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Golden Oldie: Elon Musk from 10-24-01 replayed Tuesday, 10-28-14 October 28, 2014

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Golden Oldie: Elon Musk from 10-24-01 replayed Tuesday, 10-28-14

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2346-BWB-2014-10-28.mp3

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Guest:  Elon Musk from Oct. 24, 2001; Topic: Golden Oldie Archive Play regarding the Mars Oasis plan and Elon’s ideas for a multi-planet species by settling on Mars.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.   For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

This is a Golden Oldie program from Oct. 24, 2001.  At this time, The Space Show was known as Business Without Boundaries and was aired on a Phoenix radio station.  The formatting of the program was that of the radio station as they divided the 60 minute discussion into 5 short segments. All the commercial breaks and music from back then are included in this discussion.  Elon was the 16th guest on The Space Show (Business Without Boundaries).  In the first segment, we talked about the why of Elon’s interest in space and the need to be on a second planet.  Mr. Musk talked about the different reasons for wanting to go to space but for him it was to insure survival of our species by being a multi-planet species.  Elon then discussed his Mars Oasis Project which was time lined for 2005 as a private mission.  He wanted to rally American public opinion for the need for a human presence on Mars.  Our guest took us deeper into Mars Oasis with his greenhouse plans and some of the crops he thought would be suitable for the project.

In the second segment, Elon again said they were looking for a 2005 launch with a landing on Mars in 2006.  A listener asked him about using off the shelf technology and Bruce from Stanford wanted to know about Russian-US cooperation since the plan was to use a converted Russian SS18 ICBM for the launch vehicle.  Our guest also identified some of the equipment that would be part of the Mars Oasis payload.  John in St. Louis asked Elon if this was a commercial project with an expected ROI.  The answer was that it was a humanitarian project and no ROI was expected.

In the third segment, Elon was asked to estimate the costs for the project.  He said that NASAs cheaper missions were around $200-250 million and full cost missions were higher. In this segment he suggested the costs might be 10-15% of the lower NASA costs.  He was also planning two missions since it was possible for one to fail.

In the fourth segment, Elon was asked additional questions about the costs which he approximated at $20-$30 million.  Another question dealt with regulatory issues. Here, Elon did talk about ITAR but said at present there were no laws or regulations regarding a private mission to Mars.  Remember now, our discussion took place in 2001. Near the end of this short segment, questions about using the NASA DSN came up as Mars Oasis would need to communicate with Earth.  Elon suggested a design for his own communication network which he said might be commercialized down the road for other upcoming commercial space users.

In the fifth and final short segment, Elon summarized our discussion and said that he wanted to both change the world & create a world.  He also said we were closer to being able to go to Mars than JFK was when he said we would go to the Moon.

Post your comments on The Space Show blog but remember, this discussion aired Oct. 24, 2001.  9/11 had just happened.  We were preparing for war, our nation was very different then than it is today.  If you listen to later interviews with Elon, you will hear him discuss why Mars Oasis was tabled and why he thought it necessary to build his own rocket and rocket company.  You can find these archived programs using the GuestSearch tool on our website.  Search for his name.  You want the programs where he was the guest, not just talked about by others. Hats off to Elon Musk for his flexibility and for his work in making sure his vision eventually comes to life and reality.

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Rex Ridenoure, Monday, 10-6-14 October 7, 2014

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Rex Ridenoure, Monday, 10-6-14

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2330-BWB-2014-10-06.mp3

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Guest:  Rex Ridenoure.  Topics:  Ecliptic Enterprises updates, commercial space, commercial space and the future.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Rex Ridenoure to the show for this 96 minute discussion containing Ecliptic Enterprises updates, commercial space programs and business models,  plus much more. In the first segment, our guest provided us with updates for Ecliptic from the time he left the company to do consulting for private missions and then his return to the position he left.  Government sequestration happened about the same time and hurt Ecliptic as you will hear, plus it caused Rex to come back to Ecliptic. You will also hear how business has come back for Ecliptic since sequestration ended.  Rex talked about new contracts, the focus of their business and more.  He spoke about RocketCam and updated us on some of its new market potential plus features and advancements.  We talked about the emergence of cubesat companies as potential Ecliptic customers given the advancements in this field.  Rex talked about a new emerging business line for the company in the form of being an integrating contractor rather than only a subcontractor to a prime.  Export control and ITAR were discussed when I asked if RocketCam was being sold to foreign launchers.  The short answer was no but listen to what Rex had to say about export control and the hope for new rules in the near future.  Rex introduced us to the concept of experiment control on the ISS.  This pertains to experiments on board the ISS being controlled by ground personnel rather than by the ISS crew.  Doug called to ask about the purpose of the Ecliptic projects plus goals for Rex with his work.  Don’t miss the killer reply Rex gave Doug.  Other topics in this segment dealt with rad tolerant hardware as opposed to radiation hardened hardware and streaming data back to Earth on the DSN or another system.

In the second segment, Rex spent most of the time talking about commercial space and his years in service to developing commercial space including early in his career. See the career time table for Rex that I have posted on the blog.  Rex identified a few of the early commercial space projects he was involved with, then he said we had finished the first wave of reconnaissance of our solar system.  Listen to his explanation for this statement.  Rex next talked about one of the next big commercial areas for development which he said would be bringing  space resources to the Earth economic system.  Listener Paul emailed a question asking about commercial space efforts in other countries.  Following that discussion, Rex told us about attending the 10th anniversary XPrize event at Mojave which was an invitation only event.  I asked Rex if people were disappointed that ten years had gone by without commercial spaceflights.  He did say that their was an air of disappointment in the room among those attending the event.  Near the end of our show, Rex was asked about HSF to Mars.  He also talked about the early program Elon Musk wanted to do, Mars Oasis.  SLS came up for discussion, then Rex provided us with a list of take away points for our discussion.  He ended by saying that commercial launch dated back to 1963 and the trend was for more commercial launches and space projects.  He said commercial space was based on a 50 year old proven model.

Please post your comments/questions for Rex Ridenoure on TSS blog per above.  You can reach Rex through me or the Ecliptic website, http://www.eclipticenterprises.com.

Stewart Money, Friday, 9-14-14 September 20, 2014

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Stewart Money, Friday, 9-14-14

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2319-BWB-2014-09-19.mp3

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Guest:  Stewart Money.  Topics:  Stewart discussed SpaceX per his new book, “Here Be Dragons: The Rise of SpaceX and the Journey to Mars.”  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Stewart Money to the show to discuss his new ApogeePrime published book, “Here Be Dragons: The Rise of SpaceX and the Journey to Mars”  You can get much more information by visiting http://www.innerspace.net along with http://www.apogeeprime.com/prime/bookpages/9781926837338.html, and http://www.amazon.com/Here-Dragons-Rise-Spacex-Journey/dp/1926837339/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1411235694&sr=8-1&keywords=here+be+dragons+the+rise+of+SpaceX+and+the+Journey+to+Mars.  Remember, if you buy this great book through Amazon, use the OGLF Amazon portal (instructions on the OGLF & Space Show websites plus all archived programs on the blog and The Space Show website) & Amazon will make a contribution to The Space Show.  During the first segment of our 90 minute program, Stewart explained why he wanted to write a book about SpaceX to tell the story from the beginning up to current SpaceX history.  We spent lots of time talking about the early days including the Mars Oasis Project, the forming of SpaceX in 2002 and the three questions that Elon asked prior to starting the company.  Stewart’s book and our discussion take you step by step through the emergence of SpaceX through each stage of its development.  Even if you are familiar with the SpaceX story or the basics, you will learn much from the book as well as listening to Stewart as he narrates the SpaceX story and responds to listener email questions along with my comments.  Some of the questions asked him were for the biggest challenges Elon and SpaceX faced plus the most important successes.  He was asked for the origin of Elon’s interest in Mars and if the Mars interest was a company wide passion and belief.  In response to a question about the biggest SpaceX failure, Stewart said it was the inability to enter the EELV national security launch program on his timing.

In the second segment, a listener wanted to compare the SLS, Falcon Heavy, and MCT with one another.  Questions were asked about the unveiling of the Dragon V.2 as Stewart attended the ceremony.  Others wanted to know about SpaceX launch sites at the Cape & in Texas.  Andrew asked about SpaceX PR & damage control when necessary, Dana asked if SpaceX was interested in space tourism & Larry asked about reusability.  Stewart said it was a core value for the company.  Stewart provided us with a good, brief summary of our discussion and what he considered to be a priority take away from our discussion.

Please post comments/questions on TSS blog. You can reach Stewart through me.

 

Dr. Catharine Conley, Monday, 10-8-12 October 9, 2012

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Dr. Catharine Conley, Monday, 10-8-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1868-BWB-2012-10-08.mp3

Guest: Dr. Catharine Conley. Topics: NASA & international planetary protection policy, methodology, & applications. You are invited to comment, ask questions, & discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, & any discussion must be relevant & applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed Dr. Catharine Conley, NASA’s Planetary Protection Officer to the show for a comprehensive discussion on the subject of planetary protection. Planetary Protection is concerned with preventing the transfer of life between planetary bodies. For more information, visit the NASA Planetary Protection website at http://planetaryprotection.nasa.gov. Dr. Conley started our discussion with the definition of planetary protection, followed by a brief history dating back to the Apollo missions & planetary quarantine. Dr. Conley talked extensively about microbes & their survival. One of the points she made in response to a question was just how friendly the very cold temperatures of space could be for microbes.  On the other hand, radiation & the UV light are the enemies of microbial survival. We talked about a Mars sample return mission, what safety precautions would be taken, & then our guest was asked about using the ISS or the Moon as a quarantine lab to protect Earth. You will hear why this is not a good idea & later when asked about using a Bigelow habitat as a planetary protection lab since it would not be a government lab, our guest applied the same reasoning. Dr. Conley talked about the Viking missions as the most stringent ever for planetary protection. In terms of the methodology, we talked about how a mission is prepared for planetary protection, the probability of contamination, & I asked about cost-benefit analysis & the value of added costs & more time for planetary protection if the probability of contamination was so low. As you will hear, building in planetary protection starting with the concept stage is not a significant contributor to costs as its usually less than 1% of mission costs. We also talked about protocols for a NEO mission, the New Horizons mission on the way to Pluto, & missions to other planets & flyby missions. Next, our guest addressed issues with Mars Science Lab & Curiosity. Near the end of the first segment, we talked about international protocols, Article 9 of the OST, & the international COSPAR Planetary Protection Policy. Dr. Conley talked about international space agency adherence to the policy, country by country. Viruses & extra-terrestrial life possibilities brought us to the close of this segment.

In our second segment, Dr. Conley talked about the need for public awareness & educational outreach regarding planetary protection. Listeners asked about human flights to Mars, even one way flights.  Don’t miss this discussion. Did you know that it is very likely that humans will be restricted as to where they can go on Mars based on planetary protection policy? Or, by the time we send humans to Mars, we will have learned enough about Mars so that the human part regarding planetary protection will not prove to be much of a threat or risk. We talked about terreforming, what to do with a crew member death on Mars & being able to bury the body, then we talked about planetary protection policy among the NASA centers. Near the end, our guest was asked about the Phobos-Grunt mission & the Russian adherence to planetary protection policies. We inquired about Mars meteorites here on Earth & future missions being worked on with the planetary protection office including two Mars missions & the concept of a Europa mission.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog. If you want to contact Dr. Conley, send your note to me & I will forward it to her.