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Dr. Patricia (Pat) Hynes, Monday, 9-14-15 September 15, 2015

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Dr. Patricia (Pat) Hynes, Monday, 9-14-15

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Guest: Dr. Patricia (Pat) Hynes. Topic: The 11th annual International Symposium for Personal & commercial Spaceflight (ISPCS). Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.


We welcomed Dr. Pat Hynes back to the show to talk about this year’s ISPCS to be held in Las Cruces, NM from Oct. 6-8, 2015. For detailed information about the Symposium, hotel & conference registration, please visit www.ispcs.com. Initially our program was to be on the 60 minute format but as our discussion progressed, it extended beyond our usual 90 minute plus program to 1 hour 37 minutes without a break. As a result of this, the program summary has been written for a one segment program. We started our discussion with Dr. Hynes talking about commercial space and how the industry and the Symposium had changed over the past eleven years. Dr. Hynes described the basic logistics and style of the Symposium as it is a complete package from morning to evening, including food, snacks, total hospitality and more. The agenda which covers two full days features 42 speakers, all speaking as keynotes, typically for 18 minutes with a 10 minute Q&A. The theme for this year’s symposium is “Make A Difference” and Pat talked about this in the context of people wanting more than just a job, instead wanting to make a difference in what they do. Later as the program was ending, we talked diversity with women and minorities and again making a difference was a top priority. Unlike a traditional conference promotion Space Show program, we did not simply follow the agenda and the scheduled speakers and panels. While Dr. Hynes did highlight speakers and panels, she did so in a big picture way to stay focused on the theme and to let us know just what went on behind the scenes in selecting speakers and panel subjects for this year’s Symposium. Pat honed in on specific topics such as the Virgin Galactic accident, the NTSB report, and human factors issues, plus the need for balanced risk taking in developing the commercial spaceflight industry. Pat also brought up the proposed Aerojet Rocketdyne bid to buy ULA for $2 billion. This led to a discussion about the ULA and Blue Origin relationship, the Boeing and NASA culture, and how this year’s Symposium would be addressing these matters. Much more was said about this subject, including the use of Twitter and social media. Cargo resupply was brought up with the various players/participants as was the suborbital and orbital industry. We took a call from space attorney Michael Listner who talked about the need for balanced risk taking. Michael mentioned his Op-Ed in the current Space News issue titled “Space Has Its Place in U.S. Presidential Race.” Pat mentioned large new players in the industry including Google, BlackSky Global and others. As our discussion progressed, Pat talked about the programming focusing on creating effective work teams with a panel chaired by Michael Simpson of The Secure World Foundation, one of our Space Show sponsors. This discussion took us to our final topic for the program, women with careers in aerospace, how they get stuck, their need to balance life, and make a difference. Dr. Hynes mentioned the National Center for Women and Information Technology which was also part of the panel discussion focusing on Creating Effective Work Teams. As we were winding down, our guest mentioned the panel on Disruptive Technologies for the New Space Future, and the ISS as a national lab. You can see the full agenda and read about each of the exciting and relevant keynote speakers and panel discussions at www.ispcs.com/agenda.php. We concluded our discussion by talking about the conference logistics, hotel availability, and the Spaceport America tour at the end of the symposium on the following day. For more information about attending this year’s ISPCS, visit www.ispcs.com. Once you are on the site, you can easily register for the symposium as well as make your hotel reservations.


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Walter Cunningham, Tuesday, 6-19-12 June 20, 2012

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Walter Cunningham, Tuesday, 6-19-12


Guest:  Walter Cunningham.  Topics:  An inside view of the American space program from Apollo to today.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, & discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, & any discussion must be relevant & applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed Walt Cunningham to discuss our space program from Apollo through today’s developing commercial space industry.  For more information, visit his website, www.waltercuningham.com.  You can buy “The All-American Boys: An Insider’s Look At The U.S. Space Program” from Amazon & they will make a contribution to The Space Show/OGLF if you use this URL: www.amazon.com/All-American-Boys-Walter-Cunningham/dp/1876963247/ref=onegiantlea20.  I started the discussion by asking Walt about his perspective on Apollo 7 today, 44 years later.  Walt had some interesting things to say about perspective, especially over the past 10-20 years as compared to when he actually carried out the mission.  A few times during our discussion, questions came up about the so called “mutiny” with the crew & NASA ground control so listen to how Walt described what was mostly a non-event despite media & blog reports to the contrary.  He did talk about Wally Schirra, his head cold & the Actifed commercials, but there was far more to the mission & to the significance of Apollo 7.  Dr. Jurist asked about the ride on a Saturn 1B, professors & experiences while both were at UCLA.  We discussed risk regarding his ride on the Saturn 1B. Walt had much to say about risk during the Apollo era as compared to now.  We extrapolated from this discussion to Columbia’s foam issues. We talked about commercial space.  Walt suggested that today’s commercial space efforts were not purely commercial given government funding & missions. He also said that retiring the shuttle when we did was a big mistake.  He then took us through a cost analysis process to illustrate that space is & always will be costly.  At the end of the first segment, one way trips to Mars & reality TV show funding were mentioned.

In the second segment, Terry called with questions about Von Braun. Walt had high praise & much to say about Von Braun & his experiences with him.  Commercial space came up again & I asked him about asteroid mining.  He did not think it would be a good investment & talked about the need to pay attention to the laws of physics.  We talked about He3 on the Moon, fusion energy possibilities & more.  I read an email from a London listener asking about the Apollo rocket & mission sounds on Apollo 7.  We talked some more about the problems on board Apollo 7, this time regarding Wally & the TV broadcast delay & the wearing of the newly designed helmets during reentry.  Walt talked about climate change & global warming, urging people to do their own research & examine the data rather than believing what people had to say regardless of their position.  John in Atlanta called in about global warming & said that there was no practical mitigation strategy. Our guest shared what he perceived to be the true motivation of global warming extremists.  John also talked about having built a next gen space shuttle from the old space shuttle to avoid retiring it or having to build an entirely new & very costly program.  Walt supported that idea but history proved otherwise.  Toward the end we discussed the pros & cons of international cooperation & competition, Ares 1 as a safe rocket for HSF, & the cost of the ISS being more due to international cooperation.  Our final topic was risk versus reckless behavior & the difference between the two.

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