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Dr. John Logsdon, Monday, 3-16-15 March 17, 2015

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Dr. John Logsdon, Monday, 3-16-15

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Guest: Dr. John Logsdon. Topics: Professor Logsdon’s new book, “After Apollo? Richard Nixon and the American Space Program,” plus our guest responded to many space policy questions then and now. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back to the show Dr. John Logsdon to discuss his new book, “After Apollo? Richard Nixon and the American Space Program.” During the first segment of our 90 minute discussion, Dr. Logsdon provided us with the multi-year history behind his researching and writing this book. We talked about the Space Shuttle but also the gap within NASA and parts of the space community including the advocate community between having great expectations but insufficient resources to support the great expectations. We talked about the likelihood of significant NASA budget increases in coming years and while possible, our guest said it was unlikely. President Nixon wanted space to be considered routine and NASA to compete for funding with other parts of the discretionary budget. What President Nixon set in motion is continuing through this day. Dr. Logsdon said policy normally comes from the White House but recently policy for SLS came from the Senate because they did not like what President Obama was doing. We talked about the long range impact of the Nixon space policy even through today and at one point Dr. Logsdon suggested that maybe Nixon got it right regarding American public sentiment about space. Our guest received questions about planetary science and its accomplishments and other listeners inquired about public/private partnerships. Still, our guest said that only governments really have the resources to carry out the type of space investment needed for exploration. Listeners asked about other forces of the time including the Cold War and space policy champions in leadership positions such as Tom Paine who was the NASA Administrator. Dr. Logsdon was asked how things might have been different had Hubert Humphry been elected president. Mars was also discussed, then Dr. Logsdon talked about the space shuttle history. In response to several questions, he shared his thoughts and experiences from his time spent serving on the CAIB. Another topic in this segment dealt with space advocacy. Our guest said we need advocacy to keep the dream alive until leadership makes it happen. He said talk about settlement and pioneering were mainly just words. Pioneering needed to answer two questions which he addressed before the break.

In segment two, we talked about the ISS and Shuttle having consumed the HSF budget and now the ISS does that with about $3 billion per year. Using the shuttle for national defense and security during the Nixon years was also a discussion topic as Nixon liked national security issues. Dr. Logsdon had much to say about the shuttle’s use by the military and for national security. You might be surprised by what you hear. As for human spaceflight, Dr. Logsdon referred her to the NRC Pathways Study which we have discussed many times on The Space Show. More questions came in regarding space advocacy which he said pushes the boundaries of realism and needs to be balanced between sober reality and pure fantasy. Tony emailed us to ask about SLS/Orion, private space over NASA, and Elon Musk and his Mars settlement plans. A question came in about being motivated by the Chinese space program. For closing remarks, Dr. Logsdon addressed the Nixon space policy and program legacy which still influences us today.

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Michael Listner, Monday, 5-5-14 May 6, 2014

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Michael Listner, Monday, 5-5-14

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Guest:  Michael Listner.  Topics:  Space law issues regarding the SpaceX litigation against the Air Force/U.S. Government & Russia & NASA re moving forward on ISS & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Michael Listner back to the program to explain the legal issues involved in the SpaceX-Air Force lawsuit and to discuss the Russian-NASA issues regarding the ISS as a result of U.S. sanctions on Russia and Russian leaders due to the crisis in the Ukraine & Crimea.  In the first segment of our 90 minute program, Michael addressed the SpaceX law suit.  He explained that it was a bid protest law suit, he explained the background and the legal issues involved.  He also said SpaceX was not asking for money but for a Declaratory Judgment that they are eligible to bid on bulk buy launch services which up to now have been the exclusive domain of ULA.  He also said it was the court that picked up on the national security issue regarding ULA, the RD180 engine and the continued purchase of the engines from Dmitry Rogozin & Russia in spite of the Executive Order that may prevent such new purchase activity.  On this issue, the court issued a temporary injunction in favor of SpaceX.  He also explained the process wherein ULA has joined the action as an interested party.  Our entire first segment was devoted to Michael responding to listener questions, explaining the legal concepts, and making sure we understood what this law suit was about and the legal issues the lawsuit focuses on.

In the second segment, Michael started off with a few clarifications dealing with the lawsuit and mentioned that as he understood it, ULA had offered the Air Force a guarantee to replace the launch and satellite if one of their launches failed.  Given ULA resources, that would not be that unusual but it would be a hard act for SpaceX to follow given the fact that SpaceX is young and still growing/developing.  We then switched to the topic of Russia and NASA.  Here, Michael talked about legal agreements and treaties, including the ISS Agreement among partners known as the IGA (he said it amounts to a treaty).  He did not think it would be that easy for the current problems with Russia as a result of our sanctions given the Ukrainian and Crimean issues to escalate to taking down the ISS agreement and other space activities underway with Russia and NASA.  Michael was asked about the likelihood of NASA getting more funding and working with SpaceX to fastback the Dragon development for taking humans to the ISS.  Other questions took us back to the lawsuit discussed in the first segment.  As we neared the end of the program, Michael also talked about the PR campaigns by SpaceX and ULA and how this was a high stakes lawsuit.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can contact Michael through me.  For Twitter use Michael J. Listner@ponder68.

Charles Miller, Monday, 9-30-13 October 1, 2013

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Charles Miller, Monday, 9-30-13

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Guest:  Charles Miller.  Topics:  Commercial space, small satellites, commercial crew, human spaceflight & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Charles Miller back to The Space Show for this 1 hour 31 minute program.  During the first segment, Charles talked about the future of commercial space, extending the life of the ISS, managing risk and uncertainty to maximize returns and benefits for commercial space, plus he used the company he co-founded, NanoRacks, as a commercial model utilizing the national lab ISS.  We talked about commercial crew, the success of the Space Act Agreement for contracting and pockets of congressional resistance to the commercial and Space Act programs.  In discussing commercial opportunities on the ISS, we also talked about CASIS and the role it is playing in bridging the gap and facilitating commercial companies using the ISS.  Charles then talked about his company, NexGen Space LLC and he referenced the DARPA XS-1 Reusable Spaceplane.  A listener asked our guest about a possible influx of commercial opportunities from outside the U.S.  In response to this question, Charles talked about competing cultures and why the U.S. is so strong with its culture of innovation.  Commercial crew, human spaceflight, and the need to spend 6 months training in Russia were discussed with the latter being an impediment.  Suborbital demand was a topic as were the commercial efforts by Boeing, Sierra Nevada, ATK and other mainstream aerospace companies.

In our second segment, we talked about Kickstarter and the use of crowd funding in the emerging commercial space industry.  Innovation and low cost space access were key topics and themes for this segment.  Listener Jack asked about space entrepreneurial management teams & what to look for in a quality team.  I asked Charles to tell us where he thought the industry would be in ten years.  Charles talked about small satellite constellations, far more affordability across the board, and a large growth space tourism industry.  He also mentioned that the turning point will come when we have cheaper access to space than today. Toward the end of our discussion, Charles was asked for his suggestion for the best path to pursue for those seeking commercial space careers. In response, he talked about getting real hardware and flight experience & mentioned high schools that provide this experience.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog per above.  Charles Miller can be reached through me using drspace@thespaceshow.com.

SmallSat Conference Interviews, Tuesday-Thursday, 8-17-12 August 17, 2012

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SmallSat Conference Interviews, Tuesday-Thursday, 8-17-12

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Guests:  Robert (Bob) Meurer of ATK; Dr. Peter Wegner of ORS; Fred Slane of Space Infrastructure, Inc.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcome you to this series of three recorded interviews from the SmallSat Conference 2012.  After each interview is completed, there is about a ten second pause followed by the next interview.  The program concludes when the final interview with Fred Slane is completed.  I was assisted with all three interviews by Dr. John Jurist who was also present for the SmallSat Conference.  Our first interview was with Robert (Bob) Meurer of ATK.  Mr. Meurer is the VP of Business Development in the Commercial and International Programs, Space Mission Systems with ATK Aerospace in Beltsville, MD.  During our half hour with Bob, we discussed the ATK series of small satellite buses, ITAR & international business issues, customer responsibility as opposed to manufacturer responsibility, LEO as compared to GEO satellites and much more.  While The Space Show has featured many ATK programs, this programs focused on the ATK satellite business rather than the launch and SRB side of the business.  I am sure you will find it to be a most interesting & informative discussion as did Dr. Jurist and I.

Our second interview was with the Director of the ORS Office, Dr. Peter Wegner.  Dr. Wegner was first on The Space Show in 2009 so we asked him for updates with ORS. We discussed their funding status, what constitutes an ORS satellite or ORS mission, national security and ORS, plus I asked about other space nations and their advances in operationally responsive space capabilities.  I was a bit surprised to learn that the U.S. definitely has competition and others may actually be making more progress than we are. You don’t want to miss this discussion.  We talked about student projects, internships, and even garage innovators submitting projects to Dr. Wegner’s office or by chance stumbling on classified technology.

Our final interview was with Fred Slane as I asked Fred for an annual update on the progress toward adopting space standards.  We discussed the need for space standards, the role of the U.N. in promoting space standards, and why adopting standards is important, even for the small entrepreneurial start-up space company.  Fred was asked the difference between a standard and a specification, who the various international players are in the process, and just who gets a seat at the table.  I think you will agree with both Dr. Jurist and myself that having operationally sound space standards are important for everyone.  Post your comments on the blog and let us know what you think about space standards.

If you want to email any of the guests for this special SmallSat program, please send your note to me and I will forward it to the guest of your choice.  Also, do post general comments and questions on The Space Show blog for all to see and comment on if they so desire.

The John Batchelor Show, “Hotel Mars,” Wednesday, 5-9-12 May 10, 2012

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The John Batchelor Show, “Hotel Mars,” Wednesday, 5-9-12

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Guests:  John Batchelor, Dr. David Livingston. Topics: Responsive Space, Reinventing Space Conference 2012.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. During our 11.5 minute segment, John and I discussed many responsive space issues, dual use technology for DOD and the commercial industry concerning the responsive space goals of low cost launch, redundancy, backup, and the rapid replacement of space assets as needed on a case by case basis.  We talked about improving technology enabling us to evolve closer to a true responsive space capability.  Commercial space applications were discussed and I mentioned one conference talk about the possibility of commercializing weather satellites with the government buying the data rather than building, financing, deploying, and operating weather satellites.  For more information on the subject, visit the conference website, www.responsivespace.com.

If you want to email John Batchelor, you can do so through me at drspace@thespaceshow.com.  Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.

Open Lines, Tuesday, 3-13-12 March 14, 2012

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Open Lines, Tuesday, 3-13-12

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1734-BWB-2012-03-13.mp3

 

Guest:  Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston.  Topics:  An Open Lines program covers a wide variety of topics of interest to the listeners.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, & discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, & any discussion must be relevant & applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. Welcome to this 2 hour 20 minute Open Lines discussion largely driven by listeners calling the program.  In our first hour segment, I listed the usual possible discussion topics which I won’t repeat here. As to be expected, listeners had their own ideas as to what they wanted to talk about though we did address some of the issues I previewed including NASA & the treatment of their chimps in the early space program given that PETA wants to establish a chimp empathy museum at KSC,  NASA budget cuts & the recent congressional hearings, the Defense Intelligence Agency Chinese space program wake up call, & more. The congressional hearings of last week made it to our discusses as listeners focused on what was said by Senator Nelson, Senator Hutchinson, NASA Administrator Bolden, & Dr. Tyson in his short presentation. Listeners also talked about the comments by Texas Congresswoman Eddie Johnson regarding commercial space/crew on the House side. Also in the first segment, Tim called in to inquire about a possible IPO for Space X.

In our second segment, Dr. Jurist called in to express his disappointment at the elimination of funding for the Operationally Responsive Space office/program.  This took us to a discussion about national security space & I asked Dr. Jurist about the Defense Intelligence Agency wake up call regarding the Chinese space program as expressed by their director Ronald L. Burgess.  Somehow we then got off on the topic of the planned retirement of the B-52 in 2040, about 88 years after it became operational.  While Dr. Jurist was talking with us, Tim sent in several email questions for him on microgravity experiments to determine what level of gravity was needed for humans for space settlement & long duration flights.  John Hunt followed with comments about VASIMR, nuclear propulsion, & even fusion powered spacecraft down the road in our future.  Tom Hanson of the Living Universe Foundation called in to let people know they are seeking Foundation board members (www.luf.org/contact).  I then introduced another topic from a current article in Popular Science, a 20,000 mph train to space (www.popsci.com/technology/article/2012-03/all-aboard-20000-mile-hour-low-earth-orbit-express).  This article refers to a newer version of StarTram & this brought in several more callers including Trent from Australia. Other listeners chimed in on the train to space idea as well though most did not take the article very seriously.  I introduced the news that Turkey had agreed to the Moon Treaty & then Terry called in at the end to talk about the X-37C & that it might become a crewed vehicle.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog URL above. If you want to contact any of our callers, send your note to me & I will forward it for you.  If you want more info on any of the news stories I mentioned, let me know & I will send it to you.