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Jay Wittner, Ron Jones, Sunday, 10-18-15 October 19, 2015

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Jay Wittner, Ron Jones, Sunday, 10-18-15

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Guests: Jay Wittner, Ron Jones. Topics: The Integrated Space Plan which is a real and detailed timeline of our future in space for the next 100 years. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed both Jay Wittner and Ron Jones to the program to discuss the Integrated Space Plan (ISP), “a real and detailed timeline of our future in space for the next 100 years. Vehicles, Stations, Settlements, Moon, Mars, Asteroids.” You can see the ISP at https://integratedspaceanalytics.com/cms/plan and also their previously successful Kickstarter site, www.kickstarter.com/projects/486671231/integrated-space-plan-envisioning-humanitys-future. Wired Magazine did an excellent article on the plan which you can download and read at www.wired.com/2015/08/wildly-detailed-100-year-plan-getting-humans-mars.. Discovery also did a nice article on the ISP dated Oct. 16, 2015 which you can read and download @ http://news.discovery.com/space/private-spaceflight/isp-the-ultimate-plan-to-launch-humanity-to-the-stars-151016.htm. During the first segment, Ron provided us with the history of the ISP which goes back several decades. He explained its purpose and how it has changed and evolved over time. In fact, later in the show I asked our guests if the time had finally come for the ISP to come into its own given the developments and progress in space development. You will certainly want to hear this discussion which comes much later in the show. The first segment is mostly devoted to describing the ISP and responding to basic listener questions about it as it was new to most listeners. I also urge you to look at it on the web using the above links so you can be come familiar with the plan and its blocks. Remember, it is a broad enabling approach that includes many different paths to accomplish space development, exploration and a spacefaring economy/society. It is not about a specific program or project as we are used to discussing on The Space Show. Specific plans and projects can nicely fit in the appropriate blocks on the ISP as the ISP is a collection of logical and plausible multiple paths to space development without saying this or that specific plan is THE plan we must follow. Toward the end of the first segment, John in Freemont, CA asked about the Shackleton Energy plan as was recently discussed on The Space Show. This was a good example for our guests to show how the ISP could nicely accommodate the Shackleton plan but that the ISP was actually much broader and more inclusive than just the three part Shackleton plan discussed on The Space Show. As you will hear, there is no conflict between the two.

In the second segment, Jay was asked how people could get a poster copy of the ISP. Jay and Ron told listeners how to order a poster copy (the rolled version in a tube is the best way to get it). We also talked about support for the ISP by many from within all segments of the space industry. Later, much was said about outreach for the private sector and also the student population, especially through SEDS. Jay and Ron invited listener participation and feedback and they gave out their respective email addresses or told listeners how to find their addresses on their website, www.thespaceplan.com.   We talked about disruptive technologies and how they were represented on the ISP. GPS was used as an example since I referenced Uber from our Friday Space Show program. As part of our disruptive discussion, our guests talked about SpaceX, the Falcon Heavy, reusability, and more. A listener asked about cislunar development and how that was represented on the ISP. Frequent Space Show guest Gerald Driggers called in with many interesting comments so make sure you listen to his discussion. His call was followed by John from Ft. Worth asking about actual markets & customers for the businesses.  Our guests talked about the key to customers would be lowering the cost to orbit, then they mentioned space tourism and specific payloads. As our program was ending, both guests offered closing comments and take away statements.   Both made a final appeal for listener participation and feedback as the ISP is a continuingly evolving plan.

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Russell Cox, Tuesday 8-11-15 August 12, 2015

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Russell Cox, Tuesday 8-11-15

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Guest: Russell Cox. Topics: The Lunar Initiatives Workshops. See www.lunarinitiatives.com. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

 

We welcomed Russell Cox to the program for our 92 minute discussion of the Lunar Initiatives workshops. Follow us at www.lunarinitiatives.com. Russell began the discussion by providing us with the background that led him to create the Lunar Initiatives workshop series. The start goes back to 2009 with the lunar missions that showed there was water ice at the poles. He said this changed the Moon and science for all time and opened up an entirely new realm of lunar possibilities and opportunities. He spent some time discussing the key lunar missions & their significance. Next, we turned our attention to the Lunar Workshops, Lunar Art, and the Lunar Challenges. All are described on his website so check them out. Regarding the workshops, he has a LunarCubes workshop, the Lunar Surface Applications workshop, the Lunar Scientific Opportunities in Cislunar Space (SOCS) workshop, and the Lunar Conference. Read about all of these events on his website but for our discussion, we mostly talked about LunarCubes and cubesats, Cislunar space, and near the end of the show, LunarArt. In addition to discussing The Lunar Initiatives events, Russell talked about returning to the Moon, lunar hackathons, prizes and contests, entrepreneurial efforts to go to the Moon, the Google Lunar XPRIZE, cubesats, the Do It Yourself (DIY) emerging markets, and more. Listeners asked him questions about lunar exploration, the technology readiness level of the entrepreneurs wanting to develop a business for going to the Moon, lunar settlement, lunar habitats, and using the Moon as a stepping stone for other solar system destinations. Don’t miss his response to these questions.

 

In the second segment, Russell spent more time on human lunar exploration and settlement and the need to push the technology today to do what we can today rather than waiting to be able to do more in future years. He said the road to the Moon is open! Russell described several existing opportunities including one by Space Systems Loral that you will find interesting. A listener asked him if we needed to focus on developing cislunar transportation, then our conversation switched to Lunar Art and their programs and contests in this area. He said poetry and short stories were included in this category and the contest. Late in the segment, Tim called in to raise questions about settlement given the possibility of gamma ray bursts plus comments from Dr. John Lewis regarding the Moon. Before the show ended, our guest addressed a few more listener emails, then spoke more about the LunarCubes program and website, www.lunarcubes.com.

 

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Mark Bray, Monday, 10-27-14 October 28, 2014

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Mark Bray, Monday, 10-27-14

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Guest:  Mark Bray.  Topics:  Mark talked about NASA and related issues, his run for Congress, congressional issues, space in the campaign & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back Mark Bray to the program to discuss the role of space policy in his congressional campaign.  During the first segment of our 91 minute program, Mark explained why he was running for congress as an Independent candidate for the 5th District in Alabama.  We quickly focused in on the role of space in his congressional race.  In addition, is space a priority issue, how much of one, and in his district, how space aware are the voters.  I asked Mark about aerospace engineers and other engineers in the U.S. Congress.  I doubt you will be surprised the demographics Mark shared with us.  I also asked Mark for his committee choices should he win and how easy it might be for him to get a seat on one of the science, technology & space committees.  Mark talked about commercial space, the support for it in the Huntsville area, and public/private partnerships.  The art of compromise was discussed & our guest noted the absence of it in congress.  Mark explained the assets a engineer brings to the table in complex decision making and why that background is well suited for being in congress.  Since Mark works on SLS in his engineering job, of course he got a few questions about it.  I wanted to know if members of the public asked or commented to him one way or the other on SLS & its future.  He said SLS comments, when he got them, were more general.  Judy sent in a note about a video on his website, http://www.brayforcongress.com, which focused on the NASA culture of the 60s.  Mark said he was focusing on the new, young NASA that could take on the near impossible and do things because it was not yet a tried and proven member of the government bureaucracy. Today, NASA is the bureaucracy and because of that, it operates differently.  His comments were interesting, don’t miss them.  Bob asked Mark about the private sector creating jobs as opposed to the claims that the public sector creates the job.  Again, don’t miss his reply.  Dr. Rowe asked a question about making astronaut medical data more freely available to researchers, wanting to know if Congress could make such data more readily available.

In the second segment, Mark said he wanted to establish himself as the go to guy on space issues for congress.  Greg called in to talk about why space matters as a national issue.  Tim from Huntsville was the last caller on the program.  He brought up needed ITAR reform to which Mark said there were meaningful reforms on the table that he supports.  He then brought up spaceports and launch restrictions, then I asked our guest to rank campaign priorities including the economy, healthcare, foreign policy, Ebola, ISIS, Russia, and space.  Mark said the economy trumped all issues but listen to see where space is on this list.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog.  You can reach Mark Bray through me.

 

The NRC Pathways HSF Study Panel Discussion, Sunday, 10-12-14 October 13, 2014

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The NRC Pathways HSF Study Panel Discussion, Sunday, 10-12-14

Featuring Dr. Jim Logan, Dan Adamo, Dr. John Jurist

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2334-BWB-2014-10-12.mp3

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Guests:  Dan Adamo, Dr. Jim Logan, Dr. John Jurist.  Topics:  Our three guests reviewed the NRC “Pathways To Exploration HSF study.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

Welcome to this 2.5 hour Space Show Classroom discussion with Dan Adamo, Dr. John Jurist, & Dr. Jim Logan regarding the recently released NRC “Pathways To Exploration: Rationales And Approaches For A U.S. Program Of Human Space Exploration.”  You can download the report for free at  http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=18801.  In addition, the project referred to in the last part of this discussion by Dan and Jim, the “Aquarius interplanetary HSF transport” paper can be freely downloaded at  http://www.spaceenterpriseinstitute.org/2014/07/aquarius-a-reusable-water-based-interplanetary-human-spaceflight-transport.  Please note that our panel members used cell phones which caused audio issues which you may hear during the discussion.  Finally, as this program will also be archived on both The Space Show and The Space Show Classroom blogs, there will be two papers uploaded to each blog, one by Dan Adamo & the other by caller Dr. James Dewar. I will mention both in the summary below.  In the first segment, our panel members opened with their perspective on the NRC Pathways HSF study.  While there were similarities in their perspectives, there were also noteworthy differences.  After this comprehensive introduction, I asked our panel members about the study and space settlement or pioneering.  Each panel member had much to say on the settlement issue, including the need to solve the gravity prescription for long duration HSF or settlement.  Our panel members  said that for the most part, space settlement was out of scope for this report.  In this part of the discussion much was said about microgravity issues & the need to do on orbit experiments to determine the HSF gravity prescription.  Deimos was discussed as an initial better choice that the surface of Mars re microgravity issues.  Our guests spoke to the need of a short arm centrifuge on the ISS.  Jim spoke to the specifics of such an experiment such as 1 G at the head., 2.5 g’s at the feet for two hours a day to see how it serves as a microgravity countermeasure.  Our panel members mentioned that there already was such a short arm centrifuge built years ago by NASA and Wiley, http://www.nasa.gov/centers/johnson/slsd/about/divisions/hacd/laboratories/short-arm_centrifuge_laboratory.html.  The guests talked about unknown human factor challenges for going to Mars and long duration spaceflight.  Jim provided us with interesting statistics on human spaceflight totals since the beginning in 1961.  The panel members had much to say about the budget issues discussed in the NRC study.  Another point brought up was the study’s assumption that if we are not going to the surface of Mars, why even do HSF?  Near the end of the first segment, listener Carl brought up the well known plans for Mars settlement with Elon Musk & SpaceX.  This sparked quite the discussion so don’t miss it.

In the second segment, our panel talked about the value of the Pathways study, international partnerships and what they saw as contradictory statements, especially regarding the mission cost impact of such partnerships.  John mentioned the study’s reference to NASA education & public outreach which he thought was more focused on STEM & the development of more engineers rather than on educating the general public to be more knowledgeable about science.  The panel members  noted that there was little attention paid to the societal impact of not even having a human spaceflight program.  Dan & Jim agreed on the importance of educational outreach and shared their experiences with us from the employment with NASA.  Adrian in San Diego sent in an email suggesting the panel was being pessimistic and that China would not overthink issues and just do missions without full disclosure.  All three panel members had much to say in response to Adrian’s charge of being pessimistic.  They talked about being reality based, not pessimistic & why it was so important to be reality based.  The panel hit back hard on the charge of being pessimistic.  Dan & Jim said to be other than realistic was reckless and irresponsible.  Jim also said that being called pessimistic suggested to him that reality had violated the person’s ideology.  Jim would be happy to debate the issues with anyone in open forum.  This discussion brought Jim and Dan to talking about their Aquarius project which you can download at the above URL.  They spent some time discussing the benefits of their approach, noting how it addresses & mitigates many of the problems associated with a HSF mission to Mars.  They also spoke to the need for nuclear propulsion and talked about using water as fuel and very high ISP ratings with high temperatures.  During this discussion, Dr. Jim Dewar called in to suggest their ISP ratings were low, he explained why, and he talked about starting small to start flying and then improving as you go.  We did not know it but we lost John from the connection but Jim, Dan, and Dr. Dewar spoke to the NERVA project, and specifics about nuclear propulsion.  This advanced nuclear propulsion discussion was close to a half an hour near the end of the program.  Dr. Dewar was a guest on the program in 2008 & 2009 regarding nuclear propulsion & its history. He also authored two books on the subject.  Use the GuestSearch tool on our website to find his interviews which I suggest you listen to if you have not already done so.  I will also upload to both blogs the paper Dr. Dewar referenced in his discussion.  After the nuclear discussion, Adrian sent in another email titled “rebuttal.”  He challenged the panel members to do the experiments, not just to talk about them.  Jim, Dan & I challenged Adrian for his solutions to doing many of the needed & essential experiments. All of the panel members supported doing the needed experiments & have said so for decades.  Getting funding for the experiments, NASA approval, etc. is a challenge.  I then challenged Adrian to come to The Space Show as a guest with his solutions for doing the essential work & experiments rather than his just talking about how badly they are needed per his second email.  I hope Adrian does have answers and will contact me about coming on the show to discuss them with us.  Jim & Dan each provided closing comments focusing back on the study report.  They thought the report was worth it from the taxpayer perspective and that it would be used for references.  Jim did think the report was not as good as other government studies he had seen because it was so speculative, something all three guests addressed in their opening remarks.  An 11th hour call came from SLS John to talk about the ISP formula & temperatures Dan and Jim used in their paper Aquarius paper.  Dan authorized me to upload to the blog his written comments on the NRC Pathways study so you will find that document on both blogs as well.

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Michael Annis, Friday, 10-10-14 October 11, 2014

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Michael Annis, Friday, 10-10-14

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Guest:  Michael Annis.  Topics:  We discussed is podcasts re http://spacerockethistory.com on the history of space & rocketry.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.   For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Michael Annis to the program to discuss his series of space & rocket history podcasts at http://spacerockethistory.com.  During the first segment, Mike told us about his background, being inspired by Apollo, and being a strong space enthusiasts going forward.  He strives for one podcast weekly.  Visit http://spacerockethistory.com/?page_id=344 for his timeline for existing podcasts with the newest on top.  Note that he started his series with his first podcast covering “Ancient Rocketry:  Standing on the Shoulders of Giants.”  As you will hear, he is still covering the Gemini program as his podcasts represent a detailed oral history in chronological order of events & missions that happened.  He does cover Soviet events plus events & rockets from other nations as applicable.  His sources are referenced in the podcasts but he does have a Source page, http://spacerockethistory.com/?page_id=27.  For this segment, we started at the beginning, talked about the history of rocketry and our space program.  One thing that I liked was his mention of the Flying Steam Powered Pigeon by Archtytas about 428 BC (see http://kotsanas.com/gb/exh.php?exhibit=2001001).  Listeners asked Mike questions about NewSpace, the Saturn V rocket, and for his favorite missions.  In this segment, Mike talked about the space interest of his students & their knowledge level of space history which was not good.

In the second segment, Mike mentioned Newton’s laws, especially his Third Law of Motion, especially action-reaction as he said rockets were based on this.  Our guest was asked about Mars as the focus and goal of human spaceflight and if he thought the US would likely lead a humans to Mars mission.  Another listener asked him about failures and he mentioned what he called a Flopnic, the Vanguard TV3 launch and the Soviet R7 rocket.  When asked about challenges to our space program, he cited budget problems.  We talked about the U.S. private sector which he supports.  Mike told us how to get his podcasts as they are available on iTunes and Stitcher.  Near the end of our program, Mike was asked about the Moon-Mars debate and his thoughts on the overall condition of our human spaceflight program.

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Dr. Frank Martin, Tuesday, 9-23-14 September 24, 2014

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Dr. Frank Martin, Tuesday, 9-23-14

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Guest:  Dr. Frank Martin.  Topic:  The NRC “Pathways to Exploration: Rationales and Approaches for a U.S. Program of Human Space Exploration” report.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Dr. Frank Martin to the program to discus the NRC human spaceflight study along with all aspects of human spaceflight including various destinations and missions.  During the first segment of our 1 hour 39 minute show, Dr. Martin introduced us to the NRC Pathways study which you can download for free by using Google.  He suggested it was a dose of reality as well as optimism.  He said the study was very clear in saying “show me the money” for those wanting to do humans to Mars missions now or fairly soon and then explained some of the high costs and trades involved in these missions.  One of his overriding themes throughout our discussion was the need to manage a very large mass in LEO in order to accomplish the goals of long duration human space mission.  During our segment, we kept coming back to the need to manage a large mass in LEO and how this translated to costs as well as the need for technology advancement.  Both myself and listeners asked our guest about doing human missions cheaper by using the private sector.  This subject kept coming up during both segments of the program.  We also addressed the rational for human spaceflight.  In addition, the issue of walking away from HSF was looked at for the US as a nation as that is an option. The report attempted to address this and related issues.   Joe sent in an email about the mice on the ISS and using them to determine the gravity RX for HSF.  He sent us several additional emails on this subject as well.  This prompted comments about the need to use the ISS for research in support of long duration HSF missions.  Dr. Martin said Mars was an horizon goal.  In this context, he talked about only a few other possible destinations near us, either the Moon or an asteroid.  He then proceeded to address the issue of managing the risk for a Mars mission.  Beverly asked a budget question and taking the lead from the most recent Mike Griffin interview, she asked Frank if it really was just a choice to be constrained by budget issues.  While Frank agreed it was a choice, he said there were very good ways and choices to spend taxpayer money so he did not see significantly more money for space in the future.  Another listener talked about nuclear propulsion which also crossed into the second segment.  Near the end of the first segment, we got a call from a New Zealand listener.  During his call, the idea of the Buzz Aldrin Mars cycler came up and there was a question or two about fuel depots.

In the second segment, I asked Dr. Martin why the study took 18 months, then SLS John called the program.  John wanted to talk nuclear propulsion thinking it would be a cost saver but what was not known was the accurate cost of the R&D program or the cost for jumping through political hurdles.  John suggested a new administration would make a difference and I challenged that.  I asked Frank given all his years of space industry experience if it was reasonable to expect big changes in space policy due to a change in administrations.  Don’t miss Frank’s reply.  Dwayne called back to question the HSF rational. One of the points made by Dwayne was that cooperation with the Russians on the ISS does not modify Russia’s behavior other than for space.

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Dr. Henry Lambright, Monday, 7-7-14 July 8, 2014

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Dr. Henry Lambright, Monday, 7-7-14

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Guest:  Dr. Henry Lambright.   Topics: Dr. Lambright’s book “Why Mars” & the politics, policy, history, & methodology of our Mars program.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Professor Henry Lambright of Syracuse University to the show to discuss his excellent book “Why Mars: NASA and the Politics of Space Exploration.”  During the first segment of this 1 hour 33 minute program, Dr. Lambright introduced us to his book and what prompted him to write it.  Dr. Lambright then described three main motivating factors for having our Mars program starting with before NASA with the belief and cultural components suggesting some sort of life on Mars.  Next as a motivating factor dating back from the Von Braun time frame of humans going to Mars.  His third motivating factor had to do with political issues and competition.  Since we were talking about the possibilities of life on Mars, I asked our guest about Viking and the more recent pronouncements by Dr. Gil Levin who has been on TSS several times over the past few years.  Later, Dr. Lambright had many good things to say about our science and robotic program but said our human spaceflight program was in disarray.  Dr. Lambright got several listener emails & phone calls.  He was asked for the WHY behind human spaceflight and that led to a discussion about Big Science. I asked him to define Big Science which he did.  We talked about the NRC Pathways HSF study, then our guest talked about triggers leading to big events and progress, plus the more typical method of moving forward which he called slow evolution.

Jumping forward to our second segment, we talked about the Clinton years in the 90s for policy, Mars Observer & how that loss was turned into a plus for our Mars policy.  Other topics included astronaut risk taking, the void in leadership for space, Mars, and things in general.  Doug called to consolidate all the motivating factors and issues to just one, the need for more money.  He made a good case for this consolidation.  We also talked about the challenges for getting alternative theories seriously considered by NASA, Congress, and policy makers.  The NASA to NACA suggestion came up, we talked about the privates taking over LEO with NASA focusing on BLEO & advanced technologies.  As the program was ending, I asked our guest about the Syracuse student interest in space and Mars, plus our guest left us with an important closing comment.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog. If you want to reach Dr. Lambright, you can do so through me.  Finally, if you buy his book from Amazon, do so through the OGLF Amazon portal so that Amazon will contribute to The Space Show.  Instructions are in each archive write up and on the blog, plus both The Space Show and OGLF websites.

Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Tuesday, 5-6-14 May 7, 2014

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Robert (Bob) Zimmerman, Tuesday, 5-6-14

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Guest:  Robert (Bob) Zimmerman.  Topics:  Russia-NASA space relationship with sanctions, ISS, SpaceX, Air Force & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed Bob Zimmerman back to the program to discuss the issues facing the U.S. and Russia as a result of the Russian aggression in the Crimea & the Ukraine and in light of U.S. sanctions against Russia for this aggression.  We discussed possible interruptions regarding the ISS, ongoing Soyuz flights for American astronauts, continued purchases of the RD-180 engine for the Atlas rocket and the N-33 for the Orbital Antares rocket.  We discussed side issues relative to these big picture issues as well.  In the first segment of this 2 hour 5 minute show, Bob explained the Russia-NASA space relationship from his perspective. We talked about there being a probable low risk that the parties we would quit cooperating with one another on the ISS but more of our attention in this segment was focused on the Atlas rocket and the use of the RD-180 engine which is a Russian engine.  This focus was largely the result of our first phone call from Kelly and as you will hear, Bob and Kelly did not always see eye to eye on the issue and they both seemed to enjoy talking at the same time.  For the record, when that happens, as the show host, its nearly impossible to get words or comments to stop them until at least one person stops talking. This is an artifact of the use of a cell phone and the loss of full duplex voice exchange.  The issues discussed in this segment regarding the Ukraine and the RD-180 were also carried forward to the second segment as well.  Bob thought there might be a silver lining in all this in that it might be waking up important segments here in America and forcing the space industry to stop being so dependent on Russia and building up our commercial space industry.  Also discussed in this segment was the Orbital Antares which uses the Russian N-33 engine.  The upcoming Orbital and ATK merger was part of our discussion and the possible replacement of the N-33 with an ATK solid rocket motor for the first stage.

In the second segment, John from Ft. Worth called in regarding the Ukrainian issue .  He also talked about possible U.S. government waivers for the engines.  Fast tracking the Dragon came up and then email listeners started asking Bob if Orion could be fast tracked.  Bob made his usual comments on SLS and Orion, Lockheed.  His favorite word for the night was PORK.  Had it been the secret word where you win a hundred dollars every time you mention PORK, Bob would have cleaned up.  Kelly emailed us to remind everyone that Putin considers the RD-180 a national treasure and may stop the sales of it anyway.  Doug sent in emails asking about Falcon Heavy missions as compared to SLS missions. Bob said Falcon Heavy could do everything SLS could do and cheaper, even if it required multiple launches as he does not think SLS will fly and the flight profile for SLS at 1 launch every 3-4 years is not sustainable.  Doug also inquired about reusability, ULA, Boeing, & Lockheed because using it might drop their overall price since the government would likely not pay substantially more than a commercial company for the same launch.  I think I will honor Bob the next time he comes on the show with new bumper music, this time from Annie Get Your Gun with the song “Anything You Can Do I Can Do Better sung by Bette Hutton and Howard Keel.  All we need is a Space Show listener with talent to substitute a few key words in the song to be relevant to Bob, Doug and others re Falcon Heavy, SpaceX, SLS, Orion, the private sector, government space, etc.  For those of you too young to remember Annie Get Your Gun and this famous song, check it out at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO23WBji_Z0.  Tony called about Russian cultural issues and SpaceX, then we got the call of the night in my opinion from Ben in New Jersey. Ben pointed out that “the basic strategic driver for Russia in Crimea is that well over 90% of the fresh water and electricity needed in Crimea comes from the Kherson region of Ukraine. Fresh water supply from Ukraine to Crimea has already been shut down. Crimea has only 30 days of fresh water left. There are rolling blackouts, as the electrical supply is also low. Russia cannot allow this to continue.”  Ben continued to offer his analysis which you will find most interesting. By the way, if you are not familiar with the geography of the Ukraine and Crimea, here is a good reference map of the region:  http://www.businessinsider.com/map-ukraine-threats-from-russia-2014-5#!J0srL.  Ben continued with his analysis and Bob and I picked his brain for his idea of the outcome of the disputes.  Both Bob & Ben thought Russia has some natural constraints so they are likely only to take the easier “low hanging fruits” as they will avoid an all out and bloody conflict.  At other times during the segment, other listeners suggested that the situation will ease over time and that the space issues will also be eased.  Bob said over and over again that he did not believe Russia wanted to lose its commercial space revenue and this would probably be a constraint on his behavior.  At different times during both segments, the SpaceX lawsuit was discussed but mostly in the context of the national security issues pertaining to Russia, NASA and our space policy and relationship.

Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog. Bob can be reached through his website, http://www.Behindtheblack.com.

Dragos Bratasanu, Friday, 3-7-14 March 8, 2014

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Dragos Bratasanu, Friday, 3-7-14

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Guest:  Dragos Bratasanu.  Topics:  Failures in aerospace and aviation & how to avoid them.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.

We welcomed back to the show Dragos Bratasanu to discuss his new ebook, “Engineering Success.”  Note that for a limited time, you can download this book for free from his website, www.successengineer.org.  In addition, he has given listeners Chapter One of his book which has been uploaded to The Space Show blog for this program.  During the first segment of this 94 minute discussion, Dragos started out by telling us why he wrote the book, what he wanted to accomplish with the book and the methodology he used in writing it.  He worked with several consultants and as you will hear, he cited numerous examples both in the space industry and outside the space industry to make his points about what he kept referring to as the social context of decision making, accountability, etc.  After providing us with the background to aviation and aerospace failures, he talked about remedies and modifications per the social context which I took to refer to the organizational culture though Dragos has a much broader definition which you will get during this interview.

In our second segment, he talked with us about scheduling and budget pressures that lead to failures and some of the recognizable danger signals.  He also provided us with some useful stats for speaking up from the employee ranks about problems and issues and why they often go unreported.  We talked about some additional specific corporate examples he used to make his point, plus we talked about the entrepreneurial space company culture.  Later, he went through the important four human needs followed by the four behaviors.  Our guest provided us with a good summary of his book and the subject.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog.  You can sign up for his free newsletter on his website and also for a limited time, download the ebook for free.  You can contact Dragos through his website or me.

 

Dr. Alice Gorman, Tuesday, 1-7-14 January 8, 2014

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Dr. Alice Gorman, Tuesday, 1-7-14

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Guest:  Dr. Alice Gorman.  Topics:  Space archaeology.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.

We welcomed Dr. Alice Gorman to the show for this 1 hour 38 minute fascinating space archaeology discussion.  During our first segment, Dr. Gorman explained space archaeology, talked about space debris, cultural preservation, and much more.  We talked about archaeological techniques used here on Earth and how they can be applied to space archaeology.  We also talked about the fact that most space artifacts are in space so what we often find in museums are replicas or simulated items which are not the same and have a different meaning for the archaeologist.  Dr. Gorman then talked about the possibility of artifacts from other cultures or even extraterrestrial life and questioned if we could even recognize what we were looking at or working with since it might be radically different from what we know and work with on Earth.  Listener Jonny emailed in to ask what would happen if China went to an lunar Apollo landing site and took some of the items left on the Moon back to be displayed in a Chinese museum.  Dr. Gorman did not think that likely, spoke about the Outer Space Treaty and that items are always owned by the launching company, and the NASA heritage sites guidelines they have proposed. Several questions came in regarding growth in the private, commercial, & entrepreneurial segments of the space community and how cultural and heritage protection might work with these nongovernment entities.  This led to an interesting discussion about company behavior, culture, early planning, awareness, and even benefit sharing.  We had a fun discussion about advertising in space for the ad to be seen back on Earth and we talked about how many of us hold the night sky sacred and do not want it spoiled.

In the second segment, Angela asked Alice when space archaeology would come into its own.  Alice replied that it already had “arrived” and cited many examples proving this.  Kimberly emailed in about the usefulness for archaeological purposes of space settlement garbage. Mars One was the model for this.  As we learned, archaeologists learn much from garbage so don’t miss what Alice said might result from a Mars One garbage dump analysis.  Todd emailed in about pets going to space settlements and if archaeologists would look for pet remains or traces of human pet relationships to learn about a space settlement.  We talked about Dark Skies and raising our awareness for specific issues, plus the need for early planning by businesses.  As the show was about to end, I asked our guest for the hottest topics in space archaeology. Alice named three topics.  The final question asked Alice to look forward five years and describe the field of space archaeology in 2019.

Post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog above.  Check our Dr. Gorman’s blog, Space Age Archaeology, at http://zoharesque.blogspot.com.  Her university website is www.flinders.edu.au/people/alice.gorman.  Her email address is listed on the page.