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Dr. Doug Plata, Sunday, 9-13-15 September 13, 2015

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Dr. Doug Plata, Sunday, 9-13-15

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Guest: Dr. Doug Plata. Topics: Doug’s Space Advocate Projects present and to do. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Doug Plata back to the show to discuss his space advocate projects that he has already done. In addition, he created a wish list of future advocate projects that he wants to do on his own or in collaboration with others. His 27 page Power Point Presentation detailing all of these projects has been posted to The Space Show blog so please take a look at it and follow along with us during the discussion. Dr. Plata’s discussion follows the PPT page by page. You can see it at https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. In the first segment of our 2 hour 7 minute discussion, Doug explained why he does these projects citing having fun as a major motivating factor.   He does go through the PPT topics and slides in order so rather than going through each one here in the summary, follow along with the PPT presentation on the blog. Some of the project had a more detailed discussion than others such as the theme park ride, the Gravitron which came up in the second segment. Listeners asked him several email questions on a variety of topics including how he could open up his projects to collaboration with others that were not physically in the same location or area as Doug. Doug was also asked if one needed an engineering, physics or other specific background to do what he was doing and Doug said no. I asked Doug if he felt constrained by physics, engineering, human factors medical science, etc. with his projects. This resulted in an interesting and most practical discussion and repose. Doug also coined a great phrase in response to this question, “Physics does not work in Power Point!” Later in the first segment, he talked in detail about large landers and the Centaur upper stage. His PPT shows pictures of his projects and where applicable, he created images to help us along in our understanding. We continued talking about the projects he has already done for the balance of the segment.

In the second segment, we finished the discussion of his already done projects but we spent some time on the Gravitron. Here, Doug talked about additional experiments he would like to do revolving around the Graviton but he was not sure that the ride operators would be all that cooperative with him in allowing him and others to do these experiments. It is an interesting discussion, don’t miss it. Doug soon turned to his wish list projects which start on slide 11. As before, our discussion tracked the slide number so it is easy to follow along with us. Among the listener questions that he fielded in this segment, one asked him how he knew for sure that there was sufficient water ice on the Moon at the poles or anywhere for that matter. Don’t miss his response. John from Ft. Worth called this segment to follow up on his earlier dried food comments. John and Doug talked about dried food, the old C-rations used by the military or the more modern MREs, psychological food, the need to have fresh food, vegetables, greens, and such. Doug explained his theory on what fresh items might be most suitable for growing on say a Mars mission. Later in the segment, both listeners and I suggested Doug organize this and see if he could sell it as a mini-series for influencing kids based on the old Mr. Wizard TV show from decades ago. In fact, thorough out the show, Doug received many suggestions for increased marketing and awareness for his projects like this with little cost, hardly any lab equipment, and in the home environment. When we got to slide 24, Doug had much to say about experiments using a Finger monkey. He was not sure if one would have to do some sort of IRB to use the animal, especially if it was just a space advocate experiment. Near the end of the segment, Doug spoke in detail about humans vs. robots and robots that could repair other robots. Doug offered specific ideas regarding the humans vs. robot debate. He offered us good concluding points but again, he stated that having fun doing these projects was a big part of why he does it & why anyone should do it. One final question came in just before the show ended. This listener wanted to know if he was doing an end run around traditional space advocacy organizations because everything he talked about during our program was individual to him or other advocates. Not once did he make mention of any of the space advocacy organizations. Don’t miss his response to this question.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog above. You can reach Doug through me or his website per his PPT, www.lunarcots.com.

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Marc Millis, Sunday, 12-21-14 December 22, 2014

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Marc Millis, Sunday, 12-21-14

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Guest:  Marc Millis.  Topics:  Advanced propulsion, interstellar flight & advanced physics leading to interstellar flight.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Marc Millis to discuss the needed advanced physics for interstellar spaceflight plus his take on the new hit movie, “Interstellar.”  During our 90 minute program without a break, Marc debriefed us on his take on the science behind and involved with the new movie, “Interstellar.”  He said there were things about the science and the movie that he liked and that they did a good job with and other things that got a less than positive grade.  For example, he said the way the movie depicted the worm hole was nicely done & he explained why.  One area he did not like was the shuttle like craft being blasted to space on a Saturn V like vehicle but then going back and forth to the other planets.  He said this raised serious fuel issues & questions.  He also said the time dilation effects were confusing and inconsistent.  We talked about black holes, then Marc mentioned the Incessant Obsolescence Postulate which suggests that should a probe or occupied spaceship be launched to the stars, eventually a more modern one will pass it in the future enabling it to reach the destination a lot sooner than the initial ship.  Marc returned to discussing worm holes and the negative energy needed for them to be useful tools for interstellar spaceflight.  A listener from Boston asked about nuclear propulsion and if that was the advanced propulsion needed for interstellar flight.  Marc talked about both fission and fusion propulsion & their respective applicability & usefulness for interstellar flight.  SLS John called for an advanced physics discussion which included the inertial frame of reference and gravity discussion, Mach’s principle, the Equivalence principle, the Higgs particle and more.  This is a great discussion, don’t miss it.  Another listener asked Marc what the minimum advanced physics and propulsion would be to get started with an interstellar flight, then evolving to more advanced tools over time.  Marc outlined a plan he talked about earlier for doing small steps at a time as opposed to a giant leap needing far more advanced technology than what is available now or will be in the near future.  Another listener asked a similar question focusing on the minimum amount of knowledge needed to get started with interstellar spaceflight.  Pooley called in to talk about the Equivalence Principle.  Marc talked about the Tau Zero Foundation and its needs, and then Beth asked why we don’t focus on Mars or the clouds on Venus, both of which are more doable than interstellar flight.  Marc said we need to focus on both at the same time so don’t miss his excellent answer.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog above.  Marc can be reached through me.  To learn more, visit http://www.tauzero.aero.

Dr. John Brandenburg, Tuesday, 5-20-14 May 21, 2014

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Dr. John Brandenburg, Tuesday, 5-20-14

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Guest:  Dr. John Brandenburg.  Topics:  Metaphysics, physics, ancient history, the Bible, life’s meaning.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back plasma physicist Dr. John Brandenburg to talk about his new book, “Cosmic Jesus: The Metaphysics of How the God of Israel Became the God of the Cosmos.”  Remember, if you buy the book through the OGLF Amazon portal, Amazon contributes part of the purchase price to The Space Show/OGLF.  In the first segment of our 2 hour 1 minute show (this was a 90 minute segment), Dr. Brandenburg introduced us to the topic of metaphysics which he defined as what can be deduced from physics or the attempt to answer basic questions like what happened before the Big Bang and what is actually out there or here or anywhere.  Dr. Brandenburg provided us with the foundation and background for having written this book starting with his fundamentalist upbringing, his Ph.D and his work at Lawrence Livermore Lab.  This is one of the few Space Show programs that is hard to describe in summary format but during the first long segment, John related things we know about in physics to metaphysics and biblical history.  John from Ft. Worth called and here we departed from the metaphysical and biblical to a discussion about related theories and associations in physics, including the work of noted Russian physicist, Dr. Andrei Sakharov. John also cited biblical references in his physics discussion, plus we talked about Mars rocks, extraterrestrial life, early life on Mars, and the realization that we here on Earth are not the center of the biological universe.  In discussing this, Dr. Brandenburg said many times throughout the program that we were headed for a Second Copernican Revolution.  Our long first segment ended with the three of us talking about the gravitational constant, models of gravity, & gravity modification.

In the short second segment, we talked about Alexander the Great and the combining of the physical/scientific universe with the spiritual universe.  Dr. Brandenburg then spoke to the separation which he said came later on with the scientific revolution with Kepler, Galileo, Copernicus, Newton and others.  John also told us about one of his theories suggesting that around 1520, the Spanish brought back to Spain information about the Aztecs and Aztec culture and items.  This was a big deal to the Europeans, especially those in Northern Europe so note what he proposes.  As we were nearing the two hour point and the end of the show, I asked John about future book plans and for his take away or Pearls of Wisdom from tonight’s discussion.  He referred back to many of his earlier extraterrestrial life in the universe comments and said that even if we as Earthlings are demoted from being the biological center the universe, we are still very important.  A metaphysical perspective for sure.

Please post your comments/Questions on TSS blog.  You can reach Dr. Brandenburg through me.

Dr. John Cramer, Friday, 9-20-13 September 21, 2013

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Dr. John Cramer, Friday, 9-20-13

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Guest:  Dr. John Cramer.  Topics:  Dr. Cramer’s chapter in “Starship Century,” interstellar travel, physics.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Dr. John Cramer to the program to discuss his chapter in the book “Starship Century.”  Dr. Cramer titled his chapter Exotic Technologies for Interstellar Travel.  Remember, if you purchase this book using The Space Show/OGLF Amazon portal, Amazon will contribute to The Space Show.  Instructions for doing this are in all archived program summaries on our website and our blog.  Dr. Cramer’s website is http://faculty.washington.edu/jcramer.  During the first segment of our 90 minute discussion, Dr. Cramer talked about his chapter, interstellar spaceflight, exotic technologies, and the Quantum Grounded Theory.  He mentioned James Woodward and his work with Mach’s Principle.  I also asked him about the level of interest expressed by his students in interstellar travel and we talked about timelines for realizing interstellar travel.  Our guest said we needed breakthroughs and the progress in 100 years would depend on realizing key breakthroughs.  Dr. Cramer suggested that our challenges were still in the fields of theory as we needed much better understandings of lots of things associated with interstellar travel.  The issue of space settlement came up in terms of Mars and deep space.  We also talked about worm holes but we spent more time on that subject in the second segment.  I asked if finding the Higgs-Boson was helpful. Dr. Cramer had much to say on this as well as on the LHC and colliders in general.  Dr. Cramer was asked about his science fiction works and his writing for Analog.  We also talked about the impact of our having cancelled our collider to be built in Texas and the impact of that decision on American science for decades following that political decision.

In the second segment, Dr. Cramer went into more detail about worm holes, including an explanation of the “back reaction” issue.  Later, we talked about timelines, budgets and our political funding process.  Near the end of the program, NASA was discussed as was our reliance on large rockets.  Dr. Cramer said we would need to get away from rockets and propulsion thrust if we were to do anything with interstellar travel or deep space.  At the end, he was asked about ET based on the comments Dr. Davies made on his interview earlier this week.

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Dr. Dennis Bushnell, Tuesday, 7-23-13 July 24, 2013

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Dr. Dennis Bushnell, Tuesday, 7-23-13

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Guest:  Dr. Dennis Bushnell.   Topics:  We discussed Dr. Bushnell’s paper, TRL for space development & how best to move forward with civil space.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed back to the program Dr. Dennis Bushnell, the NASA Langley Research Center Chief Scientist.  Dr. Bushnell discussed his paper, “Advanced-to-Revolutionary Space Technology Options-The Responsibly Imaginable.” which can be downloaded at http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20130011698_2013011376.pdf.  In the first segment of our 1 hour 26 minute show, Dr. Bushnell summarized the findings in his paper and talked about how we are still building on technologies from the 50’s and 60’s that were based on “living better with chemistry” and ICBMs.  We began talking about advanced propulsion including nuclear, but our guest made it clear throughout our discussion that what was needed was a reduction in the cost of space access by a magnitude of 10, not by two which is what is happening with new commercial rockets coming on line.  In fact, later in the show when discussing commercial space, Dr. Bushnell was clear that to close a commercial space business plan the reduction in launch costs by a factor of ten was absolutely essential!  I asked our guest to tell us where the bottlenecks were and he said it was in the culture & big cultural changes were required to move forward.  He also talked about the need to experiment and try lots of options and ideas, to triage them, down select, fly them, and choose the best based on the engineering process he described.  We talked about the low technology readiness level (TRL) of many of today’s space ideas and technologies, that we have become focused on instant or near instant gratification but that the process he was talking about would extend over a 25 year period.  Given this, his paper is a frank and factual discussion of many of our space industry segments, a no nonsense, no Kool Aid TRL analysis of much of what we talk about and say we can now do in space or will be doing in the near term.  Safety was discussed, including microgravity, radiation, plus a mention of unknowns regarding what we already know about gut bacteria exposed to radiation given our limited amount of research on this topic to date. A listener asked him about physics as a main reason for space exploration and contrasted that to settlement as the main reason for HSF. Another listener asked him about his mentioning USAF comments that indicated space was a mature and declining industry.  We began talking about commercial space, but we talked about it through the second segment as well.  In this segment, Dennis talked about how we have created economic growth in the past but now we have not only the challenge of economic growth but sustainable jobs and sustaining our standard of living.  Terraforming Mars was discussed as part of our discussion about Inspiration Mars and Mars One HSF missions to Mars.  As this segment ended, a listener asked him about suborbital space and citizen science projects.

In the second segment, John Hunt called in to talk about the high cost of many advanced space technologies, plus he wanted updates on LENR (this used to be called cold fusion).  Dr. Bushnell had much to say about LENR and it potential, we talked about Rossi, and the NASA work being done to better understand LENR effects. With an understanding of it, funding would not be as big a problem as it is today.  He also said LENR had the potential to be transmutational.  Our guest suggested that for more information, we visit the Larsen LENR slideshow:  www.slideshare.net/lewisglarsen/slideshows.  Again, he pointed to cultural issues as major stumbling blocks to this research.  In returning to the focus of his paper, he said there was no shortage of ideas but the culture was preventing them from being tried, tested, and exploited.  Rocket reusability was brought up, our guest mentioned the SpaceX Grasshopper work, and he was asked about SLS and fuel depots.  I asked about BLEO issues and radiation.  In response to another question, he said that were he the space guru, he would focus on “energy” and structural materials. You will want to hear this discussion. Later, Tim called from Huntsville about radiation and HSF to Mars, as well as the economics of the Big Dumb Booster.  I asked Dennis about the target audience for his paper and he said it was meant for NASA and the world since space fairing is a world endeavor. He again talked about potential revolutionary technologies which are needed and which would benefit all of us.  He repeated that we must do the difficult and take the risk and invest.  We also need to look forward with multiyear planning.  Near the end of the program, Dennis was asked about space elevators which he was not enthusiastic about.  Again, he repeated that we needed to make investments to raise our TRL levels.  At the end, I asked why space does not rise to importance in presidential campaigns & elections.  He said space was very good as an Earth utility but beyond that, there was no clear basis for most of it and that was the problem. Don’t miss his comments on this topic.  Our final topic was his assessment of commercial space given his years spent working on it with NASA including budgets into the hundreds of millions to find a way to close a commercial space business case for commercializing the ISS and other things.  This is a very important short discussion, don’t miss it.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog.  You can email Dr. Bushnell through me or you can find his address using the NASA email locator.

Les Johnson, Sunday, 7-8-12 July 9, 2012

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Les Johnson, Sunday, 7-8-12

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Guest:  Les Johnson.  Topics:  “Going Interstellar: Build Starships Now!,” and interstellar propulsion & advanced propulsion concepts.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We started our discussion by talking about interstellar travel, his new book, “Going Interstellar,” and advanced concepts, both for NASA and outside the NASA mindset.  Please remember that if you purchase this book from Amazon using this link, Amazon will make a contribution to The Space Show/OGLF:  www.amazon.com/Going-Interstellar-Johnson/dp/1451637780/ref=onegiantlea20. Les told us that both he and his co-editor, Jack McDevitt, had very little trouble getting the authors to contribute to the book which consists of a series of short stories from well known science fiction authors plus scientists.  There is a focus on the plausible and grounded physics so that the sci-fi is rooted in actual physics.  Les took several phone calls wanting to know about advanced concepts and propulsion at NASA and in general outside of NASA. We spoke about many concepts including solar sail technology, nuclear electric propulsion, the fission fragment rocket, faster than light (FTL) travel, antimatter, & the types of possible starships that might be used, plus the time intervals to travel from point A to point B.  We talked about the challenges from the laws of physics, political leadership, funding, & timelines. Les said that barring the discovery of new physics which he is not optimistic about at this time, he does not think FTL travel will be possible. When I asked about the discovery of Higgs-boson as an example of discovering new things, he talked about the discovery of that which is predictive as compared to something entirely new and unknown.  Other topics in this segment included artistic license in sci-fi writing, the role of physics & the imagination, & even questioning the possible role of ET in contributing to advanced propulsion concepts.

In our second segment, Marshall was our first caller & we talked about the French nuclear program, fusion, & the large ITER reactor program.  Les went over many of the fusion energy challenges & we talked about some fuel issues.  Les then told us about some of the future books he is working on & then he had more to say about solar sail technology which is his preference at this time for robotic interstellar missions.  We took a call about the huge Atlanta, GA sci-fi conference, DragonCon ( http://dragoncon.org) as Les will be a featured speaker there this year. As the program was ending, we talked about HSF NASA infrastructure, the Von Braun model for spaceflight, and more about the specific stories in his book.

If you have questions/comments for our guest, please post them on The Space Show blog.  Check out his websites at www.lesjohnsonauthor.com and www.amazon.com/Les-Johnson/e/B002OUOYZQ/ref=onegiantlea20.

Walter Cunningham, Tuesday, 6-19-12 June 20, 2012

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Walter Cunningham, Tuesday, 6-19-12

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Guest:  Walter Cunningham.  Topics:  An inside view of the American space program from Apollo to today.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, & discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, & any discussion must be relevant & applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  We welcomed Walt Cunningham to discuss our space program from Apollo through today’s developing commercial space industry.  For more information, visit his website, www.waltercuningham.com.  You can buy “The All-American Boys: An Insider’s Look At The U.S. Space Program” from Amazon & they will make a contribution to The Space Show/OGLF if you use this URL: www.amazon.com/All-American-Boys-Walter-Cunningham/dp/1876963247/ref=onegiantlea20.  I started the discussion by asking Walt about his perspective on Apollo 7 today, 44 years later.  Walt had some interesting things to say about perspective, especially over the past 10-20 years as compared to when he actually carried out the mission.  A few times during our discussion, questions came up about the so called “mutiny” with the crew & NASA ground control so listen to how Walt described what was mostly a non-event despite media & blog reports to the contrary.  He did talk about Wally Schirra, his head cold & the Actifed commercials, but there was far more to the mission & to the significance of Apollo 7.  Dr. Jurist asked about the ride on a Saturn 1B, professors & experiences while both were at UCLA.  We discussed risk regarding his ride on the Saturn 1B. Walt had much to say about risk during the Apollo era as compared to now.  We extrapolated from this discussion to Columbia’s foam issues. We talked about commercial space.  Walt suggested that today’s commercial space efforts were not purely commercial given government funding & missions. He also said that retiring the shuttle when we did was a big mistake.  He then took us through a cost analysis process to illustrate that space is & always will be costly.  At the end of the first segment, one way trips to Mars & reality TV show funding were mentioned.

In the second segment, Terry called with questions about Von Braun. Walt had high praise & much to say about Von Braun & his experiences with him.  Commercial space came up again & I asked him about asteroid mining.  He did not think it would be a good investment & talked about the need to pay attention to the laws of physics.  We talked about He3 on the Moon, fusion energy possibilities & more.  I read an email from a London listener asking about the Apollo rocket & mission sounds on Apollo 7.  We talked some more about the problems on board Apollo 7, this time regarding Wally & the TV broadcast delay & the wearing of the newly designed helmets during reentry.  Walt talked about climate change & global warming, urging people to do their own research & examine the data rather than believing what people had to say regardless of their position.  John in Atlanta called in about global warming & said that there was no practical mitigation strategy. Our guest shared what he perceived to be the true motivation of global warming extremists.  John also talked about having built a next gen space shuttle from the old space shuttle to avoid retiring it or having to build an entirely new & very costly program.  Walt supported that idea but history proved otherwise.  Toward the end we discussed the pros & cons of international cooperation & competition, Ares 1 as a safe rocket for HSF, & the cost of the ISS being more due to international cooperation.  Our final topic was risk versus reckless behavior & the difference between the two.

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Sara Howard, Friday, 12-30-11 December 30, 2011

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Sara Howard, Friday, 12-30-11

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1680-BWB-2011-12-30.mp3

Guest:  Sara Howard.  Topics: Sara’s experiences being one of two women who worked on the Saturn V rocket.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright.  The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising-campaign. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EACH AND EVERYONE ONE OF YOU!  We welcomed Sara Howard to the program, author of “Something Funny Happened on the Way to the Moon” which is her personal story about her experiences being one of only two women engineers who worked on the Saturn V rocket.  Later on Sara worked on the Trident submarine but most of our discussion today focused on her Saturn V experiences.  Sara was motivated by JFK’s Rice University speech, she was a math major at LSU, and got the chance to work at Michoud, Louisiana as a Boeing contractor on the team that worked on the Saturn 1-C.  Sara tells us about her team, the security for those working on the Saturn V and Apollo programs, and the need to get everything right and be 100% safe.  She talked about her team completing the first stage of the Saturn and the static firing tests of the 1-C in Mississippi.  Her stories about the security the workers went through to enter the workplace did not seem that unusual given we were in the midst of the Cold War and our experiences with air travel today.  But back then, as you will hear, this was all new to those working on the rocket.  She also told us some interesting stories about what the workers did when the program was cancelled.  Static tests, the love of their work, and their mission clearly drove these teams.  When we started the second segment of our program, Sara responded to questions about the F1 engine tests and she relayed to us what it was like firing all five of the engines for the static test at the same time.  We talked about not going beyond LEO and our guest questioned the purpose of the ISS several times during our discussion.  A caller wanted to know if she ever met Von Braun and the answer was yes.  Sara then told us some personal Von Braun stories.  She also told us about taking a family trip as a youngster to New Mexico and seeing a rocket launch from White Sands but not knowing what it was.  During our discussion she talked with us about the importance of studying math and physics and she repeated this several times over during our interview.  Later in the second segment, Sara was asked for her thoughts on the private sector taking over the building of the human spaceflight spaceships and she was very supportive of it, saying government was just messing things up.  I questioned her on safety issues with the private companies since she made strong comments about safety during the first segment.  As you will hear, she supports the move to privatization.  Toward the end, we talked about some of the chapters in her book and learned that she was never able to see a live Saturn V launch.  Near the end, John called in from Atlanta about the 2.5 minute engine test firing with several questions about the burn and the engine readiness.  At the end, Sara returned to questioning the purpose of the ISS & John and I attempted an answer. Please post your questions and comments on the blog URL above. You can contact Sara Howard at sara1861@gmail.com.