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Open Lines, Tuesday, 10-13-15 October 14, 2015

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Open Lines, Tuesday, 10-13-15

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Guest: Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston. Topics: Space Show website updates, the movie “The Martian, gravity prescription, HSF medical issues & more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

Welcome to our Open Lines show and my return to broadcasting given my post surgery recovery from my Oct. 1 spinal sugary. It was great to be back on the air. During the first segment of our two hour show, I updated everyone as to my post surgery recovery progress, I dedicated the show to the memory of our near friend Declan O’Donnell who passed away October 1 of this year, then I updated everyone on the progress being made on our new website development project and my ability to start fulfilling Indiegogo perk orders. As I stated, there have clearly been delays due to the first two weeks post surgery but we are getting back on track and I expect reasonable progress moving forward. As I explained I continue to have mobility limitations and sitting issues but things are improving all the time so I expect the delays will soon be a thing of the past. Several times during the program I mentioned booking future guests now that I am back on the air and suggested those of you that selected the co-host perk or the host your own show or be your own guest perk take advantage of the available dates for the balance of 2015 to bring your co-host guest to the program, or your host your own show to the schedule. Let me know and I will support you in invitations, etc. to get these programs booked with you even before the new website is launched. I also read an email from Matt from Switzerland who wanted to follow up from the earlier show with Ally regarding some sort of online virtual space advocacy training. If this interests you, post comments and your ideas on The Space Show blog. Matt will see them and maybe interested parties can get something going. Our first caller was Dr. Rowe who expressed misgivings about all the talk about being able to have humans walk on Mars by 2030. Dr. Row cited some of his well known and highly regarded medical research in support of his statements but as usual, committed space advocates challenged him. One was by text message to me which I did not read on air but was highly critical of Dr. Rowe wondering who he was and why in the world he would be talking about such things. Via a reply text I did tell this listener who Bill was and briefly listed his credentials for his research. I know his work is controversial and many listeners to this show do not support Bill’s conclusions but that does not invalidate his work. Doug asked Bill about running the numbers for what propellant it would take to spin up a craft with a tether long enough to get one gee but relatively low RPMs as the subject moved to needing to be in 1g and maybe even marginally less gravity would not work for humans. Lots of discussions followed about the gravity prescription issue, the need to know it for BLEO spaceflight, then Doug expressed his ideas of why it was not so important to know the gravity prescription at this time. Don’t miss Doug’s full comments on this subject and see if you agree with his perspective or not. Bill had some other medical issues to talk about, especially cardiology issues with Irwin and Armstrong. I have tremendous respect for Dr. Rowe’s work though I am not qualified to do any type of due diligence on it as I am not a medical doctor. Still, knowing it is controversial, especially with segments of The Space Show audience, I urge space cadets to be more open minded rather than married to agendas. In the end, Dr. Rowe’s work may prove more valuable and important than many think or would like to think. After a decent discussion with Dr. Rowe and listeners on related topics to Bill’s phone call, we started talking about the movie “The Martian.” This discussion took us through the rest of the show with breaks here and there for different or related topics. Everyone who called to talk about the movie like it and we did have some fun discussions about the movie and maybe some different scenarios.

In the second segment, John from Freemont, CA called to talk about the movie. he also talked about the gravity prescription and the plans by the SSI to do some sort of gravity prescription experiment. I talked about that as I have done shows on it and spoken to Gary Hudson about their efforts to fund this experiment,. He also mentioned the SpaceGAMBIT Organization which sounds very interesting. Check it out at www.spacegambit.org. June from Tucson emailed us wondering why there was criticism of the NASA Roadmap To Mars. I started answering her somewhat reluctantly but Doug called and I passed the response to Doug who handled the reply to June with a few side comments from me. In the process of talking about the roadmap, we talked about going to Phobos, cislunar development, SLS launches & much more. Doug then spoke about the movie which was the main reason for his call. During the conversation I incorrectly referenced a Dr. Lurio text to me over the weekend but fortunately Charles was listening to the show, sent me the correct text which I read on air. Charles then called the show and we had a good discussion about the movie, sci fi in general, and certain issues surrounding the movie. He also went into detail on the three items that made him see Hermes in the context of 2001. Advanced propulsion came up and several us wondered why nuclear propulsion was not a NASA solution to the rescue of the Martian. Here, we talked about the movie being about a NASA government program, not focusing on commercial or Newspace. Dr. Lurio offered a reason for this and I reminded listeners of this topic on the interview we did with Andy Weir several months ago. John Hunt called and we talked about audience and age differences with the movie. The last caller was Tim from Huntsville who saw it with friends, including non-space cadet friends. The non-space cadet friends liked the movie as much as the space oriented people liked it.

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Dr. Gil Levin, Friday, 9-25-15 September 26, 2015

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Dr. Gil Levin, Friday, 9-25-15

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Guest: Dr. Gil Levin. Topics: Live on Mars per the Viking Labeled Release experiments plus modern research analysis. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Gil Levin back to the show to discuss Mars new updates, the possibility of life on Mars, and news based on his Viking Labeled Release life detection experiments from the two Viking missions to Mars in 1976. During the first segment of our 93 minute show, Dr. Levin told us about three important announcements that have either happened or will happen. The first was is by the ISRO in India saying they would release their methane experiment data from their Mars orbiter on Oct. 1. We discussed the implications of Martian methane later in the program. The second announcement which will take place on Monday, Sept. 27 with an afternoon NASA press conference is expected to announce the confirmation of flowing water on Mars. All NASA will say is they are going to finally disclose answers about a significant Mars mystery that has finally been answered. The speculation all points to water. The third news announcement was that the Viking 1 landing site from 1976 has been selected by the appropriate NASA team as the first landing site for the Mars human mission. Dr. Levin spent most of the rest of the first segment talking about the Viking Labeled Release experiments, why the science continues to be rejected today and some theories behind the rejection. Some of this discussion followed us into the second segment. I asked Gil to describe what a modern life detection experiment would consist of and he went into that in some detail. Gil was asked if he believed in conspiracy theories. He did not want to go there but we did talk about them from time to time during the show. BJohn for example suggested NASA did not want to announce life on Mars for fear of planetary protection rules and policies stopping their humans to Mars program. We also talked about that being a possible stumbling bloc for wealthy private sector space entrepreneurs to launch their own life detection experiment because planetary protection rules would impact their plans just as they would NASA. The 25 year NASA Roadmap to Mars program came up and like many others, Dr. Levin did not think it was credible. We spent mor time discussing wealthy private sector people possibly funding their own Mars science and eventual human missions. Gil addressed methane on Mars in some detail and what finding it on Mars may mean for life detection. He was also asked if he could propose experiments for missions from other national space agencies. He said he could but then told how he was doing that for Russia in 1996 & then the mission was cancelled because the US blocked him from exporting and talking about Carbon 14. As the first segment ended, Gil identified scientists that had published credible research in support of life on Mars. Don’t miss what he had to say about the scientists, their work, and what happened when it was published.

In the second segment, Gil suggested that possibly his work was dismissed because he was an engineer, not a scientist. He talked about this possibility in some detail. I asked him to support his contention that life existed on Mars now. For a significant part of this segment, he listed experiment after experiment, solid evidence, some solid theory, all in support of and to back up his claims. It was a convincing impressive list so don’t miss this part of the discussion. Ben from Chicago challenged Gill with a few hard hitting questions about his work being dismissed. Essentially he asked Gil if he might just be dismissed because he is seen as an old, angry guy, fighting for his decades old experiment to be valid so his claims and efforts are pretty much dismissed for those reasons. Gil agreed with part of it and said he was looking and hoping for younger, more open minded researchers to take a fresh look at the data. We talked about open minded researchers, their organizations, and institutions for a good portion of this segment. As the show was nearing its end, we talked about NASA life detection experiments that flirted with detecting past or present live as compared to experiments designed to confirm once and for all life or no life. As the show was ending, BJohn asked why everyone was in such a hurry to do the life detection experiments given Mars was not going anywhere. I thought Gil gave a terrific answer to this question which also served as his conclusion to our discussion. Don’t miss his response to BJohn. Let us know what you think by posting your thoughts on the blog.

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