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Tom Olson, Replay, 2011 Space Year In Review December 22, 2014

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Tom Olson, Replay, 2011 Space Year In Review

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Guest: Tom Olson. Topics: The year 2011 in review regarding all space issues. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

 

Welcome to our Golden Oldie Decade of Review, this year with the space year 2011. Tom Olson was our reviewer for this 2011 review, aired live on Dec. 27, 2011.  We had much to cover in this 105 minute program. Tom started out reminding us that 2011 was the 50th anniversary of human spaceflight. He told us about the banner year for Yuri’s Night parties around the globe celebrating this important milestone and specifically about the even he attended in New Your City. Next, he pointed out the recent National Press Club talk given by Elon Musk on going to Mars and building the rockets to take us there, plus his recent New Scientist interview which you can read in full on the Mars Society website. Tom commented that the sky was actually falling in 2011 with two large junk satellites coming back to Earth. We also talked about the return of Phobos Grunt to earth probably in early to mid-January 2012. One of the big events we discussed for 2011 was the retirement of the shuttle. This led us to discussing the recent Chinese space rendezvous and the fact that China is now the number two launching country behind Russia having overtaken the U.S. this year. Planetary missions were part of our year in review with Vesta and Dawn, the Kepler Space Telescope, MSL with Curiosity. New Horizons continued its journey to Pluto and Explorer 1 continued beyond our solar system. Tom talked about SLS and the ORION MPC Vehicle, plus the James Webb Space Telescope and its cost issues in the context of its impact on the NASA budget. Soyuz rocket problems along with all the Russian rocket failures this year were fair game for our discussion. I asked Tom what he thought of the idea of SLS as a place holder for skill sets and technology until our space program improves. Don’t miss his answer. He brought up Virgin Galactic’s drop tests this year, especially the last one where trouble showed up. Making news for 2011 were NASA and space industry workforce layoffs and the successful Falcon 9 and Dragon launch. At the end of the first segment, Bigelow Aerospace was in our spotlight.

 

In segment two, Tom led off with XCOR news, Terry called wondering about CCDEV3 and Tom suggested program winners! Don’t miss his prediction. He also was asked to predict the cancellation year for SLS. Don’t miss this prediction as well. We talked about the upcoming New Space Business Plan Competition for 2012, the prizes which are the largest ever, and the timing. If this interests you, make sure to stay tuned for more information. Later in the segment we began a summary of our discussion and 2011. Tom was asked about the space elevator and the Lunar Space Elevator. We wrapped up our discussion talking about growth in the space conferences even in the tough economic year of 2011.

 

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Emily Lakdawalla, Friday, 5-30-14 May 31, 2014

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Emily Lakdawalla, Friday, 5-30-14

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Guest:  Emily Lakdawalla.  Topics:  The Planetary Society, space geology, robotic & science missions, science mission budget.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Emily Lakdawalla to the program to discuss space science missions, The Planetary Society, space & outer planet geology.  During the first segment of our 90 minute program, Emily went over her background and how she came to have an interest in space and in particular space science and geology.  Some of our topics included the tectonics of Venus, asteroid mining, her interest in the outer planets of the solar system, and science missions either ongoing or to be conducted in the future.  I mentioned a possible Europa mission which led to a Europa discussion and Emily talking about the ESA JUICE mission (JUpiter ICy moons Explorer).  We talked about being able to cut the travel time to the outer planets for science missions and our guest mentioned the possible use of SLS to do that.  Don’t miss this discussion.  Also in this segment, we talked about upcoming comet and asteroid mission, then we switched gears to discuss robotic challenges.  Here, Emily pointed out the time lag for communications to Mars and beyond makes telerobotic control difficult at best.  We talked about having a Mars orbiter to control surface robots.  Were we doing this, the robots could be simpler as they would not need as much autonomous capabilities as they need now based on Earth communications.  Emily told us about Planetary Society projects and programs, we talked about man in the street interviews regarding space & our guest shared her experiences with us when Shuttle Endeavour came to Los Angeles.  Near the end of this long segment, Kepler came up, questions came up about Earth geology being similar to the geology of the planets, the lack of fossil fuels on other planets, then Doug called with a question about coalition building & the NASA science budget.  As the segment ended, we asked Emily about robotic exploration as compared to having a human geologist on the surface of the planet. BJohn from Sweden sent us emails about Curiosity on Mars and Venus.

In our second segment, we talked about relevant time spans and how missions get prioritized.  Emily went over the Venus challenges.  She was asked if the Planetary Society would try another Phobos-Grunt mission and we talked about their project, the Mars Microphone to bring back to Earth the sounds from Mars.  Toward the end of the program, Emily was asked about the importance of lowering launch costs for science missions and the promotion of space advocacy.

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Golden Oldie Tom Olson Space Year 2011 in Review, Sunday, 12-29-13 December 29, 2013

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Golden Oldie Tom Olson Space Year 2011 in Review, Sunday, 12-29-13

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Guest: Tom Olson. Topics: The year 2011 in review regarding all space issues. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

Welcome to our Golden Oldie Decade of Review, this year with the space year 2011. Tom Olson was our reviewer for this 2011 review, aired live on Dec. 27, 2011.  We had much to cover in this 105 minute program. Tom started out reminding us that 2011 was the 50th anniversary of human spaceflight. He told us about the banner year for Yuri’s Night parties around the globe celebrating this important milestone and specifically about the even he attended in New Your City. Next, he pointed out the recent National Press Club talk given by Elon Musk on going to Mars and building the rockets to take us there, plus his recent New Scientist interview which you can read in full on the Mars Society website. Tom commented that the sky was actually falling in 2011 with two large junk satellites coming back to Earth. We also talked about the return of Phobos Grunt to earth probably in early to mid-January 2012. One of the big events we discussed for 2011 was the retirement of the shuttle. This led us to discussing the recent Chinese space rendezvous and the fact that China is now the number two launching country behind Russia having overtaken the U.S. this year. Planetary missions were part of our year in review with Vesta and Dawn, the Kepler Space Telescope, MSL with Curiosity. New Horizons continued its journey to Pluto and Explorer 1 continued beyond our solar system. Tom talked about SLS and the ORION MPC Vehicle, plus the James Webb Space Telescope and its cost issues in the context of its impact on the NASA budget. Soyuz rocket problems along with all the Russian rocket failures this year were fair game for our discussion. I asked Tom what he thought of the idea of SLS as a place holder for skill sets and technology until our space program improves. Don’t miss his answer. He brought up Virgin Galactic’s drop tests this year, especially the last one where trouble showed up. Making news for 2011 were NASA and space industry workforce layoffs and the successful Falcon 9 and Dragon launch. At the end of the first segment, Bigelow Aerospace was in our spotlight. In segment two, Tom led off with XCOR news, Terry called wondering about CCDEV3 and Tom suggested program winners! Don’t miss his prediction. He also was asked to predict the cancellation year for SLS. Don’t miss this prediction as well. We talked about the upcoming New Space Business Plan Competition for 2012, the prizes which are the largest ever, and the timing. If this interests you, make sure to stay tuned for more information. Later in the segment we began a summary of our discussion and 2011. Tom was asked about the space elevator and the Lunar Space Elevator. We wrapped up our discussion talking about growth in the space conferences even in the tough economic year of 2011.

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Dr. Robert Farquhar, Sunday, 3-25-12 March 26, 2012

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Dr. Robert Farquhar, Sunday, 3-25-12

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Guest:  Dr. Robert Farquhar.  Topics:  Our discussion centered around his memoirs in his new book and his space involvement over fifty years.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed Dr. Robert Farquhar back to the program to discuss his new book, “Fifty Years On The Space Frontier: Halo Orbits, Comets, Asteroids, and More.”  If you purchase the book using the following Amazon link, Amazon will make a contribution to The Space Show/OGLF:  www.amazon.com/Fifty-Years-Space-Frontier-Asteroids/dp/1432759272/ref=onegiantlea20.  Dr. Farquhar started out by talking about his early interest and work in aviation and space, gradually taking us up to and including the missions he has described in his excellent book.  Among some of the points he made included that in the early years, there was much more independent freedom for those working on missions while today things are done by consensus, committees, etc. When asked if the missions were improved and the costs contained by the newer methods, he said he did not think so. Its an interesting discussion you will want to hear.  He highlighted several of the early missions and we talked quite a bit about the halo orbit and Lagrange points.  He also told us stories about plaques he snuck on missions, trying to arrange one mission arrival to coincide with his birthday and more.  Great stories and for sure you will have a smile if not an outright laugh when listening to Dr. Farquhar.  He also said all of the stories he was telling us were in his book.  Later in the longer first segment we talked about human spaceflight and why he supports SLS/Orion.  This discussion took us into a more extensive conversation about L1 and L2 missions in the Earth-Moon system.

In the second segment, listeners asked about L4 with the 2010 TK7 asteroid, New Horizons, Pluto, Mercury, and more.  Bob told us additional stories, including some about the photos used in the book.  The JWST came up as did additional funding for NASA.  Bob did not think more funding was needed but thought the existing money could be used better.  The Kuiper Belt was discussed as were asteroid issues in general along with specific missions.  Neat the end of the show, I asked Bob if his space work & expertise has given him perspectives on the existence of ET.  This is a brief discussion you do not want to miss!

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Dr. Bruce Cordell, Tuesday, 1-10-12 January 11, 2012

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Dr. Bruce Cordell, Tuesday, 1-10-12

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Guest:  Dr. Bruce Cordell.  Topics:  Using Maslow Windows to determine future space exploration and development trends.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed back Dr. Bruce Cordell to discuss new information pointing to a boom period of space exploration and development based on the trend analysis using Maslow Windows.  During the first part of our discussion with Dr. Cordell, he went over Maslow Windows, what they are and why they can be used to suggest a coming boom period in space exploration/development.  You can learn more about Maslow Windows and his work from his website, http://21stcenturywaves.com.  He talked about the need for optimism and also told us what to look for in terms of precursors to the boom period.  As you will hear, some of the precursors are very disruptive, even similar to what is going on in our economy today.  Bruce then went into his latest post on his website, “State of the Wave: 10 Space Trends for 2012.”  We managed to get through most of the ten trends during both segments of our discussion, starting with #10 “Phobos-Grunt Symbolized A Key Approach To Mars Exploration.”  As you will hear, Bruce spent some time talking about the trends, his analysis of them, and some of the specifics underlying why he selected the item as a trend with his Maslow Windows analysis.  Rather than go through each of the trends in this summary, I suggest you open up his website document regarding these 10 trends as you are listening to the discussion.  Of the trends discussed in the first segment, we focused onChina and also  #8, Critical States.

In the second segment, a listener asked Bruce how he knew the boom would be in space rather than the more typical terrestrial industrial economy.  Don’t miss what Dr. Cordell had to say about this.  Bruce then returned to discussing the issue of critical states and the role they play in the economy as well as in political policy.  Wild card items came up many times during the discussion, especially in the second segment.   Euro zone issues topped the list for the wild card discussions.  Another key trend talked about in this segment was #7, “Nasa’s Kepler Discoveries Trigger A Copernican-level Expansion of Worldviews.”  In fact, a good portion of the rest of the program as well as callers focused in on this trend, the discovery of Earth-like planets, and even the search for ET.  Dr. Cordell put forth many theories including those that we are alone in the universe and why that is so.  This is a discussion you will certainly want to hear.  Near the end of the program, we advanced to the #1 trend, “Several Wildcards Could Dramatically InfluenceU.S. and Global Trends in 2012 and Beyond.”  Here, Dr. Cordell talked about political realignments, the importance of our 2012 elections, and that people tend to support those that lead us to prosperity.  Since that can be subjective among the voters, Dr. Cordell did elaborate on it before our program ended.

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Dr. Louis Friedman, Monday, 1-9-12 January 10, 2012

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Dr. Louis Friedman, Monday, 1-9-12

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Guest:  Dr. Lou Friedman.  Topics:  The Planetary Society LightSail Program, solar sails and more. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed Dr. Louis Friedman back to the show to discuss solar sails and his recent articles in The Space Review titled “Mind Expansion,” Nov. 21, 2011 and “The Dangers of a Rocket To Nowhere,” May 23, 2011.  We started our one hour discussion with Dr. Friedman talking about solar sails and recent Planetary Society solar sail missions.  Dr. Friedman gave us the basics on solar sails and explained the interest and commitment to their demo solar sail efforts and the LightSail Program.  Listeners asked technical questions about solar sails, the materials used, and the radiation degradation of the materials.  We talked about using only sunlight for the solar sail energy, but in the future being able to use onboard lasers and even the light from distant stars.  We talked about the Phobos-Grunt mission as The Planetary Society had an experiment onboard, the Living Interplanetary Flight Experiment (LIFE).  Dr. Friedman described this microbial experiment and the titanium capsule it was in with the possibility of its being able to survive reentry and even being recovered though the odds are clearly against that happening. We talked liability issues regarding the debris, including LIFE, doing damage upon returning to Earth.  Both Dr. Friedman and attorney Michael Listener who called in said that primary liability was with Russia based on the OST.   The SLS came up as Dr. Friedman wrote about it in his above mentioned Space Review article.   In talking about SLS, we spoke about mediocrity in space policy, specifically human spaceflight.  I asked Dr. Friedman about the importance of connecting with the general public regarding HSF and how we could do a better job of it than what we are currently doing.  I then asked Dr. Friedman to comment on his excellent “Mind Expansion” Space Review article which you can read at www.thespacereview.com/article/1973/1.  We talked about the need to think big, issues facing space entrepreneurs, and a needed bridge between traditional commercial interests for entrepreneurs and thinking big and doing the new and innovative, especially if the business case is tentative or illusive.  Listeners asked Dr. Friedman about today’s college students and if they were being trained to think big.  As we closed in on the end of our hour discussion, I asked Lou if he thought space would be an issue in this year’s presidential campaign.  He did not think it would be an issue.  In our second segment which was to be Open Lines, I made an error in editing the show and lost the 50 minute segment.  However, during this brief OL segment, I went over some of the key upcoming Space Show programs.  Michael Listener called in to talk about the Chinese space policy.  Not only did we addressChina and space, but I also brought into the mix some ofChina’s economic and banking issues which may impact their space progress. Terry Picket called in regarding my comment about asking for help in coming up with a new template for the email newsletter and my time zone comment.  He offered us a time zone tool from the net and we talked about it and the various time zones across theUnited States includingAlaska andHawaii.  I regret having accidentally cut this segment and I apologize to Michael, Terry and all of you for not being able to bring this segment to you.  If you have questions/comments regarding the discussion with Dr. Friedman, please post them on The Space Show blog per the above URL.

Nicholas (Nick) Johnson, Monday, 12-5-11 December 6, 2011

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Nicholas (Nick) Johnson, Monday, 12-5-11

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Nicholas (Nick) Johnson. Topics:  Space debris issues.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign.  We welcomed Nick Johnson back to the show for a comprehensive discussion on space debris issues.  We started out with an assessment of the space debris problem as of today.  Here, Mr. Johnson talked with us about the impact of sun on space debris through both the solar max and the solar minimum.  I referenced the NRC report and asked if concurred that we were at the “tipping” point in the debris issue.  We talked about cleaning up debris and our guest said that various options were being looked at but we were not there yet.  Nick mentioned a few possible technologies but that funding was needed, demo projects needed to be carried out, and that international cooperation and funding consortium ideas were being explored.  Space attorney Robert called in regarding some of the legal issue needing to be addressed based on the Outer Space Treaty, the Liability Treaty and other legal documents.  Perhaps the biggest legal issue is that of needing permission from the owner of the hardware to retrieve or do something with it so that it does not add to the debris problem.  We did talk about mitigation strategies for newer satellites and I inquired why the 25 year boundary for keeping the satellite from becoming debris.  Jerry called in and wanted to know about the possibility of magnetic cleansing and suggested VASMIR.  Another listener asked about satellite upset events that happen when a satellite gets hit with really small flakes of debris causing the satellite to reboot.  Before the break, we talked about the return to Earth of the Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite (UARS) and Nick talked about tracking the return of objects.  Don’t miss this discussion.  I also asked him about Burnt Frost, the U.S. satellite shoot down in 2008.  We started the second segment with a listener question about possible titanium tanks on Phobos-Grunt and reentry concerns.  Nick said that Russia said the main tanks were aluminum and that Russia should be addressing reentry concerns.  We talked in general about the problem of hydrazine and it remaining frozen during reentry.  Another listener asked about plutonium on board spacecraft and the Russian accident in Canada with Cosmos 954.  Another listener asked about cubesat and possible debris issues.  Space tugs for debris removal were discussed as were Earth-based lasers.  International cooperation was discussed and of course ITAR came up.  As the program was ending, we talked about NASA’s reentry plans for both the ISS and the Hubble Space Telescope.  Nick also clarified the law for us regarding keeping pieces of satellites or debris that hit the Earth as they remain the property of the launching country.  Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog URL above.

Dave Reneke, Tuesday, 11-29-11 November 30, 2011

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Dave Reneke, Tuesday, 11-29-11

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Guest: Dave Reneke.  Topics:  Space in Australia, a different view of U.S. space policy, astronomy, SETI.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at

https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign.  We welcomed Dave Reneke to the program to discuss all space issues from the Australian perspective.  Find out more about Dave, his space and astronomy work, plus sign up for his free newsletter at www.davidreneke.com.  Starting out, I asked our guest about the Perth radio telescope used by ESA that seems to be the only location making some contact with the Russian Phobos-Grunt mission.  After talking about Perth and its geography, our guest mentioned the competition for the Square Kilometer Array Telescope (SKA) competition which has been narrowed down to the Australian location or a location in S. Africa.  Dave mentioned the SKA telescope and its capabilities throughout our discussion.  As we learned, the Perth area is actually quite quiet regarding radio noise and a good location for the radio telescope array.  Dave received email questions about the space awareness level of the average Australian as well as for his students.  Having been to the U.S. several times, our guest said that there was not much difference between Australians and Americans when it comes to space awareness and knowledge.  We also talked about commercial space, space tourism, and our current American space policy.  Josh asked about the difference in the night sky from the southern hemisphere view as compared to what most of us see here in the northern hemisphere.  Dave gave us some good comparison notes which I think you will find interesting, especially about the Southern Cross, some of the planets, the Big Dipper, Orion (the Swordsman in Australia), and even the Milky Way.  We talked about national television coverage in Australia of the recent MSL launch, and then some more about issues facing the U.S. space policy of today.  In our second segment, Dave got a listener question about Australian concern and coverage for space debris falling to Earth and he reminded us about Skylab coming down in Australia and told us some interesting stories about it.  I asked him about the Air Force UFO article on his website.  He had much to say about it and his previous work as a UFO investigator.  We then switched to talking about deep space, Pioneer 10, and SETI searches.  We mentioned the potential water planet discovery, Gliese 586g, and much more.  Dave was asked when the effects of our sun cease and a deep space mission starts having effects from a different solar system or from being in deep space.  Dave talked about a region of turbulence hitting Pioneer 10 and suggested deep space really starts when our solar system effects end. He referenced the heliosheath. We also talked about the Voyager Interstellar Mission.  Dave told us a few stories about Apollo 11 that he learned from his day long meeting with Buzz.  He concluded with a long term hundred year vision suggesting that eventually there will be travel beyond the speed of light with routine space travel.  Post your comments/questions on the blog URL above. Dave can be contacted through the Contacts page on his website.

 

Matthew Kleiman, Monday, 11-28-11 November 29, 2011

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Matthew Kleiman, Monday, 11-28-11

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Guest:  Matthew Kleiman.  Topics:  Protecting Apollo artifacts on the Moon, space legal & property rights issues.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign. We welcomed Matthew (Matt) Kleiman to the show to discuss his recent TSR article, “Protecting Apollo artifacts on the Moon, written on November 7, 2011. You can read the article at www.thespacereview.com/article/1961/1.  We began our discussion by describing the Apollo artifact situation, explaining ownership of them per the Outer Space Treaty in that there is no space salvage law.  He said NASA recently issued guidelines for protecting the Apollo artifacts given the likelihood that private companies and possibly other nations might get to the sites, disturb or alter them, or even contaminate a few of the ongoing experiments that are still functioning.  As you will hear, the guidelines are not enforceable, they are voluntary, and  you can find them at www.collectspace.com/news/NASA-USG_lunar_historic_sites.pdf.  We spent a major part of this segment talking about the guidelines and related issues.  Also discussed were liability issues and the problem with determining negligence regarding space activities.  A listener asked about the timing of the NASA guidelines announcement given that at least for now, we are unable to return to the Moon.  Matt then separated out robotic missions to the Moon as compared to humans returning to the Moon.  Our discussion also took us to the issue of property rights on the Moon and elsewhere in space.  We started the next segment by asking Matt about the Moon Treaty and its status.  We talked some more about salvage law for space and addressed the issue of why the US prefers to use international law for protecting the sites rather than doing it unilaterally as that raises potential sovereignty issues posed the by the space treaties.  Phobos-Grunt came up with regards to space debris issues.  During our space debris discussion, we talked about liability, the fact that an individual cannot bring an action other than through his/her country (the State Department for U.S. citizens) and more.  Matt talked about and described the Reasonable Person Doctrine.  A listener asked about the Google Lunar X-Prize and Matt briefly talked about the Draper programs with two teams.  He also told us about the long standing Draper Labs participation in our space program and that Draper Labs was the first non-government Apollo team member.  Another listener asked about the common heritage of mankind language in the Moon Treaty and to a lesser degree in the Outer Space Treaty.  Toward the end of our discussion, we talked about the challenges for making new treaties and the concepts/programs being used to accomplish nearly the same as a treaty but using a process other than a treaty.  If you have questions/comments, please post them on The Space Show blog URL above.  Matt can be emailed at matthew.kleiman@gmail.com.

Open Lines, Friday, 11-25-11 November 26, 2011

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Open Lines, Friday, 11-25-11

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1660-BWB-2011-11-25.mp3

Guests:  Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston. Topics:  Space Show December schedule changes, Phobos-Grunt, MSL, OMB & Mars missions, Space X, NASA policy, human spaceflight & more.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign.  Welcome to our Open Lines discussion.  We started the discussion with a few announcements. First, I talked about the Droid smartphone podcast timing issue that a few listeners have called to my attention.  For those experiencing this timing issue, I hope the information shared with you from other listeners was helpful. Please let me know either way. Also, listener Theron emailed me as I was preparing the archives and said “Google Listen after the show stops you can go back to the pod cast and it will start up again where it last stopped. They can also go to live 365 and listen there with no problem or listen to the archives and do the same thing.”  I next talked about my December 2011 schedule which is going to be weird to say the least given my need to be in S. California for a good part of the month for family and medical reasons.  Please listen to the discussion on the probable changes for the month and check the website newsletter as I will update everyone on live and replay programs & the use of the toll free phone line when I have updated information.  The first listener question after the announcements asked for my opinion on being able to save Phobos-Grunt (P-G) and the upcoming MSL launch scheduled for Saturday morning.  Regarding the Russian Mars venture, I was not optimistic about its success but like everyone else, I remain hopeful. I then mentioned some of the various blog comments I have seen on P-G and why most of the comments were absurd, showing a total lack of understanding of basic physics and engineering & the P-G mission architecture.  Our friend Charles called in to talk about the science missions of NASA & to offer his perspective on the human spaceflight part of NASA. He brought us current with the N-Prize and his Microlaunchers program.  He got a question asking for his perspective on the Google Lunar X-Prize. Charles & I disagreed as Charles does not think anyone can win it or be successful.  Charles addressed the blog comments re P-G which I mentioned earlier as Charles does understand the science & engineering involved in a space mission.  When we returned from our break, Arnie sent in an email about the OMB possibly killing future Mars mission. I read excerpts from a news release on the issue.  John called in, said we were in a space survival mode. He wanted to know more about the blog article by Trent, “The Case Against Space X.”  Making it clear that I disagreed with Trent, I read excerpts of his article on air as The Space Show airs all sides of issues regardless of my position on the issue.  I do hope Trent turns out to be wrong.  I suppose we will find out in time as Space X and our program continues it evolution.  John asked Charles a question about space debris from his Microlaunchers idea. Charles replied by email saying “main ML missions are to the space between orbits of Mars, Earth. Literally trillions as much space as LEO altitudes. Space exploration begins beyond escape.”  Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog URL above. If you have Droid suggestions, do put them on the blog.  December scheduling or fundraising questions, please email me.