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Dennis Wingo, Monday, 12-1-14 December 2, 2014

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Dennis Wingo, Monday, 12-1-14

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2366-BWB-2014-12-01.mp3

Guest:  Dennis Wingo.  Topics:  NASA ARM Mission, RTM, HSF to Mars, solar system economic development & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com . Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See http://www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm.  For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience.  We did have a few audio problems as Dennis used a cell phone and we lost the connection a few times due to storms across N. California.

We welcomed back Dennis Wingo for this 93 minute discussion. PLEASE NOTE THAT WE ARE NOW CONDUCTING OUR ANNUAL FUND RAISING DRIVE.  WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE SPACE SHOW AND ITS PROGRAMMING EFFORT.  During our first segment, Dennis talked about his recent blog article at http://denniswingo.wordpress.com, To ARM or Not To ARM: Is That Really Our Question.  I urge you to download and read this article as Dennis refers to it many times over during our discussion.  He started out with an analysis of what was thought to be the NASA ARM mission as compared to what it has become today.  As you will hear, he was supportive of the initial mission, not the current evolved mission.  He explained why the shift in his position which was based on making the ARM mission a minimalist type mission.  He explained the differences in detail.  Budget reasons were cited as a primary reason for the mission being downgraded.  Dennis offered us an historical analysis & perspective of the NASA budget.  SLS, Falcon Heavy, & lots of space policy made it to this segment.  Dennis talked about solar electric propulsion for ARM, then he was asked about the likelihood of the next president initiating an RTM program.  Doug emailed about a COTS like program with ULA & Masten for a lunar lander.  Dennis had much to say about a lunar lander dating back to the Gemini era up to new, lower cost ideas coming from the commercial space industry.

In the second segment, Dennis continued talking about the upcoming new Congress and what might emerge as a different type program with a different budget though he thought we were more likely to entertain the status quo.  Several listeners wanted to know if it would boil down to the Moon vs. ARM or the Moon vs. Mars.  Don’t miss his response to these questions.  Our guest suggested we all watch the “Wanderers” video which you can see at http://vimeo.com/108650530.  Dennis mentioned that we did not need a government program as such for space but he did speak in favor of public/private partnerships.  We spoke much about the need for space and lunar infrastructure.  Sally asked him to explain the difference with the economic development of the solar system and space settlement.  He said space settlement was very much a part of a space economic development effort.  In response to another set of listener questions, Dennis talked about the 90-10 rule when has about robots in space as compared to astronauts.  Doug called to talk about investment capital for commercial space plus other issues.  I then asked Dennis if Lunar Cots or industrialization was included in solar system economic development and if so, at what stage?  Kirk emailed in a question challenging the role played by offering prizes.  Don’t miss what Dennis had to say in response to Kirk’s email.  Before we ended the program, Dennis mentioned his latest blog article about Apollo betrayed by the very people who made the Apollo mission happen.  You can read this article at http://denniswingo.wordpress.com.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above.  You can reach Dennis through his blog and articles or through me.

Dr. Doug Plata, Sunday, 2-24-13 February 25, 2013

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Dr. Doug Plata, Sunday, 2-24-13

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1957-BWB-2013-02-24.mp3

Guest:  Dr. Doug Plata.  Topics:  Taking action on one’s space advocacy ideas.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information.

We welcomed Dr. Doug Plata to the program to discuss taking action on one’s space advocacy ideas and plans.  For examples of this, visit Dr. Plata’s  www.lunarcots.com for more information on his Lunar Cots idea and to sign his Lunar Cots petition which he talked about throughout our two hour program.  Dr. Plata said he was not around in the Apollo era plus he only started getting interested in space about 3 years ago.  I commented that he did not bring to the table disappointment and unrealized, perhaps even foolish expectations that many of us who were around during Apollo have experienced, including an expectation of lunar colonies and trips to Mars by now.  Doug had a clean slate to build upon, no legacy issues or unrealized expectations or anything like that.  Doug said his interests are to go BLEO but how?  Based on his analysis, he decided lunar development was first, researched Cislunar development, and developed his Lunar Cots idea based on successes for NASA public/private partnerships such as COTS.  From there, he developed the idea of the Lunar Cots Petition for people to sign and to eventually give NASA and other key policy makers.  He also mentioned that were he to advocate something, he felt it was his responsibility to technically know about the issues so he could accurately represent them to people.  He also said that one person, even with very small steps, could make a difference and he clearly walks that talk.  Part of his Lunar Cots idea addresses the need for a Cislunar Transportation System.  The first John called (from Atlanta) and raised the question about there being sufficient water ice on the Moon.  In his response, Doug referenced the LCROSS mission.

In our second segment, Doug took calls and listener emails.  The discussion about there being sufficient lunar water ice on the Moon continued.  He also talked about automatic equipment for lunar mining as compared to telerobotics.  Doug was asked who he talks with about Lunar Cots and the petition. We heard everyone, from the general public to space enthusiasts.  In talking about space advocacy in general, he said there were many paths and people had to find a path that made sense to them & then figure out a way to act upon their individual advocacy.  John called from Florida and asked about heavy lift and fuel depots.  Another Jon called from New Jersey to ask about doing something, anything, and the use of prizes. Even Charles Pooley got in on the discussion to talk about starting small and his Microlaunchers concept.  Toward the end, Doug was asked by a medical school student why he was not doing aerospace and human factors space medicine.  Also during this segment, both Doug and I talked extensively about finding something to do regarding one’s advocacy, even if it involved stepping out of one’s comfort zone and seemed to be too small an effort.  The reality is that to make a difference, even a small effort can be and is usually beneficial.

Please post your comments/questions on the Space Show blog.  You can email Doug through the address he provided on air or through me.

John Batchelor Show, “Hotel Mars,” Wednesday, 2-8-12 February 9, 2012

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John Batchelor Show, “Hotel Mars,” Wednesday, 2-8-12

John Batchelor, Dr. Rorbert Zubrin, Dr. David Livingston

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/1708-BWB-2012-02-08.mp3

Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. Robert (Bob) Zubrin, Dr. David Livingston. Topics: Manned Mars exploration, prizes, NASA, Private Sector.  You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com.  Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com.  The topics in this 11 minute plus segment focused on Dr. Zubrin’s recent article published in the National Review (www.nationalreview.com/blogs/print/289775) titled “The Mars Prize” and dated Feb. 1, 2012.  During our Hotel Mars segment, Dr. Zubrin explained the rational behind his Mars Prize idea, he discussed the economics of it and how it would drive the necessary technology advances needed for a human Mars mission.  When asked about fuel depots, he said they were a stupid idea and he explained why. He also said the prize was independent of what he thought or approved of as the winning approach may very well include the use of orbiting fuel depots were it the best of the competition.  He went on to say that prizes do not tell people how to do the project.  Dr. Zubrin talked about who most likely would compete and he named the current billionaire space entrepreneurs but said others would emerge.  There was a discussion about making the prize international and we discussed potential ITAR and U.S. taxpayer funding issues.  In response to another question from Mr. Batchelor, he said those competing could very well contract to use NASA talent and skills, but they were free to bring on board such expertise from other sources.  He also said NASA would likely be a customer for the proven technology from the winner and the company having successfully implement the human Mars mission. Please post your comments/questions about this segment to The Space Show blog.  If you want to contact either Dr. Zubrin or John Batchelor, send your note to me and I will forward it for you.