding.  While Rob had something to say about each project, you can read a good summary of these important projects at www.hawaii247.com/2013/04/25/pisces-signs-six-memoranda-of-understanding.  Also in this segment, we talked about the HI-SEAS Project (http://hi-seas.org). HI-SEAS is the Hawaii Space Exploration Analog and Simulation planetary surface exploration analog site at 8,500 feet on the side of Mauna Loa, focusing on research for food  preparation strategies for long duration HSF.  Rob talked about HI-SEAS quite a bit so don’t overlook what he had to say about this program.  Later, Doug called in regarding the RESOLVE Program which PISCES participates in with goals of creating O2 & rocket fuel by melting moon rocks to help support humans living on the Moon.  Rob then talked about the Robotic Search & Rescue Program and telerobotics.  This led to a discussion about communication latency issues, even with the Moon.  When asked about State of Hawaii and PISCES objectives, he said near term included showing an ROI to the state with longer term goals of having a state technology research park contributing to all aspects of education, STEM, & space development in the state.  Christine emailed in a question about the biggest challenges faced by Hawaii and PISCES, especially since other states are also motivated to building up their space and STEM industries.  His response was most interesting.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog per the above URL.  You can email Rob Kelso through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.