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Charles Miller, Friday, 2-13-15 February 14, 2015

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Charles Miller, Friday, 2-13-15

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Guest: Charles Miller. Topics: March Storm, Citizen Space Agenda, CATS, space settlement, commercial space stations, commercial crew & cargo. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Charles Miller to the program to discuss the upcoming citizen lobby effort for space policy, March Storm (see www.marchstorm.com). During the first segment of our 90 minute program, Charles introduced us to March Storm, March 15-19, 2015, training, and the Citizen Space Agenda. For this segment, Charles focused on Cheap Access to Space (CATS) & Space Settlement. He talked about plans to achieve CATS which then opens the door to settlement. He told us about a prize program for a fully reusable space vehicle citing X-37 as a model. As for fully reusable, he said we had the technology and capability to do this today but there was no way to close a business case for it. We also talked about lobbying, who the March Storm teams talk with on the Hill, staffers or the elected member. He also talked about the training and how they focus their message depending on the interests and party affiliation of the member. He provided us with examples of this. He got several listener emails including one from Perry inquiring how they address congressional objections based on tight budgets, reducing spending and such. We talked about the price being open to international partners and the need for competition.

In the second segment, Matt from Austria asked about National Defense Authorization Act and the development of a US liquid fuel rocket engine plus who might bid on it. Charles provided a most interesting response to Matt. We then switched to commercial crew and cargo and the need for a smooth transition to commercial space stations. Their agenda includes a “no-gap” policy for such a transition. He also said we need a station backup plan in case Russia does pull out of the ISS around 2020 and suggested using a command module docked to the American side of the station to offer controls similar to what the Russians do today. We did talk about the ISS and commercial space. Charles said the ISS is currently an incubator for developing and exploiting markets. Questions came in about lobbying new members of congress and inexperienced staff. Charles reported that up 40% of the congressional staff are new each year or after each election so talking to “newbies” is not out of the ordinary. Near the end, Tony asked about the wide diversity of interests and preferred missions across the advocacy community. In his closing comments, Charles said CATS would make available truly low cost global broadband plus one could take the top 50 world leaders to space to experience Earth without borders, boundaries and fences to see us all as one.

Please post your comments/Questions on TSS blog above. You can reach Charles Miller through me @ drspace@thespaceshow.com.

Frank Stratford, Friday, 5-17-13 May 18, 2013

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Frank Stratford, Friday, 5-17-13

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Guest:  Frank Stratford.  Topics:  Commercial space and space travel business models and revenue generation.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed Frank Stratford back to the program to discuss various commercial space business models, including nonspace revenue generating goals and objectives.  Frank is the founder of MarsDrive so for more information, visit their website at www.marsdrive.com.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 42 minute program, Frank introduced us to the topic in his April 22, 2013 Space Review article, “The Business of Space Travel” (www.thespacereview.com/article/2281/1).  Frank talked about the need to generate nonspace revenue while building up the space company & space revenue R&D, activities, & markets.  He cited SpaceX, Bigelow, & Blue Origins as examples.  This led to a discussion about markets & financing, plus estimated costs for a human spaceflight mission to Mars. Frank compared the Mars One $6 billion estimate to his own estimate from his research to be $15 billion.  Our first caller asked if big name investors associated with these early commercial space ventures created an expectation of success and may in fact turn out to not have been such a good idea.  The detailed discussion included ROI, Stratolaunch and the revenue cycle gap from up front/early capital needs to revenue generation later on in the project’s cycle.  We talked about the nonprofit or charity model and Inspiration Mars came to mind.  I entered the discussion with comments about the need for repeat customers, a commercial space success to model, unrealistic assumptions, the lack of due diligence, and the difficulty in cost estimates, especially when the cost of getting to the destination (the Moon for example) is unknown at this time.  Surrey Space & Technology was also brought up as an example of a good business to model.

In the second segment, our called pointed out a Moon & Back interview with Robert Bigelow in which our caller said Bob said he went into the r/e business to fund his space activities.  Later, he email in additional comments suggesting that just because a space venture or idea is not funded does not mean it’s a bad idea or concept. He then advocated NASA support such as with COTS and Commercial Crew.  Public/private partnerships were advocated as a good way to move forward with space development and exploration.  Frank was then asked if a failed commercial project would hurt the industry.  He said it was possible.  Another question came in regarding paying attention to human factors and if solutions would be available at the same time as engineering technology, financing, and maybe markets.  Frank said only if work moved forward on human factor solutions at the same time and at a similar rate.  He also advocated his own organization working the problems.  Listen to his reasoning behind this.  As the program was nearing close, Frank was asked if Curiosity found proof of life in the past or now, even the most basic life, if it would make HSF to Mars more of a priority.  Don’t miss Frank’s response.  In summary, Frank talked about the need for continuous incremental development.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog above.  If you want to email Frank Stratford, you can do so through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.